President denies EU has new conditions

So, an anonymous source close to the president says there are no new conditions to joining the EU.

But why does it matter in any case?

The EU is not offering Serbia entry now or in the near future. The EU is not even offering Serbia a full Stabilisation and Association Agreement (SAA). All it is offering is a meaningless piece of paper and visa-less travel.

Unless the Dutch (and Belgian) governments drop their demands regarding Mladic and Karadzic, or Tadic and DS have the ability and intention to hand them to the Hague, Serbia is nowhere near to joining the EU.

When are the people of Serbia going to wake up and realise this lie that DS is selling. The election on 11 May is NOT about EU. There is no choice between EU or Kosovo. The EU is not a possibility. The DS is selling a policy/product which it does not possess.

The EU doesn't want Serbia unless it hands over Mladic, Karadzic and Kosovo.

Oh dear haven't DS worked it out yet ? I thought these guys were meant to be competent (certainly Bganon belives they have economic competency) but they are deluding themselves and the Serbian electorate if they cant comprehend nor understand that the EU is using its 'diplomatic' cloak when these foriegn Ministers suggest quite openly that Serbia will have to accept the illegal EULEX and partition & dismemberment if it wants to be an EU member. This is nothing new the EUcratic circles have been mentioning new conditions for new members for months and this should be no surprise to DS.

Why DS cant comprehend their EU 'friends' message is strange to say the least - you would have thought they would be more alert when the EUcrats secretly agreed the illegal INLEX (Lawless) Kosovo mission the Friday prior to Presidential elections and announced it the day after the vote!

DS wake up before you have stab wounds in your backs and cry "Et tu EU"

The Serbian electorate will not be willing to go along with this EU deception even if DS would!

Peter Sudyka,

You said...
"Kosovo is not one of the conditions for EU entry for Serbia, because the EU does not have a common stance on Kosovo, considering that some countries in the EU will not or still have not recognized Kosovo's independence."

That is a most incredibly naive statement or another deliberate attempt to deceive the Serbian voters.

4 EU members states have said they will not recognise Pristina's independence. But there are about 20 EU member states that have already officially done so. The fact that the EU (as an organisation) has not made a de jure recognition is irrelevant, they have made a clear de facto recognition of Pristina's sovereignty by sending the EULEX mission to support Pristina as of June.

Secondly, the EU will NEVER allow a state to join the organisation that has a significant territorial dispute with a neighbour. 4 states may not allow Kosovo to become a member of EU, 20 will block Serbia!!!

That is part of the lie that the DS is selling in Serbia. The DS does NOT offer a quicker entry into the EU than the DSS unless it is planning to arrest and hand-over Mladic, Karadzic and to accept Kosovo as independent. They say it is better to fight for Kosovo inside the EU - but they will never get into EU if they are fighting for Kosovo. Catch-22 or deliberate lie?

The EU has the right to put conditions to Serbia because it is Serbia that wants to join the club. If Serbia accepts these conditions, fine. If not, Serbia will remain outside the EU while all its neighbours will be EU member states. Serbia has to choose: isolation or the statute of an EU member state.
(Mircea, 8 April 2008 09:57)

So Mircea, let me get this straight, What you are saying is that Serbia should role over and die and accept its destruction and dismemberment.

I think you will be waiting a long time.

Tadic is probably right. I'd say he has known about these conditions for quite some time so they are probably not new to him.

Willie Garvin

Kosovo is not one of the conditions for EU entry for Serbia, because the EU does not have a common stance on Kosovo, considering that some countries in the EU will not or still have not recognized Kosovo's independence.

I believe Kosovo has more to worry about, considering Greece, Romania, Cyprus and Slovakia are against recognition of independence.

Mircea, It's Tadic & and co that want the EU. Doing our own thing is better than being another string for the puppet masters of the EU to pull on. I think Serbia will choose right this time.

Mircea,

"…EU … conditions to Serbia …. isolation …"

We are already familiar with your take on the issue, you repeated it many times already, but you are completely wrong, on all aspects.

First of all, question of eventual membership in EU - if EU is a democratic organization as they claim they are, then, eventual joining is a matter of NEGOTIATIONS, not capitulation to their dictate or else…

Where did you get idea that countries that are not members of EU are isolated?

Would you support Romanian membership in EU if they demanded that you let Transylvania seperate from Romania first?

The EU has the right to put conditions to Serbia because it is Serbia that wants to join the club. If Serbia accepts these conditions, fine. If not, Serbia will remain outside the EU while all its neighbours will be EU member states. Serbia has to choose: isolation or the statute of an EU member state.

For Niall, Tom and other Irishmen: I think you should stop worrying about Serbia and concentrate on your country, Ireland. First, try to recover Northern Ireland from the British!

"… Serbian people will know the truth what EU and Western think about Kosovo…"

Maks, we Serbs are very much aware of the intentions of US and couple of European powers to destroy us. Empire wants to conquer the Serbs. We will resist as we always did, despite the fact that they are much stronger then we are. Nothing new under the sun.

"…who stood against the supreme power of the world …"

Peter, you described it very well, exactly as it is. Mongols were at least honest about their intentions, they didn't try to lie their agenda through. (You know all these stories about saving souls of the savages, spreading civilization, protecting human rights, whatever is the current fashion, as these various western empire builders did / do tell).

Luigi, Italy is nice country, don't be so harsh.

The EU has the right to put conditions to Serbia because it is Serbia that wants to join the club. If Serbia accepts these conditions, fine. If not, Serbia will remain outside the EU while all its neighbours will be EU member states. Serbia has to choose: isolation or the statute of an EU member state.

For Niall, Tom and other Irishmen: I think you should stop worrying about Serbia and concentrate on your country, Ireland. First, try to recover Northern Ireland from the British!

Oh dear haven't DS worked it out yet ? I thought these guys were meant to be competent (certainly Bganon belives they have economic competency) but they are deluding themselves and the Serbian electorate if they cant comprehend nor understand that the EU is using its 'diplomatic' cloak when these foriegn Ministers suggest quite openly that Serbia will have to accept the illegal EULEX and partition & dismemberment if it wants to be an EU member. This is nothing new the EUcratic circles have been mentioning new conditions for new members for months and this should be no surprise to DS.

Why DS cant comprehend their EU 'friends' message is strange to say the least - you would have thought they would be more alert when the EUcrats secretly agreed the illegal INLEX (Lawless) Kosovo mission the Friday prior to Presidential elections and announced it the day after the vote!

DS wake up before you have stab wounds in your backs and cry "Et tu EU"

The Serbian electorate will not be willing to go along with this EU deception even if DS would!

So, an anonymous source close to the president says there are no new conditions to joining the EU.

But why does it matter in any case?

The EU is not offering Serbia entry now or in the near future. The EU is not even offering Serbia a full Stabilisation and Association Agreement (SAA). All it is offering is a meaningless piece of paper and visa-less travel.

Unless the Dutch (and Belgian) governments drop their demands regarding Mladic and Karadzic, or Tadic and DS have the ability and intention to hand them to the Hague, Serbia is nowhere near to joining the EU.

When are the people of Serbia going to wake up and realise this lie that DS is selling. The election on 11 May is NOT about EU. There is no choice between EU or Kosovo. The EU is not a possibility. The DS is selling a policy/product which it does not possess.

The EU doesn't want Serbia unless it hands over Mladic, Karadzic and Kosovo.

Willie Garvin

Kosovo is not one of the conditions for EU entry for Serbia, because the EU does not have a common stance on Kosovo, considering that some countries in the EU will not or still have not recognized Kosovo's independence.

I believe Kosovo has more to worry about, considering Greece, Romania, Cyprus and Slovakia are against recognition of independence.

The EU has the right to put conditions to Serbia because it is Serbia that wants to join the club. If Serbia accepts these conditions, fine. If not, Serbia will remain outside the EU while all its neighbours will be EU member states. Serbia has to choose: isolation or the statute of an EU member state.
(Mircea, 8 April 2008 09:57)

So Mircea, let me get this straight, What you are saying is that Serbia should role over and die and accept its destruction and dismemberment.

I think you will be waiting a long time.

Tadic is probably right. I'd say he has known about these conditions for quite some time so they are probably not new to him.

Mircea, It's Tadic & and co that want the EU. Doing our own thing is better than being another string for the puppet masters of the EU to pull on. I think Serbia will choose right this time.

Mircea,

"…EU … conditions to Serbia …. isolation …"

We are already familiar with your take on the issue, you repeated it many times already, but you are completely wrong, on all aspects.

First of all, question of eventual membership in EU - if EU is a democratic organization as they claim they are, then, eventual joining is a matter of NEGOTIATIONS, not capitulation to their dictate or else…

Where did you get idea that countries that are not members of EU are isolated?

Would you support Romanian membership in EU if they demanded that you let Transylvania seperate from Romania first?

"… Serbian people will know the truth what EU and Western think about Kosovo…"

Maks, we Serbs are very much aware of the intentions of US and couple of European powers to destroy us. Empire wants to conquer the Serbs. We will resist as we always did, despite the fact that they are much stronger then we are. Nothing new under the sun.

"…who stood against the supreme power of the world …"

Peter, you described it very well, exactly as it is. Mongols were at least honest about their intentions, they didn't try to lie their agenda through. (You know all these stories about saving souls of the savages, spreading civilization, protecting human rights, whatever is the current fashion, as these various western empire builders did / do tell).

Luigi, Italy is nice country, don't be so harsh.

Peter Sudyka,

You said...
"Kosovo is not one of the conditions for EU entry for Serbia, because the EU does not have a common stance on Kosovo, considering that some countries in the EU will not or still have not recognized Kosovo's independence."

That is a most incredibly naive statement or another deliberate attempt to deceive the Serbian voters.

4 EU members states have said they will not recognise Pristina's independence. But there are about 20 EU member states that have already officially done so. The fact that the EU (as an organisation) has not made a de jure recognition is irrelevant, they have made a clear de facto recognition of Pristina's sovereignty by sending the EULEX mission to support Pristina as of June.

Secondly, the EU will NEVER allow a state to join the organisation that has a significant territorial dispute with a neighbour. 4 states may not allow Kosovo to become a member of EU, 20 will block Serbia!!!

That is part of the lie that the DS is selling in Serbia. The DS does NOT offer a quicker entry into the EU than the DSS unless it is planning to arrest and hand-over Mladic, Karadzic and to accept Kosovo as independent. They say it is better to fight for Kosovo inside the EU - but they will never get into EU if they are fighting for Kosovo. Catch-22 or deliberate lie?