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Wednesday, 02.04.2008.

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No to partition, yes to cooperation, says Thaci

Kosovo PM Hashim Thaci says his government opposes partition of Kosovo, but is "ready to work with Belgrade".

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Dragan, yet another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

ahhh...

How about this Hashim -
Yes to partition, no to cooperation, says many who don't recognize you or your instruments that foster your illegitimate and temporary powers...

jrt

pre 16 godina

Still not a sign in western market dictatorship media on how much blood this albanian Mengele has on his hands.

And to every serb dreaming of money falling from the sky if Serbia signs a deal with its oppressors in the €USSR: Look who they are supporting, are you also willing to neglect the albanian atrocities?

Mike

pre 16 godina

I can understand Thaci's desire to put a positive spin on current conditions in Kosovo Province. I can also understand his symbolic gestures of friendship to Serbia, as it really does no harm to his political position. However, someone needs to remind him not to get too carried away with fudging reality in the region.

First, Thaci is opposed to partition. By this, I'm sure he means territorial partition. But he's also willing to "cooperate" with Belgrade. This may mean accepting the realities that Kosovo is de facto partitioned administratively at the Ibar and at the enclaves. If he acknowledges the administrative split of Mitrovica, it's not that hard to imagine K Mitrovica becoming the de facto regional Serbian capital in Kosovo. If he’s willing to cooperate in dual governments in Kosovo, then I might take him seriously.

Second, proclaiming Kosovo to be a "multiethnic" state needs more than two token Serbs in his government. If 99% of the largest minority does not acknowledge his political legitimacy, we can't call Kosovo either a multiethnic, nor a functioning state. The riots in Mitrovica two weeks ago, and the current attempts at Albanians shooting at Serbs now, belie any ideas of multi-ethnic co-habitation.

Third, there seems to be this understanding among Western analysts and Albanian groupthinkers that K Serbs are being muscled and taunted by Belgrade not to cooperate in the new state of Kosovo. This is a very misleading assumption as there seems to be little need for goading from Belgrade to get K Serbs to protest. Within the last month, K Serbs have willingly shown their displeasure with Pristina's declaration, as well as an overwhelming commitment to disengage from Pristina-led institutions. This doesn't just apply to the north, but to the enclaves as well. Keeping the proverbial door open to Serbs to enter the Kosovo government will not work. If Thaci is actually committed to integrating the Serbs, he better be ready to accept a new number of sweeping concessions to get them on board. If he's just saying this because Brussels told him to say this for the camera, Kosovo will remain divided indefinitely. Again, it does no damage to Thaci to SAY he want multiethnic cooperation, while doing little to actually PROMOTE multiethnic cooperation.

Fourth, it's upsetting that Thaci still engages in historical revisionism by ascribing all the misery and anguish of the region solely and specifically to Serbs. Conflict between both sides has been an ongoing tit for tat struggle for generations, and to blame the Serbs as the ones who "committed genocide" in Kosovo may go down well in the crowd of Albanian groupthinkers, but will not get him the cooperation from Belgrade he theoretically wants. For every case of Serb harassing Albanians, there’s a counter example of Albanians harassing Serbs.

Fifth, as far as Kosovo joining international institutions, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Kosovo can't even stand up on its own as a functioning state without massive external aid. Joining NATO and the EU means getting approval from those states that don't recognize its independence (Greece, Cyprus, Slovakia, Spain, Romania). I don't see anything like this materializing for at least a generation, if not more, and none of this will ever materialize so long as relations with Serbia are not solved.

And finally, with regards to the EU "treating Kosovo with respect", that's to be expected since it represents a major personal investment. It has little to do with acknowledging Albanian legitimacy. It has everything to do with making a pet project look presentable for the rest of the world. I mean if I were throwing a lot of political and financial support towards something, I’d want it to be able to sit up straight and eat over the plate at the dinner table. Treating it as an illegitimate red-headed stepchild only validates the claims of many of the detractors of Kosovo Province’s independence.

Again, Thaci does wonders at candy-coating reality, but he's going to need a lot of sugar to coat this still-indigestible dish.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Mr Thaci

Remember, no Serb will be integrated into your imaginary independent society. You may call yourself independent but always keep resolution 1244 in mind when you state something like that. Pristina and Belgrade cannot have any relations as long as war criminals seat in the provincial government. Serbs are also looking towards the future but their future wont be under your control (especially not after your involvement on organ trafficking) and certainly not led by you and likes.

As for genocide that you mentioned, I ask what genocide you are talking about. There was no genocide and stating lies publicly does not suit to one so called provincial official.

I don’t remember that Serbia was proven for committing any genocide. Bosnia did try to prove it but failed. Sorry guys, change rhetoric.

Jack

pre 16 godina

I see your mouth moving Hashim but I don't hear any of the noise it makes. You are irrelevant. Please read the mock constitution you signed the ethnic albanians in kosovo up to on 17th.

It clearly states KFOR has ultimate authority in military and security matters and the International Civilian Representative(colonial governor) has ultimate authority to dimiss you, your instrument of self government and any descisions it makes. You have as much to do with the running of Kosovo or the direction it takes as the badge on the front of a car does for the car. In fact I'm going to start refering to you as Hashim Logo.

Ana

pre 16 godina

RE: There’s no chance of partition. The international community guarantees Kosovo’s territorial integrity,”

Can someone please remind The Snake, that the same ws guaranted to Serbia?

Jack

pre 16 godina

I see your mouth moving Hashim but I don't hear any of the noise it makes. You are irrelevant. Please read the mock constitution you signed the ethnic albanians in kosovo up to on 17th.

It clearly states KFOR has ultimate authority in military and security matters and the International Civilian Representative(colonial governor) has ultimate authority to dimiss you, your instrument of self government and any descisions it makes. You have as much to do with the running of Kosovo or the direction it takes as the badge on the front of a car does for the car. In fact I'm going to start refering to you as Hashim Logo.

Mike

pre 16 godina

I can understand Thaci's desire to put a positive spin on current conditions in Kosovo Province. I can also understand his symbolic gestures of friendship to Serbia, as it really does no harm to his political position. However, someone needs to remind him not to get too carried away with fudging reality in the region.

First, Thaci is opposed to partition. By this, I'm sure he means territorial partition. But he's also willing to "cooperate" with Belgrade. This may mean accepting the realities that Kosovo is de facto partitioned administratively at the Ibar and at the enclaves. If he acknowledges the administrative split of Mitrovica, it's not that hard to imagine K Mitrovica becoming the de facto regional Serbian capital in Kosovo. If he’s willing to cooperate in dual governments in Kosovo, then I might take him seriously.

Second, proclaiming Kosovo to be a "multiethnic" state needs more than two token Serbs in his government. If 99% of the largest minority does not acknowledge his political legitimacy, we can't call Kosovo either a multiethnic, nor a functioning state. The riots in Mitrovica two weeks ago, and the current attempts at Albanians shooting at Serbs now, belie any ideas of multi-ethnic co-habitation.

Third, there seems to be this understanding among Western analysts and Albanian groupthinkers that K Serbs are being muscled and taunted by Belgrade not to cooperate in the new state of Kosovo. This is a very misleading assumption as there seems to be little need for goading from Belgrade to get K Serbs to protest. Within the last month, K Serbs have willingly shown their displeasure with Pristina's declaration, as well as an overwhelming commitment to disengage from Pristina-led institutions. This doesn't just apply to the north, but to the enclaves as well. Keeping the proverbial door open to Serbs to enter the Kosovo government will not work. If Thaci is actually committed to integrating the Serbs, he better be ready to accept a new number of sweeping concessions to get them on board. If he's just saying this because Brussels told him to say this for the camera, Kosovo will remain divided indefinitely. Again, it does no damage to Thaci to SAY he want multiethnic cooperation, while doing little to actually PROMOTE multiethnic cooperation.

Fourth, it's upsetting that Thaci still engages in historical revisionism by ascribing all the misery and anguish of the region solely and specifically to Serbs. Conflict between both sides has been an ongoing tit for tat struggle for generations, and to blame the Serbs as the ones who "committed genocide" in Kosovo may go down well in the crowd of Albanian groupthinkers, but will not get him the cooperation from Belgrade he theoretically wants. For every case of Serb harassing Albanians, there’s a counter example of Albanians harassing Serbs.

Fifth, as far as Kosovo joining international institutions, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Kosovo can't even stand up on its own as a functioning state without massive external aid. Joining NATO and the EU means getting approval from those states that don't recognize its independence (Greece, Cyprus, Slovakia, Spain, Romania). I don't see anything like this materializing for at least a generation, if not more, and none of this will ever materialize so long as relations with Serbia are not solved.

And finally, with regards to the EU "treating Kosovo with respect", that's to be expected since it represents a major personal investment. It has little to do with acknowledging Albanian legitimacy. It has everything to do with making a pet project look presentable for the rest of the world. I mean if I were throwing a lot of political and financial support towards something, I’d want it to be able to sit up straight and eat over the plate at the dinner table. Treating it as an illegitimate red-headed stepchild only validates the claims of many of the detractors of Kosovo Province’s independence.

Again, Thaci does wonders at candy-coating reality, but he's going to need a lot of sugar to coat this still-indigestible dish.

Ana

pre 16 godina

RE: There’s no chance of partition. The international community guarantees Kosovo’s territorial integrity,”

Can someone please remind The Snake, that the same ws guaranted to Serbia?

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Mr Thaci

Remember, no Serb will be integrated into your imaginary independent society. You may call yourself independent but always keep resolution 1244 in mind when you state something like that. Pristina and Belgrade cannot have any relations as long as war criminals seat in the provincial government. Serbs are also looking towards the future but their future wont be under your control (especially not after your involvement on organ trafficking) and certainly not led by you and likes.

As for genocide that you mentioned, I ask what genocide you are talking about. There was no genocide and stating lies publicly does not suit to one so called provincial official.

I don’t remember that Serbia was proven for committing any genocide. Bosnia did try to prove it but failed. Sorry guys, change rhetoric.

Dragan, yet another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

ahhh...

How about this Hashim -
Yes to partition, no to cooperation, says many who don't recognize you or your instruments that foster your illegitimate and temporary powers...

jrt

pre 16 godina

Still not a sign in western market dictatorship media on how much blood this albanian Mengele has on his hands.

And to every serb dreaming of money falling from the sky if Serbia signs a deal with its oppressors in the €USSR: Look who they are supporting, are you also willing to neglect the albanian atrocities?

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Mr Thaci

Remember, no Serb will be integrated into your imaginary independent society. You may call yourself independent but always keep resolution 1244 in mind when you state something like that. Pristina and Belgrade cannot have any relations as long as war criminals seat in the provincial government. Serbs are also looking towards the future but their future wont be under your control (especially not after your involvement on organ trafficking) and certainly not led by you and likes.

As for genocide that you mentioned, I ask what genocide you are talking about. There was no genocide and stating lies publicly does not suit to one so called provincial official.

I don’t remember that Serbia was proven for committing any genocide. Bosnia did try to prove it but failed. Sorry guys, change rhetoric.

Ana

pre 16 godina

RE: There’s no chance of partition. The international community guarantees Kosovo’s territorial integrity,”

Can someone please remind The Snake, that the same ws guaranted to Serbia?

Mike

pre 16 godina

I can understand Thaci's desire to put a positive spin on current conditions in Kosovo Province. I can also understand his symbolic gestures of friendship to Serbia, as it really does no harm to his political position. However, someone needs to remind him not to get too carried away with fudging reality in the region.

First, Thaci is opposed to partition. By this, I'm sure he means territorial partition. But he's also willing to "cooperate" with Belgrade. This may mean accepting the realities that Kosovo is de facto partitioned administratively at the Ibar and at the enclaves. If he acknowledges the administrative split of Mitrovica, it's not that hard to imagine K Mitrovica becoming the de facto regional Serbian capital in Kosovo. If he’s willing to cooperate in dual governments in Kosovo, then I might take him seriously.

Second, proclaiming Kosovo to be a "multiethnic" state needs more than two token Serbs in his government. If 99% of the largest minority does not acknowledge his political legitimacy, we can't call Kosovo either a multiethnic, nor a functioning state. The riots in Mitrovica two weeks ago, and the current attempts at Albanians shooting at Serbs now, belie any ideas of multi-ethnic co-habitation.

Third, there seems to be this understanding among Western analysts and Albanian groupthinkers that K Serbs are being muscled and taunted by Belgrade not to cooperate in the new state of Kosovo. This is a very misleading assumption as there seems to be little need for goading from Belgrade to get K Serbs to protest. Within the last month, K Serbs have willingly shown their displeasure with Pristina's declaration, as well as an overwhelming commitment to disengage from Pristina-led institutions. This doesn't just apply to the north, but to the enclaves as well. Keeping the proverbial door open to Serbs to enter the Kosovo government will not work. If Thaci is actually committed to integrating the Serbs, he better be ready to accept a new number of sweeping concessions to get them on board. If he's just saying this because Brussels told him to say this for the camera, Kosovo will remain divided indefinitely. Again, it does no damage to Thaci to SAY he want multiethnic cooperation, while doing little to actually PROMOTE multiethnic cooperation.

Fourth, it's upsetting that Thaci still engages in historical revisionism by ascribing all the misery and anguish of the region solely and specifically to Serbs. Conflict between both sides has been an ongoing tit for tat struggle for generations, and to blame the Serbs as the ones who "committed genocide" in Kosovo may go down well in the crowd of Albanian groupthinkers, but will not get him the cooperation from Belgrade he theoretically wants. For every case of Serb harassing Albanians, there’s a counter example of Albanians harassing Serbs.

Fifth, as far as Kosovo joining international institutions, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Kosovo can't even stand up on its own as a functioning state without massive external aid. Joining NATO and the EU means getting approval from those states that don't recognize its independence (Greece, Cyprus, Slovakia, Spain, Romania). I don't see anything like this materializing for at least a generation, if not more, and none of this will ever materialize so long as relations with Serbia are not solved.

And finally, with regards to the EU "treating Kosovo with respect", that's to be expected since it represents a major personal investment. It has little to do with acknowledging Albanian legitimacy. It has everything to do with making a pet project look presentable for the rest of the world. I mean if I were throwing a lot of political and financial support towards something, I’d want it to be able to sit up straight and eat over the plate at the dinner table. Treating it as an illegitimate red-headed stepchild only validates the claims of many of the detractors of Kosovo Province’s independence.

Again, Thaci does wonders at candy-coating reality, but he's going to need a lot of sugar to coat this still-indigestible dish.

Jack

pre 16 godina

I see your mouth moving Hashim but I don't hear any of the noise it makes. You are irrelevant. Please read the mock constitution you signed the ethnic albanians in kosovo up to on 17th.

It clearly states KFOR has ultimate authority in military and security matters and the International Civilian Representative(colonial governor) has ultimate authority to dimiss you, your instrument of self government and any descisions it makes. You have as much to do with the running of Kosovo or the direction it takes as the badge on the front of a car does for the car. In fact I'm going to start refering to you as Hashim Logo.

Dragan, yet another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

ahhh...

How about this Hashim -
Yes to partition, no to cooperation, says many who don't recognize you or your instruments that foster your illegitimate and temporary powers...

jrt

pre 16 godina

Still not a sign in western market dictatorship media on how much blood this albanian Mengele has on his hands.

And to every serb dreaming of money falling from the sky if Serbia signs a deal with its oppressors in the €USSR: Look who they are supporting, are you also willing to neglect the albanian atrocities?