Hungarian Coalition seeks influence in majority areas

It is a testament to Serb tolerance that the ethnic Joes who allied themselves with the Nazis were allowed to remain on Serb soil.Any person in the West who does not know that Serbia is the most tolerant ethnically diverse country in the Balkans is obviously not well informed.All groups have their angels and demons but the majority of the Serb people can hold their heads up proudly for their contribution to the fight against fascism and intolerance which swept Europe many times in its history.Shalom

Joe

"Despite your standard "shalom" all your messages - when it comes to Hungarians - reflect intolerance and I suspect hatred."

You must be joking! You accusing someone of intolerance and hatred? The day you actually come on here and show tolerance towards anyone non-Slavic, you can make such ridiculous claims.

"Again and again you mass condemn an entire ethnic group, who payed dearly in 1944 following the massacre of 35,000 of its innocent members for the crimes of some officers of the Hungarian Army."

It sounds like you are saying that the massacres of Serbs and Jews in Novi Sad by Hungarian police was justified by the massacres committed earlier by the Serbs. It's actually surprising that you actually admit that some Hungarians could do anything wrong! Maybe there is still some hope for you, you must learn not to measure human tragedy like you do, because it shows that you think a Hungarian life is worth more than a Slavic/Serbian one.

"Whatever you write against Hungarians seem to go through. Whenever I try to respond I get censured."

Because you do not add anything constructive to the arguments here at B92. The only thing that you do here is melodramatic sympathy for those poor Albanians of Kosovo, or spit venom at the Serbs for everything, from the Yugoslav Wars, to World War Two, to being a country that the West hates, to being a country that has achieved nothing etc., and until you actually start presenting some constructive arguments and dumping your anti-Serbian frustrations here, B92 should feel free to censor you whenever they see fit too.

How would you feel if Serbs come onto a Hungarian site and forever accuse you of being Nazis and Nazi collaborators and that country who allowed the Nazis to send 400 000 of its jews to Polish death and all that. Get over yourself!

I guess I am wasting my time writing this up because you won't even respond to it, so do whatever you want, just don't be surprised that you get censored all the time.

One need only read the writings of Elie Wiesel or even George Soros for that matter in order to understand which ethnic groups in Europe had more demons than angels during the dark hours when fascism was able to rear its ugly head to do battle with the forces of light.No Jew needs to ever be told this simple truth and the fact that present day certain Joes wanna rewrite history or even repeat history does not bode well for peace on the European homeland.NEVER FORGET AND NEVER AGAIN!!!I thank my Serb friends for their contribution to the memory of all those who perished at the hands of monsters.Shalom

People who have no eloquence to argue their points with the pen out of frustration and ignorance turn to the sword.People of all faiths who embrace shalom/salam/peace are to be admired but those who promote hatred of any other group are to be denounced in the strongest terms possible.I have always advocated peace and a just compromise and make no mistake about the fact that I think Albanian and Hungarian people are extremely beautiful(particularly the women so do not make any false assumptions about my sexual preferences)but the truth is the truth no matter how many people have short memories.An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and the fact that the spilling of blood by one side begets the spilling of blood by the other lead us only to ongoing conflict.Julio Iglesias is awesome!Ask the 3k women he hass romanced according to his own testimony.

Joe

"No, I am not this compomising type. Even if it is so unconfortable for you I will never stop to speak out in the interest of truth and human rights. If you would have any sense of justice and not some clubish narrow interests you would understand it."

Funny then that you never seem to have anything bad to say about the actions of the Albanians after the 1999 war, or the 2004 pogroms. If you are such an objective type, you would mention these too, but no, it's only Slavic actions that seem to matter to you. You seem to blame Poland more for expelling the Germans after WWII than for what they did to us during the war, otherwise you wouldn't keep on about it. You first step should be recognizing the Hungarian atrocities against Serbs and Jews during the war, or even the fact that they allowed 400 000 of them to be sent to Poland to be gassed, but I guess it's just easier to blame Serbs, Poles and Russians for everything bad that this world has seen.

Ida,although some of your postings bring tears to my eyes I salute you for embodying the true spirit of your people and urge you to keep on standing up for the truth and not allow those who wish to sweep under the rug their inhuman crimes against humanity that was done to our respective peoples in the name of hatred.It seems that our battle against the sons and grandsons of the monsters which reared their ugly heads in the past is ongoing but never again should we bow to their will and we will never forget that truth and justice will eventually prevail no matter how long the battle in the end the righteous will win the war.Shalom and zivila Serbia.

"Some 550,000 Hungarian Jews and 50,000 Gypsies were killed during the Holocaust."

http://calibre.mworld.com/m/m.w?lp=GetStory&id=289621001

luciano,

Despite your standard "shalom" all your messages - when it comes to Hungarians - reflect intolerance and I suspect hatred. In several of your messages you suggested some subtle form of ethnic cleansing of the Hungarians of Vojvodina. Again and again you mass condemn an entire ethnic group, who payed dearly in 1944 following the massacre of 35,000 of its innocent members for the crimes of some officers of the Hungarian Army.
Whatever you write against Hungarians seem to go through. Whenever I try to respond I get censured. I hope very much that B92 will be fair enough and will not censure this message.

There are two curses of the Central/East Europe.

1) To the question: "Do you want a good tool or a good gun?" the answer is mostly "gun".
2) To the question: "If your cow dies, what you wish to happen?" the answer is mostly "I wish, all cows of all my neighbors die, too".

The day we would overcome 1) + 2) will be the day America, Germany, UK, Japan would begin to fear our competition. Until that happens, Tesla, Neumann, etc. will be just a unique case... reaching their full potential outside of the area anyway.

What happened with your wife, Joe? For us, we (5 people) can't afford anymore to fly every Summer - in 15 years we spent a mortgage on the tickets alone. I could not find even comparable job what I am doing in the States in Hungary - zero chance. But thanks to "inat" mentality and that my mother-tongue is not Hungarian but R. I did find a job similar to what I am doing in the States in BG much easier than in BP. It's a pretty special case tough but shows, sometimes surprise is possible.

I wouldn’t worry too much of someone who still listens Julio Iglesias, Joe. Our Jewish commentator is big on sweeping generalisation and very economical with the truth.
Salam

If Serbs, Hungarians, Jews and Russians argue I begin to pull my hear out one-by-one.

Please stop it guys. Thanks.

Peter,

You are right. You probably don't deserve any answer after your emotional rumbling. You raise however so munch untruth that in the service of justice and truth I am compeled to respond.
First of all for some strange reason you reverse the chain of events - first was Novi Sad than the 1944 massacre by the partisans.
But your best shot is "the constructive argument". With that you really outdid yourself. If I had not criticized any Serbian action like the terrible events in Kosovo or any Polish actions after WWII than I would be the "dear Joe", the "friend", who belongs to the club of the "just", who never did anything wrong. No, I am not this compomising type. Even if it is so unconfortable for you I will never stop to speak out in the interest of truth and human rights. If you would have any sense of justice and not some clubish narrow interests you would understand it.

"Our Jewish commentator is big on sweeping generalisation and very economical with the truth".
willage-bey

Well recognized willage-bey.
Just to add that whenever there is any news about Hungarians this commentator would never miss the occasion to display his venom and hatred. My gut feeling is that he lost some relatives during WWII and make all Germans and Hungarians - past, current and future generations - responsible for it. I call it a "closed mind" behind a virtual brick wall.

Yeah Wake up Hungarians
Long Live Hungarians Croats Slovens Albanians EU USA UK Turkey Iran Japan Australians Dalmatians

Ataman,

I am not sure if you will read this tonight..so I will make it short. Yes the airline tickets got very expensive. Since summer is much to hot in Hungary we generally like to go in September..the tickets are also chipper. Your mother-tongue is R...is it Rumanian or Russian? I guess you also speak Hungarian.
Thanks for asking about my wife. She went through a treatement. She is OK and in good spirits.

RU, not RO. Hence my quasi-Serbian, with accent most people in BG fall down laughing. Tito had a similar accent - he spent all his youth there. In Hungarian I have no accent - you won't notice anything except a rare tárgyas-tárgyatlan mixup and I can't pronounce "i" after "c", only "yery" sound. Of course my wife often teases me to say "cirmos cica cimborája". That sounds "cürmos cüca cümborája" or somewhat like that, "ü" is not the "yery" but somewhat close. Few people know, Hungarian had the "yery" sound like Turkish, Bulgarian or Russian - it just transformed into "í". So 700 or so years ago "bow" did sound rather as "üj" not "íj". In Turkish "yery" is marked like "i" without the dot, in Bulgarian pratty unique way, in Russian there is a special letter. Interestingly, there is none in Serbian - I am sure, it was a while ago.

luciano,

Despite your standard "shalom" all your messages - when it comes to Hungarians - reflect intolerance and I suspect hatred. In several of your messages you suggested some subtle form of ethnic cleansing of the Hungarians of Vojvodina. Again and again you mass condemn an entire ethnic group, who payed dearly in 1944 following the massacre of 35,000 of its innocent members for the crimes of some officers of the Hungarian Army.
Whatever you write against Hungarians seem to go through. Whenever I try to respond I get censured. I hope very much that B92 will be fair enough and will not censure this message.

I wouldn’t worry too much of someone who still listens Julio Iglesias, Joe. Our Jewish commentator is big on sweeping generalisation and very economical with the truth.
Salam

Joe

"Despite your standard "shalom" all your messages - when it comes to Hungarians - reflect intolerance and I suspect hatred."

You must be joking! You accusing someone of intolerance and hatred? The day you actually come on here and show tolerance towards anyone non-Slavic, you can make such ridiculous claims.

"Again and again you mass condemn an entire ethnic group, who payed dearly in 1944 following the massacre of 35,000 of its innocent members for the crimes of some officers of the Hungarian Army."

It sounds like you are saying that the massacres of Serbs and Jews in Novi Sad by Hungarian police was justified by the massacres committed earlier by the Serbs. It's actually surprising that you actually admit that some Hungarians could do anything wrong! Maybe there is still some hope for you, you must learn not to measure human tragedy like you do, because it shows that you think a Hungarian life is worth more than a Slavic/Serbian one.

"Whatever you write against Hungarians seem to go through. Whenever I try to respond I get censured."

Because you do not add anything constructive to the arguments here at B92. The only thing that you do here is melodramatic sympathy for those poor Albanians of Kosovo, or spit venom at the Serbs for everything, from the Yugoslav Wars, to World War Two, to being a country that the West hates, to being a country that has achieved nothing etc., and until you actually start presenting some constructive arguments and dumping your anti-Serbian frustrations here, B92 should feel free to censor you whenever they see fit too.

How would you feel if Serbs come onto a Hungarian site and forever accuse you of being Nazis and Nazi collaborators and that country who allowed the Nazis to send 400 000 of its jews to Polish death and all that. Get over yourself!

I guess I am wasting my time writing this up because you won't even respond to it, so do whatever you want, just don't be surprised that you get censored all the time.

People who have no eloquence to argue their points with the pen out of frustration and ignorance turn to the sword.People of all faiths who embrace shalom/salam/peace are to be admired but those who promote hatred of any other group are to be denounced in the strongest terms possible.I have always advocated peace and a just compromise and make no mistake about the fact that I think Albanian and Hungarian people are extremely beautiful(particularly the women so do not make any false assumptions about my sexual preferences)but the truth is the truth no matter how many people have short memories.An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and the fact that the spilling of blood by one side begets the spilling of blood by the other lead us only to ongoing conflict.Julio Iglesias is awesome!Ask the 3k women he hass romanced according to his own testimony.

"Our Jewish commentator is big on sweeping generalisation and very economical with the truth".
willage-bey

Well recognized willage-bey.
Just to add that whenever there is any news about Hungarians this commentator would never miss the occasion to display his venom and hatred. My gut feeling is that he lost some relatives during WWII and make all Germans and Hungarians - past, current and future generations - responsible for it. I call it a "closed mind" behind a virtual brick wall.

It is a testament to Serb tolerance that the ethnic Joes who allied themselves with the Nazis were allowed to remain on Serb soil.Any person in the West who does not know that Serbia is the most tolerant ethnically diverse country in the Balkans is obviously not well informed.All groups have their angels and demons but the majority of the Serb people can hold their heads up proudly for their contribution to the fight against fascism and intolerance which swept Europe many times in its history.Shalom

One need only read the writings of Elie Wiesel or even George Soros for that matter in order to understand which ethnic groups in Europe had more demons than angels during the dark hours when fascism was able to rear its ugly head to do battle with the forces of light.No Jew needs to ever be told this simple truth and the fact that present day certain Joes wanna rewrite history or even repeat history does not bode well for peace on the European homeland.NEVER FORGET AND NEVER AGAIN!!!I thank my Serb friends for their contribution to the memory of all those who perished at the hands of monsters.Shalom

Yeah Wake up Hungarians
Long Live Hungarians Croats Slovens Albanians EU USA UK Turkey Iran Japan Australians Dalmatians

"Some 550,000 Hungarian Jews and 50,000 Gypsies were killed during the Holocaust."

http://calibre.mworld.com/m/m.w?lp=GetStory&id=289621001

If Serbs, Hungarians, Jews and Russians argue I begin to pull my hear out one-by-one.

Please stop it guys. Thanks.

Ida,although some of your postings bring tears to my eyes I salute you for embodying the true spirit of your people and urge you to keep on standing up for the truth and not allow those who wish to sweep under the rug their inhuman crimes against humanity that was done to our respective peoples in the name of hatred.It seems that our battle against the sons and grandsons of the monsters which reared their ugly heads in the past is ongoing but never again should we bow to their will and we will never forget that truth and justice will eventually prevail no matter how long the battle in the end the righteous will win the war.Shalom and zivila Serbia.

Peter,

You are right. You probably don't deserve any answer after your emotional rumbling. You raise however so munch untruth that in the service of justice and truth I am compeled to respond.
First of all for some strange reason you reverse the chain of events - first was Novi Sad than the 1944 massacre by the partisans.
But your best shot is "the constructive argument". With that you really outdid yourself. If I had not criticized any Serbian action like the terrible events in Kosovo or any Polish actions after WWII than I would be the "dear Joe", the "friend", who belongs to the club of the "just", who never did anything wrong. No, I am not this compomising type. Even if it is so unconfortable for you I will never stop to speak out in the interest of truth and human rights. If you would have any sense of justice and not some clubish narrow interests you would understand it.

Joe

"No, I am not this compomising type. Even if it is so unconfortable for you I will never stop to speak out in the interest of truth and human rights. If you would have any sense of justice and not some clubish narrow interests you would understand it."

Funny then that you never seem to have anything bad to say about the actions of the Albanians after the 1999 war, or the 2004 pogroms. If you are such an objective type, you would mention these too, but no, it's only Slavic actions that seem to matter to you. You seem to blame Poland more for expelling the Germans after WWII than for what they did to us during the war, otherwise you wouldn't keep on about it. You first step should be recognizing the Hungarian atrocities against Serbs and Jews during the war, or even the fact that they allowed 400 000 of them to be sent to Poland to be gassed, but I guess it's just easier to blame Serbs, Poles and Russians for everything bad that this world has seen.

There are two curses of the Central/East Europe.

1) To the question: "Do you want a good tool or a good gun?" the answer is mostly "gun".
2) To the question: "If your cow dies, what you wish to happen?" the answer is mostly "I wish, all cows of all my neighbors die, too".

The day we would overcome 1) + 2) will be the day America, Germany, UK, Japan would begin to fear our competition. Until that happens, Tesla, Neumann, etc. will be just a unique case... reaching their full potential outside of the area anyway.

What happened with your wife, Joe? For us, we (5 people) can't afford anymore to fly every Summer - in 15 years we spent a mortgage on the tickets alone. I could not find even comparable job what I am doing in the States in Hungary - zero chance. But thanks to "inat" mentality and that my mother-tongue is not Hungarian but R. I did find a job similar to what I am doing in the States in BG much easier than in BP. It's a pretty special case tough but shows, sometimes surprise is possible.

Ataman,

I am not sure if you will read this tonight..so I will make it short. Yes the airline tickets got very expensive. Since summer is much to hot in Hungary we generally like to go in September..the tickets are also chipper. Your mother-tongue is R...is it Rumanian or Russian? I guess you also speak Hungarian.
Thanks for asking about my wife. She went through a treatement. She is OK and in good spirits.

RU, not RO. Hence my quasi-Serbian, with accent most people in BG fall down laughing. Tito had a similar accent - he spent all his youth there. In Hungarian I have no accent - you won't notice anything except a rare tárgyas-tárgyatlan mixup and I can't pronounce "i" after "c", only "yery" sound. Of course my wife often teases me to say "cirmos cica cimborája". That sounds "cürmos cüca cümborája" or somewhat like that, "ü" is not the "yery" but somewhat close. Few people know, Hungarian had the "yery" sound like Turkish, Bulgarian or Russian - it just transformed into "í". So 700 or so years ago "bow" did sound rather as "üj" not "íj". In Turkish "yery" is marked like "i" without the dot, in Bulgarian pratty unique way, in Russian there is a special letter. Interestingly, there is none in Serbian - I am sure, it was a while ago.