Rehn: No consensus on SAA signing

Apparently Tadic believes that the govt cannot pass the signing of NIS oil deal to parliment thus he has excluded on the same grounds this liberalisation prior to the elections - wonder if Dulic told Rehn or even if anyone told Dulic?

Seems like DS have well and truly stiched themselves up! Are they on self destruct on purpose - could this be part of the secret plans following the illegal declaration of Dependence - DS collapse sending the strongest possible message to the message to the EU that only a WHOLE Serbia in the EU or not at all - in which case they best get round to the process of real and tangible negotiations given status Quo is untenable but is still in effect!

Do you mean to tell me that Serbia is not eligible, to sign the SAA, but Tadic promised Serbia this how can this possibly be true. Tadic's defense minister says that Kostunica is the Enemy and Nato is our friend I wonder what else is not true

The problem with this - and esp. the deadline (end of April) is that it looks like an other useless carrot. The visa regime is a shame. If citizens of "prosperous" and "democratic" countries like Venezuela and Nicaragua can travel without visa, than why not Serbs or Albanians. This is simply an abuse and these carrots won't work.

As for visa - here it's your own fault. In normal case immigrant Albanians or Serbs should be picketing with large signs in the E.U. countries before government buildings, make a grass-roots movement with the emphasis: "why Nicaragua or Venezuela is better?". Do same at home, put constant peaceful(!) pressure before the embassies, heck, even make a law, on all products from the E.U. will be stamped "made in a country which requires visa from you but not from prosperous Nicaragua and has no issue with the democracy in Venezuela".

The keywords: Nicaragua + Venezuela is economically worse, less democratic, less west-oriented than Serbia + Albania. Why does E.U. support communists like Chavez?

@Naim: probably a good idea is to listen to each other and not to the forces which want to divide and conquer. As for Kosovo, the problem is there is no mutual trust. As long as there is no trust, there won't be peace. At this moment the Bush administration is the one who is the least interested in building that trust, hence their push. You don't want to be ruled by Belgrade - fine. Belgrade does want to have the tricolor border signs where they used to be - fine. There is somewhat in-between. Just being afraid, this is a lose-lose situation because if Albanians land up with less under "supervised independence" than under "broad autonomy" and if Serbs land up with less official territory, there won't be peace.

Remark: under "good" (sorry, not-that-good) old CCCP they had two seats in the U.N.: one seat for CCCP as whole, one seat for Ukraine. Normally, Ukraine was a "yes-man", but one day it changed. A country called "Serbia-Kosovo" could have in theory two U.N. seats under similar model. This, however, was pretty much against the interest of certain powers and everything was done to avoid the peaceful solution. Unfortunately serious negotiations were openly discouraged - otherwise Kosovo would already have own seat in the U.N. This is a good example, with "friends" like that Kosovo, too, does not need enemies. Paradox but I see at certain point in the future Vetëvendosje being a better negotiation partner than what is out there... even if they say "jo negociata" today. The opponents of both Serbs and Vetëvendosje seem to be the same.

Dear Serbs of Serbia it will be a wild until you and your people understand that Serbia needs EC more than EC needs Serbia, and that rules for EC membership comes from EC and its Members and not from Serbs making its own rules as they go alone that’s why is not going to be consensus on SSA , first of all it has to be elected truly democratic government EC orientated which in Serbia’s case is difficult to elect a truly democratic government, as the Europeans think in Serbia is still dominant communist and radical government which is not suitable for EC and that will create a lot of problems within EC community as is visible Serbian campaign in dividing international community.
EC stands for strong fair and good relation between countries inside community, as we have seen in the past all new members have increased their economic and social cooperation and there is no problems which can not be resolved in a civilised manner between member states.
As long as Serbia not willing to cooperate and listen what the Governments of strongest economic and politic powers has to say about Serbia’s behaviours in last 20 years they will never as well be heard from EC .
,,IF YOU LISTEN TO US WE WILL LISTEN TO you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dear Serbs of Serbia it will be a wild until you and your people understand that Serbia needs EC more than EC needs Serbia, and that rules for EC membership comes from EC and its Members and not from Serbs making its own rules as they go alone that’s why is not going to be consensus on SSA , first of all it has to be elected truly democratic government EC orientated which in Serbia’s case is difficult to elect a truly democratic government, as the Europeans think in Serbia is still dominant communist and radical government which is not suitable for EC and that will create a lot of problems within EC community as is visible Serbian campaign in dividing international community.
EC stands for strong fair and good relation between countries inside community, as we have seen in the past all new members have increased their economic and social cooperation and there is no problems which can not be resolved in a civilised manner between member states.
As long as Serbia not willing to cooperate and listen what the Governments of strongest economic and politic powers has to say about Serbia’s behaviours in last 20 years they will never as well be heard from EC .
,,IF YOU LISTEN TO US WE WILL LISTEN TO you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The problem with this - and esp. the deadline (end of April) is that it looks like an other useless carrot. The visa regime is a shame. If citizens of "prosperous" and "democratic" countries like Venezuela and Nicaragua can travel without visa, than why not Serbs or Albanians. This is simply an abuse and these carrots won't work.

As for visa - here it's your own fault. In normal case immigrant Albanians or Serbs should be picketing with large signs in the E.U. countries before government buildings, make a grass-roots movement with the emphasis: "why Nicaragua or Venezuela is better?". Do same at home, put constant peaceful(!) pressure before the embassies, heck, even make a law, on all products from the E.U. will be stamped "made in a country which requires visa from you but not from prosperous Nicaragua and has no issue with the democracy in Venezuela".

The keywords: Nicaragua + Venezuela is economically worse, less democratic, less west-oriented than Serbia + Albania. Why does E.U. support communists like Chavez?

@Naim: probably a good idea is to listen to each other and not to the forces which want to divide and conquer. As for Kosovo, the problem is there is no mutual trust. As long as there is no trust, there won't be peace. At this moment the Bush administration is the one who is the least interested in building that trust, hence their push. You don't want to be ruled by Belgrade - fine. Belgrade does want to have the tricolor border signs where they used to be - fine. There is somewhat in-between. Just being afraid, this is a lose-lose situation because if Albanians land up with less under "supervised independence" than under "broad autonomy" and if Serbs land up with less official territory, there won't be peace.

Remark: under "good" (sorry, not-that-good) old CCCP they had two seats in the U.N.: one seat for CCCP as whole, one seat for Ukraine. Normally, Ukraine was a "yes-man", but one day it changed. A country called "Serbia-Kosovo" could have in theory two U.N. seats under similar model. This, however, was pretty much against the interest of certain powers and everything was done to avoid the peaceful solution. Unfortunately serious negotiations were openly discouraged - otherwise Kosovo would already have own seat in the U.N. This is a good example, with "friends" like that Kosovo, too, does not need enemies. Paradox but I see at certain point in the future Vetëvendosje being a better negotiation partner than what is out there... even if they say "jo negociata" today. The opponents of both Serbs and Vetëvendosje seem to be the same.

Apparently Tadic believes that the govt cannot pass the signing of NIS oil deal to parliment thus he has excluded on the same grounds this liberalisation prior to the elections - wonder if Dulic told Rehn or even if anyone told Dulic?

Seems like DS have well and truly stiched themselves up! Are they on self destruct on purpose - could this be part of the secret plans following the illegal declaration of Dependence - DS collapse sending the strongest possible message to the message to the EU that only a WHOLE Serbia in the EU or not at all - in which case they best get round to the process of real and tangible negotiations given status Quo is untenable but is still in effect!

Do you mean to tell me that Serbia is not eligible, to sign the SAA, but Tadic promised Serbia this how can this possibly be true. Tadic's defense minister says that Kostunica is the Enemy and Nato is our friend I wonder what else is not true