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Thursday, 24.04.2008.

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Dutch parliament to discuss SAA Thursday

The Dutch parliament’s foreign policy committee will today decide if it is possible for that country to change its position on signing the SAA with Serbia.

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miri

pre 16 godina

When is Europe going to stop listening to every whimp and whining of Serbia. When is Europe going to start treating Serbia for what it is; a spoiled child.
WOOOOO, the nationalists are in the rise in Serbia!!
Isn't this the history of Serbia itself?

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

Mircea

"Peter Sudyka, you asked me why it is important for a country to join the EU. Well, in the first place, a country that joins the EU benefits from the EU structural funds and the cohesion fund which help an EU member state to develop from an economic point of view. Countries such as Greece, Portugal and Spain have developed due to these EU funds. A country that is in the EU also attracts more foreign direct investment. EU membership offers a guarantee that a country is stable from a political and economic point of view."

Something that Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the United States didn't need in order to become prosperous countries. This shows that a country can become prosperous without being an EU member state.

"Another benefit of joining the EU is that the citizens of the EU member state can travel without restrictions within the EU."

This tends to backfire in the case of Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Hungary, Latvia and Slovakia where the youth use this to get out of their countries to go work elsewhere, hence causing a brain drain and a strain on the country's labor force.

I am just saying that the EU can benefit a country that becomes a member of it, but I do not think it's obligatory for any country to join the EU, it just means that the poorer countries will be investment playgrounds for the richer countries (our competition will have no chance on business terms), while the richer countries will be full of immigrants from the poorer countries, affecting both negatively (East loses skilled labor and forces them to take immigrants from India, China, Africa etc, West takes them for less money, causing more unemployment back home and more hatred for Easterners).

Also the large amount of money sent home and the sudden rise in purchasing of properties, consumer goods etc. will cause massive price increases, which the local population struggles to keep up with. You know what I am talking about, I am sure it's even worse in Romania than here in Poland. Our wages have only just started to go up again for the first time since prices skyrocketed.

To conclude, the EU has big pluses, but also big minuses, and Serbia should consider them both carefully.

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

Mircea, Serbia can negotiate visa free travel with the EU without being a member. Also, investments normally come with strings attached so I don't see any real benefit there. None of that is worth signing Kosovo away, that is for sure.

The countries you listed, and Ireland included, were in the first group of EU members that did benefit economically but that is far from guaranteed with the new lot. What I have seen is a brain drain where qualified people from Eastern Europe have come over here to the UK to clean my house and do the dirty work for others. They provide cheap labour.

Serbia's growth at the moment exceeds all EU members bar 3 so what is the benefit?

Mircea

pre 16 godina

Peter Sudyka, you asked me why it is important for a country to join the EU. Well, in the first place, a country that joins the EU benefits from the EU structural funds and the cohesion fund which help an EU member state to develop from an economic point of view. Countries such as Greece, Portugal and Spain have developed due to these EU funds. A country that is in the EU also attracts more foreign direct investment. EU membership offers a guarantee that a country is stable from a political and economic point of view. My country, Romania, has benefited from an increase in foreign direct investment since becoming a member of the EU in 2007. Another benefit of joining the EU is that the citizens of the EU member state can travel without restrictions within the EU.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

Please do change your mind Holland this will just add ever further evidence of the "political" external interference in Serbian elections and we all know the reality of what is on offer - sign here for loss of your soverign territorial integrity while we send in our INLEX (Lawless) mission!

That said dont change your minds and stick with the duplicitious nature of accepting Montenegro and signing up BiH in the next couple of weeks - both countries who might be just as probable hiding places for Karadzic and Mladic but are not denied SAA and again the Serbian electorate will understand your deceit and double standards!

You could say the (double) Dutch are damned if they do and damned if they dont!

Ah but then oh what a tangled web we weave...

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

Please do change your mind Holland this will just add ever further evidence of the "political" external interference in Serbian elections and we all know the reality of what is on offer - sign here for loss of your soverign territorial integrity while we send in our INLEX (Lawless) mission!

That said dont change your minds and stick with the duplicitious nature of accepting Montenegro and signing up BiH in the next couple of weeks - both countries who might be just as probable hiding places for Karadzic and Mladic but are not denied SAA and again the Serbian electorate will understand your deceit and double standards!

You could say the (double) Dutch are damned if they do and damned if they dont!

Ah but then oh what a tangled web we weave...

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

Mircea, Serbia can negotiate visa free travel with the EU without being a member. Also, investments normally come with strings attached so I don't see any real benefit there. None of that is worth signing Kosovo away, that is for sure.

The countries you listed, and Ireland included, were in the first group of EU members that did benefit economically but that is far from guaranteed with the new lot. What I have seen is a brain drain where qualified people from Eastern Europe have come over here to the UK to clean my house and do the dirty work for others. They provide cheap labour.

Serbia's growth at the moment exceeds all EU members bar 3 so what is the benefit?

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

Mircea

"Peter Sudyka, you asked me why it is important for a country to join the EU. Well, in the first place, a country that joins the EU benefits from the EU structural funds and the cohesion fund which help an EU member state to develop from an economic point of view. Countries such as Greece, Portugal and Spain have developed due to these EU funds. A country that is in the EU also attracts more foreign direct investment. EU membership offers a guarantee that a country is stable from a political and economic point of view."

Something that Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the United States didn't need in order to become prosperous countries. This shows that a country can become prosperous without being an EU member state.

"Another benefit of joining the EU is that the citizens of the EU member state can travel without restrictions within the EU."

This tends to backfire in the case of Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Hungary, Latvia and Slovakia where the youth use this to get out of their countries to go work elsewhere, hence causing a brain drain and a strain on the country's labor force.

I am just saying that the EU can benefit a country that becomes a member of it, but I do not think it's obligatory for any country to join the EU, it just means that the poorer countries will be investment playgrounds for the richer countries (our competition will have no chance on business terms), while the richer countries will be full of immigrants from the poorer countries, affecting both negatively (East loses skilled labor and forces them to take immigrants from India, China, Africa etc, West takes them for less money, causing more unemployment back home and more hatred for Easterners).

Also the large amount of money sent home and the sudden rise in purchasing of properties, consumer goods etc. will cause massive price increases, which the local population struggles to keep up with. You know what I am talking about, I am sure it's even worse in Romania than here in Poland. Our wages have only just started to go up again for the first time since prices skyrocketed.

To conclude, the EU has big pluses, but also big minuses, and Serbia should consider them both carefully.

miri

pre 16 godina

When is Europe going to stop listening to every whimp and whining of Serbia. When is Europe going to start treating Serbia for what it is; a spoiled child.
WOOOOO, the nationalists are in the rise in Serbia!!
Isn't this the history of Serbia itself?

Mircea

pre 16 godina

Peter Sudyka, you asked me why it is important for a country to join the EU. Well, in the first place, a country that joins the EU benefits from the EU structural funds and the cohesion fund which help an EU member state to develop from an economic point of view. Countries such as Greece, Portugal and Spain have developed due to these EU funds. A country that is in the EU also attracts more foreign direct investment. EU membership offers a guarantee that a country is stable from a political and economic point of view. My country, Romania, has benefited from an increase in foreign direct investment since becoming a member of the EU in 2007. Another benefit of joining the EU is that the citizens of the EU member state can travel without restrictions within the EU.

miri

pre 16 godina

When is Europe going to stop listening to every whimp and whining of Serbia. When is Europe going to start treating Serbia for what it is; a spoiled child.
WOOOOO, the nationalists are in the rise in Serbia!!
Isn't this the history of Serbia itself?

Mircea

pre 16 godina

Peter Sudyka, you asked me why it is important for a country to join the EU. Well, in the first place, a country that joins the EU benefits from the EU structural funds and the cohesion fund which help an EU member state to develop from an economic point of view. Countries such as Greece, Portugal and Spain have developed due to these EU funds. A country that is in the EU also attracts more foreign direct investment. EU membership offers a guarantee that a country is stable from a political and economic point of view. My country, Romania, has benefited from an increase in foreign direct investment since becoming a member of the EU in 2007. Another benefit of joining the EU is that the citizens of the EU member state can travel without restrictions within the EU.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

Please do change your mind Holland this will just add ever further evidence of the "political" external interference in Serbian elections and we all know the reality of what is on offer - sign here for loss of your soverign territorial integrity while we send in our INLEX (Lawless) mission!

That said dont change your minds and stick with the duplicitious nature of accepting Montenegro and signing up BiH in the next couple of weeks - both countries who might be just as probable hiding places for Karadzic and Mladic but are not denied SAA and again the Serbian electorate will understand your deceit and double standards!

You could say the (double) Dutch are damned if they do and damned if they dont!

Ah but then oh what a tangled web we weave...

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

Mircea, Serbia can negotiate visa free travel with the EU without being a member. Also, investments normally come with strings attached so I don't see any real benefit there. None of that is worth signing Kosovo away, that is for sure.

The countries you listed, and Ireland included, were in the first group of EU members that did benefit economically but that is far from guaranteed with the new lot. What I have seen is a brain drain where qualified people from Eastern Europe have come over here to the UK to clean my house and do the dirty work for others. They provide cheap labour.

Serbia's growth at the moment exceeds all EU members bar 3 so what is the benefit?

Peter Sudyka

pre 16 godina

Mircea

"Peter Sudyka, you asked me why it is important for a country to join the EU. Well, in the first place, a country that joins the EU benefits from the EU structural funds and the cohesion fund which help an EU member state to develop from an economic point of view. Countries such as Greece, Portugal and Spain have developed due to these EU funds. A country that is in the EU also attracts more foreign direct investment. EU membership offers a guarantee that a country is stable from a political and economic point of view."

Something that Norway, Switzerland, Iceland, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the United States didn't need in order to become prosperous countries. This shows that a country can become prosperous without being an EU member state.

"Another benefit of joining the EU is that the citizens of the EU member state can travel without restrictions within the EU."

This tends to backfire in the case of Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Hungary, Latvia and Slovakia where the youth use this to get out of their countries to go work elsewhere, hence causing a brain drain and a strain on the country's labor force.

I am just saying that the EU can benefit a country that becomes a member of it, but I do not think it's obligatory for any country to join the EU, it just means that the poorer countries will be investment playgrounds for the richer countries (our competition will have no chance on business terms), while the richer countries will be full of immigrants from the poorer countries, affecting both negatively (East loses skilled labor and forces them to take immigrants from India, China, Africa etc, West takes them for less money, causing more unemployment back home and more hatred for Easterners).

Also the large amount of money sent home and the sudden rise in purchasing of properties, consumer goods etc. will cause massive price increases, which the local population struggles to keep up with. You know what I am talking about, I am sure it's even worse in Romania than here in Poland. Our wages have only just started to go up again for the first time since prices skyrocketed.

To conclude, the EU has big pluses, but also big minuses, and Serbia should consider them both carefully.