Bush, Sanader for faster EU integration

If anyone needs any convincing about what NATO means for Serbia, have a read of this from Reuters....

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Speaking in Zagreb's historic St. Mark's square in front of a 15th century church, Bush said Croatia had known tyranny, war and occupation in its past.

"Americans admire your courage and admire your persistence, and we look forward to welcoming you as a partner in NATO," he told the Croats.

"Henceforth, should any danger threaten your people, America and the alliance will stand with you and no one will be able to take your freedom away," he said, to loud cheers.
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I'm disgusted... as a Krajina Serb living in a foreign land now thanks to "Croatian and American democracy", I am now told that I am the aggressor for defending my home where I was born and I will be smashed if I dare challenge the status quo that has brought my people such misery.

The injustice and hypocracy of it all is unbearable.....

We can only pray that one day all this will change.... and it will George, it will.... I only hope I live to see it.

I am very surprised that noone noticed this phrase:
"...We hope also that a free and prosperous Serbia will soon find the place it deserves in the European family, and live in peace with its neighbors,” said Bush..."
So according to bush, Serbia is not a free country.

By the way, for the proud Joe, your president finally was aknowledged for his actions on this planet. After he achieved none of the 3 goals he had for Bucharest summit, now the FYROMians are going to name Skopian main park to G.W.Bush.
He finally managed to find the first country that loves him, including his own :)

Even Americans who elected Bush...twice...have little respect for his opinions these days (his approval rating is low, so low that going any lower would mean that even his family is no longer supporting him). It's only fitting that after miserable failure in Romania, where the wished of "most powerful man in the world" were completely ignored, he found a friendly ear in Croatia. Wander if Croatians created a swastika using their own bodies as they tend to do in the heat of passion when political posturing is set aside and true colors and commitments surface.

Does not the picture look like Boris Tadic with Ivo Sanader instead of Bush very strange.

I feel for your plight, and the plight of people just like you. Unfortunately, your plight is the result of a catastrophic Milosevic policy. You were manipulated and coerced. If you have peace and reconciliation in your heart, you're always welcome back to Croatia... it is your homeland. There are, of course, catches... but you can't address those over a B92 bulletin board. You need to be there.

Joe,

Oh yes, George W. Bush will be remembered. But only for starting a war in Iraq because weapons of mass destruction that did not exist....

Hey Joe
So you are that one guy left still supporting Bush :-) That means that your loved one has not been sent to kill or be killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, you avoided losing your job and/or having your home foreclosed, your investments have not plummeted in value and weak $ did not make all the quality products (non US made) unaffordable for you. You are the lucky one. Count your blessings and enjoy your president, the rest of the world has no use for him. (or maybe you are just another Albanian who is ashamed of who he is and pretending to be somebody else)

My president, George Bush whom a fully support accomplished 2 of his 3 main goals in Bucarest. The third goal, the invitation of the Ukraine and Georgia will come in December or during the presidency of John McCain. Bush will be remembered as the brave US president, who helped the spread of democracy in Eastern Europe and defended human rights in that area.

Joe

George Bush did nothing to spread democracy in Eastern Europe, he has left a mess in Kosovo that has not solved any issues that needed to be solved. Aside from that, he is disliked all over the world, including Europe, for being aggressive, imperialist and known for lacking the intelligence that is expected from the average politician.

Obviously he wants Georgia and Ukraine in NATO, because he does not care in the slightest for global security or European interests (eg. France and Germany, those most against the ascension), due to their relations and trade with Russia. What do America care, they are on the other side of the world, Europe matters nothing to them, does it?

First there must be success in Iraq and Afghanistan to prove any success of the Bush cadence, because Kosovo is in no way a success, and his gambling in Europe is only making Europeans hate him even more than they ever did.

Kristen- with regards to your insults and I do consider them insults. I visited Croatia with a Serbian friend, Dubrovnik, my native language is English, I am English, My father is English as was his, yet I was accosted in a shop for speaking English when they thought I was Serbian, it was not nice. I have never ever suffered this sort of persecution in Serbia even though they have the right.

So before you go throwing mud let me inform you that your oh so wonderful Croats have a very nasty racist streak and I know because I experienced it.

Kristen- Wasn't it Croats that destroyed that wonderful bridge at Mostar becuase it linked the two communities?

I think we should all look at ourselves before we go pointing fingers at others.

My krajina serb friend. You should re-educate yourself over the cause of the war in croatia. Defending homes, I think not, more like your kind wanting to live in an ethnically pure state and not a multi-ethnic one which would have been the case if you hadn't cleansed "krajina" of all Croats and committed heinous crimes in Vukovar.

God Bless America & Croatia!

Jim-UK, how a very romantic view of you regarding the Mostar bridge. however reality was that if anything it prevented a wider war. Im not saying thats why it was blown up, because it wasnt. In any case, bridges are rebuilt as we have seen...so to use a blown up bridge to prove a point is a bit far fetched. I mean there are other examples you could have used to make your point.

Jim UK - as an english man, you should be used to abuse, wherever u turn....been in Highlands lately and advertised you were english?

Commentator definately needs to look at the effect of its own RSK leadership at the plight of Krajina Serbs. There is not much point in playing with a hot stove and then complain once you get burnt. easy to say ur a victim after losing the way, but lets not forget the 100,000 croatians cleansed out of Krajina before Oluja. RSK leadership went down a self-destructive pat..it gambled, it lost. The anger should be channeled there.

Peter,

Most Europeans are terribly selfish but nobody can outdo the Germans in selfnishness.

When it comes to "Geschaft" with Russia Merkel, Schroeder or Beck are all the same. In the case of accepting Ukraine and Georgia even the French were more reasonable.
Well in the still enfolding global financial crisis I hope they will get their share after all. The latest is that the Dresner Bank had losses - not yet published - much bigger than anybody thought. It looks like "dead bodies" will still come up in the next few months.

Will-So are you saying that because I'm English that I should expect to be abused as a matter of race?

As for your example of the Highlands, I think you watch Braveheart too often, we have good relationships with the Scots and indeed it was a Scottish king that formed the British union.

If you knew much about our country you would have chosen north Wales to pick as an example but of course you are a man of contradictions where even bridges are concerned. And yes I could have used other examples against the Croats, I could bring up attrocities going back to world war 2, but my main point was that there's nothing to be gained ponting fingers at others, especially till we're prepared to look at ourselves.

From personal experience I wrote that I have been persecuted in Croatia and never in Serbia, but according to you it seems that's ok because I am English !

I will be more than happy to inform English people that might be thinking of going to Croatia that there it's considered ok to abuse us.

"I will be more than happy to inform English people that might be thinking of going to Croatia that there it's considered ok to abuse us."

Jim-UK: This is absolutely true. I'm American, as is my wife. We can't count the number of times we've been mocked and harrassed on the Croatian coast, both by its residents and officials. For instance, a group of girls overhears my wife telling our American friends how to order a beer in Croatian, and begin making fun of her for not speaking the language fluently. During the height of tourist season, a police officer at the entrance of Split airport's parking lot detained us and confiscated our passports because we made a wrong turn in our car. Our American friends can hardly believe us when we tell them we've never gotten such treatment in Serbia - until they visit us there and see that it's true. We've had more than 15 guests between 2004-2007 experience this.

We get the message loud and clear: foreigners' money is welcome in Croatia. Foreigners are not welcome. We'll take our business elsewhere in the future, and will always recommend the same to our visiting friends.

I feel for your plight, and the plight of people just like you. Unfortunately, your plight is the result of a catastrophic Milosevic policy. You were manipulated and coerced. If you have peace and reconciliation in your heart, you're always welcome back to Croatia... it is your homeland. There are, of course, catches... but you can't address those over a B92 bulletin board. You need to be there.

If anyone needs any convincing about what NATO means for Serbia, have a read of this from Reuters....

**
Speaking in Zagreb's historic St. Mark's square in front of a 15th century church, Bush said Croatia had known tyranny, war and occupation in its past.

"Americans admire your courage and admire your persistence, and we look forward to welcoming you as a partner in NATO," he told the Croats.

"Henceforth, should any danger threaten your people, America and the alliance will stand with you and no one will be able to take your freedom away," he said, to loud cheers.
**

I'm disgusted... as a Krajina Serb living in a foreign land now thanks to "Croatian and American democracy", I am now told that I am the aggressor for defending my home where I was born and I will be smashed if I dare challenge the status quo that has brought my people such misery.

The injustice and hypocracy of it all is unbearable.....

We can only pray that one day all this will change.... and it will George, it will.... I only hope I live to see it.

Even Americans who elected Bush...twice...have little respect for his opinions these days (his approval rating is low, so low that going any lower would mean that even his family is no longer supporting him). It's only fitting that after miserable failure in Romania, where the wished of "most powerful man in the world" were completely ignored, he found a friendly ear in Croatia. Wander if Croatians created a swastika using their own bodies as they tend to do in the heat of passion when political posturing is set aside and true colors and commitments surface.

My president, George Bush whom a fully support accomplished 2 of his 3 main goals in Bucarest. The third goal, the invitation of the Ukraine and Georgia will come in December or during the presidency of John McCain. Bush will be remembered as the brave US president, who helped the spread of democracy in Eastern Europe and defended human rights in that area.

Joe

George Bush did nothing to spread democracy in Eastern Europe, he has left a mess in Kosovo that has not solved any issues that needed to be solved. Aside from that, he is disliked all over the world, including Europe, for being aggressive, imperialist and known for lacking the intelligence that is expected from the average politician.

Obviously he wants Georgia and Ukraine in NATO, because he does not care in the slightest for global security or European interests (eg. France and Germany, those most against the ascension), due to their relations and trade with Russia. What do America care, they are on the other side of the world, Europe matters nothing to them, does it?

First there must be success in Iraq and Afghanistan to prove any success of the Bush cadence, because Kosovo is in no way a success, and his gambling in Europe is only making Europeans hate him even more than they ever did.

My krajina serb friend. You should re-educate yourself over the cause of the war in croatia. Defending homes, I think not, more like your kind wanting to live in an ethnically pure state and not a multi-ethnic one which would have been the case if you hadn't cleansed "krajina" of all Croats and committed heinous crimes in Vukovar.

God Bless America & Croatia!

Kristen- with regards to your insults and I do consider them insults. I visited Croatia with a Serbian friend, Dubrovnik, my native language is English, I am English, My father is English as was his, yet I was accosted in a shop for speaking English when they thought I was Serbian, it was not nice. I have never ever suffered this sort of persecution in Serbia even though they have the right.

So before you go throwing mud let me inform you that your oh so wonderful Croats have a very nasty racist streak and I know because I experienced it.

Jim-UK, how a very romantic view of you regarding the Mostar bridge. however reality was that if anything it prevented a wider war. Im not saying thats why it was blown up, because it wasnt. In any case, bridges are rebuilt as we have seen...so to use a blown up bridge to prove a point is a bit far fetched. I mean there are other examples you could have used to make your point.

Jim UK - as an english man, you should be used to abuse, wherever u turn....been in Highlands lately and advertised you were english?

Commentator definately needs to look at the effect of its own RSK leadership at the plight of Krajina Serbs. There is not much point in playing with a hot stove and then complain once you get burnt. easy to say ur a victim after losing the way, but lets not forget the 100,000 croatians cleansed out of Krajina before Oluja. RSK leadership went down a self-destructive pat..it gambled, it lost. The anger should be channeled there.

Will-So are you saying that because I'm English that I should expect to be abused as a matter of race?

As for your example of the Highlands, I think you watch Braveheart too often, we have good relationships with the Scots and indeed it was a Scottish king that formed the British union.

If you knew much about our country you would have chosen north Wales to pick as an example but of course you are a man of contradictions where even bridges are concerned. And yes I could have used other examples against the Croats, I could bring up attrocities going back to world war 2, but my main point was that there's nothing to be gained ponting fingers at others, especially till we're prepared to look at ourselves.

From personal experience I wrote that I have been persecuted in Croatia and never in Serbia, but according to you it seems that's ok because I am English !

I will be more than happy to inform English people that might be thinking of going to Croatia that there it's considered ok to abuse us.

Joe,

Oh yes, George W. Bush will be remembered. But only for starting a war in Iraq because weapons of mass destruction that did not exist....

Kristen- Wasn't it Croats that destroyed that wonderful bridge at Mostar becuase it linked the two communities?

I think we should all look at ourselves before we go pointing fingers at others.

Does not the picture look like Boris Tadic with Ivo Sanader instead of Bush very strange.

Hey Joe
So you are that one guy left still supporting Bush :-) That means that your loved one has not been sent to kill or be killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, you avoided losing your job and/or having your home foreclosed, your investments have not plummeted in value and weak $ did not make all the quality products (non US made) unaffordable for you. You are the lucky one. Count your blessings and enjoy your president, the rest of the world has no use for him. (or maybe you are just another Albanian who is ashamed of who he is and pretending to be somebody else)

I am very surprised that noone noticed this phrase:
"...We hope also that a free and prosperous Serbia will soon find the place it deserves in the European family, and live in peace with its neighbors,” said Bush..."
So according to bush, Serbia is not a free country.

By the way, for the proud Joe, your president finally was aknowledged for his actions on this planet. After he achieved none of the 3 goals he had for Bucharest summit, now the FYROMians are going to name Skopian main park to G.W.Bush.
He finally managed to find the first country that loves him, including his own :)

Peter,

Most Europeans are terribly selfish but nobody can outdo the Germans in selfnishness.

When it comes to "Geschaft" with Russia Merkel, Schroeder or Beck are all the same. In the case of accepting Ukraine and Georgia even the French were more reasonable.
Well in the still enfolding global financial crisis I hope they will get their share after all. The latest is that the Dresner Bank had losses - not yet published - much bigger than anybody thought. It looks like "dead bodies" will still come up in the next few months.

"I will be more than happy to inform English people that might be thinking of going to Croatia that there it's considered ok to abuse us."

Jim-UK: This is absolutely true. I'm American, as is my wife. We can't count the number of times we've been mocked and harrassed on the Croatian coast, both by its residents and officials. For instance, a group of girls overhears my wife telling our American friends how to order a beer in Croatian, and begin making fun of her for not speaking the language fluently. During the height of tourist season, a police officer at the entrance of Split airport's parking lot detained us and confiscated our passports because we made a wrong turn in our car. Our American friends can hardly believe us when we tell them we've never gotten such treatment in Serbia - until they visit us there and see that it's true. We've had more than 15 guests between 2004-2007 experience this.

We get the message loud and clear: foreigners' money is welcome in Croatia. Foreigners are not welcome. We'll take our business elsewhere in the future, and will always recommend the same to our visiting friends.