Tadić urges resumption of negotiations

There is no need for the 35 (4 really, the rest are just bottom feeders who mindlessly follow US everywhere) to reconsider anything. Their support did not make KosovO independent. They offered their opinion and were voted down by the rest of the world. A huge political blunder for US adding yet another black mark to it's infantile foreign policy. For 35, stepping aside and dropping their vocal support to the fake independence is the best way to go in today's worlds political climate, and that is exactly how they are doing it. KosovO is not independent, and even the 35 (4) countries have quietly admitted that. Hashim knows it too, it became crystal clear to him while visiting the UN...as a private citizen.

Ahmed,

Now that Kosovo is independent for 2 months and recognized by most of the western countries who count I enjoy with great amusement related statements from Tadic and other Serbian politicians. They remind me of some of those few Japanese soldiers, who were hiding in the rain forests for 20 - 30 years after the end of WWII and -once discovered - thought that the war is still going on. Maybe some Serbs will also need 20-30 years to meet reality, the fact that they lost Kosovo for good.

Joe
If believing in fairy tales helps you make it through the day, so be it, more power to you. I see you adopted the name of your masters, but more importantly, one can tell that you are abroad. Than you know that KosovO is not mentioned, anywhere, by anybody. Even the pitiful 35 who would go nuts rejoicing their success are quiet, because it's not a success. It is a miserable failure. Not even "mighty" US can make things happen when 82.5% of the world says Njet, unless they use bombs which in this case will never happen. Without the use bombs the "Newborn" is DOA, tossed out with a bathwater.

"reconsider their decision"
This is got to be the biggest joke of teh century.

DJKristic,

You guessed it right. As a US citizen without Albanian connections I live in the mighty US. As most people know me on this site I am a long time supporter of the K-Albanians, who suffered so much.
As for the fairy tales times will show that you and many of your contrymen still seem to believe in them. Those countries which did not recognize Kosovo yet will not be able to "give it back to you ever". They don't have the power.

Mr. Tadic
you just have to get used to independent Kosova. You need to understand that nations have a right to self determination. It has been hapening for a long time and it is not going to stop only because Serbia wants it to stop. Remember, if United States waited for the British to allow them to declare independence they would of still been a colony and not a prosperous state.

I think it is more plausable to judge one's readiness to be an independent state on the bases of their actions toward others than on the basis of history based on a myth.

The day is coming when Serbia is going to recognize Kosova. Remember the threats from serbia about the blockade of foods sold to Kosova. Remember threats of cutting electricity. Remember threats of starting a war. As we know none of these came true. And, also just please remember that in no way will Serbia keep paying salaries to Mitrovica serbs because it costs them well over 300 milon euros a year. And remember the old serbian say that "Svaka cuda, tri dana."

"Maybe some Serbs will also need 20-30 years to meet reality, the fact that they lost Kosovo for good."
(Joe, 22 April 2008 15:28)

I don't think they lost Kosovo. Kosovo is not an object that can be lost and found and owned. They lost their grip on the Albanian population there 9 years ago, and in February 17th they lost that grip forever. Kosovo is still there for the Serbs,the constitution of Kosovo guarantees that. The Serbs just have to accept the fact that the majority is Albanian and its will can't be ignored.

"Those countries which did not recognize Kosovo yet will not be able to "give it back to you ever". They don't have the power."

Joe,

you just reassured us that behind that mighty US stands only, as you said, power but nothing else.
I'll add: stands for a short while only.

What a great argument of you. It tells me how much you are acquainted with the history of a far land whose mythology you are inventing for your own deluded daydream purposes.
Carry on for a while again.

very embarrassing to watch his election speech at the un. i think half of it was about saa :)) pathetic

no Ahmet, the
biggest joke of the century is 'Democratic Kosovo State'.

rain,

I find your comment very amusing. Until February most of your countrymen made jokes about the weakness of the US and glorified Russia as the allpowerful country, who would never allow the declaration of independence of Kosovo. Well what could Russia do? Absolutely nothing. Russia appeared powerless and humiliated. That is what I ment by not having the power to prevent it and now to reverse it. And I am very glad about it.
And that mighty power of the US that you resent so much is used frequently in the service of justice and the defence of human rights. Power in service of just causes, that makes America so great and unique.

NATO should never have engaged in conquest. The aim was to remove Milosevic and that kind of politics, but instead NATO have over-stepped the mark and infringed a fundamental territorial right of Serbia.

I hope that Serbia will reoccupy its land - despite any restrictions imposed by the international community. Serbia still has the fundamental ownership and if the UN continue not to defend that, then Serbia has the right to act.

It would be wiser of countries to recommend that negotiations restart to establish cooperative autonomy - it was a mistake to support this UDI claim. Maybe countries will not change their minds without cause, but several must be feeling that they have not done the wisest thing.

Serbia is being tied in string by all the signings - but territorial integrity is a fundamental that has precedence over any other issues - including humanitarian. A country has a right to defend its territory and to call it its own. It is unacceptable for ethnic spill-over from adjacent territories to start changing borders under any circumstances other than complete agreement between the parties.

Kosovo will never be secure in its current form and it is sad that Serbia will be dragged down for a while by this situation.

However, Tadic must try - he is right to ask.

wehat a loser Tadic is. Ramush was accused and went as man to face charges and was found not guilty of abusing a dozen or so people. Those Serbs who are accused of committing genocide--legally defined by the court--are still hiding like little girls. Serbs want a K-Albanian convicted so they can say "everyone did bad things" and hide their stuff.

Tadic's logic is simply not there: Give us back Kosovo because 5% of the population doesn't trust EU / Albanians. Well, what about the 95% of the population you tried to exterminate just 10 years ago? Do they trust you? Arkan, Mladic and Karazdic are still heroes to many Serbs, despite the attempts to hide it from the world with nice speeches.

As expected, the Serbian government and President Tadic are trying to turn back the clock.. Its leadership promised to hold on to Kosovo and cannot now deliver.. Serbia, not Kosovo, is the problem in the Balkans - for more check out the link: http://www.usip.org/congress/testimony/2008/0304_serwer.html

Mr. Tadic better should have told the UN SC - why there was never a solution found though years of negotiations. he was involved in these negotiations for all these years and he knew exactly about all the consequences, which were announced all the time - like the UDI. I think, it was right for to declare it - as a mere consequence of an historical developement.

“As a president of Serbia, I claim that my country shall never recognize Kosovo's independence. This is why it is necessary to seek a new, stable solution, which would improve the extremely bad situation that was caused by the unilateral decision of the temporary Kosovo institutions. Serbia continues to be convinced that only with a continuation of negotiations can we reach a mutually acceptable and sustainable solution that will bring lasting peace to all the people in the Balkans. The UN Security Council is the only institution that can reach a legally valid decision,“ he underlined



Typical arrogance of the Serbian Politician, the idea that the Kosovo Albanians should be forced to remain within Serbia against their will. If they had wanted negiations and the limited autonomy Serbia was prepaired to offer they wanted have proclaimed independence.

Would Serbia be seeking negiations, making autonomy offers, etc if it weren't for the EU, UN and NATO?

"reconsider their decision"
This is got to be the biggest joke of teh century.

Ahmed,

Now that Kosovo is independent for 2 months and recognized by most of the western countries who count I enjoy with great amusement related statements from Tadic and other Serbian politicians. They remind me of some of those few Japanese soldiers, who were hiding in the rain forests for 20 - 30 years after the end of WWII and -once discovered - thought that the war is still going on. Maybe some Serbs will also need 20-30 years to meet reality, the fact that they lost Kosovo for good.

DJKristic,

You guessed it right. As a US citizen without Albanian connections I live in the mighty US. As most people know me on this site I am a long time supporter of the K-Albanians, who suffered so much.
As for the fairy tales times will show that you and many of your contrymen still seem to believe in them. Those countries which did not recognize Kosovo yet will not be able to "give it back to you ever". They don't have the power.

"Maybe some Serbs will also need 20-30 years to meet reality, the fact that they lost Kosovo for good."
(Joe, 22 April 2008 15:28)

I don't think they lost Kosovo. Kosovo is not an object that can be lost and found and owned. They lost their grip on the Albanian population there 9 years ago, and in February 17th they lost that grip forever. Kosovo is still there for the Serbs,the constitution of Kosovo guarantees that. The Serbs just have to accept the fact that the majority is Albanian and its will can't be ignored.

Mr. Tadic
you just have to get used to independent Kosova. You need to understand that nations have a right to self determination. It has been hapening for a long time and it is not going to stop only because Serbia wants it to stop. Remember, if United States waited for the British to allow them to declare independence they would of still been a colony and not a prosperous state.

I think it is more plausable to judge one's readiness to be an independent state on the bases of their actions toward others than on the basis of history based on a myth.

The day is coming when Serbia is going to recognize Kosova. Remember the threats from serbia about the blockade of foods sold to Kosova. Remember threats of cutting electricity. Remember threats of starting a war. As we know none of these came true. And, also just please remember that in no way will Serbia keep paying salaries to Mitrovica serbs because it costs them well over 300 milon euros a year. And remember the old serbian say that "Svaka cuda, tri dana."

As expected, the Serbian government and President Tadic are trying to turn back the clock.. Its leadership promised to hold on to Kosovo and cannot now deliver.. Serbia, not Kosovo, is the problem in the Balkans - for more check out the link: http://www.usip.org/congress/testimony/2008/0304_serwer.html

no Ahmet, the
biggest joke of the century is 'Democratic Kosovo State'.

wehat a loser Tadic is. Ramush was accused and went as man to face charges and was found not guilty of abusing a dozen or so people. Those Serbs who are accused of committing genocide--legally defined by the court--are still hiding like little girls. Serbs want a K-Albanian convicted so they can say "everyone did bad things" and hide their stuff.

Tadic's logic is simply not there: Give us back Kosovo because 5% of the population doesn't trust EU / Albanians. Well, what about the 95% of the population you tried to exterminate just 10 years ago? Do they trust you? Arkan, Mladic and Karazdic are still heroes to many Serbs, despite the attempts to hide it from the world with nice speeches.

Joe
If believing in fairy tales helps you make it through the day, so be it, more power to you. I see you adopted the name of your masters, but more importantly, one can tell that you are abroad. Than you know that KosovO is not mentioned, anywhere, by anybody. Even the pitiful 35 who would go nuts rejoicing their success are quiet, because it's not a success. It is a miserable failure. Not even "mighty" US can make things happen when 82.5% of the world says Njet, unless they use bombs which in this case will never happen. Without the use bombs the "Newborn" is DOA, tossed out with a bathwater.

very embarrassing to watch his election speech at the un. i think half of it was about saa :)) pathetic

There is no need for the 35 (4 really, the rest are just bottom feeders who mindlessly follow US everywhere) to reconsider anything. Their support did not make KosovO independent. They offered their opinion and were voted down by the rest of the world. A huge political blunder for US adding yet another black mark to it's infantile foreign policy. For 35, stepping aside and dropping their vocal support to the fake independence is the best way to go in today's worlds political climate, and that is exactly how they are doing it. KosovO is not independent, and even the 35 (4) countries have quietly admitted that. Hashim knows it too, it became crystal clear to him while visiting the UN...as a private citizen.

"Those countries which did not recognize Kosovo yet will not be able to "give it back to you ever". They don't have the power."

Joe,

you just reassured us that behind that mighty US stands only, as you said, power but nothing else.
I'll add: stands for a short while only.

What a great argument of you. It tells me how much you are acquainted with the history of a far land whose mythology you are inventing for your own deluded daydream purposes.
Carry on for a while again.

rain,

I find your comment very amusing. Until February most of your countrymen made jokes about the weakness of the US and glorified Russia as the allpowerful country, who would never allow the declaration of independence of Kosovo. Well what could Russia do? Absolutely nothing. Russia appeared powerless and humiliated. That is what I ment by not having the power to prevent it and now to reverse it. And I am very glad about it.
And that mighty power of the US that you resent so much is used frequently in the service of justice and the defence of human rights. Power in service of just causes, that makes America so great and unique.

Mr. Tadic better should have told the UN SC - why there was never a solution found though years of negotiations. he was involved in these negotiations for all these years and he knew exactly about all the consequences, which were announced all the time - like the UDI. I think, it was right for to declare it - as a mere consequence of an historical developement.

NATO should never have engaged in conquest. The aim was to remove Milosevic and that kind of politics, but instead NATO have over-stepped the mark and infringed a fundamental territorial right of Serbia.

I hope that Serbia will reoccupy its land - despite any restrictions imposed by the international community. Serbia still has the fundamental ownership and if the UN continue not to defend that, then Serbia has the right to act.

It would be wiser of countries to recommend that negotiations restart to establish cooperative autonomy - it was a mistake to support this UDI claim. Maybe countries will not change their minds without cause, but several must be feeling that they have not done the wisest thing.

Serbia is being tied in string by all the signings - but territorial integrity is a fundamental that has precedence over any other issues - including humanitarian. A country has a right to defend its territory and to call it its own. It is unacceptable for ethnic spill-over from adjacent territories to start changing borders under any circumstances other than complete agreement between the parties.

Kosovo will never be secure in its current form and it is sad that Serbia will be dragged down for a while by this situation.

However, Tadic must try - he is right to ask.

“As a president of Serbia, I claim that my country shall never recognize Kosovo's independence. This is why it is necessary to seek a new, stable solution, which would improve the extremely bad situation that was caused by the unilateral decision of the temporary Kosovo institutions. Serbia continues to be convinced that only with a continuation of negotiations can we reach a mutually acceptable and sustainable solution that will bring lasting peace to all the people in the Balkans. The UN Security Council is the only institution that can reach a legally valid decision,“ he underlined



Typical arrogance of the Serbian Politician, the idea that the Kosovo Albanians should be forced to remain within Serbia against their will. If they had wanted negiations and the limited autonomy Serbia was prepaired to offer they wanted have proclaimed independence.

Would Serbia be seeking negiations, making autonomy offers, etc if it weren't for the EU, UN and NATO?