UNMIK, U.S.: Local elections illegal

US/NATO (one and the same), which really is the one pulling all the strings these days, has a history of making mistakes in judgement (both domestically and abroad), mistakes so consistent and predictable that I wander if they are made on purpose for some "New World Order" reasons. US mistakes cost Americans hundreds of thousands of lives and non Americans millions. US thrives on chaos and is successfully creating it wherever it can...which brings me to my comment about this article. The reason it looks like UN/NATO, US, EU don't know what they are doing is because...they don't know what they are doing. Bombing of Serbia was supposed to put us in our place, to never again raise our heads...yet we do. See, if Serbs could be spineless and adopt posture of subordination whenever somebody with more weapons shows up, world would be much simpler place to those who took upon themselves to impose dictatorship over the whole world under the hospices of spreading democracy to puppet states. All these politicians stepping up to the microphone to express their strong convictions about how things should be are in disbelief that after all the treaths and manipulation we are still not falling in line with their way of thinking, never, for a moment, considering that it's their way of thinking that is wrong.

to maks:

So why are you so concerned about what Vojo & Samrdzic have to say? So here you are, an albanian, on a SERBIAN SITE giving SERBS advice? Do you think we really need advice from people who are trying to steal our land?

... Meantime in Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack also weighed in on the issue, to say that "Kosovo is a sovereign state where elections should not be called and organized by another state"...

.... Mr McMormack also believes that Donald Duck is a real duck that really goes 'quack', lays eggs and swims on water....

For the record - the sovereign state of Serbia includes Kosovo as a province within the territory whose integrity was guaranteed by resolution 1244 of the UN.

It would be in order for Serbia to use force to ensure that this status is maintained under other internationally agreed statues that allow states to defend themselves against the illegal actions of other states. I think that the international press are now aware of the wrong that the US has done to Serbia - they have moved on from the Milosevic bashing to realising that the people of Serbia have democratic and legal rights that are being unilaterally abused by the international community. I think too that the international press are aware of the incompetence of the EU in not taking the democratic forces in Serbia seriously - the EU abused the pro-european vote of Serbs in the previous election by using their vote as the switch to tell the Ethinc Albanians that they can take over Kosovo.

The illegal UDI is not as indicated in earlier resolutions and is merely an illegal invention of the US.

Kosovo is NOT a sovereign state, it is in an intermediate form awaiting the political settlement required by resolution 1244.

As they say .... 'get used to it'....

The UDI will be eternally challenged and the current status of Kosovo will remain insecure.

Maks, I hope you realize that K-Serbs need little coaxing from Belgrade. They have clearly shown their distain for Pristina-based institutions and have shown their opposition is by their own will. No one from Belgrade is forcing them to act the way they are. They, like Belgrade, refuse to recognize the institutions in Pristina as theirs, and with good reason. Therefore, you, or anyone else, can say Kosovo is an independent state, but the Serbs do not, and will not see that.

LOL - After the 1999 bombing, the US is complaining that some act in the Balkans violates international law . . .

If it weren't so pathetic it would be funny.

Ratko,

You have it all wrong. Maks is Serbia's friend, and like Nato and the EU he is trying to help us by telling us what to think, how to vote, who to vote for and where our borders are. Certianly they know these things better than our backward little nation.

In doing this for us they only ask that we give up our ideas, heratige, democratic rights and soverignty. We have a brave Man in Mr. Tadic who is willing to help the EU and people like Maks bring us up to date in this new American century.

It's for our own good resistance is futile

Mak - wrong argument on your part I think.

I am not overly interested in the details of the history and I am not going to claim great expertise on the matter. However a fairly obvious reading of the facts is that Serbia is the successor state and so owns Kosovo. Kosovo has never been a state - Albanian or otherwise, but it has been part of Serbia - e.g., after 1917 it was most definitely so.

In general I think your argument is based on wishing.

Unfortunately Serbia's argument is now based on wishing too. Personally I think they should send in their police to enforce 1244 - something the UN is not really doing if it tolerates this UDI without Serbia's agreement.

The only basis for the UDI to sustain is that the US is enforcing it. That can be reversed in due time. Certainly the EU can't get its act together without having its hand held.

How sad! Beograd didn’t want Serbs in Kosovo to vote. Beograd shut down the democracy because they knew if they didn’t, those democratic elected local Serb representatives will speak out of behalf of local Serb interests instead of interests of Beograd official fighting for PM chair. Kostunica and Samardzic knew they will be no for them to be re-elected because all what they offer the Serbian people is nationalist rhetoric and nothing else.

Ratko,
I am not giving any advice; it is just what I think about nationalist rhetoric used in Serbian election toward Kosovo for their own political interest, each doesn’t contribute in peace in region.
If it was for me, I already have written some comment each were censured by B92 where I hoped Radicals in Serbia win so it is better to know what they can do when they sit in PM chair. It is just a propaganda when you are in opposite but it is totally different when you sit there and make decision. If they make or not similar decision like Milosevic did decades ago it is up to them. But I wish they win. At least all the talking is over and world will see the true face of them.
Regarding “stilling the land”, I hope you have time to check back in History of Balkan and see where you belong and who stole each-other land. Wake up my friend and see the reality. Folkloric dreams doesn’t make anyone happy.

Maks
What US did to you Albanians is a very, very cruel. There is nothing worst than being given a hope just to see that hope dashed. Minority of world's countries that recognized the attempted Great Albanian Robbery is not going succeed in making the ploy work, we know it, you know it and they know it. In a hine-site, if given a chance, even US would have taken a different path now. Bush is not going to change his policy, he is not brave enough and not man enough to do that, but he is gone in a few months and the last thing that people electing new president want Obama to do is defend a fake state which is a part of a real state. Now, UN will stick around for awhile, doing nothing, who know maybe even Eulex. Serbia will become member of EU and KosovO will remain part of it with a wink and a nod by the same countries you are now writing thank you cards to. What a cruel, cruel thing they did.

Kosovo moved on in its destiny. Train of Independence has already departed. There is no return back. It is time for peace and prosperity of this region. Can we effort to lose more years in conflicts?
Time to move on.
(Maks, 11 April 2008 22:58)
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You should have thought about it before you went ahead and decided to breech international laws guaranteeing sovereignty of this country. Yes, we can afford that and so will you. There is another way as well. Cancel the non-binding UDI and
get back to the negotiating table with your Serb countrymen. Anything else will inevitably lead to another war and if no one told you yet, your overlord protector is slowly but surely going down. I still hope the peace and reason will prevail before it's too late.

For the record - the sovereign state of Serbia includes Kosovo as a province within the territory whose integrity was guaranteed by resolution 1244 of the UN.
(Bob, 11 April 2008 19:41)

For record – In resolution 1244, “…Kosovo is constitutional part of Yugoslavia; its status will be negotiated…”
Yugoslavia is dead. It exists only on Serbian News Agency (TAGJUG) and Serbian Airline (YAT) also in nostalgic minds.
Kosovo moved on in its destiny. Train of Independence has already departed. There is no return back. It is time for peace and prosperity of this region. Can we effort to lose more years in conflicts?
Time to move on.

Serbian friends,


Kosova is a sovereign country. There, I said it, US said it, and the whole world said it.

If, the General Secretary put a resolution which banned Kosova and made it part of Serbia, do you honestly believe anyone would take the UN serious? You really think we're just going to hand in our government, our money, our control to Belgrade?

We are free, you'll have to come with strong force to take our liberation away from Belgrade occupators.

The illegal state of "kosova" has moved into obscurity. Gone are the days of 7 news alerts from Google. Watch the Serbs demandSerbian troops to protect them (res. 1244 allows 1000), and watch the elections go on, and read more negative articles on the Albanians. The tide is turning, and the k albs are laboring under the impression that military aid from the US will save them again. It won't, you are not in the news anymore, the US wants this embassment to go away.

Samardžić: UNMIK must hold elections in Kosovo - Because I SAID SO.

Kosova is a sovereign country. There, I said it, US said it, and the whole world said it.

You really think we're just going to hand in our government, our money, our control to Belgrade?

We are free, you'll have to come with strong force to take our liberation away from Belgrade occupators.
(KS, 11 April 2008 22:57)


Mmmm....the whole world has said you're a sovereign country? No they haven't - only 36 out of 192 countries have, which means 83% of the world has not recognised Kosovo's illegal UDI.

Going to hand over YOUR money? Since when has this super rich illegal state gained its money from - it's own hard work? Definitely not! It's Serbian money and Serbian land and it's Serbian buildings and its Serbian infrastructure...I take it you understand that bit!

You are not free! You never will be free! In your current status you will never join NATO. With your worthless pasports you will never go anywhere - unless you want to go to the US or to Britain - but trust me, in Britain we too are fed up with immigrants!

Do you not realise that the illegal recognition of Kosovo was done by most EU countries because they are fed up of Kosovo Albanians seeking refuge in other countries. Your UDI is so that you can stay where you are and not because they want to be your 'friends'.

Ratko,
I am not giving any advice; it is just what I think about nationalist rhetoric used in Serbian election toward Kosovo for their own political interest, each doesn’t contribute in peace in region.
If it was for me, I already have written some comment each were censured by B92 where I hoped Radicals in Serbia win so it is better to know what they can do when they sit in PM chair. It is just a propaganda when you are in opposite but it is totally different when you sit there and make decision. If they make or not similar decision like Milosevic did decades ago it is up to them. But I wish they win. At least all the talking is over and world will see the true face of them.
Regarding “stilling the land”, I hope you have time to check back in History of Balkan and see where you belong and who stole each-other land. Wake up my friend and see the reality. Folkloric dreams doesn’t make anyone happy.

How sad! Beograd didn’t want Serbs in Kosovo to vote. Beograd shut down the democracy because they knew if they didn’t, those democratic elected local Serb representatives will speak out of behalf of local Serb interests instead of interests of Beograd official fighting for PM chair. Kostunica and Samardzic knew they will be no for them to be re-elected because all what they offer the Serbian people is nationalist rhetoric and nothing else.

Samardžić: UNMIK must hold elections in Kosovo - Because I SAID SO.

For the record - the sovereign state of Serbia includes Kosovo as a province within the territory whose integrity was guaranteed by resolution 1244 of the UN.
(Bob, 11 April 2008 19:41)

For record – In resolution 1244, “…Kosovo is constitutional part of Yugoslavia; its status will be negotiated…”
Yugoslavia is dead. It exists only on Serbian News Agency (TAGJUG) and Serbian Airline (YAT) also in nostalgic minds.
Kosovo moved on in its destiny. Train of Independence has already departed. There is no return back. It is time for peace and prosperity of this region. Can we effort to lose more years in conflicts?
Time to move on.

Serbian friends,


Kosova is a sovereign country. There, I said it, US said it, and the whole world said it.

If, the General Secretary put a resolution which banned Kosova and made it part of Serbia, do you honestly believe anyone would take the UN serious? You really think we're just going to hand in our government, our money, our control to Belgrade?

We are free, you'll have to come with strong force to take our liberation away from Belgrade occupators.

to maks:

So why are you so concerned about what Vojo & Samrdzic have to say? So here you are, an albanian, on a SERBIAN SITE giving SERBS advice? Do you think we really need advice from people who are trying to steal our land?

Maks, I hope you realize that K-Serbs need little coaxing from Belgrade. They have clearly shown their distain for Pristina-based institutions and have shown their opposition is by their own will. No one from Belgrade is forcing them to act the way they are. They, like Belgrade, refuse to recognize the institutions in Pristina as theirs, and with good reason. Therefore, you, or anyone else, can say Kosovo is an independent state, but the Serbs do not, and will not see that.

Kosovo moved on in its destiny. Train of Independence has already departed. There is no return back. It is time for peace and prosperity of this region. Can we effort to lose more years in conflicts?
Time to move on.
(Maks, 11 April 2008 22:58)
------------------------------
You should have thought about it before you went ahead and decided to breech international laws guaranteeing sovereignty of this country. Yes, we can afford that and so will you. There is another way as well. Cancel the non-binding UDI and
get back to the negotiating table with your Serb countrymen. Anything else will inevitably lead to another war and if no one told you yet, your overlord protector is slowly but surely going down. I still hope the peace and reason will prevail before it's too late.

Mak - wrong argument on your part I think.

I am not overly interested in the details of the history and I am not going to claim great expertise on the matter. However a fairly obvious reading of the facts is that Serbia is the successor state and so owns Kosovo. Kosovo has never been a state - Albanian or otherwise, but it has been part of Serbia - e.g., after 1917 it was most definitely so.

In general I think your argument is based on wishing.

Unfortunately Serbia's argument is now based on wishing too. Personally I think they should send in their police to enforce 1244 - something the UN is not really doing if it tolerates this UDI without Serbia's agreement.

The only basis for the UDI to sustain is that the US is enforcing it. That can be reversed in due time. Certainly the EU can't get its act together without having its hand held.

Ratko,

You have it all wrong. Maks is Serbia's friend, and like Nato and the EU he is trying to help us by telling us what to think, how to vote, who to vote for and where our borders are. Certianly they know these things better than our backward little nation.

In doing this for us they only ask that we give up our ideas, heratige, democratic rights and soverignty. We have a brave Man in Mr. Tadic who is willing to help the EU and people like Maks bring us up to date in this new American century.

It's for our own good resistance is futile

LOL - After the 1999 bombing, the US is complaining that some act in the Balkans violates international law . . .

If it weren't so pathetic it would be funny.

... Meantime in Washington, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack also weighed in on the issue, to say that "Kosovo is a sovereign state where elections should not be called and organized by another state"...

.... Mr McMormack also believes that Donald Duck is a real duck that really goes 'quack', lays eggs and swims on water....

For the record - the sovereign state of Serbia includes Kosovo as a province within the territory whose integrity was guaranteed by resolution 1244 of the UN.

It would be in order for Serbia to use force to ensure that this status is maintained under other internationally agreed statues that allow states to defend themselves against the illegal actions of other states. I think that the international press are now aware of the wrong that the US has done to Serbia - they have moved on from the Milosevic bashing to realising that the people of Serbia have democratic and legal rights that are being unilaterally abused by the international community. I think too that the international press are aware of the incompetence of the EU in not taking the democratic forces in Serbia seriously - the EU abused the pro-european vote of Serbs in the previous election by using their vote as the switch to tell the Ethinc Albanians that they can take over Kosovo.

The illegal UDI is not as indicated in earlier resolutions and is merely an illegal invention of the US.

Kosovo is NOT a sovereign state, it is in an intermediate form awaiting the political settlement required by resolution 1244.

As they say .... 'get used to it'....

The UDI will be eternally challenged and the current status of Kosovo will remain insecure.

US/NATO (one and the same), which really is the one pulling all the strings these days, has a history of making mistakes in judgement (both domestically and abroad), mistakes so consistent and predictable that I wander if they are made on purpose for some "New World Order" reasons. US mistakes cost Americans hundreds of thousands of lives and non Americans millions. US thrives on chaos and is successfully creating it wherever it can...which brings me to my comment about this article. The reason it looks like UN/NATO, US, EU don't know what they are doing is because...they don't know what they are doing. Bombing of Serbia was supposed to put us in our place, to never again raise our heads...yet we do. See, if Serbs could be spineless and adopt posture of subordination whenever somebody with more weapons shows up, world would be much simpler place to those who took upon themselves to impose dictatorship over the whole world under the hospices of spreading democracy to puppet states. All these politicians stepping up to the microphone to express their strong convictions about how things should be are in disbelief that after all the treaths and manipulation we are still not falling in line with their way of thinking, never, for a moment, considering that it's their way of thinking that is wrong.

Maks
What US did to you Albanians is a very, very cruel. There is nothing worst than being given a hope just to see that hope dashed. Minority of world's countries that recognized the attempted Great Albanian Robbery is not going succeed in making the ploy work, we know it, you know it and they know it. In a hine-site, if given a chance, even US would have taken a different path now. Bush is not going to change his policy, he is not brave enough and not man enough to do that, but he is gone in a few months and the last thing that people electing new president want Obama to do is defend a fake state which is a part of a real state. Now, UN will stick around for awhile, doing nothing, who know maybe even Eulex. Serbia will become member of EU and KosovO will remain part of it with a wink and a nod by the same countries you are now writing thank you cards to. What a cruel, cruel thing they did.

The illegal state of "kosova" has moved into obscurity. Gone are the days of 7 news alerts from Google. Watch the Serbs demandSerbian troops to protect them (res. 1244 allows 1000), and watch the elections go on, and read more negative articles on the Albanians. The tide is turning, and the k albs are laboring under the impression that military aid from the US will save them again. It won't, you are not in the news anymore, the US wants this embassment to go away.

Kosova is a sovereign country. There, I said it, US said it, and the whole world said it.

You really think we're just going to hand in our government, our money, our control to Belgrade?

We are free, you'll have to come with strong force to take our liberation away from Belgrade occupators.
(KS, 11 April 2008 22:57)


Mmmm....the whole world has said you're a sovereign country? No they haven't - only 36 out of 192 countries have, which means 83% of the world has not recognised Kosovo's illegal UDI.

Going to hand over YOUR money? Since when has this super rich illegal state gained its money from - it's own hard work? Definitely not! It's Serbian money and Serbian land and it's Serbian buildings and its Serbian infrastructure...I take it you understand that bit!

You are not free! You never will be free! In your current status you will never join NATO. With your worthless pasports you will never go anywhere - unless you want to go to the US or to Britain - but trust me, in Britain we too are fed up with immigrants!

Do you not realise that the illegal recognition of Kosovo was done by most EU countries because they are fed up of Kosovo Albanians seeking refuge in other countries. Your UDI is so that you can stay where you are and not because they want to be your 'friends'.