Czechs believe Kosovo independence "undermines stability"

from my amateurish insight in politic I thought Czechs will be amongst first to recognize that rogue wrong doing.

Apologize and Thank You Very Much CZECHS!!:)))

Sorry if you've already read this, but some background about our Czech position:

In Czechia, the whole opposition (social democrats plus communists) are against the independence, much like the president (Klaus), the Christian Democratic Party (in coalition), most of the base of the Green Party, and one half of the main ruling Civic Democratic Party. I've listed all parliamentary parties.

The prime minister (especially), foreign minister, and the European affairs minister (Topolanek, Schwarzenberg, Vondra) are pro-independence but they are realists and they don't hide that their main reason is that it is "more tactical" to be aligned with the majority of the Western powers.

In Czechia and Slovakia, the declaration of Kosovo independence is moreover viewed as a modern analogy of the Munich Betrayal, a treaty signed in 1938 by Hitler, Mussolini, and their British and French collaborators that has given 1/3 of the Czech lands to the Third Reich based on the irrational and passionate screams of Czechoslovakia's pro-Nazi German minority.

Combined with traditional pan-Slavonic feelings, old friendship with Yugoslavia and Serbia (Yugo and Serbia didn't betray us in 1938 or 1968) and worries that we would help to radicalize Hungarians in Slovakia and many other (potentially) separatist groups across the world, you can't be surprised that Czechs and Slovaks are far from being enthusiastic about the independence of the new, probably unviable and failed state created mostly by arms smugglers, pimps, illegal immigrants, and by organized crime.

It seems the Czechs and Slovaks have long outlasted the Poles regarding Kosovo's independence. I am glad they have their own agendas and are not being pressured by America. I hope we show the same solidarity against the USA with these stupid missile bases in our countries.

I wonder if you are talking about those who have ruled Czechoslovakia after 1945? in this case you are absolutely right: these oppressors were not betrayed by Yugoslavia in 1968. this kind of solidarity prolonged dictatorship there for more than 3 decades.
(rolerkoster, 5 April 2008 18:10)

Do you even bother to think before you post such comments?
Check around about Prague Spring or what countries opposed and did not take part in the military intervention of the Warsaw pact in Prague 1968. You'll find out there were only three from the Eastern block. yours included.

rolerkoster
I am afraid I have not punch of your comment, shall there be some?

Yes, also Romania did not joined the invasion of 68'year.

As I wrote before, due to traditional relations of Czechs and Slovaks to Yugoslavia and Serbs it is hard for our politicians to keep line with majority of EU and easier for people to understand that we have to do with theft of the country.

"According to unofficial information, recognition has now been postponed, at least until after the Serbian parliamentary elections on May 11."
Finally someone got the sence of reality.
Can anybody have a dificulty to read those lines?

... you can't be surprised that Czechs and Slovaks are far from being enthusiastic about the independence of the new, probably unviable and failed state created mostly by arms smugglers, pimps, illegal immigrants, and by organized crime.
(Lubos Motl, 5 April 2008 10:56)

I wonder if you are talking about those who have ruled Czechoslovakia after 1945? in this case you are absolutely right: these oppressors were not betrayed by Yugoslavia in 1968. this kind of solidarity prolonged dictatorship there for more than 3 decades.

This much more seems to me like when we decided to wait the elections in Serbia before declaring independence. Regional agenda is more or less the same right now (in political influence I mean). The goal for everybody is to keep as far as possible the duo Seselj/Nikolic from power. Czechs know it. Wait and see but personnaly I do think that a divergent voice (small voice actually) from Czech Republic regarding the tremendous numbre of EU member states will only harm them.

from my amateurish insight in politic I thought Czechs will be amongst first to recognize that rogue wrong doing.

Apologize and Thank You Very Much CZECHS!!:)))

"According to unofficial information, recognition has now been postponed, at least until after the Serbian parliamentary elections on May 11."
Finally someone got the sence of reality.
Can anybody have a dificulty to read those lines?

Sorry if you've already read this, but some background about our Czech position:

In Czechia, the whole opposition (social democrats plus communists) are against the independence, much like the president (Klaus), the Christian Democratic Party (in coalition), most of the base of the Green Party, and one half of the main ruling Civic Democratic Party. I've listed all parliamentary parties.

The prime minister (especially), foreign minister, and the European affairs minister (Topolanek, Schwarzenberg, Vondra) are pro-independence but they are realists and they don't hide that their main reason is that it is "more tactical" to be aligned with the majority of the Western powers.

In Czechia and Slovakia, the declaration of Kosovo independence is moreover viewed as a modern analogy of the Munich Betrayal, a treaty signed in 1938 by Hitler, Mussolini, and their British and French collaborators that has given 1/3 of the Czech lands to the Third Reich based on the irrational and passionate screams of Czechoslovakia's pro-Nazi German minority.

Combined with traditional pan-Slavonic feelings, old friendship with Yugoslavia and Serbia (Yugo and Serbia didn't betray us in 1938 or 1968) and worries that we would help to radicalize Hungarians in Slovakia and many other (potentially) separatist groups across the world, you can't be surprised that Czechs and Slovaks are far from being enthusiastic about the independence of the new, probably unviable and failed state created mostly by arms smugglers, pimps, illegal immigrants, and by organized crime.

... you can't be surprised that Czechs and Slovaks are far from being enthusiastic about the independence of the new, probably unviable and failed state created mostly by arms smugglers, pimps, illegal immigrants, and by organized crime.
(Lubos Motl, 5 April 2008 10:56)

I wonder if you are talking about those who have ruled Czechoslovakia after 1945? in this case you are absolutely right: these oppressors were not betrayed by Yugoslavia in 1968. this kind of solidarity prolonged dictatorship there for more than 3 decades.

It seems the Czechs and Slovaks have long outlasted the Poles regarding Kosovo's independence. I am glad they have their own agendas and are not being pressured by America. I hope we show the same solidarity against the USA with these stupid missile bases in our countries.

This much more seems to me like when we decided to wait the elections in Serbia before declaring independence. Regional agenda is more or less the same right now (in political influence I mean). The goal for everybody is to keep as far as possible the duo Seselj/Nikolic from power. Czechs know it. Wait and see but personnaly I do think that a divergent voice (small voice actually) from Czech Republic regarding the tremendous numbre of EU member states will only harm them.

I wonder if you are talking about those who have ruled Czechoslovakia after 1945? in this case you are absolutely right: these oppressors were not betrayed by Yugoslavia in 1968. this kind of solidarity prolonged dictatorship there for more than 3 decades.
(rolerkoster, 5 April 2008 18:10)

Do you even bother to think before you post such comments?
Check around about Prague Spring or what countries opposed and did not take part in the military intervention of the Warsaw pact in Prague 1968. You'll find out there were only three from the Eastern block. yours included.

rolerkoster
I am afraid I have not punch of your comment, shall there be some?

Yes, also Romania did not joined the invasion of 68'year.

As I wrote before, due to traditional relations of Czechs and Slovaks to Yugoslavia and Serbs it is hard for our politicians to keep line with majority of EU and easier for people to understand that we have to do with theft of the country.