UNMIK: Kosovo vote breaches 1244

"And we hope that a solution will be found in the near future,” Di Carlo said
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It's nice to hear the US admitting the solution in place is not final. I can tell her that the only acceptable one will be "more than autonomy and less than independence". It will be more than the Albanians have now and since the puppet strings are firmly attached, they will have no choice but to accept.

It is just a matter of time for the US to realise it is going nowhere with its currently policy.

“The Contact Group unanimously believes that local elections should not be held in Kosovo,” explained the spokesman."

Unanimous??? Another blatant lie! As I understand it, Moscow is still part of the Contact Group -- and the newly elected incoming Russian president has just declared that K-Serbs have the right to vote come May 11!

Isn't Kosovo part of Serbia as outlined in Resolution 1244? As an inalienable component of Serbia, don't the citizens of Kosovo have a right to vote in the Serbian elections? The Western governments that authored the resolution wouldn't want to be seen as obstructing democracy now, would they?

Now speaking of breaches of Resolution 1244. . .doesn't the illegal UDI infringe upon the accord?

How about the opening of foreign embassies? Or the position of war criminals as elected officials?

Aren't these violations of the resolution?

One more question. . .when is this Eurocrat circus going to end already?!?

“A senior State Department official says that UNMIK will decide whether Serbian elections will be held in Kosovo.”

If not UNMIK, then the EU mission. If not them, then NATO or the Contact Group.

One thing at least is certain, Albanians will decide nothing in their “Independent Kosova.”

The issue of Serbian elections is just one of hundreds of tricky issues the Americans and their allies will have to deal with following their “recognition” of Kosovo’s independence.

Another issue is that of Camp Bondsteel. It was the Serbian government that granted the Americans a 100 year lease on the land on which Bondsteel was built. The Americans pay an annual rent to the Serbian government for this land.

What is going to happen now that the Americans have “recognised” Kosovo independence? Are they going to continue paying Serbia rent for Bondsteel? If they do, then they clearly still respect Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo. If they don’t, then they are in breach of contract and the Serbian government can annul the lease and demand their eviction. There are international courts which will rule in Serbia’s favour on this issue.

As Sir Walter Scot so famously put it:

"Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!"

The new constitution most definitely breaches 1244, these Serbian elections do not because they are a reasonable requirement of any nation state. Given that the territorial integrity of Serbia is guaranteed by several laws (not just 1244) it is right for Serbia to run these elections.

I am in agreement that it is time that 1244 was used in Serbia's favour rather than as a stick to beat it.

Serbia has every right to defend its territory from the illegal UDI despite 1244 that may imply that they do not have a right to do so. You cannont breach the rule then use the rule to stop the enforcement of the rule.

Serbia should establish its presence throughout Kosovo by sending in its police - whatever the consequences.

The west has been treating Serbia like dirt - it is time to call their bluff.

The Resolution 1244 should be disolved and flushed down the toilet. The 1244 has been breached numerous times since the inception and should be flushed down the toilet. As a matter of fact every international law has been breached.
The Serbian, Russian and Chinese armies should then enter and retake Kosovo with force. Time for some Serbian
"shock and awe" in Kosovo
This is the only way to get the trash out of Kosovo. As they say in the USA
"Might is right"
"The strong will prevail"
"Nice guys finish last"

This is what Solana said yesterday:
> He added that “the local elections on May 11 will be very important because they’re being held for the first time in northern Kosovo.“

And this is what is said in the article above:
> A senior State Department official says that UNMIK will decide whether Serbian elections will be held in Kosovo.

Seems that the 'interpretation' of UN resolution 1244 with regard to holding elections in Kosovo varies depending on who is doing the interpreting.

As 'Princip' would say.. Oh what a tangled web we weave...

US official goes on to say:
> She underlined the importance of respecting international institutions in Kosovo—the UN, KFOR, and the EU mission that was being established.

EU mission has not received authorisation from the UN, nor does it have the agreement from Belgrade for its deployment. As such it is illegal, & in effect, an occupying force.

All the above is immaterial anyway. If K-albanians can hold elections for their purposes, so can the K-serbs. Is impossible to stop without draconian use of force.

He said that UNMIK’s position on parliamentary elections remained as before—“we don’t support them, but we won’t obstruct them.”
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Blah Blah Blah, so long as you don't obstruct them then all will be fine otherwise trouble is inevitable.

It is obvious that UNMIK are beginning to become redundant and Belgrade needs to take complete control of Serbian areas. Perhaps this will occur when SRS-DSS enter into power.

With the Yanks, the EU and UNMIK all saying different and contradictory things, it is obvious that they have all completely lost the plot.
Let the people vote!

"UNMIK: Serbian vote in Kosovo breaches 1244"

So is Kosovo's alleged UDI, but no one seems to be working to stop that, now are they?

well, the UNMIK-officials should better think it over twice whether they want to interfere in internal serbian affairs.

because, in case of the courthouse it was only a small eruption of the people´s will.

listen to what Mr.Lavrov said!

if there should be any outbreak of violence it´s clear that the very same UNMIK-officials who have ordered the take-over of the courthouse are responsible for it.

Is it me, or is there a double standard being processed?

Somehow, and quite magically, the Serbian vote breaches 1244, yet the same resolution that maintains Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo isn't being followed through, but rather tossed in the garbage.

Picking and choosing how and where 1244 will be implemented is a farce and only leads me to believe that it's a circus show.

To add insult to injury, the same spinmasters claiming the current breach of 1244 are the same people breaking the rules only when it applies to Serbian interests, and bending the rules fully when it applies to Albanian interests.

And if it's Athisaari's plan that the State Department is pushing through, doesn't that give the right for Serbian citizens to vote Northward anyways?? I mean, being a citizen of Serbia entitles you to vote doesn't it??

I honestly think that one hand doesn't know what the other one is doing..

talking of violation and breaching of 1244 violation act what did ethnic albanian's do by declaring illegal inderpendence on kosovo and thats not called violation and breaching of rules of 1244 resolution act!!! and when the serbs population in kosovo want to take part in there's country's voting schemes it's called violation's of 1244 resolution act!? its ridiculous how much injustice there is in the world today!!

Maks:

> Nothing can make Kosovo to be administred and included within Serbia's border.

As one of your compatriots said not so long ago, never say never.

> Worst senario would be north part of Kosovo to be like north part of Cyprus in limbo,

My opinion is that it will be the part of Kosovo south of the Ibar that will be in limbo.

Unrecognised by most of the world, by the UN, by the EU, & by other internationally recognised bodies.

And no spurious arguments referring to 'precedents being set' please - most would argue that such is hypocrisy coming from a supporter of the K-albanian UDI.

And bear in mind that the case of the citizens of Serbia north of the Ibar is different in any case.

In other cases, the 'would-be secessionists' are already part of an existing state AND have accepted membership in the existing state previously (either born there or nationalised).

Neither of these two criteria applies to the serbs in the north of Kosovo. They have NEVER accepted membership in the K-albanian pseudo-state & have ALWAYS considered themselves to be serbs living in Serbia.

> Bottom line is Kosovo's borders are unchangable.

Once again, more hypocrisy.

What makes Kosovo's borders inviolate?

Same principles that make Serbia's borders inviolate?

Your so-called 'republic of Kosovo' hasn't even been recognised by the UN - the very body whose concern this is.

And wasn't your so-called prime minister in the process of negotiations about this very issue not so long ago?

Oh & by-the-way, UNMIK has just stated that it won't stand in the way of parliamentary elections in the north - bad luck chum.

And your 'second-wave' of recognitions will be a damp squib. Better get used to that limbo you keep mentioning.

The K-serbs north of the Ibar are in the majority. Their part of Kosovo is adjacent to Serbia proper.

You claim the right for K-albanians to live in their own state, & yet deny it to the K-serbs in the north.

This is the ultimate hypocrisy.

Tell me please, what is your justification for this?

Does any resolution matter any more? America does what it wants, when it wants and however it wants.

Doesn't matter what Serbia, or Albania, or the EU, or anyone else wants. As long as the end serves America's interests, the means will always be "justified".

Sad but true.

The Albanians think they have an ally. Another sad but true fact is that _no one_ is America's ally. Just a stepping stone.

UNMIK will decide if Serbian citizens can vote in the Serbian election!!!! Absolutely ridiculous! So much for democracy.

Kosovo declares independence and the U.S. and NATO supports it with its soldiers and suppresses democracy.
China sends in its military to stop Tibetan independence. The U.S., NATO and the EU do nothing.
Double standards. Different rules for different countries.

Why? Because China is a Super Power and has nuclear weapons. The very sad lesson here is: if ALL Serbian citizens want to exercise their democratic right to vote without outside interference, Serbia must first build a powerful military and become a nuclear power.

This article can't be real - am I still dreaming? BREACHING 1244? Does this guy even know what the hell he is talking about? Bloody hell - trying to change Serbia's borders in the first place is breaching 1244. Oh my god - whats wrong with these people?

As our prime minister The Snake said it last week: The Serbs can vote for elections held in Serbia as double-nationals, like French people living in Switzerland :-) so why making such a hassle out of this very clear and simple situation. Let everybody interpret it how one wants. For Serbs the feeling that nothing has changed since declaration and for Albanians that double-nationals are voting for their second (first...whatever...) country.

I wonder if UN is going to respect resolution 1244.
Under this resolution UNMIK does not stop or help oranization of Serbian elections in Kosova,aslo UNMIK does not aknowledge the institutions that come out of these kind of elections.

Nothing can make Kosovo to be administred and included within Serbia's border. Worst senario would be north part of Kosovo to be like north part of Cyprus in limbo, but remember this limbo situation in ex-Yugoslavia is not going to be the same as North Cyprus because there is not just this but Srbska Republica and Krajina for Serbs, Herzegovina for Croats, Presevo and Western Macedonia for Albanian, Sandjak for Bosnian Muslims. Everyone of those regions want self-determiniation. Bottom line is Kosovo's borders are unchangable. If EU wants Serbian election in Kosovo UNMIK has all international legal power (As Serbs want to be respected !!!) to prevent those election. So as you see this case is not that easy. It is about time when Serbia will realise that after May 11 nomatter who win the second wave of recognition will follow and that will make things clear for good.

I guess NO serbian elections in Kosova eh?

There is an old saying which describes UN and it's way of handling things to the T. Translated and purify it the saying refers to an act performed by a crazy one on a confused one, UN yet again managing to fulfill both roles, crazy and confused plus a very, very dishonest. Not sure if they even realize that UN itself is fighting for it's life and failure to do the right think in KosovO will cause that organization to be completely marginalized (even more than now) than abolished. As far as elections go, Serbs in Serbia. Albanians as citizens of Serbia can vote or not, it's their right in the democracy that Serbia is.

"Unrecognised by most of the world, by the UN, by the EU, & by other internationally recognised bodies."
(peter, sydney, 9 April 2008 17:12)

1878-1815 = 63.
It took Serbia 63 years to get recognized by everybody and become really independent.
The patience of your ancestors could be taken as an example by the Albanians. Talking about precedents..
Today things are much different from then, but I hope you can understand what I mean.

Dear all,

Although the 1244 is so flexible and is open unforotunatley for any interpretation, so things are clear. Kosovo citizens cannot vote within Kosovo for another state. If they like they can go and vote in Serbia.

You have to sense new reality, whether you like it or not. Kosovo state is accepted by countries from 5 continents, and the UN Security Council could not come to conclusion to reverse it...THIS IS A FACT.

In addition, it ia against Kosovo constitution to allow Kosovo citizens to vote for elections of other countries...

I am wondering if the UN perhaps keeps any kind of records/statistics on which of the SC Resolutions has been most misused??? I bet it's 1244. Every party involved in Kosovo issue uses it and calls on it only when it suits them to do something that is not for the benefit of all. If only they had used and referred to it this much right after it was enforced. I am convinced things would have been much different and better for all today.

(di carlo) 'in this transitional period'

where are you coming from ms.dicarlo?
these puppets' masters don't even know what their puppets are saying. pathetic

"illegal UDI"

How can a declaration be illegal. At most it can be unrealistic but no illegal. One could declare itself to be the king of France. Is that illegal? No it is unrealistic and out of this world but not illegal. A declaration is just that, a declaration. Hence it can't be illegal. Now if you considered the recognition of this declaration by other as illegal, then that is an argument u can make. But then again Serbia in 1912 considered the declaration of Albania as illegal and that " Old Serbia" was unjustly ripped away from Serbia. So nothing new when it comes to this.

As an outside objective observer here and an employed Historian, the West is in trouble with more U.N. states openly opposed to recognition of 'kosova' than supporting. The British press is printing nothing. Del ponti's shocking revelation of organ removal from kidnapped Serbs did not even feature on the B.B.C., never mind make the Liberal 'heavies'. There are two security council members refusing to recognise the new so-called state. This is a serious an fluid situation.
We donot need hatred. Respect for all the communities living there and may the sincere and genuine sections of the respective populations take the situation in hand. And god willing, find solutions to live together. There is no other solution!

shqarthi:

If it makes you feel better to cite the length time it took for the recognition of Serbia in the 19th century, you are most welcome to do so.

The reality however is that we are living in the 21st century & can communicate with anyone anywhere just by picking up a phone & can read & see the news as it is happening anywhere just by turning on a computer.

Talking about precedents.. It took weeks for a message to cross the globe back then. Now it takes a fraction of a second. So using this as a yardstick, 63 years in todays's terms is what precisely?

20 minutes?

A nonsense argument of course, but it serves to highlight the meaninglessness of using anything that happened in the 19th century as a precedent.

As for whether or not general recognition will ever happen in the future?

If things stay the same, then perhaps.

But things NEVER stay the same. To use the figure you quoted, albeit in an entirely different context, 63yrs ago in 1945, the world was a very different place.

What will it be like in 2071 when oil supplies are exhausted & global warming is THE issue concerning us?

I have no idea - But it will certainly not be the same.


PRN:

Seems you are wrong once again. Both parliamentary & local elections will be going ahead. With the later under the auspices of UNMIK as mandated in resolution 1244.

And as long as human rights are ignored in Kosovo, your so-called constitution is worthless.


teesy:

Del Ponte's revelations are now coming out in the western press - have just read an article in the Wall Street Journal. Also various UK & Australian papers.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120812796372611429.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

A solution can never be found as long as one party continues to live in a state of denial about past atrocities.

Ten years ago, such was the case with the serbs. Since then Serbia has made progress in this - most serbs acknowledge the crimes commited in their name during the Milosevic years & have moved on.

This is in general however, not the case with K-albanians.

As long as they flatly refuse to admit even the possibility of del Pontes allegations & the crimes commited by the likes of Haradinaj, reconciliation of any sort is an impossibility.

And any discussion about the human rights of minorities in Kosovo meaningless.

regards

Nothing can make Kosovo to be administred and included within Serbia's border. Worst senario would be north part of Kosovo to be like north part of Cyprus in limbo, but remember this limbo situation in ex-Yugoslavia is not going to be the same as North Cyprus because there is not just this but Srbska Republica and Krajina for Serbs, Herzegovina for Croats, Presevo and Western Macedonia for Albanian, Sandjak for Bosnian Muslims. Everyone of those regions want self-determiniation. Bottom line is Kosovo's borders are unchangable. If EU wants Serbian election in Kosovo UNMIK has all international legal power (As Serbs want to be respected !!!) to prevent those election. So as you see this case is not that easy. It is about time when Serbia will realise that after May 11 nomatter who win the second wave of recognition will follow and that will make things clear for good.

I wonder if UN is going to respect resolution 1244.
Under this resolution UNMIK does not stop or help oranization of Serbian elections in Kosova,aslo UNMIK does not aknowledge the institutions that come out of these kind of elections.

I guess NO serbian elections in Kosova eh?

The Resolution 1244 should be disolved and flushed down the toilet. The 1244 has been breached numerous times since the inception and should be flushed down the toilet. As a matter of fact every international law has been breached.
The Serbian, Russian and Chinese armies should then enter and retake Kosovo with force. Time for some Serbian
"shock and awe" in Kosovo
This is the only way to get the trash out of Kosovo. As they say in the USA
"Might is right"
"The strong will prevail"
"Nice guys finish last"

"Unrecognised by most of the world, by the UN, by the EU, & by other internationally recognised bodies."
(peter, sydney, 9 April 2008 17:12)

1878-1815 = 63.
It took Serbia 63 years to get recognized by everybody and become really independent.
The patience of your ancestors could be taken as an example by the Albanians. Talking about precedents..
Today things are much different from then, but I hope you can understand what I mean.

“A senior State Department official says that UNMIK will decide whether Serbian elections will be held in Kosovo.”

If not UNMIK, then the EU mission. If not them, then NATO or the Contact Group.

One thing at least is certain, Albanians will decide nothing in their “Independent Kosova.”

"illegal UDI"

How can a declaration be illegal. At most it can be unrealistic but no illegal. One could declare itself to be the king of France. Is that illegal? No it is unrealistic and out of this world but not illegal. A declaration is just that, a declaration. Hence it can't be illegal. Now if you considered the recognition of this declaration by other as illegal, then that is an argument u can make. But then again Serbia in 1912 considered the declaration of Albania as illegal and that " Old Serbia" was unjustly ripped away from Serbia. So nothing new when it comes to this.

Dear all,

Although the 1244 is so flexible and is open unforotunatley for any interpretation, so things are clear. Kosovo citizens cannot vote within Kosovo for another state. If they like they can go and vote in Serbia.

You have to sense new reality, whether you like it or not. Kosovo state is accepted by countries from 5 continents, and the UN Security Council could not come to conclusion to reverse it...THIS IS A FACT.

In addition, it ia against Kosovo constitution to allow Kosovo citizens to vote for elections of other countries...

"And we hope that a solution will be found in the near future,” Di Carlo said
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It's nice to hear the US admitting the solution in place is not final. I can tell her that the only acceptable one will be "more than autonomy and less than independence". It will be more than the Albanians have now and since the puppet strings are firmly attached, they will have no choice but to accept.

It is just a matter of time for the US to realise it is going nowhere with its currently policy.

This is what Solana said yesterday:
> He added that “the local elections on May 11 will be very important because they’re being held for the first time in northern Kosovo.“

And this is what is said in the article above:
> A senior State Department official says that UNMIK will decide whether Serbian elections will be held in Kosovo.

Seems that the 'interpretation' of UN resolution 1244 with regard to holding elections in Kosovo varies depending on who is doing the interpreting.

As 'Princip' would say.. Oh what a tangled web we weave...

US official goes on to say:
> She underlined the importance of respecting international institutions in Kosovo—the UN, KFOR, and the EU mission that was being established.

EU mission has not received authorisation from the UN, nor does it have the agreement from Belgrade for its deployment. As such it is illegal, & in effect, an occupying force.

All the above is immaterial anyway. If K-albanians can hold elections for their purposes, so can the K-serbs. Is impossible to stop without draconian use of force.

“The Contact Group unanimously believes that local elections should not be held in Kosovo,” explained the spokesman."

Unanimous??? Another blatant lie! As I understand it, Moscow is still part of the Contact Group -- and the newly elected incoming Russian president has just declared that K-Serbs have the right to vote come May 11!

well, the UNMIK-officials should better think it over twice whether they want to interfere in internal serbian affairs.

because, in case of the courthouse it was only a small eruption of the people´s will.

listen to what Mr.Lavrov said!

if there should be any outbreak of violence it´s clear that the very same UNMIK-officials who have ordered the take-over of the courthouse are responsible for it.

He said that UNMIK’s position on parliamentary elections remained as before—“we don’t support them, but we won’t obstruct them.”
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Blah Blah Blah, so long as you don't obstruct them then all will be fine otherwise trouble is inevitable.

It is obvious that UNMIK are beginning to become redundant and Belgrade needs to take complete control of Serbian areas. Perhaps this will occur when SRS-DSS enter into power.

Isn't Kosovo part of Serbia as outlined in Resolution 1244? As an inalienable component of Serbia, don't the citizens of Kosovo have a right to vote in the Serbian elections? The Western governments that authored the resolution wouldn't want to be seen as obstructing democracy now, would they?

Now speaking of breaches of Resolution 1244. . .doesn't the illegal UDI infringe upon the accord?

How about the opening of foreign embassies? Or the position of war criminals as elected officials?

Aren't these violations of the resolution?

One more question. . .when is this Eurocrat circus going to end already?!?

Is it me, or is there a double standard being processed?

Somehow, and quite magically, the Serbian vote breaches 1244, yet the same resolution that maintains Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo isn't being followed through, but rather tossed in the garbage.

Picking and choosing how and where 1244 will be implemented is a farce and only leads me to believe that it's a circus show.

To add insult to injury, the same spinmasters claiming the current breach of 1244 are the same people breaking the rules only when it applies to Serbian interests, and bending the rules fully when it applies to Albanian interests.

And if it's Athisaari's plan that the State Department is pushing through, doesn't that give the right for Serbian citizens to vote Northward anyways?? I mean, being a citizen of Serbia entitles you to vote doesn't it??

I honestly think that one hand doesn't know what the other one is doing..

talking of violation and breaching of 1244 violation act what did ethnic albanian's do by declaring illegal inderpendence on kosovo and thats not called violation and breaching of rules of 1244 resolution act!!! and when the serbs population in kosovo want to take part in there's country's voting schemes it's called violation's of 1244 resolution act!? its ridiculous how much injustice there is in the world today!!

With the Yanks, the EU and UNMIK all saying different and contradictory things, it is obvious that they have all completely lost the plot.
Let the people vote!

Maks:

> Nothing can make Kosovo to be administred and included within Serbia's border.

As one of your compatriots said not so long ago, never say never.

> Worst senario would be north part of Kosovo to be like north part of Cyprus in limbo,

My opinion is that it will be the part of Kosovo south of the Ibar that will be in limbo.

Unrecognised by most of the world, by the UN, by the EU, & by other internationally recognised bodies.

And no spurious arguments referring to 'precedents being set' please - most would argue that such is hypocrisy coming from a supporter of the K-albanian UDI.

And bear in mind that the case of the citizens of Serbia north of the Ibar is different in any case.

In other cases, the 'would-be secessionists' are already part of an existing state AND have accepted membership in the existing state previously (either born there or nationalised).

Neither of these two criteria applies to the serbs in the north of Kosovo. They have NEVER accepted membership in the K-albanian pseudo-state & have ALWAYS considered themselves to be serbs living in Serbia.

> Bottom line is Kosovo's borders are unchangable.

Once again, more hypocrisy.

What makes Kosovo's borders inviolate?

Same principles that make Serbia's borders inviolate?

Your so-called 'republic of Kosovo' hasn't even been recognised by the UN - the very body whose concern this is.

And wasn't your so-called prime minister in the process of negotiations about this very issue not so long ago?

Oh & by-the-way, UNMIK has just stated that it won't stand in the way of parliamentary elections in the north - bad luck chum.

And your 'second-wave' of recognitions will be a damp squib. Better get used to that limbo you keep mentioning.

The K-serbs north of the Ibar are in the majority. Their part of Kosovo is adjacent to Serbia proper.

You claim the right for K-albanians to live in their own state, & yet deny it to the K-serbs in the north.

This is the ultimate hypocrisy.

Tell me please, what is your justification for this?

"UNMIK: Serbian vote in Kosovo breaches 1244"

So is Kosovo's alleged UDI, but no one seems to be working to stop that, now are they?

Does any resolution matter any more? America does what it wants, when it wants and however it wants.

Doesn't matter what Serbia, or Albania, or the EU, or anyone else wants. As long as the end serves America's interests, the means will always be "justified".

Sad but true.

The Albanians think they have an ally. Another sad but true fact is that _no one_ is America's ally. Just a stepping stone.

As our prime minister The Snake said it last week: The Serbs can vote for elections held in Serbia as double-nationals, like French people living in Switzerland :-) so why making such a hassle out of this very clear and simple situation. Let everybody interpret it how one wants. For Serbs the feeling that nothing has changed since declaration and for Albanians that double-nationals are voting for their second (first...whatever...) country.

The issue of Serbian elections is just one of hundreds of tricky issues the Americans and their allies will have to deal with following their “recognition” of Kosovo’s independence.

Another issue is that of Camp Bondsteel. It was the Serbian government that granted the Americans a 100 year lease on the land on which Bondsteel was built. The Americans pay an annual rent to the Serbian government for this land.

What is going to happen now that the Americans have “recognised” Kosovo independence? Are they going to continue paying Serbia rent for Bondsteel? If they do, then they clearly still respect Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo. If they don’t, then they are in breach of contract and the Serbian government can annul the lease and demand their eviction. There are international courts which will rule in Serbia’s favour on this issue.

As Sir Walter Scot so famously put it:

"Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!"

There is an old saying which describes UN and it's way of handling things to the T. Translated and purify it the saying refers to an act performed by a crazy one on a confused one, UN yet again managing to fulfill both roles, crazy and confused plus a very, very dishonest. Not sure if they even realize that UN itself is fighting for it's life and failure to do the right think in KosovO will cause that organization to be completely marginalized (even more than now) than abolished. As far as elections go, Serbs in Serbia. Albanians as citizens of Serbia can vote or not, it's their right in the democracy that Serbia is.

I am wondering if the UN perhaps keeps any kind of records/statistics on which of the SC Resolutions has been most misused??? I bet it's 1244. Every party involved in Kosovo issue uses it and calls on it only when it suits them to do something that is not for the benefit of all. If only they had used and referred to it this much right after it was enforced. I am convinced things would have been much different and better for all today.

The new constitution most definitely breaches 1244, these Serbian elections do not because they are a reasonable requirement of any nation state. Given that the territorial integrity of Serbia is guaranteed by several laws (not just 1244) it is right for Serbia to run these elections.

I am in agreement that it is time that 1244 was used in Serbia's favour rather than as a stick to beat it.

Serbia has every right to defend its territory from the illegal UDI despite 1244 that may imply that they do not have a right to do so. You cannont breach the rule then use the rule to stop the enforcement of the rule.

Serbia should establish its presence throughout Kosovo by sending in its police - whatever the consequences.

The west has been treating Serbia like dirt - it is time to call their bluff.

UNMIK will decide if Serbian citizens can vote in the Serbian election!!!! Absolutely ridiculous! So much for democracy.

Kosovo declares independence and the U.S. and NATO supports it with its soldiers and suppresses democracy.
China sends in its military to stop Tibetan independence. The U.S., NATO and the EU do nothing.
Double standards. Different rules for different countries.

Why? Because China is a Super Power and has nuclear weapons. The very sad lesson here is: if ALL Serbian citizens want to exercise their democratic right to vote without outside interference, Serbia must first build a powerful military and become a nuclear power.

This article can't be real - am I still dreaming? BREACHING 1244? Does this guy even know what the hell he is talking about? Bloody hell - trying to change Serbia's borders in the first place is breaching 1244. Oh my god - whats wrong with these people?

(di carlo) 'in this transitional period'

where are you coming from ms.dicarlo?
these puppets' masters don't even know what their puppets are saying. pathetic

As an outside objective observer here and an employed Historian, the West is in trouble with more U.N. states openly opposed to recognition of 'kosova' than supporting. The British press is printing nothing. Del ponti's shocking revelation of organ removal from kidnapped Serbs did not even feature on the B.B.C., never mind make the Liberal 'heavies'. There are two security council members refusing to recognise the new so-called state. This is a serious an fluid situation.
We donot need hatred. Respect for all the communities living there and may the sincere and genuine sections of the respective populations take the situation in hand. And god willing, find solutions to live together. There is no other solution!

shqarthi:

If it makes you feel better to cite the length time it took for the recognition of Serbia in the 19th century, you are most welcome to do so.

The reality however is that we are living in the 21st century & can communicate with anyone anywhere just by picking up a phone & can read & see the news as it is happening anywhere just by turning on a computer.

Talking about precedents.. It took weeks for a message to cross the globe back then. Now it takes a fraction of a second. So using this as a yardstick, 63 years in todays's terms is what precisely?

20 minutes?

A nonsense argument of course, but it serves to highlight the meaninglessness of using anything that happened in the 19th century as a precedent.

As for whether or not general recognition will ever happen in the future?

If things stay the same, then perhaps.

But things NEVER stay the same. To use the figure you quoted, albeit in an entirely different context, 63yrs ago in 1945, the world was a very different place.

What will it be like in 2071 when oil supplies are exhausted & global warming is THE issue concerning us?

I have no idea - But it will certainly not be the same.


PRN:

Seems you are wrong once again. Both parliamentary & local elections will be going ahead. With the later under the auspices of UNMIK as mandated in resolution 1244.

And as long as human rights are ignored in Kosovo, your so-called constitution is worthless.


teesy:

Del Ponte's revelations are now coming out in the western press - have just read an article in the Wall Street Journal. Also various UK & Australian papers.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120812796372611429.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

A solution can never be found as long as one party continues to live in a state of denial about past atrocities.

Ten years ago, such was the case with the serbs. Since then Serbia has made progress in this - most serbs acknowledge the crimes commited in their name during the Milosevic years & have moved on.

This is in general however, not the case with K-albanians.

As long as they flatly refuse to admit even the possibility of del Pontes allegations & the crimes commited by the likes of Haradinaj, reconciliation of any sort is an impossibility.

And any discussion about the human rights of minorities in Kosovo meaningless.

regards