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Sunday, 20.04.2008.

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Signing SAA is binding, says Tadić

The government decision from December 2007 to sign the SAA is legal and binding, Boris Tadić says.

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Dragan

pre 16 godina

I think Willie Garvin summed things up perfectly, and exposed Tadic and the gang for the deceitful liars that they are.
Kostunica knows what the EU is up to, and that is why he is asking for a simple annex confirming that the signature includes ALL of Serbia, including Kosovo. The European masters refuse, and Kostunica has forced them and Tadic to show their true motives. I like Kostunica, as do most Serbs, because he is actually looking after their interests - as the evidence shows.
If the European 'elite' insist on Serbia without Kosovo, well then Serbia is NOT joining the EU, never.
I would like to see Serbia charge a special 'Kosovo Tax' to businesses from countries that recognize this fake, illegal and immoral puppet state.
Cheers!

Bob

pre 16 godina

It is not an either or for Serbia - it is both.

Kosovo needs to be dealt with first - the EU will still be there after.

Serbia has right and law on its side - it will take time however.

I argue that as 1244 is not properly enforced by the international community, then it has lost its right to involvement in the situation - it is then for Serbia to enforce the autonomy described in 1244. If the international community view what has happened as a 'settlement' then defacto they have moved beyond 1244 and it no longer applies - Serbia is freed to act. Serbia on the other hand has every right to insist on the territorial integrity. In my view Serbia should act within the province beyond 1244 as of now (or at the very least state the intention and prepare the legal ground - I think the international press would understand the right of Serbia's situation and make it impossible for action to be directed against democratic Serbia - the days of blaming everything on Milosevic are past).

The mistake of the international community was not to have Serbia's agreement to a solution, so Serbia is legally free to take its territory back at any time in the future. Certainly the EU looks pretty clumsy and incompetent in the current situation.

The UDI is temporary, but the sooner it is reversed, the quicker it can all be properly resolved. I would advocate cooperative negotiation, but this time with the realisation that Kosovo will never be allowed to become or sustain as an independent state. That is what the UN should have insisted on previously.

Serbia should not sign the SAA until well after the election at the earliest when the parliament and others have has a chance to review the whole changed situation.

Serbia is in an untenable position. Unless it specifically votes to let Kosovo go, Serbia will stand humiliated in the world, and will at some time in the future have to act to reverse that.

This election is NOT a referendum on Kosovo, it is part of the uncertain politics of the future. Anyone who treats this as a referendum will be mocking Serbia - like the way the EU did in giving the go ahead for the UDI right after the last elections in Serbia.

Willie Garvin

pre 16 godina

Ahh! Good old president Tadic of the DS being economical with the truth and reality once again.

A week ago, Bozidar Djelic was telling Serbia that the SAA was going to be signed on 17 April. That has now passed, and now you are telling us that it was signed in November last year and that it is legally binding.

But how can that be so when one one party has signed it?

Your man Oliver went to the Netherlands to beg for their cooperation in this matter - and failed.

An now what do you offer us in response - more disinformation ...

Article 135 of the SAA initialled in November does NOT - I repeat, DOES NOT - confirm the status of Kosovo as part of Serbia. It says:
Quote...
The Agreement shall not apply in Kosovo which is at present under international administration pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 of 10 June 1999. This is without prejudice to the current status of Kosovo or the determination of its final status under the same Resolution.
...unquote.

I know English is not your first language, so I will translate this into simpler words for you. It says:

We are asking Belgrade to sign this document - which does not apply to Kosovo - because we intend taking it from you very shortly and asking Pristina to sign a similar SAA too.

What this means, is that Serbia will then be bound, as per the article 15 et al to be in good relations with an independent Pristina if they wish to join the EU.

Mr Tadic. You and the DS are potentially the best way forward for Serbia. Why do you have to lie to the people so much to get re-elected? You are just creating greater problems 2-3 years hence.

The only way into the EU for Serbia is to give up Kosovo. Please have the honesty to tell the people of Serbia the truth: one or the other, not both.

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

This is the reason elections were called in the first place. A referendum on whether to join the EU with or without Kosovo.

So why the rush Tadic? DS party memebers seem to be saying victory is theirs so if that is the case, why not wait until after the elections? Why is the EU so desperate to get a Serbian signature?

It doesn't take a genious to figure out what's going on.

vencor

pre 16 godina

The agreement was initialed before the unilateral declaration by Kosovo, when the EU and the world recognized Serbia as a country which included Kosovo within itself!

If the same status stands in EU's legally, the agreement also stands...

Mr. Tadic, before attempting to teach Serbians, please go back to school and learn a little more...!
After all, there are more than enough Serbian Law students that are brighter and more patriotic than you!

vencor

pre 16 godina

The agreement was initialed before the unilateral declaration by Kosovo, when the EU and the world recognized Serbia as a country which included Kosovo within itself!

If the same status stands in EU's legally, the agreement also stands...

Mr. Tadic, before attempting to teach Serbians, please go back to school and learn a little more...!
After all, there are more than enough Serbian Law students that are brighter and more patriotic than you!

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

This is the reason elections were called in the first place. A referendum on whether to join the EU with or without Kosovo.

So why the rush Tadic? DS party memebers seem to be saying victory is theirs so if that is the case, why not wait until after the elections? Why is the EU so desperate to get a Serbian signature?

It doesn't take a genious to figure out what's going on.

Dragan

pre 16 godina

I think Willie Garvin summed things up perfectly, and exposed Tadic and the gang for the deceitful liars that they are.
Kostunica knows what the EU is up to, and that is why he is asking for a simple annex confirming that the signature includes ALL of Serbia, including Kosovo. The European masters refuse, and Kostunica has forced them and Tadic to show their true motives. I like Kostunica, as do most Serbs, because he is actually looking after their interests - as the evidence shows.
If the European 'elite' insist on Serbia without Kosovo, well then Serbia is NOT joining the EU, never.
I would like to see Serbia charge a special 'Kosovo Tax' to businesses from countries that recognize this fake, illegal and immoral puppet state.
Cheers!

Willie Garvin

pre 16 godina

Ahh! Good old president Tadic of the DS being economical with the truth and reality once again.

A week ago, Bozidar Djelic was telling Serbia that the SAA was going to be signed on 17 April. That has now passed, and now you are telling us that it was signed in November last year and that it is legally binding.

But how can that be so when one one party has signed it?

Your man Oliver went to the Netherlands to beg for their cooperation in this matter - and failed.

An now what do you offer us in response - more disinformation ...

Article 135 of the SAA initialled in November does NOT - I repeat, DOES NOT - confirm the status of Kosovo as part of Serbia. It says:
Quote...
The Agreement shall not apply in Kosovo which is at present under international administration pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 of 10 June 1999. This is without prejudice to the current status of Kosovo or the determination of its final status under the same Resolution.
...unquote.

I know English is not your first language, so I will translate this into simpler words for you. It says:

We are asking Belgrade to sign this document - which does not apply to Kosovo - because we intend taking it from you very shortly and asking Pristina to sign a similar SAA too.

What this means, is that Serbia will then be bound, as per the article 15 et al to be in good relations with an independent Pristina if they wish to join the EU.

Mr Tadic. You and the DS are potentially the best way forward for Serbia. Why do you have to lie to the people so much to get re-elected? You are just creating greater problems 2-3 years hence.

The only way into the EU for Serbia is to give up Kosovo. Please have the honesty to tell the people of Serbia the truth: one or the other, not both.

Bob

pre 16 godina

It is not an either or for Serbia - it is both.

Kosovo needs to be dealt with first - the EU will still be there after.

Serbia has right and law on its side - it will take time however.

I argue that as 1244 is not properly enforced by the international community, then it has lost its right to involvement in the situation - it is then for Serbia to enforce the autonomy described in 1244. If the international community view what has happened as a 'settlement' then defacto they have moved beyond 1244 and it no longer applies - Serbia is freed to act. Serbia on the other hand has every right to insist on the territorial integrity. In my view Serbia should act within the province beyond 1244 as of now (or at the very least state the intention and prepare the legal ground - I think the international press would understand the right of Serbia's situation and make it impossible for action to be directed against democratic Serbia - the days of blaming everything on Milosevic are past).

The mistake of the international community was not to have Serbia's agreement to a solution, so Serbia is legally free to take its territory back at any time in the future. Certainly the EU looks pretty clumsy and incompetent in the current situation.

The UDI is temporary, but the sooner it is reversed, the quicker it can all be properly resolved. I would advocate cooperative negotiation, but this time with the realisation that Kosovo will never be allowed to become or sustain as an independent state. That is what the UN should have insisted on previously.

Serbia should not sign the SAA until well after the election at the earliest when the parliament and others have has a chance to review the whole changed situation.

Serbia is in an untenable position. Unless it specifically votes to let Kosovo go, Serbia will stand humiliated in the world, and will at some time in the future have to act to reverse that.

This election is NOT a referendum on Kosovo, it is part of the uncertain politics of the future. Anyone who treats this as a referendum will be mocking Serbia - like the way the EU did in giving the go ahead for the UDI right after the last elections in Serbia.

vencor

pre 16 godina

The agreement was initialed before the unilateral declaration by Kosovo, when the EU and the world recognized Serbia as a country which included Kosovo within itself!

If the same status stands in EU's legally, the agreement also stands...

Mr. Tadic, before attempting to teach Serbians, please go back to school and learn a little more...!
After all, there are more than enough Serbian Law students that are brighter and more patriotic than you!

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

This is the reason elections were called in the first place. A referendum on whether to join the EU with or without Kosovo.

So why the rush Tadic? DS party memebers seem to be saying victory is theirs so if that is the case, why not wait until after the elections? Why is the EU so desperate to get a Serbian signature?

It doesn't take a genious to figure out what's going on.

Willie Garvin

pre 16 godina

Ahh! Good old president Tadic of the DS being economical with the truth and reality once again.

A week ago, Bozidar Djelic was telling Serbia that the SAA was going to be signed on 17 April. That has now passed, and now you are telling us that it was signed in November last year and that it is legally binding.

But how can that be so when one one party has signed it?

Your man Oliver went to the Netherlands to beg for their cooperation in this matter - and failed.

An now what do you offer us in response - more disinformation ...

Article 135 of the SAA initialled in November does NOT - I repeat, DOES NOT - confirm the status of Kosovo as part of Serbia. It says:
Quote...
The Agreement shall not apply in Kosovo which is at present under international administration pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 of 10 June 1999. This is without prejudice to the current status of Kosovo or the determination of its final status under the same Resolution.
...unquote.

I know English is not your first language, so I will translate this into simpler words for you. It says:

We are asking Belgrade to sign this document - which does not apply to Kosovo - because we intend taking it from you very shortly and asking Pristina to sign a similar SAA too.

What this means, is that Serbia will then be bound, as per the article 15 et al to be in good relations with an independent Pristina if they wish to join the EU.

Mr Tadic. You and the DS are potentially the best way forward for Serbia. Why do you have to lie to the people so much to get re-elected? You are just creating greater problems 2-3 years hence.

The only way into the EU for Serbia is to give up Kosovo. Please have the honesty to tell the people of Serbia the truth: one or the other, not both.

Bob

pre 16 godina

It is not an either or for Serbia - it is both.

Kosovo needs to be dealt with first - the EU will still be there after.

Serbia has right and law on its side - it will take time however.

I argue that as 1244 is not properly enforced by the international community, then it has lost its right to involvement in the situation - it is then for Serbia to enforce the autonomy described in 1244. If the international community view what has happened as a 'settlement' then defacto they have moved beyond 1244 and it no longer applies - Serbia is freed to act. Serbia on the other hand has every right to insist on the territorial integrity. In my view Serbia should act within the province beyond 1244 as of now (or at the very least state the intention and prepare the legal ground - I think the international press would understand the right of Serbia's situation and make it impossible for action to be directed against democratic Serbia - the days of blaming everything on Milosevic are past).

The mistake of the international community was not to have Serbia's agreement to a solution, so Serbia is legally free to take its territory back at any time in the future. Certainly the EU looks pretty clumsy and incompetent in the current situation.

The UDI is temporary, but the sooner it is reversed, the quicker it can all be properly resolved. I would advocate cooperative negotiation, but this time with the realisation that Kosovo will never be allowed to become or sustain as an independent state. That is what the UN should have insisted on previously.

Serbia should not sign the SAA until well after the election at the earliest when the parliament and others have has a chance to review the whole changed situation.

Serbia is in an untenable position. Unless it specifically votes to let Kosovo go, Serbia will stand humiliated in the world, and will at some time in the future have to act to reverse that.

This election is NOT a referendum on Kosovo, it is part of the uncertain politics of the future. Anyone who treats this as a referendum will be mocking Serbia - like the way the EU did in giving the go ahead for the UDI right after the last elections in Serbia.

Dragan

pre 16 godina

I think Willie Garvin summed things up perfectly, and exposed Tadic and the gang for the deceitful liars that they are.
Kostunica knows what the EU is up to, and that is why he is asking for a simple annex confirming that the signature includes ALL of Serbia, including Kosovo. The European masters refuse, and Kostunica has forced them and Tadic to show their true motives. I like Kostunica, as do most Serbs, because he is actually looking after their interests - as the evidence shows.
If the European 'elite' insist on Serbia without Kosovo, well then Serbia is NOT joining the EU, never.
I would like to see Serbia charge a special 'Kosovo Tax' to businesses from countries that recognize this fake, illegal and immoral puppet state.
Cheers!