"Cyprus cannot recognize Kosovo"

I am sure the albanians here will start hurling their insults at Cyprus and their 'insignificance'. But remember this, without Cyprus' agreement, you will never be able to enter the EU. And without Russia's or China's agreement, you will never be able to join the UN.
What you are is another 'North Cyprus' type place, with no status. I guess this is what Bushie means with his double speak of 'controlled independence'. Controlled by NATO and outsiders, but yet somehow 'independent'...lol. What a joke.

"Kyprianou stated that the reasons for this were that its independence was declared unilaterally and did not have the support of the UN Security Council."

Now that says it all for those who believe in the rule of law. The Rule of Law. Remember that?

DimTuc:

What on earth gives you the idea that Nicosia will ever recognise the UDI without UN recognition? Just because the two sides are talking about reunification?

Cyprus has far more reason than most to respect the UN charter, little though it might be. The true reality is that Cyprus has far more in common with Serbia than any so called 'republic of Kosovo'.

Incidentally, declaring independence does make an entity independent. With respect to the situation in Kosovo, the opposite is clearly the case. The 'pseudo-state' there is totally dependent on external support & will remain that way - which is exactly what Washington wants.

Maks:

Do you really think that the Greek Cypriots have forgotten the last 34 years?
I personally doubt it - but if you so believe, is fine with me.

As for refering to K-albanian declaration as unilateral, is simply the truth. Is not bilateral as Serbia does not accept it, hence by definition, is unilateral

Also might point out that co-ordinated declaration of independence (CDI) doesn't really make a lot sense - as US et al, while they certainly support a K-albanian UDI, are in fact, NOT declaring independence. How's about US SUDI instead? ('S' for supported).

And since you brought up the subject, what possible justification can K-albanians have for claiming the northern part of Kosovo in which serbs are a majority, and which are adjacent to Serbia proper?

And no spurious arguments referring to 'precedents being set' please - most would argue that such is hypocrisy coming from a supporter of the K-albanian UDI.

And bear in mind that the case of the citizens of Serbia north of the Ibar is different in any case.

In other cases, the 'would-be secessionists' are already part of an existing state AND have accepted membership in the existing state previously (either born there or nationalised).

Neither of these two criteria applies to the serbs in the north of Kosovo.

Repeating my question..

What possible justification can K-albanians have for claiming the parts of Kosovo, in which serbs are a majority, and which are adjacent to Serbia proper?

*Maks
Wht you probablydidnt understand is that ther isnt any kind of comparison between Cyprus and Kossov, but between CYprus and Serbia.
And it is actually UDI in only Kossovo's case and not in Cyprus case, since there is the military invasion of Turkey and the ongoing occupation by turkish army.
Cyprus will not recognise Kossovo until their own problem is resolved satisfactory for them.

And why and how on earth will ever Kossovo be able to enter the eu? Who is so arrogant to even imagine a possible enter in the next 25 years?

The statements that so often come from the goverment of the Republic of Cyprus are a breath of fresh air in this turbulent times.It is certain
that Cyprus will never recognise Kosovo as a separate entity from Serbia.
Cyprus and Serbia share the same illegal UDIs and they've
witnessed war,refugees and partition.With regard to the solutionn of the Cyprus problem this may or may not happen at all because of the internal politics in Turkey.

The Greek Cypriots have effectively given up property rights in the north, as well as gov't rights, as the north will become it's own autonomous unit. 200,000 Greek Cypriots were ethnically cleansed from the north, the majority never to return. Indeed, no resettlement will happen inside the part of the country to be controlled by Turkish Cypriots. They have come to grips with this fait accompli. The main source of agitation right now is the presence of Turkish troops.

You can bet that unless the Albanians and Serbs cut a satisfactory deal (and Albanians would not be satisfied at all within Serbia) then this wound will continue on as Cyprus did. This also goes for Serbia as well. It has to be satisfied. Meaning: both must make difficult compromises. So far, Albanians have compromised very little in this dispute.

Dan Asta
#7

Serbs have been wanting to settle with an agreement with lawless Albanian-Serbs in Kosovo INSIDE of Serbia, but they don't want to negotiate. Maybe you forgot there was an illegal udi by the lawless Albanian-Serbs in Kosovo INSIDE of Serbia. They don't listen, don't care, don't communicate, and will regret their UDI.

Thank you Cyprus

If and when the Greeks and Turks on Cyprus settle the problem, there should be only one lesson learned by Albanians and Serbs. 40 odd years of conflict may pass, sucking the strength of your diplomatic corp, eating into the prosperity of both your nations, while the rest of the world goes on its way trying to survive in the face of depleting resources and global warming. And in the end, when you have grown tired of it all, after half a century, you will probably just come to your senses and accept a solution which, really, you might as well accept right now. That being, one that entails considerable sacrifice from both communities.

Or you can just suffer for 40 years.

“Furthermore, Kosovo's declaration of independence was unilateral and it does not have the support of the UN Security Council. That is why it is not possible for Cyprus to recognize Kosovo,” Kyprianou said.
Cypriots are not stupid. They want to buy time and support for their own interest. At the end they will recognize Kosovo independence and they will be strong supporter of keeping unchanged Kosovo border and keeping Mitrovica (North of Kosovo) inside of unified Kosovo state as they want Norht of Cyprus to be integral part of Unified Cyprus.
It is not the first time that Serbs commentors in this site get it wrong. Please go back not much but just a few months and read comments about Kosovo independence. Sometime Serbs made fun with "delay" of Kosovo Independence. Even more wrong they call it UDI instead of CDI - COORDINATED DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. Get it?

DimTuci

A democratic Kosova in the heart of Balkans will ensure security and stability. You are right, but no one is blaming Cyprus for its' current stance.

Dan Asta

Albanians may have compromised a little... but Serbia has not compromised at all. Despite all that happened in 1999, Serbia still thinks it can turn back the clock with that vague "extensive autonomy" concept that it tries to peddle.

Northern Cyprus was recognized only by Turkey. Kosovo is recognized by most of the Western world. That makes a huge difference.

As an FYI for the other camp... The entire Western Europe was dependent on the United States after the WWII, economically, politically, and militarily. They all got back on their own feet eventually. So will Kosovo. Don't confuse short term with long term circumstances. One more thing... you folks still underestimate the Kosovar Albanians' resolve never to be ruled by Serbia again.

The “Holy Mighty” uncle Sam can “force” to recognize Kosova’s independence countries like:

UK, France, Germany, Italy, Japan etc.,

but is powerless in front of the magnificence of Cyprus?

elucidation is needed Serbian camp ;)

*16 Maks

You should be more careful when talking about issues you probably dont know about.
Cyprus is backed by the US????????
Really? And so it wasnt the usa that encouraged the turkish invasion at '74 and it isnt the usa that is putting pressure on the Cypriots to accept their island's division and it isnt the usa that protects turkey in all international fora on this issue?

Besides, Cyprus didnt ever declared their UDI from Turkey or Greece, instead a part of Cyprus has declared that UDI after an illegal military intervention by a foreign country. That sounds more similar in comparing Cyprus with Serbia than Kossovo, sorry. :)

Besides, the only similar thing between Cyprus and Kossovo could be that Cyprus isnt backed up by the international community, as also is Kossovo ;)

Dead wrong. Cyprus will, alright, just will take its time for understandable reasons (understandable like those of Bosnia).

But in reality, Cyprus and Kosova have much in common:

‘A united Cyprus first fruit of Kosovos independence?’
http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080329814/Views-and-Analysis/A-united-Cyprus-first-fruit-of-Kosovo-s-independence.html

No problem.The say when Cyprus will recognise Kosva will come same as UN seat. There is no rush.

*Maks
Wht you probably didnt understand is that ther isnt any kind of comparison between Cyprus and Kossov, but between CYprus and Serbia.
And it is actually UDI in only Kossovo's case and not in Cyprus case, since there is the military invasion of Turkey and the ongoing occupation by turkish army.
Cyprus will not recognise Kossovo until their own problem is resolved satisfactory for them.

And why and how on earth will ever Kossovo be able to enter the eu? Who is so arrogant to even imagine a possible enter in the next 25 years?
(Nikitas, 1 April 2008 17:55)
Cyprus and Kosovo is the best comparision ever.
Cyprus and Kosovo are two countries that have another mother nation country each are respectively Greece and Albania.
Cyprus and Kosovo are occupied by respectively Turkey and Serbia on 11th century.
Cyprus and Kosovo have their north part still occupied and with majority an occupied nation respectively Turkish majority and Serbs majority.
Cyprus and Kosovo have a strong support from US and most of Western powers.
The only difference between Cyprus and Kosovo is religion and just for that reason Russia is in Cyprus side and in the same time against Kosovo side.

Maks is completely right in this analogy.

But that is why the Ahtisaari Plan needs to be replaced by a Kosovar version of the Annan Plan - a b-zonal, bi-communal (Albanian and Serb) independent, sovereign Kosovo/a federation.

*16 Maks
You should be more careful when talking about issues you probably dont know about.
Cyprus is backed by the US????????
Really? And so it wasnt the usa that encouraged the turkish invasion at '74 and it isnt the usa that is putting pressure on the Cypriots to accept their island's division and it isnt the usa that protects turkey in all international fora on this issue?
…
(Nikitas, 2 April 2008 14:10)
Again Nikitas, you are dead wrong. Please read the history.
“By 1974, dissatisfaction among right-wing Greek nationalists favoring the long-term goal of unification with Greece precipitated a coup d'etat against intending to assassinate President Makarios and declare Union with Greece. The coup was sponsored by the USA backed the military government of Greece and led by Greek officers in the Cypriot National Guard. The new regime replaced Makarios -who escaped the assassination attempt- with Nikos Giorgiades Sampson as president and Bishop Gennadios as head of the Cypriot Orthodox Church. Seven days later, on 20 July 1974, Turkey launched an air- and sea-based invasion of Cyprus, claiming its aim was "to re-instate the constitution of the Republic of Cyprus" per its obligation under the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee.”
The analogy on this case would be: The right-wing Albanian nationalist favoring long-term goal of unification with Albania, precipitate a coup d’etat against intending to assassinate President Seidiu (Kosovo president) and declare Union with Albania. The coup was sponsored by USA backed the military government of Albania and lead by Albanian officers in the Kosovo National Guard or Kosovo Police Force whatever is fit for that comparison. Days later Serbia launched an invasion of Kosovo and took control of the north of Ibar River, claiming to “re-instate the constitution of Kosovo based on Ahtisari plan.
So my friend NEVER US took side of Turkey. US might have tolerated Turkey invasion of the North as it might tolerate invasion of North of Kosovo if K-Albanians are that stupid to go against Contact Group principle of “Kosovo will not be divided and will not be part of a neighbor country (Albania).” So you see that Cyprus and Kosovo are the best comparison and it is best to learn by Greek Cypriot mistake to not to ask neither for division nor for unification with Albania.

Maks:

You have certainly been active in this thread. But you still have not answered my post.

I will repeat relevant part of my post again.

"And since you brought up the subject, what possible justification can K-albanians have for claiming the northern part of Kosovo in which serbs are a majority, and which are adjacent to Serbia proper?

And no spurious arguments referring to 'precedents being set' please - most would argue that such is hypocrisy coming from a supporter of the K-albanian UDI.

And bear in mind that the case of the citizens of Serbia north of the Ibar is different in any case.

In other cases, the 'would-be secessionists' are already part of an existing state AND have accepted membership in the existing state previously (either born there or nationalised).

Neither of these two criteria applies to the serbs in the north of Kosovo.

Repeating my question..

What possible justification can K-albanians have for claiming the parts of Kosovo, in which serbs are a majority, and which are adjacent to Serbia proper? "

I do not seriously expect you to answer this as your only purpose is to spread false propaganda.

But by all means, keep it up.. not only illustrates your lack of credibility, but also gives the pro K-serb camp yet another opportunity to present the real truth of the situation.

Maks,
History is one thing and what you post is another.
You wrote:
"Cyprus and Kosovo have a strong support from US"
I wrote:
"Cyprus is backed by the US????????
Really? And so it wasnt the usa that encouraged the turkish invasion at '74"
You wrote:
"The coup was sponsored by the USA " (the connection of invasion with the junda is obvious)

I wrote:
"it isnt the usa that is putting pressure on the Cypriots to accept their island's division"
Who was sponsoring the Annan plan for the division of the island recently?

I wrote:
"it isnt the usa that protects turkey in all international fora on this issue?"
And everybody in here is upset with Greece veto on FYROM's entry in nato, but noone is saying any kind of word for the tenths of veto's Turey is putting against Cyprus with the backing of usa. And you think that if the usa should order the turks to withdraw from the island, they would say no?

Again history as you wrote it is correct, but also history is what is done, and not what will be in the future. And what is done so far, is the pure reflection Cyprus-Serbia and not Cyprus-Kossovo.

“Furthermore, Kosovo's declaration of independence was unilateral and it does not have the support of the UN Security Council. That is why it is not possible for Cyprus to recognize Kosovo,” Kyprianou said.
Cypriots are not stupid. They want to buy time and support for their own interest. At the end they will recognize Kosovo independence and they will be strong supporter of keeping unchanged Kosovo border and keeping Mitrovica (North of Kosovo) inside of unified Kosovo state as they want Norht of Cyprus to be integral part of Unified Cyprus.
It is not the first time that Serbs commentors in this site get it wrong. Please go back not much but just a few months and read comments about Kosovo independence. Sometime Serbs made fun with "delay" of Kosovo Independence. Even more wrong they call it UDI instead of CDI - COORDINATED DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. Get it?

DimTuci

A democratic Kosova in the heart of Balkans will ensure security and stability. You are right, but no one is blaming Cyprus for its' current stance.

Dead wrong. Cyprus will, alright, just will take its time for understandable reasons (understandable like those of Bosnia).

But in reality, Cyprus and Kosova have much in common:

‘A united Cyprus first fruit of Kosovos independence?’
http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080329814/Views-and-Analysis/A-united-Cyprus-first-fruit-of-Kosovo-s-independence.html

No problem.The say when Cyprus will recognise Kosva will come same as UN seat. There is no rush.

The “Holy Mighty” uncle Sam can “force” to recognize Kosova’s independence countries like:

UK, France, Germany, Italy, Japan etc.,

but is powerless in front of the magnificence of Cyprus?

elucidation is needed Serbian camp ;)

*Maks
Wht you probablydidnt understand is that ther isnt any kind of comparison between Cyprus and Kossov, but between CYprus and Serbia.
And it is actually UDI in only Kossovo's case and not in Cyprus case, since there is the military invasion of Turkey and the ongoing occupation by turkish army.
Cyprus will not recognise Kossovo until their own problem is resolved satisfactory for them.

And why and how on earth will ever Kossovo be able to enter the eu? Who is so arrogant to even imagine a possible enter in the next 25 years?

I am sure the albanians here will start hurling their insults at Cyprus and their 'insignificance'. But remember this, without Cyprus' agreement, you will never be able to enter the EU. And without Russia's or China's agreement, you will never be able to join the UN.
What you are is another 'North Cyprus' type place, with no status. I guess this is what Bushie means with his double speak of 'controlled independence'. Controlled by NATO and outsiders, but yet somehow 'independent'...lol. What a joke.

If and when the Greeks and Turks on Cyprus settle the problem, there should be only one lesson learned by Albanians and Serbs. 40 odd years of conflict may pass, sucking the strength of your diplomatic corp, eating into the prosperity of both your nations, while the rest of the world goes on its way trying to survive in the face of depleting resources and global warming. And in the end, when you have grown tired of it all, after half a century, you will probably just come to your senses and accept a solution which, really, you might as well accept right now. That being, one that entails considerable sacrifice from both communities.

Or you can just suffer for 40 years.

DimTuc:

What on earth gives you the idea that Nicosia will ever recognise the UDI without UN recognition? Just because the two sides are talking about reunification?

Cyprus has far more reason than most to respect the UN charter, little though it might be. The true reality is that Cyprus has far more in common with Serbia than any so called 'republic of Kosovo'.

Incidentally, declaring independence does make an entity independent. With respect to the situation in Kosovo, the opposite is clearly the case. The 'pseudo-state' there is totally dependent on external support & will remain that way - which is exactly what Washington wants.

Maks:

Do you really think that the Greek Cypriots have forgotten the last 34 years?
I personally doubt it - but if you so believe, is fine with me.

As for refering to K-albanian declaration as unilateral, is simply the truth. Is not bilateral as Serbia does not accept it, hence by definition, is unilateral

Also might point out that co-ordinated declaration of independence (CDI) doesn't really make a lot sense - as US et al, while they certainly support a K-albanian UDI, are in fact, NOT declaring independence. How's about US SUDI instead? ('S' for supported).

And since you brought up the subject, what possible justification can K-albanians have for claiming the northern part of Kosovo in which serbs are a majority, and which are adjacent to Serbia proper?

And no spurious arguments referring to 'precedents being set' please - most would argue that such is hypocrisy coming from a supporter of the K-albanian UDI.

And bear in mind that the case of the citizens of Serbia north of the Ibar is different in any case.

In other cases, the 'would-be secessionists' are already part of an existing state AND have accepted membership in the existing state previously (either born there or nationalised).

Neither of these two criteria applies to the serbs in the north of Kosovo.

Repeating my question..

What possible justification can K-albanians have for claiming the parts of Kosovo, in which serbs are a majority, and which are adjacent to Serbia proper?

"Kyprianou stated that the reasons for this were that its independence was declared unilaterally and did not have the support of the UN Security Council."

Now that says it all for those who believe in the rule of law. The Rule of Law. Remember that?

The statements that so often come from the goverment of the Republic of Cyprus are a breath of fresh air in this turbulent times.It is certain
that Cyprus will never recognise Kosovo as a separate entity from Serbia.
Cyprus and Serbia share the same illegal UDIs and they've
witnessed war,refugees and partition.With regard to the solutionn of the Cyprus problem this may or may not happen at all because of the internal politics in Turkey.

Dan Asta
#7

Serbs have been wanting to settle with an agreement with lawless Albanian-Serbs in Kosovo INSIDE of Serbia, but they don't want to negotiate. Maybe you forgot there was an illegal udi by the lawless Albanian-Serbs in Kosovo INSIDE of Serbia. They don't listen, don't care, don't communicate, and will regret their UDI.

The Greek Cypriots have effectively given up property rights in the north, as well as gov't rights, as the north will become it's own autonomous unit. 200,000 Greek Cypriots were ethnically cleansed from the north, the majority never to return. Indeed, no resettlement will happen inside the part of the country to be controlled by Turkish Cypriots. They have come to grips with this fait accompli. The main source of agitation right now is the presence of Turkish troops.

You can bet that unless the Albanians and Serbs cut a satisfactory deal (and Albanians would not be satisfied at all within Serbia) then this wound will continue on as Cyprus did. This also goes for Serbia as well. It has to be satisfied. Meaning: both must make difficult compromises. So far, Albanians have compromised very little in this dispute.

Dan Asta

Albanians may have compromised a little... but Serbia has not compromised at all. Despite all that happened in 1999, Serbia still thinks it can turn back the clock with that vague "extensive autonomy" concept that it tries to peddle.

Northern Cyprus was recognized only by Turkey. Kosovo is recognized by most of the Western world. That makes a huge difference.

As an FYI for the other camp... The entire Western Europe was dependent on the United States after the WWII, economically, politically, and militarily. They all got back on their own feet eventually. So will Kosovo. Don't confuse short term with long term circumstances. One more thing... you folks still underestimate the Kosovar Albanians' resolve never to be ruled by Serbia again.

Thank you Cyprus

*Maks
Wht you probably didnt understand is that ther isnt any kind of comparison between Cyprus and Kossov, but between CYprus and Serbia.
And it is actually UDI in only Kossovo's case and not in Cyprus case, since there is the military invasion of Turkey and the ongoing occupation by turkish army.
Cyprus will not recognise Kossovo until their own problem is resolved satisfactory for them.

And why and how on earth will ever Kossovo be able to enter the eu? Who is so arrogant to even imagine a possible enter in the next 25 years?
(Nikitas, 1 April 2008 17:55)
Cyprus and Kosovo is the best comparision ever.
Cyprus and Kosovo are two countries that have another mother nation country each are respectively Greece and Albania.
Cyprus and Kosovo are occupied by respectively Turkey and Serbia on 11th century.
Cyprus and Kosovo have their north part still occupied and with majority an occupied nation respectively Turkish majority and Serbs majority.
Cyprus and Kosovo have a strong support from US and most of Western powers.
The only difference between Cyprus and Kosovo is religion and just for that reason Russia is in Cyprus side and in the same time against Kosovo side.

Maks is completely right in this analogy.

But that is why the Ahtisaari Plan needs to be replaced by a Kosovar version of the Annan Plan - a b-zonal, bi-communal (Albanian and Serb) independent, sovereign Kosovo/a federation.

*16 Maks

You should be more careful when talking about issues you probably dont know about.
Cyprus is backed by the US????????
Really? And so it wasnt the usa that encouraged the turkish invasion at '74 and it isnt the usa that is putting pressure on the Cypriots to accept their island's division and it isnt the usa that protects turkey in all international fora on this issue?

Besides, Cyprus didnt ever declared their UDI from Turkey or Greece, instead a part of Cyprus has declared that UDI after an illegal military intervention by a foreign country. That sounds more similar in comparing Cyprus with Serbia than Kossovo, sorry. :)

Besides, the only similar thing between Cyprus and Kossovo could be that Cyprus isnt backed up by the international community, as also is Kossovo ;)

*16 Maks
You should be more careful when talking about issues you probably dont know about.
Cyprus is backed by the US????????
Really? And so it wasnt the usa that encouraged the turkish invasion at '74 and it isnt the usa that is putting pressure on the Cypriots to accept their island's division and it isnt the usa that protects turkey in all international fora on this issue?
…
(Nikitas, 2 April 2008 14:10)
Again Nikitas, you are dead wrong. Please read the history.
“By 1974, dissatisfaction among right-wing Greek nationalists favoring the long-term goal of unification with Greece precipitated a coup d'etat against intending to assassinate President Makarios and declare Union with Greece. The coup was sponsored by the USA backed the military government of Greece and led by Greek officers in the Cypriot National Guard. The new regime replaced Makarios -who escaped the assassination attempt- with Nikos Giorgiades Sampson as president and Bishop Gennadios as head of the Cypriot Orthodox Church. Seven days later, on 20 July 1974, Turkey launched an air- and sea-based invasion of Cyprus, claiming its aim was "to re-instate the constitution of the Republic of Cyprus" per its obligation under the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee.”
The analogy on this case would be: The right-wing Albanian nationalist favoring long-term goal of unification with Albania, precipitate a coup d’etat against intending to assassinate President Seidiu (Kosovo president) and declare Union with Albania. The coup was sponsored by USA backed the military government of Albania and lead by Albanian officers in the Kosovo National Guard or Kosovo Police Force whatever is fit for that comparison. Days later Serbia launched an invasion of Kosovo and took control of the north of Ibar River, claiming to “re-instate the constitution of Kosovo based on Ahtisari plan.
So my friend NEVER US took side of Turkey. US might have tolerated Turkey invasion of the North as it might tolerate invasion of North of Kosovo if K-Albanians are that stupid to go against Contact Group principle of “Kosovo will not be divided and will not be part of a neighbor country (Albania).” So you see that Cyprus and Kosovo are the best comparison and it is best to learn by Greek Cypriot mistake to not to ask neither for division nor for unification with Albania.

Maks:

You have certainly been active in this thread. But you still have not answered my post.

I will repeat relevant part of my post again.

"And since you brought up the subject, what possible justification can K-albanians have for claiming the northern part of Kosovo in which serbs are a majority, and which are adjacent to Serbia proper?

And no spurious arguments referring to 'precedents being set' please - most would argue that such is hypocrisy coming from a supporter of the K-albanian UDI.

And bear in mind that the case of the citizens of Serbia north of the Ibar is different in any case.

In other cases, the 'would-be secessionists' are already part of an existing state AND have accepted membership in the existing state previously (either born there or nationalised).

Neither of these two criteria applies to the serbs in the north of Kosovo.

Repeating my question..

What possible justification can K-albanians have for claiming the parts of Kosovo, in which serbs are a majority, and which are adjacent to Serbia proper? "

I do not seriously expect you to answer this as your only purpose is to spread false propaganda.

But by all means, keep it up.. not only illustrates your lack of credibility, but also gives the pro K-serb camp yet another opportunity to present the real truth of the situation.

Maks,
History is one thing and what you post is another.
You wrote:
"Cyprus and Kosovo have a strong support from US"
I wrote:
"Cyprus is backed by the US????????
Really? And so it wasnt the usa that encouraged the turkish invasion at '74"
You wrote:
"The coup was sponsored by the USA " (the connection of invasion with the junda is obvious)

I wrote:
"it isnt the usa that is putting pressure on the Cypriots to accept their island's division"
Who was sponsoring the Annan plan for the division of the island recently?

I wrote:
"it isnt the usa that protects turkey in all international fora on this issue?"
And everybody in here is upset with Greece veto on FYROM's entry in nato, but noone is saying any kind of word for the tenths of veto's Turey is putting against Cyprus with the backing of usa. And you think that if the usa should order the turks to withdraw from the island, they would say no?

Again history as you wrote it is correct, but also history is what is done, and not what will be in the future. And what is done so far, is the pure reflection Cyprus-Serbia and not Cyprus-Kossovo.