"EU deal signature will be annulled"

Whatever about the merits or otherwise of the SAA, the most shocking thing to me about the signing was the back-slapping that was going on between Tadic and Solana.
"Have a glass of champagne Boris."
"I'd love one Javier. Cheers!"

Does Tadic not remember what this man did to his country?

Fully agree Mr Kostunica, looking forward to the SRS and DSS goverment.

What kind of "true, patriotic" leaders are Tadic and Djelic??? Why would they sign the SAA when they KNOW what the consequences are- accepting the loss of Kosovo. What are Tadic and Djelic thinking that they can "outfool" the Eurocrats. Either those two are so stupid or they are being "bought" off- for the price of Serbia loosing it's heart.

Kostunica is the most honorable leader you Serbs have.Give 98% of your vote to the DSS and split the remaining 2% between the DS and SRS.After the election the Serb Parliament should meet and approve the 80% of the SAA dealing with economic issues and cross out the 20% dealing with political issues and mail it back to Brussels.The EU works GREAT as an economic/free trade zone evidenced by the fact that none of the 27 countries which VOLUNTARILY joined have seen fit to VOLUNTARILY leave if they did not think that being in the club was more beneficial than being outside the economic zone.The EU as a whole cannot recognize Kosovo as long as Cyprus still exists and the UNSC will never recognize Kosovo as long as China still exists which by the way is going to be the most important country in this century no matter how much it may pain a European or American to realize this fact.Shalom

i was a ds voter for years and also a tadic voter. i think the thought of this today annoys me more than ds and tadic themselves. but nevermind now. what i want to say, is that kostunica speaks for us today. he speaks for those of us who love our coutnry and never stopped, and were shocked by the pro eu anti serbia actions of ds after february 17. i look ahead to a date much more important, may 11. february 17 means absolutely nothing if we elect normal politicians who see serbia's interest first on may 11. everybody knows this. thats why eu's tragic comic rush to sign saa. i believe deeply that we will withstand all this and have a dss srs government. btw, excellent remarks about strategic marketing. the name of that company speaks for itself when you think about it.

This guy is going to go down in history as someone who annuls every decission anyone ever made. He can not do anything himself so he is just being negative about everything. "Poor him" not really i do not care about him.

Just try it mr.Kostunica, just try it,(if you can) I dare you to cancel such an opportunity agreement SAA

"Imagine if Serbia, for instance, recognized Scotland's independence,...

What a silly and inappropriate comparison!

Again again Kostunica is trying the hardest to mislead the public opinion about Kosova. He just "forget" the fact that there has been a war in Kosova and he also "forgets" the ethnic cleansing orchastrated by the Serbian state agaist its "own" people, Kosovar Albanians. I don't mind reminding him about that)

Jim, status neutral works against Serbia's interests when the majority of EU nations have recognised NATO's occupation.

Serbia does not need to sign status neutral agreements with agressive entities.

I think you'll be surprised how important Serbia is to the EU entry of other Balkan nations. Without strong Serbian links to the EU, some neighbours will be struggling.

@ZK - Really, I am as angry as many other 'foreigners' about the way that Serbia has been treated over Kosovo. It is truly disgraceful. But I can also see that Serbia needs to pursue European integration.

It is all very well for Serbs who are already in the EU and gaining the benefits of membership to preach to Serbs in Serbia to stand firm and fight the national cause, but the Serbs in Serbia need jobs, economic prosperity and are just as enitled to a stable future as you.

Serbia can retain its claim to Kosovo in the same way as Ireland claimed NI for decades. However, the time has come for Serbia to start enjoying the same benefits of EU membership as 450 million others around Europe!

On that note, please stop trying the argument that the EU needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the EU. This is exactly the same point many Turks make. It is not true. The EU wants Serbia to join, but it does not need Serbia to join! To argue otherwise is simply delusional.

No agreement, no deal, nothing should have been signed in the middle of an Election campaign in Serbia.
Tadic-Delic are unprofessional, let's not discuss loyalties!
Deals are signed before or after an Election with an Outsider. EU has done itself much damage. EU has lost much honour and taken Tadic-Delic with it.
Looking forward to seeing a DSS revival in Serbia.

I dont make threats often, i'm a very peaceful individual who really wouldnt do anything to anyone..but in kostunica and nikolic's cases..i would make a GRAVE exception.

If he successfully pulls serbia out of the SAA, i am coming for him.

I would be the first to agree that the way in which the question of Kosovo has been handled has been appalling. However, this is not the way to fight this. Reading through the SAA, it is quite clearly status-neutral. It simply recognises that Kosovo is not included as it is under UN administration.

As far as I am concerned, Kostunica is distorting the picture for his own ends. Kostunica and the Radicals are not fighting for Serbian interests, they are fighting for Serbian votes. In the name fo popularism, they are determined to push Serbia into complete isolation from the EU. The only response to this will be to see the EU advance the candidacy and accession of other states, including Montenegro and leave Serbia even more at odds with the rest of the continent.

I fully understand the anger people feel towards the countries that have accepted the illegal UDI. However, and without giving up its claim to Kosovo, it is time for Serbia to start moving in a new direction. Really, it is not worth losing another five or ten years. Enough time has been lost already!

Is any Serb here who supports DS to tell us about what is the mood of those people gathered around his speeches?
Do his words actually mean anything for the masses in Serbia proper?
Bgdanon perhaps?

It is clear the Mr K, is doing this for internal consumption. Did he not agree with the initialling of th SAA at the end of last year? Have the words been changed in it? Is there any difference at all from waht he agreed to be signed and what was actually signed? Er...No! Can Mr K point out exactly where the SAA says that KOSOVO is independent? Er.....NO! Can he point out exactly where its says, that in signing said SAA the undersigned recognise KOSOVAN UDI? Er.... NO!MR K, please be constructive, stop rambling on, about waht you consider signing the SAA to mean, and actually state what it actually says. It seems you are afraid that should Serbia chose an EU path, that dinosaurs like yoy with your invert nationalist ways will find yourself out of a job. It's ok for you to not want EU integration, you are not one of the poor souls who is ina queue at some embassy trying to get out of Serbia, perhaps if you were then you might give your people a chance of a better life, thatn the one they have now. I was in Belgrade 2 weeks ago, and was saddened by tye amount of people who aspire to a European standard of living but are thwarted by the likes of you. You don't acre about the real Serb, you just want control. You are no better then Milosevic or Tito. See beyond foolish pride and let the Serbian people live as they should, free, wealthy, and proud. As for the comment about Scotland, i did laugh, i think the comparison is somewhat pathetic, because the majority of Scots have requested independence, and if they did, i have no doubt that it would be granted. It's called democracy MR K. Try it you might like it!

Kosovo Kosovo Kosovo Kosovo.. Again stating Kosovo as a reason for undoing something that is good for Serbia. Kosovo is very regular in his political vocabulary. In fact, Kosovo is the only subject that SRS and DSS used during the electoral campaign. It is awful that they are using this conflict that is not even a real internal conflict on Serbia and the only thing that Kosovo hurts is the Serbian pride. Where are the debates about the unemployment that is close the 40% ? Where are the debates about the conditions of work in the private companies and the lack of state regulations on the work market ? Where are the debates about the fact that there are still families that are surviving with 300 Euros a month ? Where are the debates about corruption ? Where are the debates about fight against criminality ? The DSS and SRS are only and only debating about Kosovo.. what does Kosovo change right now ? What is done is done.. let the UN do its job and investigate the case, there is nothing that Kostunica or Nikolic can do against it and they are still hammering on the same screw. People are not stupid, but still, those types of 'nationalists' and 'patriots' politicians are doing as if their people are stupid and don't need a better life condition..

According to this statement PM of Serbia represents 40% of Serbia not the 60% who support SAA.

On 04.30 official german news agency Deutsche Welle published an article titled "Serbian Nationalists Reject Signing of EU Agreement as Treason" (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3303115,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf), where you can read:
"Serbian President Boris Tadic and Deputy Prime Minister Bozidar Djelic signed the SAA, which legalizes the secession of Serbia's province of Kosovo and is a precursor to EU membership talks, with the European Union on Tuesday, a move denounced by Serbian nationalists as treason."

@ Peggy - international administration can only end with a UN resolution. Russia will block this without Serbia's agreement. By the way, don't forget that Belgrade freely accepts the jurisdiction of the UN in Kosovo. Kostunica is simply distorting the picture for his own ends. Anyway, believe what you want. As far as I am concerned, the only people who will suffer through these games of his are ordinary Serbs.

EU and its representatives headed by have once more given a hand of friendship and mercy to Serbia and its citizens by offering and signing the SAA agreement. The truth should be told as it really is, Serbia did not do everything needed for signing this agreement and still EU has decided to go with it. I see it as the last resort, in order to help this country not to fall from an edge of the cliff into a comlete darkness of what could be described as 3rd world of Europe. Special thanks goes to Dutch government which for at least a moment managed to find the understanding, to put aside the lack of actions required from Serbia and postpone these requirements for later delievery. Besides that, it is important to stress out the commitments, efforts & devotion coming from Mr. Solana who commited a great part of hes life's work in order to bring the democracy to Balkans. All in all, it is an act of outstanding good will coming from EU to help this country and region to put behind the ways the dictatorships, ultranationalism, wars and dark past of the 90s. Statement coming from current or better described as resigning pm saying the deal will be annulled simply shows that backward forces are still strong here and that they would gladly go in coalition with ultranationalistic Radical Party(whose leader is beeing trialed for war crimes) & pull this country and entire region back into the disaster. I believe, taking the fact that I live in Serbia as a minority, and it is no big secret that human rights of the minorities in Serbia are neglected, that we are not ready for our lives to be annulled and I believe May 11th will bring a new democratic government that will once and for all put the dark past and backward forces behind the locked doors and embrace the road and values of free & democracatic family of EU nations.

Jim, You say that Kosovo is not included because it is under the UN administration and so SAA should be signed.

This is a temporary situation only. What happens when Kosovo is no longer under UN administration? The SAA doesn't mention that. To me it says that if we can exclude Kosovo now for whatever reason then we can discuss the status of that later on. Not good enough.

They have to include Kosovo as it is a part of Serbia no matter who is administrating it on temporary basis. Anything less is admitting that Kosovo might not be part of Serbia.

You are wrong my friend, very wrong.

The SAA doesn't mention that.
(Peggy, 4 May 2008 02:53)

That's precisely why SAA is a carrot which should be eaten first, than EU being black-mailed for the next one. As long as SRS is strong - but in opposition, E.U. pants are wet with some brown stain and they ready to produce more carrots. Don't stop demanding more.

Same applies (economically) to Russia, too, by the way - just the other party signs and PM blocks until Russia does not give more. Ideally, either the PM or the President should be the "good cop" towards EU and "bad cop" towards Russia, while the ministers of energetics/transoprt/finances/etx should be the "good cops" towards Russia.

It looks, you have a decent set-up to get the most out of situation if played properly. It happen by accident, but you should use that situation to a maximum.

I do not comment about this being morally good or bad, I am saying, it is USEFUL. And "победителей не судят". ;-)

Just try it mr.Kostunica, just try it,(if you can) I dare you to cancel such an opportunity agreement SAA

This guy is going to go down in history as someone who annuls every decission anyone ever made. He can not do anything himself so he is just being negative about everything. "Poor him" not really i do not care about him.

"Imagine if Serbia, for instance, recognized Scotland's independence,...

What a silly and inappropriate comparison!

Again again Kostunica is trying the hardest to mislead the public opinion about Kosova. He just "forget" the fact that there has been a war in Kosova and he also "forgets" the ethnic cleansing orchastrated by the Serbian state agaist its "own" people, Kosovar Albanians. I don't mind reminding him about that)

EU and its representatives headed by have once more given a hand of friendship and mercy to Serbia and its citizens by offering and signing the SAA agreement. The truth should be told as it really is, Serbia did not do everything needed for signing this agreement and still EU has decided to go with it. I see it as the last resort, in order to help this country not to fall from an edge of the cliff into a comlete darkness of what could be described as 3rd world of Europe. Special thanks goes to Dutch government which for at least a moment managed to find the understanding, to put aside the lack of actions required from Serbia and postpone these requirements for later delievery. Besides that, it is important to stress out the commitments, efforts & devotion coming from Mr. Solana who commited a great part of hes life's work in order to bring the democracy to Balkans. All in all, it is an act of outstanding good will coming from EU to help this country and region to put behind the ways the dictatorships, ultranationalism, wars and dark past of the 90s. Statement coming from current or better described as resigning pm saying the deal will be annulled simply shows that backward forces are still strong here and that they would gladly go in coalition with ultranationalistic Radical Party(whose leader is beeing trialed for war crimes) & pull this country and entire region back into the disaster. I believe, taking the fact that I live in Serbia as a minority, and it is no big secret that human rights of the minorities in Serbia are neglected, that we are not ready for our lives to be annulled and I believe May 11th will bring a new democratic government that will once and for all put the dark past and backward forces behind the locked doors and embrace the road and values of free & democracatic family of EU nations.

Is any Serb here who supports DS to tell us about what is the mood of those people gathered around his speeches?
Do his words actually mean anything for the masses in Serbia proper?
Bgdanon perhaps?

Whatever about the merits or otherwise of the SAA, the most shocking thing to me about the signing was the back-slapping that was going on between Tadic and Solana.
"Have a glass of champagne Boris."
"I'd love one Javier. Cheers!"

Does Tadic not remember what this man did to his country?

Fully agree Mr Kostunica, looking forward to the SRS and DSS goverment.

According to this statement PM of Serbia represents 40% of Serbia not the 60% who support SAA.

I would be the first to agree that the way in which the question of Kosovo has been handled has been appalling. However, this is not the way to fight this. Reading through the SAA, it is quite clearly status-neutral. It simply recognises that Kosovo is not included as it is under UN administration.

As far as I am concerned, Kostunica is distorting the picture for his own ends. Kostunica and the Radicals are not fighting for Serbian interests, they are fighting for Serbian votes. In the name fo popularism, they are determined to push Serbia into complete isolation from the EU. The only response to this will be to see the EU advance the candidacy and accession of other states, including Montenegro and leave Serbia even more at odds with the rest of the continent.

I fully understand the anger people feel towards the countries that have accepted the illegal UDI. However, and without giving up its claim to Kosovo, it is time for Serbia to start moving in a new direction. Really, it is not worth losing another five or ten years. Enough time has been lost already!

Kostunica is the most honorable leader you Serbs have.Give 98% of your vote to the DSS and split the remaining 2% between the DS and SRS.After the election the Serb Parliament should meet and approve the 80% of the SAA dealing with economic issues and cross out the 20% dealing with political issues and mail it back to Brussels.The EU works GREAT as an economic/free trade zone evidenced by the fact that none of the 27 countries which VOLUNTARILY joined have seen fit to VOLUNTARILY leave if they did not think that being in the club was more beneficial than being outside the economic zone.The EU as a whole cannot recognize Kosovo as long as Cyprus still exists and the UNSC will never recognize Kosovo as long as China still exists which by the way is going to be the most important country in this century no matter how much it may pain a European or American to realize this fact.Shalom

What kind of "true, patriotic" leaders are Tadic and Djelic??? Why would they sign the SAA when they KNOW what the consequences are- accepting the loss of Kosovo. What are Tadic and Djelic thinking that they can "outfool" the Eurocrats. Either those two are so stupid or they are being "bought" off- for the price of Serbia loosing it's heart.

i was a ds voter for years and also a tadic voter. i think the thought of this today annoys me more than ds and tadic themselves. but nevermind now. what i want to say, is that kostunica speaks for us today. he speaks for those of us who love our coutnry and never stopped, and were shocked by the pro eu anti serbia actions of ds after february 17. i look ahead to a date much more important, may 11. february 17 means absolutely nothing if we elect normal politicians who see serbia's interest first on may 11. everybody knows this. thats why eu's tragic comic rush to sign saa. i believe deeply that we will withstand all this and have a dss srs government. btw, excellent remarks about strategic marketing. the name of that company speaks for itself when you think about it.

Jim, status neutral works against Serbia's interests when the majority of EU nations have recognised NATO's occupation.

Serbia does not need to sign status neutral agreements with agressive entities.

I think you'll be surprised how important Serbia is to the EU entry of other Balkan nations. Without strong Serbian links to the EU, some neighbours will be struggling.

No agreement, no deal, nothing should have been signed in the middle of an Election campaign in Serbia.
Tadic-Delic are unprofessional, let's not discuss loyalties!
Deals are signed before or after an Election with an Outsider. EU has done itself much damage. EU has lost much honour and taken Tadic-Delic with it.
Looking forward to seeing a DSS revival in Serbia.

On 04.30 official german news agency Deutsche Welle published an article titled "Serbian Nationalists Reject Signing of EU Agreement as Treason" (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3303115,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf), where you can read:
"Serbian President Boris Tadic and Deputy Prime Minister Bozidar Djelic signed the SAA, which legalizes the secession of Serbia's province of Kosovo and is a precursor to EU membership talks, with the European Union on Tuesday, a move denounced by Serbian nationalists as treason."

It is clear the Mr K, is doing this for internal consumption. Did he not agree with the initialling of th SAA at the end of last year? Have the words been changed in it? Is there any difference at all from waht he agreed to be signed and what was actually signed? Er...No! Can Mr K point out exactly where the SAA says that KOSOVO is independent? Er.....NO! Can he point out exactly where its says, that in signing said SAA the undersigned recognise KOSOVAN UDI? Er.... NO!MR K, please be constructive, stop rambling on, about waht you consider signing the SAA to mean, and actually state what it actually says. It seems you are afraid that should Serbia chose an EU path, that dinosaurs like yoy with your invert nationalist ways will find yourself out of a job. It's ok for you to not want EU integration, you are not one of the poor souls who is ina queue at some embassy trying to get out of Serbia, perhaps if you were then you might give your people a chance of a better life, thatn the one they have now. I was in Belgrade 2 weeks ago, and was saddened by tye amount of people who aspire to a European standard of living but are thwarted by the likes of you. You don't acre about the real Serb, you just want control. You are no better then Milosevic or Tito. See beyond foolish pride and let the Serbian people live as they should, free, wealthy, and proud. As for the comment about Scotland, i did laugh, i think the comparison is somewhat pathetic, because the majority of Scots have requested independence, and if they did, i have no doubt that it would be granted. It's called democracy MR K. Try it you might like it!

I dont make threats often, i'm a very peaceful individual who really wouldnt do anything to anyone..but in kostunica and nikolic's cases..i would make a GRAVE exception.

If he successfully pulls serbia out of the SAA, i am coming for him.

Kosovo Kosovo Kosovo Kosovo.. Again stating Kosovo as a reason for undoing something that is good for Serbia. Kosovo is very regular in his political vocabulary. In fact, Kosovo is the only subject that SRS and DSS used during the electoral campaign. It is awful that they are using this conflict that is not even a real internal conflict on Serbia and the only thing that Kosovo hurts is the Serbian pride. Where are the debates about the unemployment that is close the 40% ? Where are the debates about the conditions of work in the private companies and the lack of state regulations on the work market ? Where are the debates about the fact that there are still families that are surviving with 300 Euros a month ? Where are the debates about corruption ? Where are the debates about fight against criminality ? The DSS and SRS are only and only debating about Kosovo.. what does Kosovo change right now ? What is done is done.. let the UN do its job and investigate the case, there is nothing that Kostunica or Nikolic can do against it and they are still hammering on the same screw. People are not stupid, but still, those types of 'nationalists' and 'patriots' politicians are doing as if their people are stupid and don't need a better life condition..

@ZK - Really, I am as angry as many other 'foreigners' about the way that Serbia has been treated over Kosovo. It is truly disgraceful. But I can also see that Serbia needs to pursue European integration.

It is all very well for Serbs who are already in the EU and gaining the benefits of membership to preach to Serbs in Serbia to stand firm and fight the national cause, but the Serbs in Serbia need jobs, economic prosperity and are just as enitled to a stable future as you.

Serbia can retain its claim to Kosovo in the same way as Ireland claimed NI for decades. However, the time has come for Serbia to start enjoying the same benefits of EU membership as 450 million others around Europe!

On that note, please stop trying the argument that the EU needs Serbia more than Serbia needs the EU. This is exactly the same point many Turks make. It is not true. The EU wants Serbia to join, but it does not need Serbia to join! To argue otherwise is simply delusional.

Jim, You say that Kosovo is not included because it is under the UN administration and so SAA should be signed.

This is a temporary situation only. What happens when Kosovo is no longer under UN administration? The SAA doesn't mention that. To me it says that if we can exclude Kosovo now for whatever reason then we can discuss the status of that later on. Not good enough.

They have to include Kosovo as it is a part of Serbia no matter who is administrating it on temporary basis. Anything less is admitting that Kosovo might not be part of Serbia.

You are wrong my friend, very wrong.

The SAA doesn't mention that.
(Peggy, 4 May 2008 02:53)

That's precisely why SAA is a carrot which should be eaten first, than EU being black-mailed for the next one. As long as SRS is strong - but in opposition, E.U. pants are wet with some brown stain and they ready to produce more carrots. Don't stop demanding more.

Same applies (economically) to Russia, too, by the way - just the other party signs and PM blocks until Russia does not give more. Ideally, either the PM or the President should be the "good cop" towards EU and "bad cop" towards Russia, while the ministers of energetics/transoprt/finances/etx should be the "good cops" towards Russia.

It looks, you have a decent set-up to get the most out of situation if played properly. It happen by accident, but you should use that situation to a maximum.

I do not comment about this being morally good or bad, I am saying, it is USEFUL. And "победителей не судят". ;-)

@ Peggy - international administration can only end with a UN resolution. Russia will block this without Serbia's agreement. By the way, don't forget that Belgrade freely accepts the jurisdiction of the UN in Kosovo. Kostunica is simply distorting the picture for his own ends. Anyway, believe what you want. As far as I am concerned, the only people who will suffer through these games of his are ordinary Serbs.