Ohrid summit opens in Macedonia

With Serbia attending, why should it's provice of Kosovo be invited?

The right message has been sent to this pretend entity. It only exists in the make believe world with Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.

The overwhelming majority of the world is simply not interested. Macedonia does not recognise it's existance and never will as they have experienced first hand the attempts to grab land.

What the hell is wrong with you Albanians. You always act like you're the victim and as soon as things don't go your way, you pull out the guns. What world do you live in? You are a nation who's main export is drugs and violence. You try to get everything you want by using force. THIS IS NOT THE MIDDLE AGES. Even then, they had some civilized people.

Mark (Shqype) & ahmed:

Try reading the article again.

It says:
> Macedonian President Branko Crvenkoviski explained that all 18 members of the Central European Initiative had to agree in order for such an invitation to be sent.

Pseudo-state cannot get invitation if Serbia denies permission.

So if it walks like a duck.. quacks like a duck.. then it must be.. a duck :)

Actually those hectares of land were agreed to be part of Macedonia in 2001, when Slobba had been deposed. Milosevic had nothing to do wth this decision.

This will haunt you FYROM, just as it did to Serbia.

To KS:
I am in no way misinformed. The main exports that I mentioned (drugs, you mentioned prostitution (nice of you to add it in there) and violence) are illegal and as such cannot be listed as imports or exports, but they are nonetheless how where your income comes from.

"As Pejoni has said it, this decision will haunt you Macedonia, FYROM, or Republic of Macedonia (Skopje); whatever you wish to call yourself." You just prove my point. You don't get it your way and almost immediately you use threats and violence to get what you want. It's in your nature. It's what you know. Don't deny it and try to pretend you are democratic in any way. Your way of life opposes the very nature of democracy.

ahhhhhh shut up , zipp it , go earn a place in UN first then come back and post comments here.

False Kosovo entity emerged from a shadow and it will remain in a shadow.
The more lies and threats addressed to non-albanians from the Albanian population the longer it will take for the world to accept them.

The overwhelming majority of the world is simply not interested. Macedonia does not recognise it's existance and never will as they have experienced first hand the attempts to grab land.
(ZK UK, 2 May 2008 10:58)
You wait and see until the border demarcation between kosova and macedonia finishes
then recognition will arrive.

ZK UK, it seems all you post on these forums is negativity towards Albanians. I have saved your quote as proof of your ignorance and arrogance for when Macedonia officially recognizes the new, independent European state of Kosova.

They didn't invite Kosova's president because they didn't want to risk a boycott of the Serbs and possibly others which haven't recognized independence yet. But, that will come with time. I just hope you're ready for it!

From the protocol point of view FYROM couldn´t invite any official representative of Kosova, because FYROM has not yet recognised the new country. This is the short-term decision. As for any long-term strategy of FYROM (slavic part), everybody knows that FYROM is lost in space especially the last fiasco in Bucharest, which shows that FYROM do not have any future strategy and any diplomacy. The dramatic mistakes made by FYROM government in the last years especially manipulating the Albanian factor will be paid very hard after the elections. Instead of creating and working hard on important alliances, FYROM desoriented the country. For that you can not blame the Albanians.

'What the hell is wrong with you Albanians. You always act like you're the victim and as soon as things don't go your way, you pull out the guns. What world do you live in? You are a nation who's main export is drugs and violence. You try to get everything you want by using force. THIS IS NOT THE MIDDLE AGES. Even then, they had some civilized people.'
(BT, 2 May 2008 18:00)
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so -- here is my question to b92 (for the hundredth or so time) -- why are we subjected to such hate language, esp. against albanians? is it ok to bash albanians? is it good to bash albanians? now that you have "lost" your supposedly beloved kosovo/a, is it now ok and appropriate to bash albanians? is hate speech "in" here? is that what your teachers have taught you? is that what open journalism is all about? is that your idea of free speech?? your way to ensure respect for human rights??

how can you expect ANYbody with the sense that god gave them to take you the least bit seriously when day after day, week after week, you print, you foster hate speech?? who is in charge there??

again, J'accuse!!

roberto from frisco

Hashim Thaçi is the Prime Minister of Kosova (2.1mn) and 600-700k of Macedonia's Albanians ---- one swift hand gesture and turmoil in Macedonia.

We really thought we could be friends, we were even trying to look the other way when it came to mistreatment of the Albanians, the 2000 hectare of Kosovar Land given to you by Slobodan Milosevic, well no more.

# Actually those hectares of land were agreed to be part of Macedonia in 2001, when Slobba had been deposed. Milosevic had nothing to do wth this decision.
(hrb, 2 May 2008 18:18)

Don't try to lecture me on a matter which you have no knowledge of. I was in Macedonia applying for a visa as a Kosovar - Bosnian. The agreement was cleared just before Slobodan Milosevic was sent to the Hague.

Even that was not so, that is Kosova's land and we declare that act null and void. It's not the principle about land but there are villiges of Kosovars that want to be Kosovars not part of Republic of Macedonia.


BT,

I will respond to you in a civilized manner. I can tell you are ill-informed on Kosova. The main export is metal, not prostitution, not drugs. Only in Serbia there are things such as mafias for tobacco and heroine. Search B92 for "tobacco mafia" you will find plenty of news coverage.

As Pejoni has said it, this decision will haunt you Macedonia, FYROM, or Republic of Macedonia (Skopje); whatever you wish to call yourself.

Hey Roberto,

All that coming from a person in Texas? The stereotype that considers everything below his border "Mexican". Don't come here and preach about hate speech. If you happen to live in an alternate world of your own and seem offended regarding a certain REALITY then by all means keep living in your alternate world and keep your thoughts to yourself. Don't speak out ignorantly regarding things you don't fully comprehend because FOX NEWS happens to distort what they want to tell you.

You speak of hate speech and freedom of speech (democratic principles) and yet your own country is spying on this very conversation you are having. Talk about freedom huh?

I have a "dare" for you. Learn Serbian or Macedonian and move to Kosovo or North-West Macedonia for a month. Identify yourself as such and see what happens. THEN, have the nerve to say what you said.

For the record, I am not Serbian as you had assumed. I am from Denmark, a country which the Albanians seemed to have successfully ruined along with Sweden.

It's easy

Comme on guy's we all know government of FYROM is a puppy of serbia but who is so care they will recognize or not but one i think when albania will be a full Nato member who ? you think a another member except Greece it will use VETO against FYROM... GUESS who ALBANIA so that's the way politics work's....

Hashim Thaçi is the Prime Minister of Kosova (2.1mn) and 600-700k of Macedonia's Albanians ---- one swift hand gesture and turmoil in Macedonia.

We really thought we could be friends, we were even trying to look the other way when it came to mistreatment of the Albanians, the 2000 hectare of Kosovar Land given to you by Slobodan Milosevic, well no more.

ZK UK, it seems all you post on these forums is negativity towards Albanians. I have saved your quote as proof of your ignorance and arrogance for when Macedonia officially recognizes the new, independent European state of Kosova.

They didn't invite Kosova's president because they didn't want to risk a boycott of the Serbs and possibly others which haven't recognized independence yet. But, that will come with time. I just hope you're ready for it!

The overwhelming majority of the world is simply not interested. Macedonia does not recognise it's existance and never will as they have experienced first hand the attempts to grab land.
(ZK UK, 2 May 2008 10:58)
You wait and see until the border demarcation between kosova and macedonia finishes
then recognition will arrive.

From the protocol point of view FYROM couldn´t invite any official representative of Kosova, because FYROM has not yet recognised the new country. This is the short-term decision. As for any long-term strategy of FYROM (slavic part), everybody knows that FYROM is lost in space especially the last fiasco in Bucharest, which shows that FYROM do not have any future strategy and any diplomacy. The dramatic mistakes made by FYROM government in the last years especially manipulating the Albanian factor will be paid very hard after the elections. Instead of creating and working hard on important alliances, FYROM desoriented the country. For that you can not blame the Albanians.

This will haunt you FYROM, just as it did to Serbia.

# Actually those hectares of land were agreed to be part of Macedonia in 2001, when Slobba had been deposed. Milosevic had nothing to do wth this decision.
(hrb, 2 May 2008 18:18)

Don't try to lecture me on a matter which you have no knowledge of. I was in Macedonia applying for a visa as a Kosovar - Bosnian. The agreement was cleared just before Slobodan Milosevic was sent to the Hague.

Even that was not so, that is Kosova's land and we declare that act null and void. It's not the principle about land but there are villiges of Kosovars that want to be Kosovars not part of Republic of Macedonia.


BT,

I will respond to you in a civilized manner. I can tell you are ill-informed on Kosova. The main export is metal, not prostitution, not drugs. Only in Serbia there are things such as mafias for tobacco and heroine. Search B92 for "tobacco mafia" you will find plenty of news coverage.

As Pejoni has said it, this decision will haunt you Macedonia, FYROM, or Republic of Macedonia (Skopje); whatever you wish to call yourself.

ahhhhhh shut up , zipp it , go earn a place in UN first then come back and post comments here.

What the hell is wrong with you Albanians. You always act like you're the victim and as soon as things don't go your way, you pull out the guns. What world do you live in? You are a nation who's main export is drugs and violence. You try to get everything you want by using force. THIS IS NOT THE MIDDLE AGES. Even then, they had some civilized people.

False Kosovo entity emerged from a shadow and it will remain in a shadow.
The more lies and threats addressed to non-albanians from the Albanian population the longer it will take for the world to accept them.

To KS:
I am in no way misinformed. The main exports that I mentioned (drugs, you mentioned prostitution (nice of you to add it in there) and violence) are illegal and as such cannot be listed as imports or exports, but they are nonetheless how where your income comes from.

"As Pejoni has said it, this decision will haunt you Macedonia, FYROM, or Republic of Macedonia (Skopje); whatever you wish to call yourself." You just prove my point. You don't get it your way and almost immediately you use threats and violence to get what you want. It's in your nature. It's what you know. Don't deny it and try to pretend you are democratic in any way. Your way of life opposes the very nature of democracy.

'What the hell is wrong with you Albanians. You always act like you're the victim and as soon as things don't go your way, you pull out the guns. What world do you live in? You are a nation who's main export is drugs and violence. You try to get everything you want by using force. THIS IS NOT THE MIDDLE AGES. Even then, they had some civilized people.'
(BT, 2 May 2008 18:00)
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so -- here is my question to b92 (for the hundredth or so time) -- why are we subjected to such hate language, esp. against albanians? is it ok to bash albanians? is it good to bash albanians? now that you have "lost" your supposedly beloved kosovo/a, is it now ok and appropriate to bash albanians? is hate speech "in" here? is that what your teachers have taught you? is that what open journalism is all about? is that your idea of free speech?? your way to ensure respect for human rights??

how can you expect ANYbody with the sense that god gave them to take you the least bit seriously when day after day, week after week, you print, you foster hate speech?? who is in charge there??

again, J'accuse!!

roberto from frisco

With Serbia attending, why should it's provice of Kosovo be invited?

The right message has been sent to this pretend entity. It only exists in the make believe world with Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.

The overwhelming majority of the world is simply not interested. Macedonia does not recognise it's existance and never will as they have experienced first hand the attempts to grab land.

Mark (Shqype) & ahmed:

Try reading the article again.

It says:
> Macedonian President Branko Crvenkoviski explained that all 18 members of the Central European Initiative had to agree in order for such an invitation to be sent.

Pseudo-state cannot get invitation if Serbia denies permission.

So if it walks like a duck.. quacks like a duck.. then it must be.. a duck :)

Actually those hectares of land were agreed to be part of Macedonia in 2001, when Slobba had been deposed. Milosevic had nothing to do wth this decision.

Comme on guy's we all know government of FYROM is a puppy of serbia but who is so care they will recognize or not but one i think when albania will be a full Nato member who ? you think a another member except Greece it will use VETO against FYROM... GUESS who ALBANIA so that's the way politics work's....

Hey Roberto,

All that coming from a person in Texas? The stereotype that considers everything below his border "Mexican". Don't come here and preach about hate speech. If you happen to live in an alternate world of your own and seem offended regarding a certain REALITY then by all means keep living in your alternate world and keep your thoughts to yourself. Don't speak out ignorantly regarding things you don't fully comprehend because FOX NEWS happens to distort what they want to tell you.

You speak of hate speech and freedom of speech (democratic principles) and yet your own country is spying on this very conversation you are having. Talk about freedom huh?

I have a "dare" for you. Learn Serbian or Macedonian and move to Kosovo or North-West Macedonia for a month. Identify yourself as such and see what happens. THEN, have the nerve to say what you said.

For the record, I am not Serbian as you had assumed. I am from Denmark, a country which the Albanians seemed to have successfully ruined along with Sweden.

It's easy