Jeremić takes diplomatic battle to Brazil

This diplomatic offensive being conducted by Jeremic and others is exactly the right approach at the moment. It is a pity it didn't start earlier, but it is still possible to stop the recognition process in its tracks. Does anyone agree with me that Jeremic seems more committed to the Kosovo issue than Tadic is?

Vuk Jeremic is a modern day Tsar Lazar that could potentially keep Kosovo within Serbia. Jeremic is slowly but surely getting individual countries to abstain recognition enabling Serbia to acquire the 92 UN members count required to challenge the legitimacy of the UDI in the International Court of Justice. So far looks like his hardworking intelligent approach is working.

Kosovo is Serbia, Serbia is Kosovo

I love Brazil! And as far as The Times has reported they are completely against the recognition of Kosovo and the EU is rather dissapointed with this possition because thay are a huge state...

On the other hand, lots of other LA countries are nothing more that US satelites (modern colonies) and they do not want to upset the master. As Costa Rica has already shown...

If Brazil offically does not recognize Kosovo (like they said in the past)as an illegal lawless country one can thank Vuk to some extent, but Spain has a HUGE influence in South America. Spain is their grandfather state.


Thank you Spain!!

I think Jeremic should change parties. I mean, he's a young, energetic man who is trying to defend Kosovo with everything he can, while the party's leader, is sitting in Serbia (or taking trips to Romania ;)) and counting the money he get's from the EU and US for betraying his country. That's one option. The other one is Jeremic taking over DS, that would be a sight.

Tom O'Donoghue

I agree with you. I just don’t know is Jermic’s diplomatic action in DS line concerning Kosovo or is it a part of the action plan. However, what ever it is I always admired Jermic and to be honest I would like to see him in next government in same position. I think that Jeremic should move closer to Mr Kostunica.

Brazil is an important BRIC in Serbia's diplomatic effort.

Maks:
"Vuk Jeremić knows better then onyone of us that the tactical "slow down" of Kosovo recognition is done on purpose to not activate radical forces on May 11 elections in Serbia. "

Uh-huh.. and black is white & white is black.

Dream on mate.

bmrusila, Crveni Vuk

Based on his statements and speeches - some of which have been brilliant - I felt that Mr Jeremic was closer to Mr Kostunica than to Mr Tadic on policy towards Kosovo. Maybe he will jump ship or else replace Mr Tadic as leader of DS. Whatever way he goes it seems certain that he will do all he can for the territorial integrity of Serbia.

Jeremic seems to a modern wise and very keen politician. He went to so many countries and he gets the result. Brilliant!
His approach reminds me Sarkozy or Blair's.
How old is he? Not more than 35-40 I guess...
You're lucky to have such a minister. I expect him to build a great career.

I agree, Vuk should be visiting those countries that have already recognised Kosovo, and also those that are waivering, like Czech Rep and Cyprus. He should visit Britain, France , Germany and USA. I am sure that there is still alot of sympathy in all those nations for Serbia. Visiting Brazil on the other hand, pointless effort, not just because they have said they back Serbia, but also because they don't exactly have much clout in the world stage, plus any country with human rights issues such as Brazil (like shooting street kids) should sort their own back yard out before interfering elsewhere. On the point of interference, i have heard so many pro serbia people complain about external medling in Europe from trans-atlantic nations, so why in this case have you chosen to keep quiet about Brazil and other people like Chavez (Unstable)sticking their noses in? Dont get me wrong guys, I am 100 percent behind Serbia, but appreciate that we can't be hypocritical just because it suits.

i agree totally with the fella who noticed how ridiculous this is, jeremic travelling to the countries that have already said loud and clear no to kosovo. this is just part of the ds election campaign, where jeremic, who btw was a member of sps youth in 1990s, is the good cop to say, sutanovac and co bad cop, when it comes to kosovo. what this guy says and does means nothing. he's just trying to convince voters that ds is not betraying kosovo. but it is and loud and clear every day. so let jeremic enjoy his last month as fm travelling to exotic places. why not.

#7 Luigi
#9 KS

Make some good points!

Why isn't Vuk going to Macedonia and talking to officals there. He should have been in the Czech Republic the govt there is split. He should have gone to Croatia, they didn't recognize until a month later. These countries he is going to have already made there descions. I want to see France or Italy change there views. There is a lot of time until the UN meetings in September.
Anything can happen. I think we should wait before he is proclaimed modern day Tsar Lazar.

Vuk Jeremić knows better then onyone of us that the tactical "slow down" of Kosovo recognition is done on purpose to not activate radical forces on May 11 elections in Serbia.
India and Brazil want a seat on UN permanent members when UN will be reorganized so they don’t move to give Russia and China the reason to oppose their membership.
Jeremić's "move" to Brazil is more for "internal election use" then the real solution.
Some naïve here are still dreaming to keep Kosovo as Serbia colony in middle of Europe. Many times I have written here that the truth about Kosovo and Serbian "action plan" is better known from high rank Serbian officials who time after time give up some of the truth to wake up the Serbian people. They cannot do it immediately because of their political reason like any politician in the world.

"because they believe in the principle of self-determination and realize that it is the best move for peace and stability in the region."

In a child’s fairytale this is true but not in politics.

Foreign Policy, of any country, is based on self-serving benefits.

Countries have no friends…they have only interests.

Just to make clear that the brazilian government is not AGAINST the independence of Kosovo, but it hopes both sides can reach a bilateral agreement - even if means, independence for Kosovo.

Yet, we are quite far - both geographically and culturally - from that issue. Everything, both Serbs and Albanians can expect from us is some naive advices about peace and mutual understanding.

Maybe Brazil does not seem a very important name in the world game. but let's give a closer look.

It is the 8th economic power of the world for IMF, in front of Russia, Italy, Spain, South Korea, Canada and Australia, with an economy as big as France.

Unfortunatelly a bit far from the Balkans... Some supermarket chain could replace Merkator, and we would have cheap tropical items, or even maybe, a carnival parade ;)

it's nice to knonw that while you are in your office working there is someone who is travelling around the world visiting beautifoul places and also receving a lot of warm welcomes..
And till now the results of all this trips have been very good Kosovo has received almost no recognitions in Asia -Africa-Latin America..
So everything fine ?
Well there is also the flip side and this one is more bitter because it happens that Serbia is geographically,historically and culturally and above all economically linked in another continent called ...EUROPE..
In this continent that mr. Jeremic is not visiting things are goinng in a different way and maybe he wouln't receive so much applause..
Well i still think that the Serbian minister of foreign affairs in this moment ought to be in Paris or London or Rome or Madrid sure places not like Copacabana's beaches ..but more important for the future of the country...

Jeremic to join Kostunica's old age pensioner brigade? you've got to be kidding!

if Kostunica wanted to resolve Kosovo peacefully, diplomatically, he'd have secured control of the foreign ministry in advance of UDI.

but he didn't.

he wanted the interior ministry, and we've seen the disastrous results of that, setting Serbia's image back by about a decade

I'm continually amazed by the Serbian people, which never seem to consider that the countries which recognized KOsova's independence did so of their own volition because they believe in the principle of self-determination and realize that it is the best move for peace and stability in the region.

The United States has sway, but it cannot force any country to do anything. The unfortunate thing is that countries which are on friendly terms with the US aren't recognizing just to maintain that friendship, but instead countries which oppose and even despise the US are NOT recognizing just to spite America. This is the case with many Latin American countries such as Venezuela and will likely be the case with Brazil.

@25

You really seem so well informed... Brazil doesn't even have a prime minister. Please, let me know when the King of France appear around

"He said that it was vital that Latin American countries did not start a process of recognition en masse, adding that they were under great pressure to so from other very influential countries"

When it doesn't suit Serbia's policies the we are talking about "GREAT PRESSURE FROM VERY INFLUENTAL COUNTRIES"

To me that means being disrespectful towards other sovereign countries that do not agree with you.

As I have mentioned in one of my comments " The Latest in deciding whether to recognise Kosova's independence less relevant are as country"

@JB EIRE

I do not know if it is really hard for you to understand but again: Brazil is not backing Serbia, by not recognizing the Kosovo Independence. And also, not being against Albanian Kosovars. Matter of fact, only thing Brazilian government is supporting is plain and simple - further talks and bilateral agreement.

Maybe, we are naive in that matter: Albanians and Serbs maybe never will reach any agreement. But recognizing that it is impossible, just would mean that we think Balkan people are irrational animals, what I do not believe so.

Jeremic's agenda seems very aimless but very productive for the Kosovar Independence. In fact, Jeremic is only accelerating the process by explaining certain issues such as : "Kosovo is an ethnic conflict, not a religion one", a stance the US policy has followed ever since it took the issue of Kosovo in its hands. The political tactics of Jeremic will hardly strengthen Serbia's position on the issue of Kosovo. The latest UN review, acknowledges one important event: "Kosovo declared Independence, indirectly recognizing the new reality while politely attempting to keep it calm at the UN. Not sure how much informative B92 was on this event, but Mr. Ban's statement on Kosovo and its leadership has left a deep impression of Excellency at this newest state of the world. This impression is going to play a major role in the second wave of recognitions which it's going to be a very surprising thing for most of the Serbian politicians. The UN has retired Mr. Ahtisari and Rahn. The UN has removed its pre 2/17 maps, thus sealing the final status of Kosovo, now an independent and sovereign republic.
Serbia is rather convinced that the process of recognition is an unstoppable thing. It seems to be admitted even by the B92 commentators who believe that stagnation or delay of more recognition would result to the UN court rule. Serbia will have a difficult case to present, since Serbia was the country which it obstacle the process of the UN, broke the international laws by committing genocide in Kosovo and more over resolution 1244 does not define the status of Kosovo nor mentions Serbia in any substance.
Ultimately, the UN court is not decision body of the to any legality to the International law, nor can carry out orders to change, retain or compromise any issue regarding Kosovo. Understandably, Serbia is buying time for its upcoming elections.
Brazil will recognize Kosovo as well. The information I have received, Brazil's President and Prime Minister have told Jeremic they have no time to meet him, instead a low rank politicians of Brazil were hosts of this event.

Have a good day!

Jeremic is wasting Serbian tax money on all these plane trips. He has accomplished nothing but revoke a statement. I think we all knew the stance of Brazil prior to reading this.

Phase 2 begins July 27th.

I know its a long shot.. but when the majority government of SRS-DSS-NS-SPS-PUPS-JS is formed.. I would love to see Jeremic stay on as the governments foreign minister even if he doesn't switch parties..

good job Vuk! even though your mentor doesn't seem to think so.. thank you for defending Serbia!!!!!

Jeremic just likes to tour the entire world and see all the continents with his own eyes before the May elections in Serbia.

Because so far, in all the beautiful trips that he has taken around the globe, he hasn't achieved an ounce of anything.

Let's see, what's another luxurious trip that he should go to and enjoy himself? Hmm, how about Dubai? C'mon Mr. Jeremic, go to the United Arab Emirates and ask them to refuse independence as well. And in the meantime, don't forget to have fun and check out everything Dubai has to offer!

That's all he does on these plane trips. Wastes Serb tax money and fuel.

Of the 36 countries that have recognized Kosovo, together they hold 70% of the world's GDP.

American:

Lovely smorgasbord of inconsistency & outright misrepresentation. Hmm.. what to pick..

Ah.. here's something:

> Serbia will have a difficult case to present, since Serbia was the country which it obstacle the

process of the UN, broke the international laws by committing genocide in Kosovo...

Genocide in Kosovo?

Seems that the ICRC & even the ICTY do not agree with you. The latter which is no fan of the serbs has released reports that show that there was NO genocide in Kosovo. Seems all those mass graves did not exist afterall.

Perhaps you do not know what the word 'genocide' means.. Is a reference book called a dictionary in which you can look up the meaning. Try it some time.

Oh, & try to keep under cover. Seems that pig's fly where you live. When they realise that they cannot in fact fly, your situation may become a touch precarious.

Jeremic is wasting Serbian tax money on all these plane trips. He has accomplished nothing but revoke a statement. I think we all knew the stance of Brazil prior to reading this.

Phase 2 begins July 27th.

I'm continually amazed by the Serbian people, which never seem to consider that the countries which recognized KOsova's independence did so of their own volition because they believe in the principle of self-determination and realize that it is the best move for peace and stability in the region.

The United States has sway, but it cannot force any country to do anything. The unfortunate thing is that countries which are on friendly terms with the US aren't recognizing just to maintain that friendship, but instead countries which oppose and even despise the US are NOT recognizing just to spite America. This is the case with many Latin American countries such as Venezuela and will likely be the case with Brazil.

Vuk Jeremic is a modern day Tsar Lazar that could potentially keep Kosovo within Serbia. Jeremic is slowly but surely getting individual countries to abstain recognition enabling Serbia to acquire the 92 UN members count required to challenge the legitimacy of the UDI in the International Court of Justice. So far looks like his hardworking intelligent approach is working.

Kosovo is Serbia, Serbia is Kosovo

it's nice to knonw that while you are in your office working there is someone who is travelling around the world visiting beautifoul places and also receving a lot of warm welcomes..
And till now the results of all this trips have been very good Kosovo has received almost no recognitions in Asia -Africa-Latin America..
So everything fine ?
Well there is also the flip side and this one is more bitter because it happens that Serbia is geographically,historically and culturally and above all economically linked in another continent called ...EUROPE..
In this continent that mr. Jeremic is not visiting things are goinng in a different way and maybe he wouln't receive so much applause..
Well i still think that the Serbian minister of foreign affairs in this moment ought to be in Paris or London or Rome or Madrid sure places not like Copacabana's beaches ..but more important for the future of the country...

Vuk Jeremić knows better then onyone of us that the tactical "slow down" of Kosovo recognition is done on purpose to not activate radical forces on May 11 elections in Serbia.
India and Brazil want a seat on UN permanent members when UN will be reorganized so they don’t move to give Russia and China the reason to oppose their membership.
Jeremić's "move" to Brazil is more for "internal election use" then the real solution.
Some naïve here are still dreaming to keep Kosovo as Serbia colony in middle of Europe. Many times I have written here that the truth about Kosovo and Serbian "action plan" is better known from high rank Serbian officials who time after time give up some of the truth to wake up the Serbian people. They cannot do it immediately because of their political reason like any politician in the world.

"He said that it was vital that Latin American countries did not start a process of recognition en masse, adding that they were under great pressure to so from other very influential countries"

When it doesn't suit Serbia's policies the we are talking about "GREAT PRESSURE FROM VERY INFLUENTAL COUNTRIES"

To me that means being disrespectful towards other sovereign countries that do not agree with you.

As I have mentioned in one of my comments " The Latest in deciding whether to recognise Kosova's independence less relevant are as country"

Tom O'Donoghue

I agree with you. I just don’t know is Jermic’s diplomatic action in DS line concerning Kosovo or is it a part of the action plan. However, what ever it is I always admired Jermic and to be honest I would like to see him in next government in same position. I think that Jeremic should move closer to Mr Kostunica.

I love Brazil! And as far as The Times has reported they are completely against the recognition of Kosovo and the EU is rather dissapointed with this possition because thay are a huge state...

On the other hand, lots of other LA countries are nothing more that US satelites (modern colonies) and they do not want to upset the master. As Costa Rica has already shown...

I agree, Vuk should be visiting those countries that have already recognised Kosovo, and also those that are waivering, like Czech Rep and Cyprus. He should visit Britain, France , Germany and USA. I am sure that there is still alot of sympathy in all those nations for Serbia. Visiting Brazil on the other hand, pointless effort, not just because they have said they back Serbia, but also because they don't exactly have much clout in the world stage, plus any country with human rights issues such as Brazil (like shooting street kids) should sort their own back yard out before interfering elsewhere. On the point of interference, i have heard so many pro serbia people complain about external medling in Europe from trans-atlantic nations, so why in this case have you chosen to keep quiet about Brazil and other people like Chavez (Unstable)sticking their noses in? Dont get me wrong guys, I am 100 percent behind Serbia, but appreciate that we can't be hypocritical just because it suits.

This diplomatic offensive being conducted by Jeremic and others is exactly the right approach at the moment. It is a pity it didn't start earlier, but it is still possible to stop the recognition process in its tracks. Does anyone agree with me that Jeremic seems more committed to the Kosovo issue than Tadic is?

I think Jeremic should change parties. I mean, he's a young, energetic man who is trying to defend Kosovo with everything he can, while the party's leader, is sitting in Serbia (or taking trips to Romania ;)) and counting the money he get's from the EU and US for betraying his country. That's one option. The other one is Jeremic taking over DS, that would be a sight.

If Brazil offically does not recognize Kosovo (like they said in the past)as an illegal lawless country one can thank Vuk to some extent, but Spain has a HUGE influence in South America. Spain is their grandfather state.


Thank you Spain!!

Jeremic just likes to tour the entire world and see all the continents with his own eyes before the May elections in Serbia.

Because so far, in all the beautiful trips that he has taken around the globe, he hasn't achieved an ounce of anything.

Let's see, what's another luxurious trip that he should go to and enjoy himself? Hmm, how about Dubai? C'mon Mr. Jeremic, go to the United Arab Emirates and ask them to refuse independence as well. And in the meantime, don't forget to have fun and check out everything Dubai has to offer!

That's all he does on these plane trips. Wastes Serb tax money and fuel.

Of the 36 countries that have recognized Kosovo, together they hold 70% of the world's GDP.

Jeremic's agenda seems very aimless but very productive for the Kosovar Independence. In fact, Jeremic is only accelerating the process by explaining certain issues such as : "Kosovo is an ethnic conflict, not a religion one", a stance the US policy has followed ever since it took the issue of Kosovo in its hands. The political tactics of Jeremic will hardly strengthen Serbia's position on the issue of Kosovo. The latest UN review, acknowledges one important event: "Kosovo declared Independence, indirectly recognizing the new reality while politely attempting to keep it calm at the UN. Not sure how much informative B92 was on this event, but Mr. Ban's statement on Kosovo and its leadership has left a deep impression of Excellency at this newest state of the world. This impression is going to play a major role in the second wave of recognitions which it's going to be a very surprising thing for most of the Serbian politicians. The UN has retired Mr. Ahtisari and Rahn. The UN has removed its pre 2/17 maps, thus sealing the final status of Kosovo, now an independent and sovereign republic.
Serbia is rather convinced that the process of recognition is an unstoppable thing. It seems to be admitted even by the B92 commentators who believe that stagnation or delay of more recognition would result to the UN court rule. Serbia will have a difficult case to present, since Serbia was the country which it obstacle the process of the UN, broke the international laws by committing genocide in Kosovo and more over resolution 1244 does not define the status of Kosovo nor mentions Serbia in any substance.
Ultimately, the UN court is not decision body of the to any legality to the International law, nor can carry out orders to change, retain or compromise any issue regarding Kosovo. Understandably, Serbia is buying time for its upcoming elections.
Brazil will recognize Kosovo as well. The information I have received, Brazil's President and Prime Minister have told Jeremic they have no time to meet him, instead a low rank politicians of Brazil were hosts of this event.

Have a good day!

Brazil is an important BRIC in Serbia's diplomatic effort.

Maks:
"Vuk Jeremić knows better then onyone of us that the tactical "slow down" of Kosovo recognition is done on purpose to not activate radical forces on May 11 elections in Serbia. "

Uh-huh.. and black is white & white is black.

Dream on mate.

bmrusila, Crveni Vuk

Based on his statements and speeches - some of which have been brilliant - I felt that Mr Jeremic was closer to Mr Kostunica than to Mr Tadic on policy towards Kosovo. Maybe he will jump ship or else replace Mr Tadic as leader of DS. Whatever way he goes it seems certain that he will do all he can for the territorial integrity of Serbia.

#7 Luigi
#9 KS

Make some good points!

Why isn't Vuk going to Macedonia and talking to officals there. He should have been in the Czech Republic the govt there is split. He should have gone to Croatia, they didn't recognize until a month later. These countries he is going to have already made there descions. I want to see France or Italy change there views. There is a lot of time until the UN meetings in September.
Anything can happen. I think we should wait before he is proclaimed modern day Tsar Lazar.

Jeremic seems to a modern wise and very keen politician. He went to so many countries and he gets the result. Brilliant!
His approach reminds me Sarkozy or Blair's.
How old is he? Not more than 35-40 I guess...
You're lucky to have such a minister. I expect him to build a great career.

Jeremic to join Kostunica's old age pensioner brigade? you've got to be kidding!

if Kostunica wanted to resolve Kosovo peacefully, diplomatically, he'd have secured control of the foreign ministry in advance of UDI.

but he didn't.

he wanted the interior ministry, and we've seen the disastrous results of that, setting Serbia's image back by about a decade

i agree totally with the fella who noticed how ridiculous this is, jeremic travelling to the countries that have already said loud and clear no to kosovo. this is just part of the ds election campaign, where jeremic, who btw was a member of sps youth in 1990s, is the good cop to say, sutanovac and co bad cop, when it comes to kosovo. what this guy says and does means nothing. he's just trying to convince voters that ds is not betraying kosovo. but it is and loud and clear every day. so let jeremic enjoy his last month as fm travelling to exotic places. why not.

Just to make clear that the brazilian government is not AGAINST the independence of Kosovo, but it hopes both sides can reach a bilateral agreement - even if means, independence for Kosovo.

Yet, we are quite far - both geographically and culturally - from that issue. Everything, both Serbs and Albanians can expect from us is some naive advices about peace and mutual understanding.

"because they believe in the principle of self-determination and realize that it is the best move for peace and stability in the region."

In a child’s fairytale this is true but not in politics.

Foreign Policy, of any country, is based on self-serving benefits.

Countries have no friends…they have only interests.

@JB EIRE

I do not know if it is really hard for you to understand but again: Brazil is not backing Serbia, by not recognizing the Kosovo Independence. And also, not being against Albanian Kosovars. Matter of fact, only thing Brazilian government is supporting is plain and simple - further talks and bilateral agreement.

Maybe, we are naive in that matter: Albanians and Serbs maybe never will reach any agreement. But recognizing that it is impossible, just would mean that we think Balkan people are irrational animals, what I do not believe so.

Maybe Brazil does not seem a very important name in the world game. but let's give a closer look.

It is the 8th economic power of the world for IMF, in front of Russia, Italy, Spain, South Korea, Canada and Australia, with an economy as big as France.

Unfortunatelly a bit far from the Balkans... Some supermarket chain could replace Merkator, and we would have cheap tropical items, or even maybe, a carnival parade ;)

I know its a long shot.. but when the majority government of SRS-DSS-NS-SPS-PUPS-JS is formed.. I would love to see Jeremic stay on as the governments foreign minister even if he doesn't switch parties..

good job Vuk! even though your mentor doesn't seem to think so.. thank you for defending Serbia!!!!!

@25

You really seem so well informed... Brazil doesn't even have a prime minister. Please, let me know when the King of France appear around

American:

Lovely smorgasbord of inconsistency & outright misrepresentation. Hmm.. what to pick..

Ah.. here's something:

> Serbia will have a difficult case to present, since Serbia was the country which it obstacle the

process of the UN, broke the international laws by committing genocide in Kosovo...

Genocide in Kosovo?

Seems that the ICRC & even the ICTY do not agree with you. The latter which is no fan of the serbs has released reports that show that there was NO genocide in Kosovo. Seems all those mass graves did not exist afterall.

Perhaps you do not know what the word 'genocide' means.. Is a reference book called a dictionary in which you can look up the meaning. Try it some time.

Oh, & try to keep under cover. Seems that pig's fly where you live. When they realise that they cannot in fact fly, your situation may become a touch precarious.