Rehn: Turning to Moscow dangerous game

Oh dear, does anyone really believe this rubbish?

Where did he get "nationalist authoritarianism"? The only authoritarianism we are getting is coming from the EU. We must do as they say otherwise they are talking about isolation and other threats. Russia is saying nothing of the sort. Russia is offering investment and energy security, it is protecting Kosovo for the Serbians while the EU attempts to grab it away.

I don't think this speech will go down well with Serbians who have traditional ties with Russia. However, what I can see is a pattern where they are appealing to the younger Serbian voters who are the easiest to manipulate.

This blatant interference into Serbian internal affairs is unbelievable. Olli, why don't you quit sticking your nose into Serbia's affairs, it doesn't concern you. The 'self-isolation' propoganda that you preach are pure lies, and you know it. Countries will trade with Serbia no matter what, they have no choice! Serbia is an integral part of Europe, and on the route from east to west, and west to east. If you were a true friend of Serbia, then why did you recognize the fake, illegal and immoral state which is run by terrorists and organ traffickers? Actions speak louder than words, and your actions are completely anti-Serbian.
Russia have shown by their actions how true Serbian friends behave. You, Solana, and the rest of your ilk, have shown you are enemies of Serbia.
Cheers!

"Kosovo is often cited in Serbia's internal discussions as a reason to turn toward Moscow, instead of toward Brussels. This is a dangerous game, because Serbia would be the first to suffer if authorities and fragile economy in Kosovo were to fail," Rehn said in a lecture in Oxford, reported by his cabinet."

This one takes the cake. If Serbia were to cozy up to Moscow, Pristina would fail? And if Pristina fails, Belgrade would be the first to suffer? Convoluted logic if you ask me.

Mr. Rehn, who is playing the dangerous game? Why do you worry so much about future of Serbia and at the same time cut her limb? Your claim about European democracy is pure lay. Pushing for signature of Tadic/Delic under SAA just before election is clear interfering to internal after of Serbia. Only blind person cannot see it.

"Serbia should not undermine influences, because it needs the guiding hand of the European Union in order for Kosovo to function,"

Serbia doesn't need a "guiding hand" of EU. Serbia would be more then happy to accept a "helping hand" of EU as a whole, with KiM. You know well that cut limb cannot live without rest of the body. Don't you?

For as long as you and EU support terrorist and organ traficking state,we all know who we rather trust Olli.

If the EU bureaucrats like Rehn were genuinely worried about Serbia turning to Moscow, they would:
1. Move against the illegally declared independent Kosovo and strictly adhere to Res 1244, the Helsinki Final Act etc.
2. Offer Serbia fast and unconditional full membership of the Union.
3. Declare no confidence in the Hague Tribunal and agitate to have it shut down.

They won't do any of these things and until they do Olli Rehn should shut his mouth.

Stupid comments from a man who has been ordered to put something out in the media that will attempt to influence elections.

Serbia has been turned towards Moscow for many decades and has had a great relationship with Russia.

Olli Rehn would have been a great agitator in the McCarthy-era...

this attempt to manipulate and to create fear amongst the serbian voters is so shameful, given that it´s coming from a "democrat european"...

and B92 is publishing it, what´s the best about it! :)

Nothing scares these EU bureaucrats more than the prospect of a successful Serbia outside the EU.

This would reveal to all Europeans that they are good for nothing.

Serbia, choose an easterly path. From an EU rep in Kosovo, all is not what it seems, and those two puppets who signed the SAA document are clueless.

They are just couriers delivering serbia to its final place at the bottom of a capitalistic pile, wrapped in red tape. EU WANTS TO DEVELOP SERBIA AFTER THEY HAVE CONTROL OF YOUR FUTURE, AND DOMESTIC AFFAIRS.

...or risk self-isolation if they choose nationalist authoritarianism that is offered by those who reject the European Union and the European way of living -

These people are real jokers...!
They are like frogs who probably don't know that there is a world outside of EU...

Why is it so important to them, what path Serbs choose, after all the path has been shown to then after the shameless recognition of an illegal state, carving up of Serbia, Bombing Serbs, killing/maiming/raping Serbs, destroying homes/factories etc.

If Serbs fall into this trap of 'snakes', not only Kosovo but Serbia itself is under threat under this 'REAL AUTHORITARIAN TRAP'...

Amen to the real Serb party - the SRS/DSS Combine...

What a bunch of characters these guys are. Pretending to lead the blind as to not let them fall in a ditch, while speaking in tones which suggest they are more than willing to push them off a cliff if they don't get their way. So a compassionate lot they are.

Serbia is and has always been located in the heart of Europe.It is a silly concept to say that Serbs should choose between Europe and the moon and this Rehn guy is ridiculous to say the least.18 countries in Europe have recognized the illegal UDI but are there not 40+countries in Europe?As far as economics Serbia should do business with ALL countries but should show no preference for those that do not respect its territorial integrity.Even in the EU itself there are many countries who believe that Serbia is more important to Europe than Albania and will never recognize Kosovo as an independent country.For the next 50 years let the EU fund this economic black hole while Serbia retains the legal deed to all the land.People come and go but the land is forever.Shalom

Mr Ren You have some great ideas, and you're great man.
Dont be discouraged by those whose hobby is saying no to other people's ingenuity.
Stick to your guns until you find someone who is secure enough in themselves to help rather than to hinder.
Hang on in there, things will seem better soon.Honest.

Long Live Kosova EU UK USA Albania Turkey Japan.
(ronaldo USA, 3 May 2008 13:27)

Firstly...Learn to spell. Secondly, the most insecure nation of people I have ever come across are Albanians. That is why so few of them ever stay in Albania, instead they gather in groups in other countries.

Why Serbia turns to Moscow is because Moscow supports Serbia in defending their right to sovereign territory.
They are among the hand-full of countries in Europe that support the Serbs in their struggle against almost entire Western world.
I don't see how not to be a friend with someone that fights by your side when all others just want to kick you while you are down.

Only a dog would keep going back to it's master for more beatings. I have nothing against dogs as they are loyal creatures but Serbs are people.

Why would any Serb behave like a dog? EU keeps beating them, thereatening them and feeding them rubbish, yet this same EU expects Serbs to keep coming back for more.

Serbian people are loyal, proud people and it is shameful how they have been treated by no less than their former allies and friends.
Now they have a chance to see who their REAL friends are and that is Russia.

Why would they not turn to Russia? A country which has shown them respect and has backed them all the way.

What is Europe offering Serbia? It won't matter if Serbs decide to become dogs and give in to EU every time. EU will treat them even worse, for if you don't respect yourself you cannot expect anyone else to.

Bottom line. Offer real friendship and respect and Serbia will be glad to join you. Offer them humiliation and they will join the people who will treat them as equals. So if Europe is sincere in wanting Seriba as an equal partner then they must reverse their anti Serb policies.

hey KS ( Kansas? )

let´s just start using our brains! not falling for the shameful attempt of bullying free voters with horror-scenario´s means to "turn towards Russia"? have I understood you right? excuse me, not you, of course...that article...

well then, WHO for heaven´s sake says that Serbia is not european??? who says that not accepting blackmail means not being outside of europe? that´s simply not the case!

you are completely right, Serbia is in Europe, and it will stay that way...whether Serbia enters the EU or not.
is Norway an isolated country because of not being a EU-member?

is Switzerland isolated, and non-european? remember, Switzerland is not a EU-member either!

what should we think about those ineffectual attempts to create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation?

by the way, don´t you wonder that it is only and always the same figures publishing their "opinion" here? I mean, Mr. William "unique case" Montgomery? hello? do you see the pattern here?

I ask myself why only an american politician and diplomat writes his "opinion" here...

isn´t that a little bit strange even for you?

why does nobody blame Germany for having good relations to Russia as "turning towards Russia"?

who says that Serbia is turning towards Russia??? Serbia has good relations to Brasil, Argentina, Chile, China, South Africa, Indonesia, Vietnam, India ...to name only a few...

who says that Serbia is limited to Russia?

do you see what I mean? it´s mere propaganda... and I am critisizing that. by only closing it I would let them create the impression as if everything´s okay, and their lies are right... but it isn´t.

if it let´s you sleep better: Serbia will rise economically, no matter whether entering the EU in 2012 or 2040...if the EU still exists then in the present shape...

Serbia doesn´t need the EU, but the EU needs Serbia ( remember Serbia´s the key-country in the western Balkans )

that´s something Olli Rehn won´t openly admit, I guess.

"Serbia is located in EUROPE, and it should direct itself towards EUROPE, not Russia."

(KS, 3 May 2008 21:49)"

KS,

So Serbia is located in Europe and Moscow is not???? You ought to sue your geography teacher big time!

a better standard of living ? what is this clown talking about ? i live between london and novi sad because of my serb wife .. the "standard" or lifestyle of living is far more enjoyable and healther in NS , maybe he means we should all become boring and dull like the scandinavians .

Mr Ren You have some great ideas, and you're great man.
Dont be discouraged by those whose hobby is saying no to other people's ingenuity.
Stick to your guns until you find someone who is secure enough in themselves to help rather than to hinder.
Hang on in there, things will seem better soon.Honest.

Long Live Kosova EU UK USA Albania Turkey Japan.

johny,

1. The wars of the 1990s were not "started" by Serbia. When the history of the wars are written in years to come, it will be seen as much more complex than that. Many parties contributed to these conflicts and narrow prejudice does not help understanding or resolution.
2. The direction the Serbian people want to take now will be determined on May 11.
3. My basic point is that the EU should either put up or shut up.
Regards.

Join EU, Pleese. It was not enough for the UN to whitewash NATO's illegal invasion and occupation of Kosovo, to sit idly by and even justify the ethnic cleansing and barbaric destruction of Serbs and their cultural treasures, or even to stage sham elections designed to give a veneer of legitimacy to the abomination they have created. Now they will allow the appointment of a gangster, murderer, and terrorist as "prime minister" of the occupied province.

It was not enough to launch an illegal war of aggression against Iraq, occupy, and devastate the country, based on specious and outright false "intelligence." Now the exact same accusations are leveled at Iran, and the dogs of war are baying for a sequel.

It was not enough to create and fund a sophisticated fifth column to overthrow Slobodan Milosevic in the fall of 2000. The same recipe was used again in Belarus (where it failed), Georgia (2003), and now Ukraine: propaganda, demonstrations, and threats seek to overturn electoral results. Sure, the ballot box is a false god, but the mob is the falsest.

Any sort of logic, principle, or coherent idea still in existence is under merciless assault of those whose only ambition is to conquer, and only pleasure to destroy. What we are seeing are not "double standards," as some complain, but no standards at all.

It's not that the UN and NATO and EU and the U.S. don't know who Ramush Haradinaj is. After all, they made him: sponsored his terrorist army, promoted him from a local thug into a politician, covered up his murderous activities, and even patched him up when his victims shot back. So, his appointment is deliberate, and the limp protestations of EU's foreign policy commissar are likely just a smokescreen.

Another factor in this travesty is that Kosovo's occupiers are confident the authorities in Belgrade – who had indicted Haradinaj for murder, ethnic cleansing, abduction, and terrorism, to name just a few – would swallow this insult just like every other that has come from the Empire in the past five years. When Serbian leaders get angry, they talk about "human rights" and "European integrations." When Albanian mobs get angry, people die.

Loosing control?? This is what we want several years,now! Desperate,bringed to the edge and open,finally..The Ultimatum is issued formally trough some..,Olli..

What's the strenght of an "army" able to send OLLI as a messenger?!

ALL PAPER TIGERS YOU ARE!!!

If it was Ultimatum EU/USA analysts would easy predict SERBIAN answer,it was always same..What if it's not?! (It's not!)

Europe,why can't you turn to your business??! You're "passing" USA but china is "passing" you!! Why you "waste" precious time with Serbia?? What's going wrong?? Why you are in panic?!

Do not blackmail Serbs Europe, we can bring you 1000 years back!! There's no isolation,at all!!

Paper tigers you are!!

I am glad to see that the responses have been overwhelmingly opposed to their article. The first paragraph reads like a Christiane Amanpour report - emotionally manipulative propaganda and lies. There's not much more that can be said here - except that the British,American and French governments are likely to continue their support of the destruction of Serbia, despite the fall of the Milosevic regime, despite the obvious facts that are arising from Kosovo (no genocide, number of people killed in Kosovo by all sides less than 5000, Serbs and all non-Albanians are at the receiving end of ethnic cleansing/cultural extermination since 1999), despite the fact that support of Balkan Muslims has not prevented Muslim terror in the West (London bombings, Madrid bombings, September 11). Serbia should ignore the EU carrot and turn away from Western Europe, which has for the last 15+ years pursued and still pursues a distinctly anti-Serbia/anti-Serb policy, from former allies France and Britain to old enemies Germany, Austria,

Only if someone has a real brain damage to don't understand which way Serbia has to choose.... and that it's all up to serbian VOTERS

Clearly, Moscow is the birthplace of the Antichrist who will subdue Serbia into darkness. Serbs should listen to people like Oli Rehn who know for sure: America's destiny is to fight Evil Antichrist worldwide and prepare the Earth to Jesus Second Coming. If, by accident, there is no Antichrist around, we will find one just to prove, the world needs us.

Let's hope, the Second Coming won't happen. Otherwise Jesus may ask us in person about the sin of devastating entire countries, killing millions of innocent with the goal of self-enrichment... and other minor issues like... like... that 9/11 which looks somewhat stinky, tsssk, tsssk.

i choose civilization, culture, economic future or short russia!

oli the farmer can choose pseudostates like bosnia, albania or kosovo (until liberated).

"If the EU bureaucrats like Rehn were genuinely worried about Serbia turning to Moscow, they would:
1. Move against the illegally declared independent Kosovo and strictly adhere to Res 1244, the Helsinki Final Act etc.
2. Offer Serbia fast and unconditional full membership of the Union.
3. Declare no confidence in the Hague Tribunal and agitate to have it shut down.

They won't do any of these things and until they do Olli Rehn should shut his mouth.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 3 May 2008 19:12) "

Tom I have a simple question for you. Why should EU do this for the Serbs? It's not doing it for the Croats. As a matter of fact it hasn't unconditionally accepted any of the members. Why should the Serbs be treated so specially? Is it because they started countless wars in the space of one decade?
If what you argue is to be implemented then the recipe of joining the EU would be simple. Every country would follow Serbia's step. Start wars, kill your neighbors, and orient yourself towards Russia. Then the EU would unconditionally reward you for all the wars and crimes you committed and you would be a full EU member.
Serbia wants to be a Russian puppet, well that's their choice. Outsiders can only tell them what comes with it. In the end the choice is theirs.

and B92 is publishing it, what´s the best about it! :)
(Jovan, 3 May 2008 17:07)

B92's job is to report the news, not to select what's best for you to read and what isn't...that's PRC government's job. If you don't agree with a certain article or find it insulting, biased, annoying, do as I do, close it. I'm not exactly sure why you disagree with Rehn. Serbia is located in EUROPE, and it should direct itself towards EUROPE, not Russia. Serbia can't play as the big bad guy when it's not that big. Don't repeat the same mistakes as others before you. You don't want all your neighbors and Brussel to turn against you.

U.S. allies weary of efforts to drag them into U.S. wars. U.S. imperialism confronts something of a crisis as its partners rethink where their real interests lie. The GDP of the EU now exceeds the U.S. figure. The euro is much stronger than the dollar. People everywhere hate the U.S. government, which they associate with war-promoting lies and general savagery. Bush is out of political capital, domestically and internationally, as Kosovo announces its independence, made possible by U.S. lies and bloody intervention, “threatening,” as the Russians put it, “the foundations of a world order.”

Everything dies eventually. Hitler’s “New Order in Europe,” Japan’s “New Order in East Asia,” George H. W. Bush’s “New World Order” proclaimed as he launched the first Gulf War in 1990. The present world order is profoundly unfair and deserves to be threatened, by the right people, with a better alternative. But the assault on Yugoslavia in 1999 brought nothing positive; rather, more intolerance and suffering, more ethnic cleansing. A new regime emerges, applauded by its American sponsors and most of the EU (but rejected by Greece, Cyprus, Romania, Slovakia, Spain and Bulgaria). It is wrapped in smoke, in a legacy of smoldering churches. Smells like the cremation of a world order.

Turning to russia.

recently i liked one of the posters sent by one Serbian who commented about Serbian Diaspora talking tough and suppotring the radicals,He was complaining that these people are making matters worse for Serbia with their Gung HO attitude, and that these people do not live In Serbia and do not know anything, how living in Serbia is at the moment
This Serbian fellow was trying to get the message across to people that the only way for Serbia is Europe.

As for Turning to Russia, as far as i know a lot of elderly people are dying in Russia as the care system is shambles there and the problem of the (Dodgy Vodka) that makes people go blind.
I realy would think twice if i wanted the support of that sort of country.

Maybe Serbia will be first country who will democratically refuse to join EU, and that will be beginning of something new. Maybe that is why these two social engineers sound so reconciliatory, because that would be something so unexpected: the people of one small impoverished country refusing to give up national identity and to become "European consumers". That could be contagious!
Only when Serbs are allowed to exercise the same right the West gave to others in former Yugoslavia, then the dust will settle. Freedom for Republic of Srpska, freedom for Serbs in northern part of Kosovo, no matter how long it takes! We won't give up, take close look at Serb history. Until then, it will be big NO to EU.



Serbia, its time to move forward. Embrace Europe and human rights, treat your neighbours, as you wish to be treated.
Serbia, you can build a great relationship with Kosovo, all you have to do is accept the Kosovars as equals.

Lucky Serbs getting this offer from one of the most respected statesmen today.
Is this the 'democratic' choice that many Serbs seem to be opting for.
I bet like most of the rest of Europe's people Tadic won't be showing you this.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=zSjt4JEOpPs&eurl=http://snoedel.punt.nl/?gr=476770
This is the EUSSR. This is the media censorship that goes with it. This is what happens when you join. You are trapped in a dictatorship of the elite and the NWO.
BE FREE. Be aligned with the future.

Mr Ren You have some great ideas, and you're great man.
Dont be discouraged by those whose hobby is saying no to other people's ingenuity.
Stick to your guns until you find someone who is secure enough in themselves to help rather than to hinder.
Hang on in there, things will seem better soon.Honest.

Long Live Kosova EU UK USA Albania Turkey Japan.

"If the EU bureaucrats like Rehn were genuinely worried about Serbia turning to Moscow, they would:
1. Move against the illegally declared independent Kosovo and strictly adhere to Res 1244, the Helsinki Final Act etc.
2. Offer Serbia fast and unconditional full membership of the Union.
3. Declare no confidence in the Hague Tribunal and agitate to have it shut down.

They won't do any of these things and until they do Olli Rehn should shut his mouth.
(Tom O'Donoghue, 3 May 2008 19:12) "

Tom I have a simple question for you. Why should EU do this for the Serbs? It's not doing it for the Croats. As a matter of fact it hasn't unconditionally accepted any of the members. Why should the Serbs be treated so specially? Is it because they started countless wars in the space of one decade?
If what you argue is to be implemented then the recipe of joining the EU would be simple. Every country would follow Serbia's step. Start wars, kill your neighbors, and orient yourself towards Russia. Then the EU would unconditionally reward you for all the wars and crimes you committed and you would be a full EU member.
Serbia wants to be a Russian puppet, well that's their choice. Outsiders can only tell them what comes with it. In the end the choice is theirs.

and B92 is publishing it, what´s the best about it! :)
(Jovan, 3 May 2008 17:07)

B92's job is to report the news, not to select what's best for you to read and what isn't...that's PRC government's job. If you don't agree with a certain article or find it insulting, biased, annoying, do as I do, close it. I'm not exactly sure why you disagree with Rehn. Serbia is located in EUROPE, and it should direct itself towards EUROPE, not Russia. Serbia can't play as the big bad guy when it's not that big. Don't repeat the same mistakes as others before you. You don't want all your neighbors and Brussel to turn against you.

Turning to russia.

recently i liked one of the posters sent by one Serbian who commented about Serbian Diaspora talking tough and suppotring the radicals,He was complaining that these people are making matters worse for Serbia with their Gung HO attitude, and that these people do not live In Serbia and do not know anything, how living in Serbia is at the moment
This Serbian fellow was trying to get the message across to people that the only way for Serbia is Europe.

As for Turning to Russia, as far as i know a lot of elderly people are dying in Russia as the care system is shambles there and the problem of the (Dodgy Vodka) that makes people go blind.
I realy would think twice if i wanted the support of that sort of country.

Clearly, Moscow is the birthplace of the Antichrist who will subdue Serbia into darkness. Serbs should listen to people like Oli Rehn who know for sure: America's destiny is to fight Evil Antichrist worldwide and prepare the Earth to Jesus Second Coming. If, by accident, there is no Antichrist around, we will find one just to prove, the world needs us.

Let's hope, the Second Coming won't happen. Otherwise Jesus may ask us in person about the sin of devastating entire countries, killing millions of innocent with the goal of self-enrichment... and other minor issues like... like... that 9/11 which looks somewhat stinky, tsssk, tsssk.

"Kosovo is often cited in Serbia's internal discussions as a reason to turn toward Moscow, instead of toward Brussels. This is a dangerous game, because Serbia would be the first to suffer if authorities and fragile economy in Kosovo were to fail," Rehn said in a lecture in Oxford, reported by his cabinet."

This one takes the cake. If Serbia were to cozy up to Moscow, Pristina would fail? And if Pristina fails, Belgrade would be the first to suffer? Convoluted logic if you ask me.

Mr Ren You have some great ideas, and you're great man.
Dont be discouraged by those whose hobby is saying no to other people's ingenuity.
Stick to your guns until you find someone who is secure enough in themselves to help rather than to hinder.
Hang on in there, things will seem better soon.Honest.

Long Live Kosova EU UK USA Albania Turkey Japan.
(ronaldo USA, 3 May 2008 13:27)

Firstly...Learn to spell. Secondly, the most insecure nation of people I have ever come across are Albanians. That is why so few of them ever stay in Albania, instead they gather in groups in other countries.

Mr. Rehn, who is playing the dangerous game? Why do you worry so much about future of Serbia and at the same time cut her limb? Your claim about European democracy is pure lay. Pushing for signature of Tadic/Delic under SAA just before election is clear interfering to internal after of Serbia. Only blind person cannot see it.

"Serbia should not undermine influences, because it needs the guiding hand of the European Union in order for Kosovo to function,"

Serbia doesn't need a "guiding hand" of EU. Serbia would be more then happy to accept a "helping hand" of EU as a whole, with KiM. You know well that cut limb cannot live without rest of the body. Don't you?

For as long as you and EU support terrorist and organ traficking state,we all know who we rather trust Olli.

Oh dear, does anyone really believe this rubbish?

Where did he get "nationalist authoritarianism"? The only authoritarianism we are getting is coming from the EU. We must do as they say otherwise they are talking about isolation and other threats. Russia is saying nothing of the sort. Russia is offering investment and energy security, it is protecting Kosovo for the Serbians while the EU attempts to grab it away.

I don't think this speech will go down well with Serbians who have traditional ties with Russia. However, what I can see is a pattern where they are appealing to the younger Serbian voters who are the easiest to manipulate.

This blatant interference into Serbian internal affairs is unbelievable. Olli, why don't you quit sticking your nose into Serbia's affairs, it doesn't concern you. The 'self-isolation' propoganda that you preach are pure lies, and you know it. Countries will trade with Serbia no matter what, they have no choice! Serbia is an integral part of Europe, and on the route from east to west, and west to east. If you were a true friend of Serbia, then why did you recognize the fake, illegal and immoral state which is run by terrorists and organ traffickers? Actions speak louder than words, and your actions are completely anti-Serbian.
Russia have shown by their actions how true Serbian friends behave. You, Solana, and the rest of your ilk, have shown you are enemies of Serbia.
Cheers!

Olli Rehn would have been a great agitator in the McCarthy-era...

this attempt to manipulate and to create fear amongst the serbian voters is so shameful, given that it´s coming from a "democrat european"...

and B92 is publishing it, what´s the best about it! :)

Serbia, choose an easterly path. From an EU rep in Kosovo, all is not what it seems, and those two puppets who signed the SAA document are clueless.

They are just couriers delivering serbia to its final place at the bottom of a capitalistic pile, wrapped in red tape. EU WANTS TO DEVELOP SERBIA AFTER THEY HAVE CONTROL OF YOUR FUTURE, AND DOMESTIC AFFAIRS.

Stupid comments from a man who has been ordered to put something out in the media that will attempt to influence elections.

Serbia has been turned towards Moscow for many decades and has had a great relationship with Russia.

What a bunch of characters these guys are. Pretending to lead the blind as to not let them fall in a ditch, while speaking in tones which suggest they are more than willing to push them off a cliff if they don't get their way. So a compassionate lot they are.

...or risk self-isolation if they choose nationalist authoritarianism that is offered by those who reject the European Union and the European way of living -

These people are real jokers...!
They are like frogs who probably don't know that there is a world outside of EU...

Why is it so important to them, what path Serbs choose, after all the path has been shown to then after the shameless recognition of an illegal state, carving up of Serbia, Bombing Serbs, killing/maiming/raping Serbs, destroying homes/factories etc.

If Serbs fall into this trap of 'snakes', not only Kosovo but Serbia itself is under threat under this 'REAL AUTHORITARIAN TRAP'...

Amen to the real Serb party - the SRS/DSS Combine...

If the EU bureaucrats like Rehn were genuinely worried about Serbia turning to Moscow, they would:
1. Move against the illegally declared independent Kosovo and strictly adhere to Res 1244, the Helsinki Final Act etc.
2. Offer Serbia fast and unconditional full membership of the Union.
3. Declare no confidence in the Hague Tribunal and agitate to have it shut down.

They won't do any of these things and until they do Olli Rehn should shut his mouth.

Why Serbia turns to Moscow is because Moscow supports Serbia in defending their right to sovereign territory.
They are among the hand-full of countries in Europe that support the Serbs in their struggle against almost entire Western world.
I don't see how not to be a friend with someone that fights by your side when all others just want to kick you while you are down.

Nothing scares these EU bureaucrats more than the prospect of a successful Serbia outside the EU.

This would reveal to all Europeans that they are good for nothing.

Serbia is and has always been located in the heart of Europe.It is a silly concept to say that Serbs should choose between Europe and the moon and this Rehn guy is ridiculous to say the least.18 countries in Europe have recognized the illegal UDI but are there not 40+countries in Europe?As far as economics Serbia should do business with ALL countries but should show no preference for those that do not respect its territorial integrity.Even in the EU itself there are many countries who believe that Serbia is more important to Europe than Albania and will never recognize Kosovo as an independent country.For the next 50 years let the EU fund this economic black hole while Serbia retains the legal deed to all the land.People come and go but the land is forever.Shalom

Only if someone has a real brain damage to don't understand which way Serbia has to choose.... and that it's all up to serbian VOTERS

hey KS ( Kansas? )

let´s just start using our brains! not falling for the shameful attempt of bullying free voters with horror-scenario´s means to "turn towards Russia"? have I understood you right? excuse me, not you, of course...that article...

well then, WHO for heaven´s sake says that Serbia is not european??? who says that not accepting blackmail means not being outside of europe? that´s simply not the case!

you are completely right, Serbia is in Europe, and it will stay that way...whether Serbia enters the EU or not.
is Norway an isolated country because of not being a EU-member?

is Switzerland isolated, and non-european? remember, Switzerland is not a EU-member either!

what should we think about those ineffectual attempts to create an atmosphere of fear and intimidation?

by the way, don´t you wonder that it is only and always the same figures publishing their "opinion" here? I mean, Mr. William "unique case" Montgomery? hello? do you see the pattern here?

I ask myself why only an american politician and diplomat writes his "opinion" here...

isn´t that a little bit strange even for you?

why does nobody blame Germany for having good relations to Russia as "turning towards Russia"?

who says that Serbia is turning towards Russia??? Serbia has good relations to Brasil, Argentina, Chile, China, South Africa, Indonesia, Vietnam, India ...to name only a few...

who says that Serbia is limited to Russia?

do you see what I mean? it´s mere propaganda... and I am critisizing that. by only closing it I would let them create the impression as if everything´s okay, and their lies are right... but it isn´t.

if it let´s you sleep better: Serbia will rise economically, no matter whether entering the EU in 2012 or 2040...if the EU still exists then in the present shape...

Serbia doesn´t need the EU, but the EU needs Serbia ( remember Serbia´s the key-country in the western Balkans )

that´s something Olli Rehn won´t openly admit, I guess.

Only a dog would keep going back to it's master for more beatings. I have nothing against dogs as they are loyal creatures but Serbs are people.

Why would any Serb behave like a dog? EU keeps beating them, thereatening them and feeding them rubbish, yet this same EU expects Serbs to keep coming back for more.

Serbian people are loyal, proud people and it is shameful how they have been treated by no less than their former allies and friends.
Now they have a chance to see who their REAL friends are and that is Russia.

Why would they not turn to Russia? A country which has shown them respect and has backed them all the way.

What is Europe offering Serbia? It won't matter if Serbs decide to become dogs and give in to EU every time. EU will treat them even worse, for if you don't respect yourself you cannot expect anyone else to.

Bottom line. Offer real friendship and respect and Serbia will be glad to join you. Offer them humiliation and they will join the people who will treat them as equals. So if Europe is sincere in wanting Seriba as an equal partner then they must reverse their anti Serb policies.

"Serbia is located in EUROPE, and it should direct itself towards EUROPE, not Russia."

(KS, 3 May 2008 21:49)"

KS,

So Serbia is located in Europe and Moscow is not???? You ought to sue your geography teacher big time!

johny,

1. The wars of the 1990s were not "started" by Serbia. When the history of the wars are written in years to come, it will be seen as much more complex than that. Many parties contributed to these conflicts and narrow prejudice does not help understanding or resolution.
2. The direction the Serbian people want to take now will be determined on May 11.
3. My basic point is that the EU should either put up or shut up.
Regards.

a better standard of living ? what is this clown talking about ? i live between london and novi sad because of my serb wife .. the "standard" or lifestyle of living is far more enjoyable and healther in NS , maybe he means we should all become boring and dull like the scandinavians .

I am glad to see that the responses have been overwhelmingly opposed to their article. The first paragraph reads like a Christiane Amanpour report - emotionally manipulative propaganda and lies. There's not much more that can be said here - except that the British,American and French governments are likely to continue their support of the destruction of Serbia, despite the fall of the Milosevic regime, despite the obvious facts that are arising from Kosovo (no genocide, number of people killed in Kosovo by all sides less than 5000, Serbs and all non-Albanians are at the receiving end of ethnic cleansing/cultural extermination since 1999), despite the fact that support of Balkan Muslims has not prevented Muslim terror in the West (London bombings, Madrid bombings, September 11). Serbia should ignore the EU carrot and turn away from Western Europe, which has for the last 15+ years pursued and still pursues a distinctly anti-Serbia/anti-Serb policy, from former allies France and Britain to old enemies Germany, Austria,

Maybe Serbia will be first country who will democratically refuse to join EU, and that will be beginning of something new. Maybe that is why these two social engineers sound so reconciliatory, because that would be something so unexpected: the people of one small impoverished country refusing to give up national identity and to become "European consumers". That could be contagious!
Only when Serbs are allowed to exercise the same right the West gave to others in former Yugoslavia, then the dust will settle. Freedom for Republic of Srpska, freedom for Serbs in northern part of Kosovo, no matter how long it takes! We won't give up, take close look at Serb history. Until then, it will be big NO to EU.



Serbia, its time to move forward. Embrace Europe and human rights, treat your neighbours, as you wish to be treated.
Serbia, you can build a great relationship with Kosovo, all you have to do is accept the Kosovars as equals.

Join EU, Pleese. It was not enough for the UN to whitewash NATO's illegal invasion and occupation of Kosovo, to sit idly by and even justify the ethnic cleansing and barbaric destruction of Serbs and their cultural treasures, or even to stage sham elections designed to give a veneer of legitimacy to the abomination they have created. Now they will allow the appointment of a gangster, murderer, and terrorist as "prime minister" of the occupied province.

It was not enough to launch an illegal war of aggression against Iraq, occupy, and devastate the country, based on specious and outright false "intelligence." Now the exact same accusations are leveled at Iran, and the dogs of war are baying for a sequel.

It was not enough to create and fund a sophisticated fifth column to overthrow Slobodan Milosevic in the fall of 2000. The same recipe was used again in Belarus (where it failed), Georgia (2003), and now Ukraine: propaganda, demonstrations, and threats seek to overturn electoral results. Sure, the ballot box is a false god, but the mob is the falsest.

Any sort of logic, principle, or coherent idea still in existence is under merciless assault of those whose only ambition is to conquer, and only pleasure to destroy. What we are seeing are not "double standards," as some complain, but no standards at all.

It's not that the UN and NATO and EU and the U.S. don't know who Ramush Haradinaj is. After all, they made him: sponsored his terrorist army, promoted him from a local thug into a politician, covered up his murderous activities, and even patched him up when his victims shot back. So, his appointment is deliberate, and the limp protestations of EU's foreign policy commissar are likely just a smokescreen.

Another factor in this travesty is that Kosovo's occupiers are confident the authorities in Belgrade – who had indicted Haradinaj for murder, ethnic cleansing, abduction, and terrorism, to name just a few – would swallow this insult just like every other that has come from the Empire in the past five years. When Serbian leaders get angry, they talk about "human rights" and "European integrations." When Albanian mobs get angry, people die.

Loosing control?? This is what we want several years,now! Desperate,bringed to the edge and open,finally..The Ultimatum is issued formally trough some..,Olli..

What's the strenght of an "army" able to send OLLI as a messenger?!

ALL PAPER TIGERS YOU ARE!!!

If it was Ultimatum EU/USA analysts would easy predict SERBIAN answer,it was always same..What if it's not?! (It's not!)

Europe,why can't you turn to your business??! You're "passing" USA but china is "passing" you!! Why you "waste" precious time with Serbia?? What's going wrong?? Why you are in panic?!

Do not blackmail Serbs Europe, we can bring you 1000 years back!! There's no isolation,at all!!

Paper tigers you are!!

U.S. allies weary of efforts to drag them into U.S. wars. U.S. imperialism confronts something of a crisis as its partners rethink where their real interests lie. The GDP of the EU now exceeds the U.S. figure. The euro is much stronger than the dollar. People everywhere hate the U.S. government, which they associate with war-promoting lies and general savagery. Bush is out of political capital, domestically and internationally, as Kosovo announces its independence, made possible by U.S. lies and bloody intervention, “threatening,” as the Russians put it, “the foundations of a world order.”

Everything dies eventually. Hitler’s “New Order in Europe,” Japan’s “New Order in East Asia,” George H. W. Bush’s “New World Order” proclaimed as he launched the first Gulf War in 1990. The present world order is profoundly unfair and deserves to be threatened, by the right people, with a better alternative. But the assault on Yugoslavia in 1999 brought nothing positive; rather, more intolerance and suffering, more ethnic cleansing. A new regime emerges, applauded by its American sponsors and most of the EU (but rejected by Greece, Cyprus, Romania, Slovakia, Spain and Bulgaria). It is wrapped in smoke, in a legacy of smoldering churches. Smells like the cremation of a world order.

i choose civilization, culture, economic future or short russia!

oli the farmer can choose pseudostates like bosnia, albania or kosovo (until liberated).

Lucky Serbs getting this offer from one of the most respected statesmen today.
Is this the 'democratic' choice that many Serbs seem to be opting for.
I bet like most of the rest of Europe's people Tadic won't be showing you this.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=zSjt4JEOpPs&eurl=http://snoedel.punt.nl/?gr=476770
This is the EUSSR. This is the media censorship that goes with it. This is what happens when you join. You are trapped in a dictatorship of the elite and the NWO.
BE FREE. Be aligned with the future.