Russian officials condemn NATO bombing

One cannot see a parallel between the defeat of the Germans in 1918 and the Serbs in 1999. Neither of them has been defeated on the battle field but as a result of political betrayal.

In 1919 the Antanta in Versalles has treated the Germans as if they had lost the war. As a result the whole world received the WW2. Today the same Atntanta with their barking back vocals treat Serbia as if it has been won in the war and as if it's apointed to be the only guilty of the Balkan events.

Besides they are striving hard to close somehow the ugly page of March 1999 and K-Albanistan is just one of the tools implemented for that aim. But the world has changed and it's us who change it from one side dictate to more justice.

TO : luigi

Orthodox.ru i recomend you to read more carefully history ..

I RECOMMEND YOU TO READ MORE CAREFULLY THE POST YOU DISLIKED.

As you know it was not Germany who launched the WW1 and they never fought on their own soil while after Russia has stopped figting the German chances were good enough. All ruined after the November revolution of 1918 ... But because the Germans has never considered themselves to the loosers of WW1 they arranged the WW2 revenge.

Serbs too did not started the war of 1999 and they suffered no military defeat cause there were only bombings and no one dared to meet the nightmare of a land operation in the lands of Tito and the cetniks ...

Instead of November revolution the Serbs has got Chernomirdin to persuade Milosevic to give up while NATO had armaments for only more 2 weeks of bombing ...

For me the parallel is evident. Neither the Serbs nor the Germans did not started the two wars. Neither the Serrbs nor the Germans in the two wars discussed were not defeated or even demoralized enough on the battle field. While both the Serbs and the Germans were treated as if they were the only guilties defeated from military point of wiew.

My Grandpa used to be an army officer to be killed in 1942 in Belorussia . So if I were you I would also dislike such a comparison. But if you read my both posts carefully you will find no place for misunderstanding and confrontation.

If only your own Grandpa has not been killed within the 2-nd Italian Army somewhere in Stalingrad or captured by the Serbs in the Adriatics together with other 5 Italian divisions.

TO : luigi

It's nice of you to be friendly to Russia and it's nice of your Grandpa to have no blood on his hands ! Still I don't thik you know the WW1 & WW2 history as good as I do.

Especially as for the WW2 is concerned. We in Russia study it as the histories of our own families. It has touched everybody. I believe same in Serbia.

I can tell you how my Grandma stopped my 15 year old father from shooting 2 German soldiers and an officer to enter our house. I can tell you of a friendly German soldier to live 6 months in the house of my my mother aged 7 or of 38 men from my family including 4 brothers and their father not to be back from the war ... It's a long and a sad sad story ...

But for you those events may quite be something else. You hint that your HOW I WON THE WAR STORIES are better than those in our textbooks. I can tell you what it is in practice.

Few years ago they celebrated an anniversary of the second front opening 1 year before we took Berlin !!! Nether of the organizer pigs gave Putin to make a spech !!! 3 years we fought the fashists almost alone. The only European nation to be by our side from the very begining were the Serbs to compose the absolute majority of the two Yugoslavian armies.

Do you know that we lost 8000 troops in Yugoslavia (Belgrad operation) and over 600 000 ( plus 1 450 000 injured ) in Poland ... The Serbs has met our troops controlling 95% of the state.

Now if you wonder what the Polish sources say you will be surprised to know as if they had 4-th army (after USSR ,US & UK) !!! But if you ask them how many Polish troops were fighting in early 1945 you will find only 150 000 all within the Soviet Army . But when Berlin was surrounded the Poles has formed two more armies in the safe backyard of the Soviet Army .. Nevertheles the Peole's Army of Yugoslavia remained twice as big as the Polish with 4 years of fighting time against 6 months of the Poles ...

Tell me a Wetern book where you can find this truth ! Tell me what the hell France is doing in the UN Security Council ? This place must belong to Yugoslavia which tributed to the Victory dozens of times more than France and many European states put together. Give me a link where I can read this sight at the history ! Unless you know Russian don't even try !

Regards !

The NATO bombing of 1999 changed the history of NATO. Instead of being a "defence" army it began an "attack" army...

The results are seen in Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan...and we'll have a opportunity to see much more of them I'm sure!

I must admit I have never been pro Russia, but at least they have the guts to speak out and tell it how it was/is.

Shame on the other European countries who know the truths regarding these events and cower in the corner at the sight of American foriegn policies and George Bush and his idiotic offsider Condoleeza Rice

Luigi,
you just posted on a different article how you and Italy do not want the Serbs or the Albanians joining the EU and or infiltrating Italy. But here you are now stating the following
" have a lot of friends in Russia i go there at least 3-4 times every year for work "

i can't believe that our Slavic Russian brothers let you in their country to work. Secondly, if the EU membership is so great, why do you leave Italy and seek employment in Russia?
Please explain yourself, for i don't understand your objective view.

Why don't you return to Albania and stop taking Slavic jobs from the Russian people. You should be seeking employment throughout the EU membered States.

Ciao! from Canada

It was an experiment, indeed. Everyone can see that expect Albanians who still believe in friendly NATO bombs and depleted uranium that they inhale daily, only they believe in friendly USA and EU attitude towards them. But they will eventually realise once they stop serving the purpose.

TO : adrian/bucharest

1. First of all I express my respect to the Romanian police men in K-Mitrovica !

2. Second thing you should know is that in Russia and the Ukraine everybody will tell you that the Romanians were much more cruel than the Germans. So if I were you in the context of the discussion I would prefer to keep silent ... The only excusation for both of you ( with the Italian you defend now)is that both of your ancestors has never been good warriors. Tell me a battle one of them has won during the last 200 years ?

3. As for the "imposed communism" at least it was much better of what you had tried to impose together with Benito and Adolf.

Why don't you rebelled if it was so bad ? Look each state had it's own socialism. Of course the most ugly in the latest decades used to be the Romanian one. My regrets !

4. As for the "millions of people killed and deported" it's not quite true. We have statistics now and it says that in the USSR since 1936 up to 1953 about 880 000 were shot down including criminals and militaries during WW2. Yes it's very much too and it is condemned in Russia more than anywhere else. So we need no teachers to tell us what to do or how bad we are. Especially when the soun comes from Bucharest where they have absolutely no real achievements after Chaushescu.

5. As for "how happy you must feel when the whole planet knows the future president months before the elections" I can tell you for the first time in my life I did not vote. You are right.

But if you ask me wether Russia can afford free elections today I will say NO ! I will prefer Putin's Labrador dog named Conny. Such an elections would be immediately used by the West to weaken us again. Never more Russian peolpe will trust the West which ruled here 9 years of destruction and betrayal of what was important for us.

You should remember the difference between us. Unlike you we fight to the last blood but not the first one because we are born to be free ! Look you escaped one chain to put on another ...

6. We know what a war is and it's one of the reason why Russia is so delicate in Kosovo. We care of our brothers enough not to worsen their situation with a foolish step. Russia's support for Serbia will be much more effective than you may even imagine now. Just wait 2 more months for the power both in Moscow and Belgrad is divided.

TO : Another Canadian Serb

THANK YOU !

Whatever they say this time Serbia must not retreat but gain an acceptable compromise in both Kosovo and EU membership. While our relations should be taken as a Gospel. This talks either EU or Russia are as stupid as either your hand or your leg ect.

Good Luck !

Let Canada have their own K-Albanistan in Quebec !

Well said, but what next?

What is Russia going to do about this problem? I am hearing a lot of critisism but no solution. Clearly asking the US nicely isn't going to cut it.

Germany 1918 =Serbia 1999 !!!!
Orthodox.ru i recomend you to read more carefully history ..
Anyway opinions are opinions

TO : STEVAN

THANKS A LOT !

You are not "surrogates" you just like us cannot live in a cage even if it's made of gold. What I can see they want you to sacrifise two things :

1. Kosovo and Methohija i.e. national dignity.
2. Your special relations with Russia.

Both two will weaken you enough to dictate you the new terms of for your EU integration. Those fellows will stop only if they turn you into the fake K-Albanistan type of a puppet.

There are other tramps for the Serbs as well. Every new member of the EU gains less merits and is imposed more restrictions than the previous newcomers. So by the time they will be ready to accept you their carrot might not be same sweet.

On the other hand the Serbs has got a unique chance to gain much more from Russia. Look there are prospering states not involved into EU and there are EU members who will remain comparatevely poor even after 20 years of their integration. New members are accepted only for the prosperity of the old ones and very soon inside EU we shall see a smaller group of the original members being organised in a closer club.

I am rather optimistic about Serbia's future because Russia also cannot afford failing in such a vital for both of us matter as Kosovo crisis definetely is.

BEST REGARDS !

TO : adrian/bucharest

I did not mean to hurt you. I have nothing against Romanians. Once I was even close to marry a Romanian General's daughter with her mother a Russian ... At least Romania is not so aggressive towards Russia as Poland , Georgia, Britain and some other European states.

But frankly you resent policy has brought you neither prosperity nor independence. You failed to join Moldova , you gave your soil to narco traffic , you failed to be a part in South Stream , you have your own Magyarorsag in Pensilvania ect. But I believe some day you will manage to cope with all that !

Russia has got much more internal and external problems but we don't teach other peoples any longer. And we are no longer trusting the abroad voices.

So the only reason why I drop here sometimes is to give my personal moral support to the Serbs as mentally the closest to us nation in the Europe. And I also appreciate you for the Romanian position in the K-Albanistan crisis. Europe is utmost unjust towards the Serbs and the next time they may as well choose Romania as their victim ...

Cheers !

"… So the only reason why I drop here sometimes is to give my personal moral support to the Serbs as mentally the closest to us nation in the Europe. … "

ORTHODOX, your posts are most welcome, keep them coming.

We have a lot in common, indeed. West noticed that as well. I think that one of the main reasons that they singled us, Serbs, for the annihilation is precisely the fact that so many threads are connecting us ... West knows very well that they can't count on Serb cooperation in onslaught on Russia. We might steer trouble at their flanks again ... So, this time, they want to destroy us first, before going any further ... West sees Serbs as some kind of surrogate Russians. SFR Yugoslavia also had many similarities with SSSR. They could / can develop, test and perfect all sorts of strategies on us that they are planing to us against you at the later stage. They are doing to us what would they like to do to you, if they just could. So, watch closely what's happening here and learn ...

Hey Luigi,
why would an EU membered state such as Italy desire to do business in a Russian non EU state. Are you now saying that the EU is not that imperative to the economic success of a nation. Would Italy conduct business with Serbia if she were a non EU membered state. If so, then why is it so important in attaining EU membership status? Also, is it against the EU's Rules and Regulations to conduct trade with non EU membered states.
What is all the hoopla about in joining the EU and why are all EU membered states purchasing existing crown corporations from Serbia. Would you not agree that EU membered states have no choice but to deal with Serbia because they now own existing Serbian businesses.
The EU holds out her hand to Serbia, so that she can collect some financial compensation.
Luigi,
are you stating that Italy should not trade or do business with Serbia????

Ciao! from Canada

I have a lot of friends in Russia i go there at least 3-4 times every year for work and so i know that we have studied History in a different way..often when i talk with my friends we have different opinions based on the facts that in University our books say different things about some arguments..So the same with you anyway i respect all opinions..
My Grandpa actually was in Latin America during WWII and he enjoied himself very much..

Why nobody is listening to K-Serbs, after all it is them that are protesting everyday in the streets of Mitrovica and I believe it is about their life’s.

Of course, views of Serbs form diaspora are more important than of K-Serbs

ORTHODOX.RU, 25 March 2008 18:05
Maybe you are so kind to share with us some thoughts about the blessings of the 45 years of imposed communism over half of the continent or about the millions of people killed and deported by the "brave" soviet regimes or how happy you must feel when the whole planet knows the future president months before the elections.
I admit you have some point in your argumentation, but please remember that the situation in Kosovo is about PEOPLE, albanian and serbian, not about Yugoslavia or Putin's frustrations.

For Another Canadian Serb....:
i work for a company that employee over 85 people in Russia ..
I go there when they send me from Italy i'm emploied in Italy in a Italian firm....
Just for your knowledge Italy is the 2° economic patner of Russia don't you know ?
for example Southerstream is a joint company 50% Gazprom 50% ENI don't you know ?
There are some entire oblast in Russia that have energy from Enel don't you know ?

(ORTHODOX.RU, 25 March 2008 21:23)
Thanks for the comments. I have so much to shoot back, but I will leave it for later, some other forum.(like battles, numbers, fighting for our stolen land etc.)
I was criticizing cause your words were sounding like coming straight from Vladimir himself, but seems that i was able to drag something up more of you too:)

My opinion is clear..
I'm against Serbia and other states in EU , i think Eu made a terrible mistake when it grows from 12 to 27 ..but we can do business indipendently..
My firm for example makes business also with Iran and Venezuela not defenetly very friendly with Eu...

“… they want you to sacrifice two things … “
They want our total destruction as a state, as a people. Talk about our membership in EU is just a talk. Propaganda to confuse our electorate. After so much effort they went through to harm us, the last thing they want is to make us prosperous and happy all of the sudden. Certain circles want to keep us permanently out of EU: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8304
Besides, EU changed a lot in the last couple of years. There are no universal rules of the game anymore. It used to be that any new member was automatically entitled to the full rights as any other member, the moment of entering the EU. Not so any more. Now, it is on the case to case bases. New member can be object of any number of all kinds of restrictions, for the unlimited time. Sort of second rate member. Considering the fact that number of most powerful EU states have an axe to grind with us, we can’t expect any good coming out of it.

We need to cooperate with a rest of the world and let the EU for what it is. We can trade with them without becoming the member. And of course, we need urgently development of much closer cooperation in economy and military with Russia. Serbia has to modernize air force defense with a longer range missiles. It was very easy going for the NATO last time. They bombed from the great heights’, outside of our range, let the proxies do dirty and dangerous job on the ground… If we would just have S-300’s they would think twice next time … Also, I think Serb government should invite Russia to build couple of bases here. Why not bring Russian missiles closer to the NATO? They keep installing their rockets all over the place, ever closer to your borders. That needs to be answered!

BEST REGARDS!

Germany 1918 =Serbia 1999 !!!!
Orthodox.ru i recomend you to read more carefully history ..
Anyway opinions are opinions

Why nobody is listening to K-Serbs, after all it is them that are protesting everyday in the streets of Mitrovica and I believe it is about their life’s.

Of course, views of Serbs form diaspora are more important than of K-Serbs

ORTHODOX.RU, 25 March 2008 18:05
Maybe you are so kind to share with us some thoughts about the blessings of the 45 years of imposed communism over half of the continent or about the millions of people killed and deported by the "brave" soviet regimes or how happy you must feel when the whole planet knows the future president months before the elections.
I admit you have some point in your argumentation, but please remember that the situation in Kosovo is about PEOPLE, albanian and serbian, not about Yugoslavia or Putin's frustrations.

My opinion is clear..
I'm against Serbia and other states in EU , i think Eu made a terrible mistake when it grows from 12 to 27 ..but we can do business indipendently..
My firm for example makes business also with Iran and Venezuela not defenetly very friendly with Eu...

The NATO bombing of 1999 changed the history of NATO. Instead of being a "defence" army it began an "attack" army...

The results are seen in Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan...and we'll have a opportunity to see much more of them I'm sure!

It was an experiment, indeed. Everyone can see that expect Albanians who still believe in friendly NATO bombs and depleted uranium that they inhale daily, only they believe in friendly USA and EU attitude towards them. But they will eventually realise once they stop serving the purpose.

I must admit I have never been pro Russia, but at least they have the guts to speak out and tell it how it was/is.

Shame on the other European countries who know the truths regarding these events and cower in the corner at the sight of American foriegn policies and George Bush and his idiotic offsider Condoleeza Rice

Well said, but what next?

What is Russia going to do about this problem? I am hearing a lot of critisism but no solution. Clearly asking the US nicely isn't going to cut it.

One cannot see a parallel between the defeat of the Germans in 1918 and the Serbs in 1999. Neither of them has been defeated on the battle field but as a result of political betrayal.

In 1919 the Antanta in Versalles has treated the Germans as if they had lost the war. As a result the whole world received the WW2. Today the same Atntanta with their barking back vocals treat Serbia as if it has been won in the war and as if it's apointed to be the only guilty of the Balkan events.

Besides they are striving hard to close somehow the ugly page of March 1999 and K-Albanistan is just one of the tools implemented for that aim. But the world has changed and it's us who change it from one side dictate to more justice.

TO : luigi

Orthodox.ru i recomend you to read more carefully history ..

I RECOMMEND YOU TO READ MORE CAREFULLY THE POST YOU DISLIKED.

As you know it was not Germany who launched the WW1 and they never fought on their own soil while after Russia has stopped figting the German chances were good enough. All ruined after the November revolution of 1918 ... But because the Germans has never considered themselves to the loosers of WW1 they arranged the WW2 revenge.

Serbs too did not started the war of 1999 and they suffered no military defeat cause there were only bombings and no one dared to meet the nightmare of a land operation in the lands of Tito and the cetniks ...

Instead of November revolution the Serbs has got Chernomirdin to persuade Milosevic to give up while NATO had armaments for only more 2 weeks of bombing ...

For me the parallel is evident. Neither the Serbs nor the Germans did not started the two wars. Neither the Serrbs nor the Germans in the two wars discussed were not defeated or even demoralized enough on the battle field. While both the Serbs and the Germans were treated as if they were the only guilties defeated from military point of wiew.

My Grandpa used to be an army officer to be killed in 1942 in Belorussia . So if I were you I would also dislike such a comparison. But if you read my both posts carefully you will find no place for misunderstanding and confrontation.

If only your own Grandpa has not been killed within the 2-nd Italian Army somewhere in Stalingrad or captured by the Serbs in the Adriatics together with other 5 Italian divisions.

I have a lot of friends in Russia i go there at least 3-4 times every year for work and so i know that we have studied History in a different way..often when i talk with my friends we have different opinions based on the facts that in University our books say different things about some arguments..So the same with you anyway i respect all opinions..
My Grandpa actually was in Latin America during WWII and he enjoied himself very much..

TO : luigi

It's nice of you to be friendly to Russia and it's nice of your Grandpa to have no blood on his hands ! Still I don't thik you know the WW1 & WW2 history as good as I do.

Especially as for the WW2 is concerned. We in Russia study it as the histories of our own families. It has touched everybody. I believe same in Serbia.

I can tell you how my Grandma stopped my 15 year old father from shooting 2 German soldiers and an officer to enter our house. I can tell you of a friendly German soldier to live 6 months in the house of my my mother aged 7 or of 38 men from my family including 4 brothers and their father not to be back from the war ... It's a long and a sad sad story ...

But for you those events may quite be something else. You hint that your HOW I WON THE WAR STORIES are better than those in our textbooks. I can tell you what it is in practice.

Few years ago they celebrated an anniversary of the second front opening 1 year before we took Berlin !!! Nether of the organizer pigs gave Putin to make a spech !!! 3 years we fought the fashists almost alone. The only European nation to be by our side from the very begining were the Serbs to compose the absolute majority of the two Yugoslavian armies.

Do you know that we lost 8000 troops in Yugoslavia (Belgrad operation) and over 600 000 ( plus 1 450 000 injured ) in Poland ... The Serbs has met our troops controlling 95% of the state.

Now if you wonder what the Polish sources say you will be surprised to know as if they had 4-th army (after USSR ,US & UK) !!! But if you ask them how many Polish troops were fighting in early 1945 you will find only 150 000 all within the Soviet Army . But when Berlin was surrounded the Poles has formed two more armies in the safe backyard of the Soviet Army .. Nevertheles the Peole's Army of Yugoslavia remained twice as big as the Polish with 4 years of fighting time against 6 months of the Poles ...

Tell me a Wetern book where you can find this truth ! Tell me what the hell France is doing in the UN Security Council ? This place must belong to Yugoslavia which tributed to the Victory dozens of times more than France and many European states put together. Give me a link where I can read this sight at the history ! Unless you know Russian don't even try !

Regards !

Luigi,
you just posted on a different article how you and Italy do not want the Serbs or the Albanians joining the EU and or infiltrating Italy. But here you are now stating the following
" have a lot of friends in Russia i go there at least 3-4 times every year for work "

i can't believe that our Slavic Russian brothers let you in their country to work. Secondly, if the EU membership is so great, why do you leave Italy and seek employment in Russia?
Please explain yourself, for i don't understand your objective view.

Why don't you return to Albania and stop taking Slavic jobs from the Russian people. You should be seeking employment throughout the EU membered States.

Ciao! from Canada

For Another Canadian Serb....:
i work for a company that employee over 85 people in Russia ..
I go there when they send me from Italy i'm emploied in Italy in a Italian firm....
Just for your knowledge Italy is the 2° economic patner of Russia don't you know ?
for example Southerstream is a joint company 50% Gazprom 50% ENI don't you know ?
There are some entire oblast in Russia that have energy from Enel don't you know ?

TO : adrian/bucharest

1. First of all I express my respect to the Romanian police men in K-Mitrovica !

2. Second thing you should know is that in Russia and the Ukraine everybody will tell you that the Romanians were much more cruel than the Germans. So if I were you in the context of the discussion I would prefer to keep silent ... The only excusation for both of you ( with the Italian you defend now)is that both of your ancestors has never been good warriors. Tell me a battle one of them has won during the last 200 years ?

3. As for the "imposed communism" at least it was much better of what you had tried to impose together with Benito and Adolf.

Why don't you rebelled if it was so bad ? Look each state had it's own socialism. Of course the most ugly in the latest decades used to be the Romanian one. My regrets !

4. As for the "millions of people killed and deported" it's not quite true. We have statistics now and it says that in the USSR since 1936 up to 1953 about 880 000 were shot down including criminals and militaries during WW2. Yes it's very much too and it is condemned in Russia more than anywhere else. So we need no teachers to tell us what to do or how bad we are. Especially when the soun comes from Bucharest where they have absolutely no real achievements after Chaushescu.

5. As for "how happy you must feel when the whole planet knows the future president months before the elections" I can tell you for the first time in my life I did not vote. You are right.

But if you ask me wether Russia can afford free elections today I will say NO ! I will prefer Putin's Labrador dog named Conny. Such an elections would be immediately used by the West to weaken us again. Never more Russian peolpe will trust the West which ruled here 9 years of destruction and betrayal of what was important for us.

You should remember the difference between us. Unlike you we fight to the last blood but not the first one because we are born to be free ! Look you escaped one chain to put on another ...

6. We know what a war is and it's one of the reason why Russia is so delicate in Kosovo. We care of our brothers enough not to worsen their situation with a foolish step. Russia's support for Serbia will be much more effective than you may even imagine now. Just wait 2 more months for the power both in Moscow and Belgrad is divided.

TO : Another Canadian Serb

THANK YOU !

Whatever they say this time Serbia must not retreat but gain an acceptable compromise in both Kosovo and EU membership. While our relations should be taken as a Gospel. This talks either EU or Russia are as stupid as either your hand or your leg ect.

Good Luck !

Let Canada have their own K-Albanistan in Quebec !

(ORTHODOX.RU, 25 March 2008 21:23)
Thanks for the comments. I have so much to shoot back, but I will leave it for later, some other forum.(like battles, numbers, fighting for our stolen land etc.)
I was criticizing cause your words were sounding like coming straight from Vladimir himself, but seems that i was able to drag something up more of you too:)

Hey Luigi,
why would an EU membered state such as Italy desire to do business in a Russian non EU state. Are you now saying that the EU is not that imperative to the economic success of a nation. Would Italy conduct business with Serbia if she were a non EU membered state. If so, then why is it so important in attaining EU membership status? Also, is it against the EU's Rules and Regulations to conduct trade with non EU membered states.
What is all the hoopla about in joining the EU and why are all EU membered states purchasing existing crown corporations from Serbia. Would you not agree that EU membered states have no choice but to deal with Serbia because they now own existing Serbian businesses.
The EU holds out her hand to Serbia, so that she can collect some financial compensation.
Luigi,
are you stating that Italy should not trade or do business with Serbia????

Ciao! from Canada

TO : adrian/bucharest

I did not mean to hurt you. I have nothing against Romanians. Once I was even close to marry a Romanian General's daughter with her mother a Russian ... At least Romania is not so aggressive towards Russia as Poland , Georgia, Britain and some other European states.

But frankly you resent policy has brought you neither prosperity nor independence. You failed to join Moldova , you gave your soil to narco traffic , you failed to be a part in South Stream , you have your own Magyarorsag in Pensilvania ect. But I believe some day you will manage to cope with all that !

Russia has got much more internal and external problems but we don't teach other peoples any longer. And we are no longer trusting the abroad voices.

So the only reason why I drop here sometimes is to give my personal moral support to the Serbs as mentally the closest to us nation in the Europe. And I also appreciate you for the Romanian position in the K-Albanistan crisis. Europe is utmost unjust towards the Serbs and the next time they may as well choose Romania as their victim ...

Cheers !

"… So the only reason why I drop here sometimes is to give my personal moral support to the Serbs as mentally the closest to us nation in the Europe. … "

ORTHODOX, your posts are most welcome, keep them coming.

We have a lot in common, indeed. West noticed that as well. I think that one of the main reasons that they singled us, Serbs, for the annihilation is precisely the fact that so many threads are connecting us ... West knows very well that they can't count on Serb cooperation in onslaught on Russia. We might steer trouble at their flanks again ... So, this time, they want to destroy us first, before going any further ... West sees Serbs as some kind of surrogate Russians. SFR Yugoslavia also had many similarities with SSSR. They could / can develop, test and perfect all sorts of strategies on us that they are planing to us against you at the later stage. They are doing to us what would they like to do to you, if they just could. So, watch closely what's happening here and learn ...

TO : STEVAN

THANKS A LOT !

You are not "surrogates" you just like us cannot live in a cage even if it's made of gold. What I can see they want you to sacrifise two things :

1. Kosovo and Methohija i.e. national dignity.
2. Your special relations with Russia.

Both two will weaken you enough to dictate you the new terms of for your EU integration. Those fellows will stop only if they turn you into the fake K-Albanistan type of a puppet.

There are other tramps for the Serbs as well. Every new member of the EU gains less merits and is imposed more restrictions than the previous newcomers. So by the time they will be ready to accept you their carrot might not be same sweet.

On the other hand the Serbs has got a unique chance to gain much more from Russia. Look there are prospering states not involved into EU and there are EU members who will remain comparatevely poor even after 20 years of their integration. New members are accepted only for the prosperity of the old ones and very soon inside EU we shall see a smaller group of the original members being organised in a closer club.

I am rather optimistic about Serbia's future because Russia also cannot afford failing in such a vital for both of us matter as Kosovo crisis definetely is.

BEST REGARDS !

“… they want you to sacrifice two things … “
They want our total destruction as a state, as a people. Talk about our membership in EU is just a talk. Propaganda to confuse our electorate. After so much effort they went through to harm us, the last thing they want is to make us prosperous and happy all of the sudden. Certain circles want to keep us permanently out of EU: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8304
Besides, EU changed a lot in the last couple of years. There are no universal rules of the game anymore. It used to be that any new member was automatically entitled to the full rights as any other member, the moment of entering the EU. Not so any more. Now, it is on the case to case bases. New member can be object of any number of all kinds of restrictions, for the unlimited time. Sort of second rate member. Considering the fact that number of most powerful EU states have an axe to grind with us, we can’t expect any good coming out of it.

We need to cooperate with a rest of the world and let the EU for what it is. We can trade with them without becoming the member. And of course, we need urgently development of much closer cooperation in economy and military with Russia. Serbia has to modernize air force defense with a longer range missiles. It was very easy going for the NATO last time. They bombed from the great heights’, outside of our range, let the proxies do dirty and dangerous job on the ground… If we would just have S-300’s they would think twice next time … Also, I think Serb government should invite Russia to build couple of bases here. Why not bring Russian missiles closer to the NATO? They keep installing their rockets all over the place, ever closer to your borders. That needs to be answered!

BEST REGARDS!