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Friday, 11.04.2008.

16:05

"Holland prepared to soften SAA stance"

Holland is prepared to soften its stance on the SAA, Dutch Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen told Serbian state television RTS today.

Izvor: B92

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raso

pre 16 godina

@ will

yeah right, no us-involvment, thats why poland, malta, turkey and serbia is discussing or had discussed eu-entry with the u.s..

you´re a collony and serbia is not, no matter how often you call my souveraign country a pawn. but your from the eu, so you should already know how to deal with the fact that your opinion doesn´t count or have any value.

russia knows where it´s place is, as does china or the complete world.

so - if we take your nonsense serious - serbia is a pawn of the whole world.

and this still wouldn´t change the fact, that a dutch word of honor holds nearly a whole month.

but don´t get me wrong, i don´t hate the netherlands at all. i´m much too clever to hate a problem, that global warming will solve.

shqarthi

pre 16 godina

Do they take the initiative to say these things without anybody asking, or do they answer questions coming from Serbian media? Because if they are being interviewed by Serbian media that ask "What about the SAA?" of course they are going to talk about the SAA and the Serbian media will publish what they say.
Did the Dutch minister called B92 and said "I want to talk about SAA"?
Or did B92 ask to interview him? There is a big difference, the first case would be "propaganda", the second one not.

Logic

pre 16 godina

Tadic' signature on "softened" stance's bastard SAA, would have the same value and importance for Serbia like his signature on any wall or even on all the walls in Serbia for that matter. Just an ugly, dirty grafitti that requires clean up ASAP.

veki

pre 16 godina

EU is like that mythological monster Medusa with 100 heads.

Poor Serbs being attacked, blackmailed and misguided, falsely promised every day by one of the snake-heads.

What a nightmare...limbo
of democracy, law,international order, decency and common sense that ordinary citisens of Serbia has to go through every day reading these 'news'.

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

This is absolutely ridiculous. All week we've had people from the EU saying different things, contradicting each other, and generally pulling in different directions. Let them offer the SAA to Serbia, as with any other country, or let them stick it where the sun don't shine.

Martin

pre 16 godina

Smile, for once I agree with you. This EU circus is going too far. The Dutch proposal is so obviously a propaganda stunt it's painful to read. If this is the best Holland and the EU can do they're running out of options big time. It won't make a positive impression on the Serbian public. Rather, these manouverings will discredit the EU even more.

It's a sad day when European diplomacy is based on cheap talk and thin air.

Marko

pre 16 godina

Wow, after the enticing offer of Solana's big imaginary love for Serbia, now we are being asked to sign an imaginary and non binding SAA as an offer of friendship while they make an imaginary state on our territory. The EU really knows how to win the Hearts and Minds of Serbs.

Is anyone sucker enough to go for this; we will find out on May 11?

Ratko

pre 16 godina

To will:

Compared to the kind of puppets albanians are with american masters - Serbia in no way is a puppet.

I'm just curious... why you think Serbia is going to be isolated? Why is it that even Russia can have relations with EU and vice verca, but only Serbia cannot? Why is Serbia the only one being blackmailed?

bganon

pre 16 godina

Oh... Can see it now.. the Tadic, Djelic and EU officials singing the agreement, under the glare of the media.

Will it be enough? Million dollar question.

smile

pre 16 godina

give it up for godsakes! :))
its a pathetic propaganda ploy, nothing more, nothing less.
"we will sign it but it wont happen until you arrest mladic"
hahahahahha! so why the hell sign it? how will it be different for serbia compared to what we have or dont have now?
oh, i know, they'll sign it as pathetic last ditch propaganda effort to try and save what cant be saved, solana's ally tadic and his party remaining where power really is, meaning in government. it has nothing to do with the benefit of serbia. serbia will be no closer to the eu and it will not benefit. tadic is supposed to benefit. albanians, feith and others who dont know what to do right now with their illegal mission that needs belgrade's blessing but will not get it from dss are supposed to benefit.
oh wait and why would the eu go for something so transparent and offensive?
oh, because they think serbs are gullible idiots. and, because they know for sure srs dss are headed for a win.
i say, hang on to you chairs, may 11, around 9 pm. just hang on to your chairs and see us for the nation we really are. poor? more often than not. powerful? hardly ever. free? always. or fighting for our freedom with all we're worth. for this reason i was anti milosevic since high school days. it makes no difference to me who is trying to enslave and destroy us, turks, hitler, milosevic, tadic or brussels. the answer is NO.

Will

pre 16 godina

Raso, whose "puppet" are they? after all they are the only EU country to put restrictions on SAA and USA is not involved so whose puppet are they? the only puppet...sorry not puppet...i think the correct word is "pawn" is serbia. You think that serbia can disagree with russia? truth is that the government will do anything not to annoy russia because it knows that without russia, serbia does not even have a remote chance to argue. So who is the puppet? Good luck with your exculusive club of Cuba, Russia, Iran, Serbia etc. Hope it works out.

raso

pre 16 godina

holland isn´t in the position to allow anything to serbia, as we have seen.

great dutch words of a veto nearly held a month after big pressure.

this says it all, and mainly that holland is the worst possible puppet: a puppet that doesn´t know it´s place in the world!

raso

pre 16 godina

holland isn´t in the position to allow anything to serbia, as we have seen.

great dutch words of a veto nearly held a month after big pressure.

this says it all, and mainly that holland is the worst possible puppet: a puppet that doesn´t know it´s place in the world!

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

This is absolutely ridiculous. All week we've had people from the EU saying different things, contradicting each other, and generally pulling in different directions. Let them offer the SAA to Serbia, as with any other country, or let them stick it where the sun don't shine.

Martin

pre 16 godina

Smile, for once I agree with you. This EU circus is going too far. The Dutch proposal is so obviously a propaganda stunt it's painful to read. If this is the best Holland and the EU can do they're running out of options big time. It won't make a positive impression on the Serbian public. Rather, these manouverings will discredit the EU even more.

It's a sad day when European diplomacy is based on cheap talk and thin air.

Ratko

pre 16 godina

To will:

Compared to the kind of puppets albanians are with american masters - Serbia in no way is a puppet.

I'm just curious... why you think Serbia is going to be isolated? Why is it that even Russia can have relations with EU and vice verca, but only Serbia cannot? Why is Serbia the only one being blackmailed?

Marko

pre 16 godina

Wow, after the enticing offer of Solana's big imaginary love for Serbia, now we are being asked to sign an imaginary and non binding SAA as an offer of friendship while they make an imaginary state on our territory. The EU really knows how to win the Hearts and Minds of Serbs.

Is anyone sucker enough to go for this; we will find out on May 11?

Will

pre 16 godina

Raso, whose "puppet" are they? after all they are the only EU country to put restrictions on SAA and USA is not involved so whose puppet are they? the only puppet...sorry not puppet...i think the correct word is "pawn" is serbia. You think that serbia can disagree with russia? truth is that the government will do anything not to annoy russia because it knows that without russia, serbia does not even have a remote chance to argue. So who is the puppet? Good luck with your exculusive club of Cuba, Russia, Iran, Serbia etc. Hope it works out.

smile

pre 16 godina

give it up for godsakes! :))
its a pathetic propaganda ploy, nothing more, nothing less.
"we will sign it but it wont happen until you arrest mladic"
hahahahahha! so why the hell sign it? how will it be different for serbia compared to what we have or dont have now?
oh, i know, they'll sign it as pathetic last ditch propaganda effort to try and save what cant be saved, solana's ally tadic and his party remaining where power really is, meaning in government. it has nothing to do with the benefit of serbia. serbia will be no closer to the eu and it will not benefit. tadic is supposed to benefit. albanians, feith and others who dont know what to do right now with their illegal mission that needs belgrade's blessing but will not get it from dss are supposed to benefit.
oh wait and why would the eu go for something so transparent and offensive?
oh, because they think serbs are gullible idiots. and, because they know for sure srs dss are headed for a win.
i say, hang on to you chairs, may 11, around 9 pm. just hang on to your chairs and see us for the nation we really are. poor? more often than not. powerful? hardly ever. free? always. or fighting for our freedom with all we're worth. for this reason i was anti milosevic since high school days. it makes no difference to me who is trying to enslave and destroy us, turks, hitler, milosevic, tadic or brussels. the answer is NO.

veki

pre 16 godina

EU is like that mythological monster Medusa with 100 heads.

Poor Serbs being attacked, blackmailed and misguided, falsely promised every day by one of the snake-heads.

What a nightmare...limbo
of democracy, law,international order, decency and common sense that ordinary citisens of Serbia has to go through every day reading these 'news'.

bganon

pre 16 godina

Oh... Can see it now.. the Tadic, Djelic and EU officials singing the agreement, under the glare of the media.

Will it be enough? Million dollar question.

Logic

pre 16 godina

Tadic' signature on "softened" stance's bastard SAA, would have the same value and importance for Serbia like his signature on any wall or even on all the walls in Serbia for that matter. Just an ugly, dirty grafitti that requires clean up ASAP.

shqarthi

pre 16 godina

Do they take the initiative to say these things without anybody asking, or do they answer questions coming from Serbian media? Because if they are being interviewed by Serbian media that ask "What about the SAA?" of course they are going to talk about the SAA and the Serbian media will publish what they say.
Did the Dutch minister called B92 and said "I want to talk about SAA"?
Or did B92 ask to interview him? There is a big difference, the first case would be "propaganda", the second one not.

raso

pre 16 godina

@ will

yeah right, no us-involvment, thats why poland, malta, turkey and serbia is discussing or had discussed eu-entry with the u.s..

you´re a collony and serbia is not, no matter how often you call my souveraign country a pawn. but your from the eu, so you should already know how to deal with the fact that your opinion doesn´t count or have any value.

russia knows where it´s place is, as does china or the complete world.

so - if we take your nonsense serious - serbia is a pawn of the whole world.

and this still wouldn´t change the fact, that a dutch word of honor holds nearly a whole month.

but don´t get me wrong, i don´t hate the netherlands at all. i´m much too clever to hate a problem, that global warming will solve.

Will

pre 16 godina

Raso, whose "puppet" are they? after all they are the only EU country to put restrictions on SAA and USA is not involved so whose puppet are they? the only puppet...sorry not puppet...i think the correct word is "pawn" is serbia. You think that serbia can disagree with russia? truth is that the government will do anything not to annoy russia because it knows that without russia, serbia does not even have a remote chance to argue. So who is the puppet? Good luck with your exculusive club of Cuba, Russia, Iran, Serbia etc. Hope it works out.

raso

pre 16 godina

holland isn´t in the position to allow anything to serbia, as we have seen.

great dutch words of a veto nearly held a month after big pressure.

this says it all, and mainly that holland is the worst possible puppet: a puppet that doesn´t know it´s place in the world!

smile

pre 16 godina

give it up for godsakes! :))
its a pathetic propaganda ploy, nothing more, nothing less.
"we will sign it but it wont happen until you arrest mladic"
hahahahahha! so why the hell sign it? how will it be different for serbia compared to what we have or dont have now?
oh, i know, they'll sign it as pathetic last ditch propaganda effort to try and save what cant be saved, solana's ally tadic and his party remaining where power really is, meaning in government. it has nothing to do with the benefit of serbia. serbia will be no closer to the eu and it will not benefit. tadic is supposed to benefit. albanians, feith and others who dont know what to do right now with their illegal mission that needs belgrade's blessing but will not get it from dss are supposed to benefit.
oh wait and why would the eu go for something so transparent and offensive?
oh, because they think serbs are gullible idiots. and, because they know for sure srs dss are headed for a win.
i say, hang on to you chairs, may 11, around 9 pm. just hang on to your chairs and see us for the nation we really are. poor? more often than not. powerful? hardly ever. free? always. or fighting for our freedom with all we're worth. for this reason i was anti milosevic since high school days. it makes no difference to me who is trying to enslave and destroy us, turks, hitler, milosevic, tadic or brussels. the answer is NO.

Ratko

pre 16 godina

To will:

Compared to the kind of puppets albanians are with american masters - Serbia in no way is a puppet.

I'm just curious... why you think Serbia is going to be isolated? Why is it that even Russia can have relations with EU and vice verca, but only Serbia cannot? Why is Serbia the only one being blackmailed?

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

This is absolutely ridiculous. All week we've had people from the EU saying different things, contradicting each other, and generally pulling in different directions. Let them offer the SAA to Serbia, as with any other country, or let them stick it where the sun don't shine.

bganon

pre 16 godina

Oh... Can see it now.. the Tadic, Djelic and EU officials singing the agreement, under the glare of the media.

Will it be enough? Million dollar question.

Martin

pre 16 godina

Smile, for once I agree with you. This EU circus is going too far. The Dutch proposal is so obviously a propaganda stunt it's painful to read. If this is the best Holland and the EU can do they're running out of options big time. It won't make a positive impression on the Serbian public. Rather, these manouverings will discredit the EU even more.

It's a sad day when European diplomacy is based on cheap talk and thin air.

Marko

pre 16 godina

Wow, after the enticing offer of Solana's big imaginary love for Serbia, now we are being asked to sign an imaginary and non binding SAA as an offer of friendship while they make an imaginary state on our territory. The EU really knows how to win the Hearts and Minds of Serbs.

Is anyone sucker enough to go for this; we will find out on May 11?

veki

pre 16 godina

EU is like that mythological monster Medusa with 100 heads.

Poor Serbs being attacked, blackmailed and misguided, falsely promised every day by one of the snake-heads.

What a nightmare...limbo
of democracy, law,international order, decency and common sense that ordinary citisens of Serbia has to go through every day reading these 'news'.

Logic

pre 16 godina

Tadic' signature on "softened" stance's bastard SAA, would have the same value and importance for Serbia like his signature on any wall or even on all the walls in Serbia for that matter. Just an ugly, dirty grafitti that requires clean up ASAP.

shqarthi

pre 16 godina

Do they take the initiative to say these things without anybody asking, or do they answer questions coming from Serbian media? Because if they are being interviewed by Serbian media that ask "What about the SAA?" of course they are going to talk about the SAA and the Serbian media will publish what they say.
Did the Dutch minister called B92 and said "I want to talk about SAA"?
Or did B92 ask to interview him? There is a big difference, the first case would be "propaganda", the second one not.

raso

pre 16 godina

@ will

yeah right, no us-involvment, thats why poland, malta, turkey and serbia is discussing or had discussed eu-entry with the u.s..

you´re a collony and serbia is not, no matter how often you call my souveraign country a pawn. but your from the eu, so you should already know how to deal with the fact that your opinion doesn´t count or have any value.

russia knows where it´s place is, as does china or the complete world.

so - if we take your nonsense serious - serbia is a pawn of the whole world.

and this still wouldn´t change the fact, that a dutch word of honor holds nearly a whole month.

but don´t get me wrong, i don´t hate the netherlands at all. i´m much too clever to hate a problem, that global warming will solve.