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Thursday, 20.03.2008.

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Koštunica denounces Bush arms delivery

Prime Minister Vojislav Koštunica has slammed George Bush's decision to send arms to Kosovo.

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lili

pre 16 godina

why do you bother that much?croatia bought arms,slovenia bought arms,even macedonia is doing so,montenegro also,so why does that upset you serbs that much?
did you plan your return? then i understand that your are upset:these arms make things a little bit more difficult for you! And believe me,it's not kalash and bullets_albania has tonns of that at a very low price_ but it's sophisticated munitions in case you plan with your army to invade us. So it's only a defensive mesure,don't be so upset ,we are not going to attack you,no but we just plan to defend -and well defend -our country! why does that surprise you that much??

Jason

pre 16 godina

"We will make sure that there are no terrorist in Kosovo,"
(Eagle, 21 March 2008 20:30)

When are the new elections? I believe your leader falls in this category.

"and soon Kosovo will join in peacekeepping missions around the world. Hello new friend (NATO)."
(Eagle, 21 March 2008 20:30)

The world has seen how you treat your minorities for the last 9 years, they live behind barbed wire for their own protection - I'm not so sure peacekeeping falls in your job description (unless you're talking about being cannon fodder for the US war machine).

azir

pre 16 godina

Ana; the entire world supports George W. Bush and Hashim Thaci's war on terror.You are correct in declaring Albanians' strong support for our fine president's leadership.KLA/UCK is a result of Greater Serbia ethnic cleansing campaign and after three lost wars, later. Our freedom fighters were only defending the Kosovars from state sponsored aggression and we have been/are supported by USA,EU and NATO forces.Our UCK was never on any US terror list of any kind.Can you prove what you're claiming? There might of been a low level official who might of compared the tactics but he was quickly corrected by Joe DioGuardi of the AACL and the State Department.So your claim is completely false.Otherwise, we wouldn't have had universal support.Your suggestion that US/NATO bombing of Serbia because of a "certain blue dress" is really ridiculous, as if over 1 milion illegaly deported,thousands killed and kidnaped and tens of thousands homes burnt to the ground didn't play a role in NATO coming to our defense.

tesla

pre 16 godina

Its too bad for the Albanians. It means if there is ever war with Serbia, Serbia will have to use even bigger guns and send more soldiers to bring peace to Serbs in the province.

Eagle

pre 16 godina

Why are guys surprised about this. This is something normaml for a new country.
Thank you George W. Bush. We will make sure that there are no terrorist in Kosovo, and soon Kosovo will join in peacekeepping missions around the world. Hello new friend (NATO).

Delije

pre 16 godina

Give Thaci and his KLA, oops, KPS and what ever army there arms. Might as well let Iran have the nuke. The US will see their mistake sooner or latter like they did with Saddam, Bin Ladin, and the dude they put in power in Iran in the 70's or 80's. Next it will be Thaci or his succesor. We, the US, always kick ourselfes in the butt 15-30 year's down the road. Forgive my country for they know not what they have done.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

RE: Spunky

NO! I don't drink rot-gut.

I don't buy or wear over
priced corporate logo
clothing.

Thank you for your
interest in my personal
preferences.

The Netherlands

pre 16 godina

How about the k-albanians just go back to their country Albania? Now there is your PEACE. The Frenchies would have thrown them out of France a long time ago like they are doing with disobedient foreigners. Serbia is too tollerant and their DS is making me puke.

Penjack, USA

pre 16 godina

The Great Albanian Imam Bush said that arming his muslim brothers in Kosovo would ""strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace".

Remember what happened when the U.S. armed muslims in the past:
- When Russia was fighting in Afghanistan the U.S. armed the Taliban.
- When Iraq and Iran were at war the U.S. gave arms to Saddam Hussein.

In both cases the people we gave arms to ended up using those arms to kill Americans.
So now we arm the Albanian muslims. Just a matter of time before the U.S. arms are used to kill Americans again.
But for now Bush's close friends in the American Arms Industry will profit and some of the unemployed in the U.S. will get jobs.

pavle

pre 16 godina

Hermon

It seems that my sarcasm was lost on you.

Arms to kosovo c'mon youv'e got to admit its the last thing that is needed there! Surely the albanians would be better off improving their infastructure and providing a structure for peaceful development! As Serbia has been doing since the fall of Milosevic. But it seems very clear from the comments on here especially from albanian posters that thats not the future you forsee, but you see yourselves surrouded by enemies (not unlike isreal). Paranoia is sad basis on which to start building a state. As for the serb population in kosovo I doubt very much that the puppet regime will ever get close to convincing them that they have a home there, in fact it would be grossly naive of them. The displays of civil disobedience have been so far very affective causing endless amounts of frustration, making thaci, unmik, kfor and the proposed eulex look impotent and unable to cope, evidence of this was clear last monday and this is what happens when you try to rule by force!!! guns + guns = dead!!! Does Mr Bush care for albanians? of course he does every bullet is another dollar! The only solution to this mess is for talks, without talks a 100 years will pass and you'll be where you are now, a impoverished land dependent on the likes of bush and the EU for hand outs!! If thats being independent for you, you have my best wishes!

Joe, Belgrade

pre 16 godina

This is just evil. This is why Kosovo had to become independent so the USA can sell them arms. These arms will find their way to Albanian seperatist movements in Macedonia, Montenegro and perhaps Greece so the Albanians can fight for their 'greater Albania'. America creates purpetuating conflicts. Divide and conquer. Pure evil

Ezekiel

pre 16 godina

Should we be surprised by this? That's all they wanted - another puppet state to dump billions of dollars worth of weapons and military bases. Truly I say to you, this is all leading the way to hell!
Only the deluded will say this is 'good' for the protection of freedom (and of course the truly evil).

The time is near. What fools! Applauding their own destruction.

Dragan, Toronto

pre 16 godina

Where Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy failed, the U.S. succeeded - Kosovo. You should be proud America in amputating a small nations heart out of its soul and creating a state against its will. For the Serbs only fought always for what was theirs; just as the Jews always struggled to regain their righful homeland in the face of adversity. Kosovo to us is, as Jerusalem is to the Jews or Mecca is to the Muslims or Rome is to the Roman Catholic Christianity. Be proud America for trampling upon a small nation and reducing it to shame and nothingness, but remember - all empires rise and fall.

lowe

pre 16 godina

According to Bruce Jackson, President of the U.S., the arms are mainly the small caliber types for anti-riot purposes and similar operations. So no big deal since the KLA probably already have lots of these secretly stashed away anyway. It is not as if Washington would want or dare to supply tanks and aircrafts to Pristina.

Anyway this announcement provided good fodder material for Kostunica to seize upon. Which he did.

Erik

pre 16 godina

It is a human right to defend itself.

And the only country that should be bothered by Kosova getting help to defend itself is the country who plan to invade it.

And if we suppose "that there might be any such country" in lets say Balkans than we have big big reasons to be able to defend ourselves.

Suzi

pre 16 godina

Did the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo know that they were fighting for recognition of a NATO state and not an Albanian State which will be controlled by Mr. Bean in America. WOW! way to go towards self-determination!

GSP

pre 16 godina

To Jacob - you have come out of the woodwork to post comments of malarchy. Please don't open the door to a commentary you cannot handle.

With regard to your question on Milosevic - The last I heard he died - where have you been - in a cave with Osama, perhaps?

CCCC - Kosovo je Srbija!!!!

PO

pre 16 godina

Thinking, that at the moment we have more than 600.000 AK-47 and different fire arms in Kosova, it's really a good sign we'll be the strongest Country in the Region :-). As always, thanks a lot for your support Mr. Bush.

Marko

pre 16 godina

What a shameful move. Simply despicable. There will be repurcussions.

How much more can the Serbian people and democratic Serbian state endure?

lilly

pre 16 godina

"A tiger is not a gorilla.
(konstantin gregovic"

Neither was the baby cub arkan was holding. Would have liked to have seen a full grown tiger have arkan for breakfast, as soon as he put his paws on the tiger's scruff. Just like all of those serbs like arkan, easy for them to pick on weaker people and species. Take on an enemy just like you, and you see him run like like all the rest of the cowards of war.

spunky

pre 16 godina

To Zoran
YOUR COMMENT:
Supports and arms terrorists.

Does not adhere to domestic or international laws.

2.3 million of its own citizens in jail.

Another 5 million on parole or probation.

Still allows State sponsored murder.

Largest polluter of the environment.

Bombs, invades and occupies sovereign countries based on false reasons.

Largest threat to world peace.

The ONLY country to use nukes on another (also used false justification), with mostly civilian casualties.

A true "rouge" state.

No it is not Iran.
Not China.
Not Russia.
Not North Korea
Definitely not Serbia.

I will let you guess!
(Zoran, 20 March 2008 14:34)

MY QUESTION
Supports and arms terrorists.

Does not adhere to domestic or international laws.

2.3 million of its own citizens in jail.

Another 5 million on parole or probation.

Still allows State sponsored murder.

Largest polluter of the environment.

Bombs, invades and occupies sovereign countries based on false reasons.

Largest threat to world peace.

The ONLY country to use nukes on another (also used false justification), with mostly civilian casualties.

A true "rouge" state.

No it is not Iran.
Not China.
Not Russia.
Not North Korea
Definitely not Serbia.

I will let you guess!
(Zoran, 20 March 2008 14:34)

MY QUESTION?
When you wrote this comment did you have a NIKE t-shirt on? and sipping Coca Cola?
Cheers

Spunky

Enis from DK

pre 16 godina

Nikitas 89*

I couldn't agree more with you and I am also agains't Turkey denying their minorities their rights?

But Kosova has just pronounceed independent? The Serbs refuseed it straight away and if they gave it a chance for lets say 3 months, they are also still allowed to demonstrate and maybe they what something changed there is a posibilty because the Kosovar constitution isn't the final one now every citizen of Kosova can have their saying?

If were talking about FYROM me friend that isn't true Number %
TOTAL 2,022,547 100
Macedonians 1,297,981 64.18
Albanians 509,083 25.17
Turks 77,959 3.85
Roma people 53,879 2.66
Serbs 35,939 1.78
Vlachs 9,695 0.48
others 38,011 1.88
this is official FYROM countings? source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FYROM

90*
Jan(Amsterdam)

Well maybe i'm making a PR but my friend those are the facts and how many Serbs have even given this a chance their basic rights are a constitutional right? så the can demonstrate then without the army interfiring because of the army is a army of the people and if a Albanian leader takes those rights the whole population will be against him or her because then hes a dictator? we saw it with Milosevic in 90's?
And yes maybe it's the EU that wrote it but isnt it fair it's neither Serbs or Albanians that did but now as i said before every citizen can state his opinion in this matter?

Jacob

pre 16 godina

Serbia should understand reality,before It gets too late.
"Kosovo Moussad" is never more near to be created.
A "Bad" Situation for one side,is a "Good" Situation for another side.
Just my Opinion,who knows?

By these days a lot of surprises...

rain

pre 16 godina

It is really hard to read Albanian posters here and not to conclude:

-there is a high level of aggression in them

-there is a high support of military in general

-there is a need to perceive Kosovo-Albania future as a military power house (what a novelty)

-high, blind and opportunistic likeness for America on account of anybody or anything else, whether another state or principles of humanity, democracy, ethic or civil values.

-Albanian posts here are plunging in fascistic tones

And, the articles with or about Mr Kostunica on B92 are those that attract more Albanian comments than any others inclusive of the illegal recognitions news.
That says a lot. It seams Mr Kostunica has good arguments.

Marco, Amsterdam

pre 16 godina

Derex (#58),

You have quite a atypical name for a Dutchman. I have lived all over the Netherlands, i.e., Groningen, Rotterdam, Eindhoven and now Amsterdam, and have never met anybody called Derex (first name nor family name). Somebody pretending to be Dutch?

Jan (Amsterdam)

pre 16 godina

#81 Enis from DK,

That is a very nice piece of PR you just wrote. The problem is that the whole Kosovo constitution was probably written by EU burocrats. It will take the average Kosovo Albanian person a few generations to get used to that because they are not used to this (it is not in your culture and spirit). The past 50 years or so the Kosovo Albanians have not shown anything by their own initiative that even gets close to all you have been summarizing here. I cannot help but speculating that some of the Kosovo Albanian supporters here must be professional PR writers working for the Kosovo Albanians, the US or some EU countries (the level has increased dramatically recently). Of course there are still many jokers out there like the following one.

"In 2010 Netherland NATO summit! (when KosovA will in NATO before Serbia !)
President George Bush will take Nobel Price for PEACE (after few years) for Protecting World from Dictators and Terrorism.
Hashim Thaçi will be the Balcan Eisenhower !(awarded with Medal of Honor and Victoria Cross!)

And what about your ex-president accused for WAR CRIMES Milosevic where he is?
(Jacob, 20 March 2008 19:53)"

I will convert to Islam when these things will ever happen. Milosevic might have been accused, but he was never sentensed for war crimes (if it were that easy they should have done it quickly, but maybe they could not prove anything). That is unlike Thaci who openly was proud of his terrorist killings. I am sure he will have to travel very carefully the rest of his live, because there are many countries and people out there that would like to arrest him or worse.

Nikitas

pre 16 godina

Enis *81

Its not what is written, it is what is followed. Doesnt the turkish constitution for example states the respect of minorites and the respect of human rights and religious beliefs? Do you see it happening there for example? I dont.
So its not what you state, its what you practise. And i dont doubt the text, i doubt the intentions.

As for your conclusion that i am Makedonian. We dont have 40% albanians here, nor any other ethnic minority. We only have some religious minorities. Am I Makedonian? Yes I am. I am Greek. :)

Jim-UK

pre 16 godina

azir wrote

'America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty.Kosova's defense forces must have numerical superiority similar to our brothers and sisters in Isreal have over the Arabs we should have over the Slavs.Our survival musn't be threatened!'


I am laughing, do you need any more proof that the Serbian cause is the just one!

azir, the IDF use Palestinian civilians for target practice (using rubber bullets which take longer to kill and stay off the death stats).

In Jenin they never even cleared the houses before they bulldozed the centre of the town, reducing it to rubble. In Shabre and Shatilla they allowed Christian militia to kill thousands of innocent refugees in UN camps many with knives to save bullets, Sharon was condemned by his own Knesset for this action.

In Gaza over a million people live in conditions that are a disgrace to us all in the West due to Israeli persecution.

Many Israeli's I've met on my travels have expressed a desire to see all Arabs removed from the planet, men women and children and these are the people you relate so strongly to?

But then I guess you would considering many Israelis are foreigners and occupiers in the land they call home too.

Your people have been many things and fragmented ever since they were Illyrians and Epirots who left that land desolate and the Lombards were there before the Slavs who filled their place when they left.

No offence meant but your people took to the mountains and didn't come down till you took up arms for the Turks, and become persecutors of the Slavs and slowly you encroached on their land, tell me azir how comfortable do you feel knowing your ancestor was a raping, pillaging mercenary for the Turks and when are you going to acknowledge the wrongs your people have done to the Slavs over the years?

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

Giving weapons to KLA terrorists is like giving gorilla's AK-47's, waste of ammunition and bullets.
(konstantin gregovic, 20 March 2008 15:15)

Wasn’t it Arkan tigers that had the AK-47’s you are referring to?
You are right, what a bunch of gorillas they were.
(blero, 20 March 2008 15:48)

A tiger is not a gorilla.

Bob

pre 16 godina

1244 refers to resolution 1106:

8. Decides that all States shall, for the purposes of fostering peace and stability in Kosovo, prevent the sale or supply to the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, including Kosovo, by their nationals or from their territories or using their flag vessels and aircraft, of arms and related matériel of all types, such as weapons and ammunition, military vehicles and equipment and spare parts for the aforementioned, and shall prevent arming and training for terrorist activities there;

Thaci is a convicted terrorist. If Bush supplies arms to the organisation that Thaci is running, then Bush is breaking the law. If any of these weapons is used against a Serb it will be open for families to sue in open court for the breach in the law that lead to the shooting.

If it is argued that 1244 no longer applies, then Serbia can send police into Kosovo quite legally.

Carl, Sweden

pre 16 godina

And what about your ex-president accused for WAR CRIMES Milosevic where he is?
(Jacob, 20 March 2008 19:53)

He is dead, Jacob. The Serbian people overthrew him and sent him to the Hauge tribunal where he died. Didn't you know?

the railroad man

pre 16 godina

Wait All are forgetting how we got here does anyone remember the war in the Balkans. Know its the world fault. When Yugoslavia fell apart. When men women and children were killed for a greater Serbia. When, a man become blood thirsty in he’s ultranationalist ways. Lieing to the world and saying nothing is going on here. When he hired people like Ar k an to do he’s dirty work.

Furthermore since Kosova currency is the Euro we are technically in the EU but not official Serbia will need our vote someday to be part of the EU so please play nice.

And for who ever curse’s America, deep down inside if you were given a plane ticket you would come and never leave. So stop fooling yourself. Serbia needs to move on and fix there own economy.
God bless America. Do you smell it, it has that new arms deal smell.

asvic ertom

pre 16 godina

Funny thing is that US, EU, UN and Nato soldiers will end up on receiving end of weapons US is sending to KosovO. Wouldn't be the first time. The honeymoon will last only as long as Albanians see profit in kissing US behind. Once they are asked to behave all bets are off.
As far as Bush goes, he is by far the biggest disappointment. I voted for him twice and defended his position number of times. It is not easy but I have to admit, I was wrong and he is EVIL. The idea that 911 is an inside job suddenly seems not only possible but logical.

uncletonny

pre 16 godina

Throwing the bomb on hiroshima US made it clear to Rusia not to invade the rest of europe in 1945 2milion strong rusian soldiers marched into Berlin while allies altogether had about 700 thousand.So in conclusion the weapon's can be used for bringing peace to one region,and in this case to bring armed balace to the balkan nations, will bring long lasting stability to the balkans

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

I see Joe has been reduced to name calling (#54). It seems that anyone who disagrees with American foreign policy HAS to be some sort of a commie. Well if that's the case there are one hell of a lot of commies in this world, or if you prefer, "far leftists".
Onwards and upwards Niall.

Mialce

pre 16 godina

Don't seem so suprised. The US supported the 2nd Yugoslavia with tens of millions of dollars worth of arms for the JNA from 1946-59. It is what they do.

Hayabusa

pre 16 godina

Dear B92 editor,

your instructions for comments state that:

"Comments written in a style lacking the basic elements of grammar will not be published, nor will comments written completely in lowercase or uppercase letters,"

Good policy, and please stick to that. Comments by the nick "smile" is consistently written without capital letters, and thus should not qualify for publication at your site.

Thank you.

Enis from DK

pre 16 godina

59*

Dear mr Nikitas

I can see that you doesn't know anything about what the Kosovars whant? your many questions have been answered a long time ago?

The first qustion yes Kosova whant's to make Serbian language equal to the Albanian?Article 5 [Languages]

1. The official languages in Kosovo are Albanian and Serbian.

2. Turkish, Bosnian and Roma languages have the status of official languages at the municipal level or will be in official use as provided by law.

And yes the arms are for both the albanian and Serbs also Turks, roma gorani and other minorities.
The army is for all the people of Kosova?
Article 126 [Kosovo Security Force]
4. The Kosovo Security Force shall be professional, reflect ethnic diversity of the people of Kosovo and shall be recruited from across of Kosovo society.

And there will be Serbs in Public offices and schools?
Article 59 [Rights of Communities and their Members]

Members of communities shall have the right, individually or in community, to:

(1) express, maintain and develop their culture and preserve the essential elements of their identity, namely their religion, language, traditions and culture;

(2) receive public education in one of the official languages of the Republic of Kosovo of their choice at all levels;

(3) receive pre-school, primary and secondary public education, in their own language to the extent prescribed by law, with the thresholds for establishing specific classes or schools for this purpose being lower than normally stipulated for educational institutions;

(4) establish and manage their own private educational and training establishments for which public financial assistance may be granted, in accordance with the law and international standards;

(5) use their language and alphabet freely in private and in public;


That is all secured within the kosovar institution but the Serbs wont admit that and think that they will ever be with Serbia that is unrealistic?
the rest of the constitution: http://www.kushtetutakosoves.info/?cid=2,258

So my question too you is guess your macedonian(excuse me if i'm wrong) since you refer to those problems? Why in kosova a minority with less than 10% is secured those rights while in Macedonia with 30-40% Albanian "Minorety" they are being taken their rights?

Jacob

pre 16 godina

One question - when will Thachi & bush be able to drink coffee together in the Hague? These two really need to be tried & sentenced.
(GSP, 20 March 2008 19:03)

In 2010 Netherland NATO summit!
(when KosovA will in NATO before Serbia !)
President George Bush will take Nobel Price for PEACE (after few years) for Protecting World from Dictators and Terrorism.
Hashim Thaçi will be the Balcan Eisenhower !(awarded with Medal of Honor and Victoria Cross!)

And what about your ex-president accused for WAR CRIMES Milosevic where he is?

Joachim

pre 16 godina

I don't think that it's a good idea to send weapons to Kosovo since there are already too many of them.

If ever this deal was to happen it could be necessary for Serbia and Russia to deliver some defensive weapons to K-serbs just to maintain the balance and the security of all citizens of the province.

ernie

pre 16 godina

You know what it will happen with IZRAEL if they didn't have a good and strong army whith one of best gear they have so its same albanians are being threated now too and I'm not talking for the past so people no one it will invest somewhere where they money its not safe so please non of you it will through a money in non safe zone So for new state as kosova that gear or any gear is welcomed in case any thread from outside or from any hulugans from inside they wil be hunted and destroyed quick and fast...in matter of days not years

Hermon

pre 16 godina

Under the spirit of multi-culturism, are the serb side to get a share of the weapons?
(pavle, 20 March 2008 11:24)
Sure Pavle, but in order to do so they have to participate in Kosova's army or Police force, which means, they have to recognise the power of Kosova's authorities.

Luta

pre 16 godina

Dear all,

Kosova needs ONLY about a 1000 US latest tanks, about 100 of Apache helicopters 5 F117 and 1 B2 military planes and tens of thousands of latest Automatic weapons...


The above is necessary to maintain peace and stability in the Balkans...

Mr. Bush knows this better...

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

B92, are you about independent journalism or about copy-pasting Kostunica's press releases?

To the others who think there is a contradiction between this normal intergovernmental transaction and the restrictions of weaponry as envisaged in the Ahtisaari plan - have you now accepted the plan? Furthermore, the plan envisages Kosovo to have a professional army totaling 2,500 thus, as the memo expressed, the arms transaction is in accordance to this restriction.

Nick

pre 16 godina

Why is Kostunica in the forefront challenging every illegal US and EU act? Where is the President (Tadic) to voice his concerns, if any? I have yet to hear a peep from him regarding this issue, or is Serbia of any importance to him?

B92

pre 16 godina

Dear all,


Some of our Albanian readers have pointed out that others are using Abanian nicknames that are offensive, and offensive to Albanians, since the vast majority of our other readers do not understand the meaning of these words and are therefore not offended by them.

Unfortunately there is little we can do about this as our team does not speak Albanian, but we do apologize to our Albanian posters for inadvertently providing content that is offensive to them.

Our readers are as always welcome to draw our attention to these instances, as with any other offensive messages.

Regards,


B92

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

I've seen a video on Bosnian war, it was recorded by a Serbian member or red berets or whatever they are called, they recorded their own killings, what I saw in that video it is absolutely unbelievable! I guess they recorded it to prove the evidence that the truth is with Serbia?
Living close with Serbia I would wanna have arms too, one has to defend himself otherwise see that video ;)

Yours,
Derex, the Dutchman!
(Derex, the Dutchman, 20 March 2008 17:38)

Since your like to look at videos, am sure that you have seen the one in the Iraki prisons....and guess who was the cameramen...a US soldier, but most probably you will argue that it is an isolated case, like the 10th of thousands killed and around 1 million displaced during the us 'reign' and god knows when it will stop no wonder that us never signed the treaty on war crimes, half of the current administration would be jailed!!

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 16 godina

No one should be afraid of armed Kosova for we are not like some other country in Balkans to use them for attacking their neighbours.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

to all K-ALbanians, in case you don't really know who is your new master, just follow this link, it might be usefull for the future, great administration, great achievement indeed!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080320/ts_csm/airaqthree

Furthermore I really do not understand why you get so upset when we treat your govnt as a handfull of criminals, this is what we have been hearing from your beloved news master so many times, day after day and unlike Unmik specialized in destroying the proofs that would have brought your criminals to justice nobody can destroy our memory!!!

Canadian

pre 16 godina

The United States Administration is doing everything in the power to assure that Mr. Tadic's political party will lose in May, every day they make Tadic look more and more foolish for chasing this EU dream. I am now convinced that the US wants a war in Kosovo and have been trying very hard these past few months to provoke the Serbians and particularly the Russians, they had better be careful because War might be what they will get. How the Americans plan to fight this ware is beyond me! Since they cannot even control Iraq or Afghanistan never mind the Serbians who are far more advanced and have powerful Friends in the Russians.

Derex, the Dutchman

pre 16 godina

Thank your diaspora in Detroit and New York for making that happen! Its those thieves that have paid off every major US senator. However small this may seem to you right now remember God, justice and the truth has always and will forever remain on the Serb side:)
(Milos, 20 March 2008 14:33)

Ok, I'm not going to comment on why Bush decided to do so, after all two different countries may do any deal they want, and it is American budget, not Netherland's nor Serbia's ( so guy stop arguing about this any longer ), after all Serbia has arms too, why on Earth Kosovo should not?

But what caught my attention here is this comment from mr. Milos, and I don't understand how the truth is with Serbian, furthermore the God Himself?

I've seen a video on Bosnian war, it was recorded by a Serbian member or red berets or whatever they are called, they recorded their own killings, what I saw in that video it is absolutely unbelievable! I guess they recorded it to prove the evidence that the truth is with Serbia?
Living close with Serbia I would wanna have arms too, one has to defend himself otherwise see that video ;)

Yours,
Derex, the Dutchman!

John Smith

pre 16 godina

That's OK . . . let the U.S. send its weapons just like it did in Iraq in the 1980s . . . who knows, maybe someday the very same weapons that are now flooding into Kosovo will be used against the Americans just like in Iraq today . . .

ben

pre 16 godina

"The Americans arming the KLA; a fascist, terrorist, drug running mafia troupe". - Nail

Is this conform B92 policy?

Anyhow Nail, fascists and terrorists you can find them in Hague.

cheers

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 16 godina

how pathetic of you. Until yesterday Serbia was providing arms and spare parts for Saddam in his ruthless campaign to privatize Iraq for himself and that was OK. But, when Kosova (it sounds so sweet and I love saying it)gets an edge to defend itself from its Northern Neighbour oh well thats just wrong.

Now lets hope B92 does not censor my comment.

Nikitas

pre 16 godina

To both sides.
So far, Kossovo is NOT a sovereign and indipendent state as some wish to present it. A unilateral statement is not an international recognition. Maybe in the future, but not yet.
So according to this, the Usa should be sending arms to Serbia also, since nomatter if they have recognitsed the self proclaimed independance, Kossovo is NOT yet officially indipendant, but a part of Serbia.

On the other hand, since a part of Kossovo inhabitants feels albanic and another feels serbian, and since the "albanians" in FYROM are asking for dual official language and ethnic symbols, will the future state of Kossovo recognise those things to the Serbian citizens of the region?
Furthermore, will the Kossovo Serbians have the chance of getting their hands on those weapons also? They still are citizens of the same state as the Kossovo albanians and should have the same rights, no?
Will the future army of this state include Serbians? The public offices? The teachers? And if one day the Kossovo Serbians will declare their unilateral independance from Kossovo, will Kossovo state recognise it?
To the weapons issue again. What kinds of weapons are they? Is it from those withdrawn from service in the usa? And what is the relevance of the shipment with the explosion in albanistan? And who paid for those? The statement of the white house doesnt say "donation". Where the arms accompanied by advisors also? ANd why is someone so eager to send weapons instead of investors? Why is someone sending weapons instead of mechanics and logistics? Doesnt it sound strange to all you Kossovo albanians? You dont understand that the us has just established its 55th state? You dont understand that noone ever does something out of his own good will, but is always expecting something back? And dont you understand that the payback is something that you will have to pay either way and the cost will be heavy?

I wouldnt cheer if i was in your shoes. I would be very very concerned and troubled. I would be very sceptical about it. I would wait first for the bill and then i would react, cheering or not.
Think. Think well. And then find a good reason to the question: Why the falling superpower is helping a broke (economicaly), unstable (politicaly), unrecognised (by the majority and officially yet), helpless (by its own means), occupied (by un, nato and eu) small state in the balkans, where they (the usa) want to put their boots in and so far all they find is people opposing to them?
Have they finally found their easy victim?

Jacob

pre 16 godina

Bush should bring anti-missiles and radars in Kosovo.
Europe should be protected from Terrorism,Extremist and radicals also from Serbia.The Picture of Kostunica with russian Kalasnicov speaks itself about what government had serbia.USA and EU should help financially Free Media and Pro-Westerns Serbs.

Penjack, USA

pre 16 godina

Pres. Bush who is responsible for the most disasterous foreign policy in U.S. history said re: arming Kosovo:
that this is to "strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace".
So much for stability in the region! Absolutely unbelievable!

Meanwhile in the U.S. Congress -
U.S. Rep. Conyers said he will shortly institute Impeachmant proceedings against Bush.

Joe

pre 16 godina

sp,

I feel the same...proud to be an American.
I think Kosovo will be supported by the US for a long time with both financial and military aid. The military aid will be like with Israel in form of grant..meaning it will be free, it will be a present.

gjon

pre 16 godina

Gjon: i couldn't even finish to read the article that you posted.

It's a sad story and no one should be happy about that.

It would be nice that you just make that clear.
(ben, 20 March 2008 15:42)

ben,
i don't recall posting an article or link. i've added some comments recently but that's about it.

blero

pre 16 godina

(gjon kari, 20 March 2008 13:39)

I would appeal to Albanians that use offensive usernames (the one above being one of them).
Please note that this is not a chat room therefore usernames like that are offensive.
Thanks.

Joe

pre 16 godina

Niall,

Familiar with your far leftist views I am not surprised to read your daily vituperations against mighty US. It is your right but isn't it terribly wasted energy and time?
Do you think you will accomplish anything at all?

blero

pre 16 godina

Gjon,

I believe Ben might have been referring to the link that “Gjilani” has posted (#35).
I agree with Ben.
It is a very sad story.
It unfortunately happens on daily bases all around the world.
One thing is true, governments of the world come and go but one thing is for sure.
The poor will always be poor, the poor will always suffer.
The rich will be rich.
The only time the rich sees the poor is when it looks what he is stepping on.

This is the case everywhere in the world.

Pejoni

pre 16 godina

Alot of ppl posting here are calling our leaders for terrorist and criminals. Our governmemt for a quasi-state, still B92 is not editing those insulting comments, after all its a Serbian news site so I dont blame them, but saying those thing about Serbia would automaticlly get your post deleted.

What I dont get is, all those weapons Russia trades with Serbia is nothing unusual, but when when it comes to Albanians having weapons for defense purpose it gets all hell according to some here. I think its not fair having one state armed and the other being protected by IC and NATO, one day we have to guard our backyard as well, this is where the army of Kosova comes in. It will bring stability and make the other think twice befor taking any stupid moves.

Cheers!

Olf

pre 16 godina

Reading Anti Albanian comments in here, knowing what happened in past 200 years no wonder that people opt for self-defence.

So, I don’t understand why some are surprised.

Also, I dont know why do you guys blame Bush or Putin. They is not forcing anyone to use weapons.

Mike

pre 16 godina

It's a standard American tactic. We send weapons to the Saudis, the Egyptians, the Israelis, the Tainwanese, and under the Shah, the Iranians. It's a great way to prop up friendly regimes, regardless of the politics or the legitimacy, and no different from previous powers in history supporting protectorates, colonies, and client states. Of course most of these weapons are used against factions within the society, and reach the wrong recipients, but we're not really interested in that once business has been transacted.

Niall O'Doherty

pre 16 godina

The Americans arming the KLA; a fascist, terrorist, drug running mafia troupe. Where have we seen that one before.....

AUC in Colombia, Contras in Nicaragua. Instead of investing in schools and hospitals, the Yanks sends guns to local scumbags to finance their proxy wars and drug cartels. Looks like we'll have our very own Central American Banana republic in Europe soon.

Kostunica should reply likewise and get state of the art Russian & Chinese weapons.

gjilani

pre 16 godina

18#

"Certainly not the Kosovo albanians, they can't even afford electric power, and have 70% unemployment."

Dragan, it'd better be to focus on economy and forget Kosovo as Serbia is not in a better economic position. read the story from Blic and find out the truth about your people.

http://www.blic.co.yu/hronika.php?id=34669

ben

pre 16 godina

Gjon: i couldn't even finish to read the article that you posted.

It's a sad story and no one should be happy about that.

It would be nice that you just make that clear.

gjon

pre 16 godina

dragan,
the swimmer with the t-shirt should've tattoed it across his chest if it were really his "jerusalem" because i can't think of a better way for someone who's always seen in a pair of speedos to advertise his true convictions.
unless it was just a cheap ploy for public consumption.

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

I'm absolutely astonished at the comments of the K-Albanians on this thread. They reveal either a slavish, subservient gratitude to Big Brother or a macho "we've got guns now so don't mess with us" belligerence.

I will ask only one question. Who will these guns be used against?

Will it be those hooligan Serbs in Mitrovica the next time they engage in an act of civil disobedience?
Will it be the Serbs in the southern enclaves because their presence is an affront to your vision of a mono-ethnic state?
Or, in time, will it be KFOR or EULEX because you finally realise they have no intention of leaving?

lids

pre 16 godina

No suprises here-they need fresh blood for fights in Arab world and since coalition is getting smaller by the day, and arabs keep on getting price of oil higher than ever, Bush needs talbanians for new war.
Iran is all but ready.

Vini

pre 16 godina

Dragan!
Your countrymen can even TATOO "Kosovo is Serbia",but the reality is different. Kosova needs weapons to protect itself and I think this was a wise move by USA. We all know what happened in the 90's, an well equipt army fighting against civilians.

blero

pre 16 godina

Giving weapons to KLA terrorists is like giving gorilla's AK-47's, waste of ammunition and bullets.
(konstantin gregovic, 20 March 2008 15:15)

Wasn’t it Arkan tigers that had the AK-47’s you are referring to?
You are right, what a bunch of gorillas they were.

Nicholas Klinsman

pre 16 godina

This is more symbolic than anything else, and will not change regional dynamics at all.

Albanians and Serbs should understand that Americans will sell to anybody and the driving force behind this is $$$ not allegiance. For example, look at the middle east. The U.S. sells a huge amount to Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and it also sells a huge amount to Israel. This despite the fact most Arabs and Jews hate each other.

I only wish the U.S. was doing something to promote neighborly relations and peace. Instead, they are just looking for buyers to support their weapons industry.

Eagle

pre 16 godina

With the threats we face we need to buy a colossal amount of weapons and ammunition; KS government needs to start militarizing the society and fast.

gjon

pre 16 godina

i don't know why some of you seem bitter about the US giving arms to kosove. it's quite normal and matter-of-fact for one sovereign nation to give or sell military weaponry to another sovereign state. as i mentioned earlier, the US is merely protecting their investment in the balkans.

strav

pre 16 godina

This is no longer about Kosovo independance but about US hegemony in another part of the world. Kosovo in the eyes of the US is a region where by they can do what they like and have Thaci and Co be lead by the nose at every turn. No wonder the US wanted terrorists in charge as they can be bought the easiest.

Be prepared for a new conflict down the line which will eventually engulf most if not all of the Balkans.

Ratko, UK

pre 16 godina

hank You Mr.President of United States,without you the world would be dominated with Terrorism and Dangerous Dictators like Saddam and Milosevic.
Thank You again for supporting Democracy,Freedom and Peace around the World.
(Jacob, 20 March 2008 11:43)

The biggest terrorist in the world has been George Bush! Illegal war in Afganhistan, illegal war in Iraq - no hope of winning either (very strange how he believes the war has been won in these countries when troops will be there for decades) He has made the world a more dangerous place in the aim of globalising US industry throughout the world. This is a man whose own economy is collapsing and to reignite this he needs foreign money to pay for building contracts that are awarded to US companies - he will install his defence shields around Europe so that he can rake in more money from NATO, et al....the man is a disgrace to the world.

Unfortunately to Iraq and Afghan destabilisation add Balkan - just waiting to see Republika Sprska claim independence....

smile

pre 16 godina

the architect of nearly 4000 u.s. military deaths in iraq seems to be at it again. but is he, really? it doesn't hurt, au contraire, to put things in perspective ;) last year george did the same thing for the rest of serbia. not that it means anything, but the intention is good :) at least, i have no idea what if any benefit the vs has got from that decree. on the other hand, psychological warfare is psychological warfare. shooting sniper bullets in the heads of kosovo serbs on march 17, us ambassador saying hopefully we wont have to make any more decisions that will hurt the serbs, then, tells us to worry about investment, ds publicly trying to demonstrate there is no united policy on kosovo, when ukrainian minister blames unmik, our ds defense minister blames dss!, and the like. tell you what, for the first time in my life i'm happy we serbs are EXACTLY as we are, terribly stubborn and terribly proud. because the only effect any of this can have is the opposite.
yesterday i said in another post, no one should hope for a new op storm. trying to force serbs under albanian rule or trying to force them out of kosovo will mean conflict. this guy galluci said as much the same day. and i also said only arms merchats can hope to benefit from that. and people who eat kelloggs for breakfast if you know what i mean :) now i hope i'm wrong.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

Supports and arms terrorists.

Does not adhere to domestic or international laws.

2.3 million of its own citizens in jail.

Another 5 million on parole or probation.

Still allows State sponsored murder.

Largest polluter of the environment.

Bombs, invades and occupies sovereign countries based on false reasons.

Largest threat to world peace.

The ONLY country to use nukes on another (also used false justification), with mostly civilian casualties.

A true "rouge" state.

No it is not Iran.
Not China.
Not Russia.
Not North Korea
Definitely not Serbia.

I will let you guess!

Dragan

pre 16 godina

Who is paying for these weapons I wonder? Certainly not the Kosovo albanians, they can't even afford electric power, and have 70% unemployment. Is the US using donor funds to feed their military industrial complex? It wouldn't be the first time.
Typical Americans. To them, the arms industry is more important than health care and education, which is why their society is decaying in front of our eyes. I look forward to the decline of Pax Americana.
On another note, Conratulations to Milorad Cavic! Love the shirt! Kosovo is Serbia!

Anthony Shelmerdine UK

pre 16 godina

So when Russia makes an equivalent gesture to Serbia i expect all you Albanians to applaud Medvedev and Putin?

Bush has left a trail of death, destruction and misery across so much of the planet. Only the Yanks could keep such a sorry excuse for a man and his morally corrupt party in power.

Roger7

pre 16 godina

The mujahideen in Afghanistan received arms from U.S. government beginning in 1979 and look where it got them today. The very people that they armed are now their enemy in Afghanistan.

If Hashim “Snake” Thaci's previous behavior is any indication, the US has made another mistake in judgment.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/your_comment.php?nav_id=48619

With the US economy in a nosedive, exporting goods will be a benefit regardless of the consequences. This action should not surprise anyone.

David Crowley

pre 16 godina

Yes, that is just great President Bush!

Looking at some of the posts on this thread unfortunately it is all too clear that there are people who welcome this needless incitement of an already incendiary situation.

Do P. Bush and his cohorts have any real understanding of international politics or it is just a cynical manipulation of others for the benefit of the US arms industry ?

David Crowley

Ylli

pre 16 godina

God Bless Land of The Free and Home of The Brave. Kosova Thanks You Mr. President, for everything that the U.S. has done for all Kosovars.

Milos

pre 16 godina

Thank your diaspora in Detroit and New York for making that happen! Its those thieves that have paid off every major US senator. However small this may seem to you right now remember God, justice and the truth has always and will forever remain on the Serb side:)

ben

pre 16 godina

I know Kostunica it was relatively easy to deal with farmers- but now you must face the reality there is a State and will be armed as a state.

So don't play fool and try to destabilize Kosova by sending your MUP (Serbian police) boys there masked as "innocent K-Serbians" that are protesting (by throwing hand grantes) as now proved by UN and KFOR.

I think, it was exactly this your "smart" move to send your police to through hand grenades on UNMIK made that America decides to send weapons to Kosova.

Ana

pre 16 godina

RE:"America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty. Signed by Azir..."

1. The Albanians in Kosovo are probably the only nation in the world that consider George Bush a great leader, even the americans are fed up with him...

2. Serbs don't need to say who Hashim Tachi is. You have said it clear today with your comment. Leader of KLA...and we all know what KLA is and what they did.
It seems you consider him second best leader in the world...
To those who don't know: KLA was considered and was on the list (even in the US) as a terrorist organization until 1999 when someone in the US got the idea that they could use Kosovo for their own purposes. One of the purposes was for the world to forget of a certain stained blued dress in the White House...everybody still remembers the blue dress, though!

Luigi

pre 16 godina

Also for Italy i would prefer the same thing
Give the weapons to the Albanians and recall the troop !
I hope our new governament will take this decision like it seems it will do from Lebanon

patriot_missile

pre 16 godina

Since NATO it's not going to be forever there, Kosova need to get military strong,have a professional army with modern weopons and with American help get ready for NATO membership.
Great move by president Bush!!!

Burim Blakaj

pre 16 godina

This is great, it is more ever independence. We need such supporting. We are not stupid when we celebrate we hold USA flag except our flag. USA is strongest and best. That is why we have good relation to it.
I am surprised, in this regard, this is really great support, because we have potential for everything, we just need support from countries such is USA.
Thank you Mr. Bush, thank you USA; thank you GOD!

gjon

pre 16 godina

this is nothing unusual because kosove is it's own nation and america, thankfully, had a lot to do with it. if and when you sink nearly a decade of military aid and $ into a project, you naturally back up your investment.
new nations such as kosove are somewhat vulnerable at first and the best way to discourage a would-be, hostile neighbor is to strengthen your military.
a good analogy might be that if a burglar new that an owner of a home were armed, there's a good chance they would not attempt to break into that particular home.

adrian/bucharest

pre 16 godina

America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty.Kosova's defense forces must have numerical superiority similar to our brothers and sisters in Isreal have over the Arabs we should have over the Slavs.Our survival musn't be threatened!
(azir, 20 March 2008 12:38)

that's a good one :) so funny! sorry

Ana

pre 16 godina

Now it's beginning to be clear why there was such a need for an independent Kosovo...Bush will put some more defense missiles of his own and some more (a lot actualy) weapons in Kosovo. The US has yet another colony in Europe now...
Is it really possible that no one can stop this lunatic cowboy?

azir

pre 16 godina

America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty.Kosova's defense forces must have numerical superiority similar to our brothers and sisters in Isreal have over the Arabs we should have over the Slavs.Our survival musn't be threatened!

PM

pre 16 godina

Normal processes include providing military weaponry?

Looks like someone is trying to protect Camp Bondsteel?

B92 please tell me you will not censor the mention of Camp Bondsteel?

Jack

pre 16 godina

Oh! That's just great George. Just what Kosovo needs.

Surely UNMIK should have something to say about this importation of weapons due to the fact they don't recognise Kosovo independence.

Pavarisa

pre 16 godina

Wow this is something.We didn't expect this great news that early.A Big THANK YOU FOR GEORGE W.BUSH.
We need so much those weapons because we will always have a neighor who threatens us.

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

"George Bush has approved the delivery of a consignment of weapons to Kosovo. "

&

"The same source stated that arms restrictions remained in force for Kosovo under former UN special envoy Marti Ahtisaari’s plan, in order to avoid Serbian and Russian discontent. "

Is it just me, or do these statements directly contradict one another?

George, status plan has not approved by UN.
Oops forgot..

Georgie, Marti's plan, UN say no!

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Poor Kosovo when receives only weapons from their American friends. Logically, the USA’s interest is to have as many as possible these kinds of regions all over the world in order to deliver their best known products. Instead of sending the goods and investors in the region, they send weapons. Excellent!

The limited number of forces under Ahtisari’s plan is another question which will I firmly believe, be violated as soon as the force is established. It does not take a genius to figure it out that Thachi is going to create a huge Army and that Americans and the EU puppets will turn blind eye as always.

kiwi

pre 16 godina

Thank you USA, SLowly Kosova is achieving its goals.With EU mission helping us achieving EU standards, Kosova'll be in Europian Union faster than few countries around.We have a democratic government and you can no longer hear nationalist voices in any government bodies.
See you in EU!

Jacob

pre 16 godina

Thank You Mr.President of United States,without you the world would be dominated with Terrorism and Dangerous Dictators like Saddam and Milosevic.
Thank You again for supporting Democracy,Freedom and Peace around the World.

Ana

pre 16 godina

Now it's beginning to be clear why there was such a need for an independent Kosovo...Bush will put some more defense missiles of his own and some more (a lot actualy) weapons in Kosovo. The US has yet another colony in Europe now...
Is it really possible that no one can stop this lunatic cowboy?

Zoran

pre 16 godina

Supports and arms terrorists.

Does not adhere to domestic or international laws.

2.3 million of its own citizens in jail.

Another 5 million on parole or probation.

Still allows State sponsored murder.

Largest polluter of the environment.

Bombs, invades and occupies sovereign countries based on false reasons.

Largest threat to world peace.

The ONLY country to use nukes on another (also used false justification), with mostly civilian casualties.

A true "rouge" state.

No it is not Iran.
Not China.
Not Russia.
Not North Korea
Definitely not Serbia.

I will let you guess!

Jack

pre 16 godina

Oh! That's just great George. Just what Kosovo needs.

Surely UNMIK should have something to say about this importation of weapons due to the fact they don't recognise Kosovo independence.

Jacob

pre 16 godina

Thank You Mr.President of United States,without you the world would be dominated with Terrorism and Dangerous Dictators like Saddam and Milosevic.
Thank You again for supporting Democracy,Freedom and Peace around the World.

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

"George Bush has approved the delivery of a consignment of weapons to Kosovo. "

&

"The same source stated that arms restrictions remained in force for Kosovo under former UN special envoy Marti Ahtisaari’s plan, in order to avoid Serbian and Russian discontent. "

Is it just me, or do these statements directly contradict one another?

George, status plan has not approved by UN.
Oops forgot..

Georgie, Marti's plan, UN say no!

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Poor Kosovo when receives only weapons from their American friends. Logically, the USA’s interest is to have as many as possible these kinds of regions all over the world in order to deliver their best known products. Instead of sending the goods and investors in the region, they send weapons. Excellent!

The limited number of forces under Ahtisari’s plan is another question which will I firmly believe, be violated as soon as the force is established. It does not take a genius to figure it out that Thachi is going to create a huge Army and that Americans and the EU puppets will turn blind eye as always.

strav

pre 16 godina

This is no longer about Kosovo independance but about US hegemony in another part of the world. Kosovo in the eyes of the US is a region where by they can do what they like and have Thaci and Co be lead by the nose at every turn. No wonder the US wanted terrorists in charge as they can be bought the easiest.

Be prepared for a new conflict down the line which will eventually engulf most if not all of the Balkans.

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

I'm absolutely astonished at the comments of the K-Albanians on this thread. They reveal either a slavish, subservient gratitude to Big Brother or a macho "we've got guns now so don't mess with us" belligerence.

I will ask only one question. Who will these guns be used against?

Will it be those hooligan Serbs in Mitrovica the next time they engage in an act of civil disobedience?
Will it be the Serbs in the southern enclaves because their presence is an affront to your vision of a mono-ethnic state?
Or, in time, will it be KFOR or EULEX because you finally realise they have no intention of leaving?

Pavarisa

pre 16 godina

Wow this is something.We didn't expect this great news that early.A Big THANK YOU FOR GEORGE W.BUSH.
We need so much those weapons because we will always have a neighor who threatens us.

PM

pre 16 godina

Normal processes include providing military weaponry?

Looks like someone is trying to protect Camp Bondsteel?

B92 please tell me you will not censor the mention of Camp Bondsteel?

kiwi

pre 16 godina

Thank you USA, SLowly Kosova is achieving its goals.With EU mission helping us achieving EU standards, Kosova'll be in Europian Union faster than few countries around.We have a democratic government and you can no longer hear nationalist voices in any government bodies.
See you in EU!

Milos

pre 16 godina

Thank your diaspora in Detroit and New York for making that happen! Its those thieves that have paid off every major US senator. However small this may seem to you right now remember God, justice and the truth has always and will forever remain on the Serb side:)

Dragan

pre 16 godina

Who is paying for these weapons I wonder? Certainly not the Kosovo albanians, they can't even afford electric power, and have 70% unemployment. Is the US using donor funds to feed their military industrial complex? It wouldn't be the first time.
Typical Americans. To them, the arms industry is more important than health care and education, which is why their society is decaying in front of our eyes. I look forward to the decline of Pax Americana.
On another note, Conratulations to Milorad Cavic! Love the shirt! Kosovo is Serbia!

Roger7

pre 16 godina

The mujahideen in Afghanistan received arms from U.S. government beginning in 1979 and look where it got them today. The very people that they armed are now their enemy in Afghanistan.

If Hashim “Snake” Thaci's previous behavior is any indication, the US has made another mistake in judgment.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/your_comment.php?nav_id=48619

With the US economy in a nosedive, exporting goods will be a benefit regardless of the consequences. This action should not surprise anyone.

Anthony Shelmerdine UK

pre 16 godina

So when Russia makes an equivalent gesture to Serbia i expect all you Albanians to applaud Medvedev and Putin?

Bush has left a trail of death, destruction and misery across so much of the planet. Only the Yanks could keep such a sorry excuse for a man and his morally corrupt party in power.

David Crowley

pre 16 godina

Yes, that is just great President Bush!

Looking at some of the posts on this thread unfortunately it is all too clear that there are people who welcome this needless incitement of an already incendiary situation.

Do P. Bush and his cohorts have any real understanding of international politics or it is just a cynical manipulation of others for the benefit of the US arms industry ?

David Crowley

smile

pre 16 godina

the architect of nearly 4000 u.s. military deaths in iraq seems to be at it again. but is he, really? it doesn't hurt, au contraire, to put things in perspective ;) last year george did the same thing for the rest of serbia. not that it means anything, but the intention is good :) at least, i have no idea what if any benefit the vs has got from that decree. on the other hand, psychological warfare is psychological warfare. shooting sniper bullets in the heads of kosovo serbs on march 17, us ambassador saying hopefully we wont have to make any more decisions that will hurt the serbs, then, tells us to worry about investment, ds publicly trying to demonstrate there is no united policy on kosovo, when ukrainian minister blames unmik, our ds defense minister blames dss!, and the like. tell you what, for the first time in my life i'm happy we serbs are EXACTLY as we are, terribly stubborn and terribly proud. because the only effect any of this can have is the opposite.
yesterday i said in another post, no one should hope for a new op storm. trying to force serbs under albanian rule or trying to force them out of kosovo will mean conflict. this guy galluci said as much the same day. and i also said only arms merchats can hope to benefit from that. and people who eat kelloggs for breakfast if you know what i mean :) now i hope i'm wrong.

patriot_missile

pre 16 godina

Since NATO it's not going to be forever there, Kosova need to get military strong,have a professional army with modern weopons and with American help get ready for NATO membership.
Great move by president Bush!!!

Ana

pre 16 godina

RE:"America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty. Signed by Azir..."

1. The Albanians in Kosovo are probably the only nation in the world that consider George Bush a great leader, even the americans are fed up with him...

2. Serbs don't need to say who Hashim Tachi is. You have said it clear today with your comment. Leader of KLA...and we all know what KLA is and what they did.
It seems you consider him second best leader in the world...
To those who don't know: KLA was considered and was on the list (even in the US) as a terrorist organization until 1999 when someone in the US got the idea that they could use Kosovo for their own purposes. One of the purposes was for the world to forget of a certain stained blued dress in the White House...everybody still remembers the blue dress, though!

Niall O'Doherty

pre 16 godina

The Americans arming the KLA; a fascist, terrorist, drug running mafia troupe. Where have we seen that one before.....

AUC in Colombia, Contras in Nicaragua. Instead of investing in schools and hospitals, the Yanks sends guns to local scumbags to finance their proxy wars and drug cartels. Looks like we'll have our very own Central American Banana republic in Europe soon.

Kostunica should reply likewise and get state of the art Russian & Chinese weapons.

Ylli

pre 16 godina

God Bless Land of The Free and Home of The Brave. Kosova Thanks You Mr. President, for everything that the U.S. has done for all Kosovars.

Penjack, USA

pre 16 godina

Pres. Bush who is responsible for the most disasterous foreign policy in U.S. history said re: arming Kosovo:
that this is to "strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace".
So much for stability in the region! Absolutely unbelievable!

Meanwhile in the U.S. Congress -
U.S. Rep. Conyers said he will shortly institute Impeachmant proceedings against Bush.

Ratko, UK

pre 16 godina

hank You Mr.President of United States,without you the world would be dominated with Terrorism and Dangerous Dictators like Saddam and Milosevic.
Thank You again for supporting Democracy,Freedom and Peace around the World.
(Jacob, 20 March 2008 11:43)

The biggest terrorist in the world has been George Bush! Illegal war in Afganhistan, illegal war in Iraq - no hope of winning either (very strange how he believes the war has been won in these countries when troops will be there for decades) He has made the world a more dangerous place in the aim of globalising US industry throughout the world. This is a man whose own economy is collapsing and to reignite this he needs foreign money to pay for building contracts that are awarded to US companies - he will install his defence shields around Europe so that he can rake in more money from NATO, et al....the man is a disgrace to the world.

Unfortunately to Iraq and Afghan destabilisation add Balkan - just waiting to see Republika Sprska claim independence....

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

I've seen a video on Bosnian war, it was recorded by a Serbian member or red berets or whatever they are called, they recorded their own killings, what I saw in that video it is absolutely unbelievable! I guess they recorded it to prove the evidence that the truth is with Serbia?
Living close with Serbia I would wanna have arms too, one has to defend himself otherwise see that video ;)

Yours,
Derex, the Dutchman!
(Derex, the Dutchman, 20 March 2008 17:38)

Since your like to look at videos, am sure that you have seen the one in the Iraki prisons....and guess who was the cameramen...a US soldier, but most probably you will argue that it is an isolated case, like the 10th of thousands killed and around 1 million displaced during the us 'reign' and god knows when it will stop no wonder that us never signed the treaty on war crimes, half of the current administration would be jailed!!

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

I see Joe has been reduced to name calling (#54). It seems that anyone who disagrees with American foreign policy HAS to be some sort of a commie. Well if that's the case there are one hell of a lot of commies in this world, or if you prefer, "far leftists".
Onwards and upwards Niall.

Nicholas Klinsman

pre 16 godina

This is more symbolic than anything else, and will not change regional dynamics at all.

Albanians and Serbs should understand that Americans will sell to anybody and the driving force behind this is $$$ not allegiance. For example, look at the middle east. The U.S. sells a huge amount to Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and it also sells a huge amount to Israel. This despite the fact most Arabs and Jews hate each other.

I only wish the U.S. was doing something to promote neighborly relations and peace. Instead, they are just looking for buyers to support their weapons industry.

asvic ertom

pre 16 godina

Funny thing is that US, EU, UN and Nato soldiers will end up on receiving end of weapons US is sending to KosovO. Wouldn't be the first time. The honeymoon will last only as long as Albanians see profit in kissing US behind. Once they are asked to behave all bets are off.
As far as Bush goes, he is by far the biggest disappointment. I voted for him twice and defended his position number of times. It is not easy but I have to admit, I was wrong and he is EVIL. The idea that 911 is an inside job suddenly seems not only possible but logical.

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 16 godina

No one should be afraid of armed Kosova for we are not like some other country in Balkans to use them for attacking their neighbours.

Bob

pre 16 godina

1244 refers to resolution 1106:

8. Decides that all States shall, for the purposes of fostering peace and stability in Kosovo, prevent the sale or supply to the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, including Kosovo, by their nationals or from their territories or using their flag vessels and aircraft, of arms and related matériel of all types, such as weapons and ammunition, military vehicles and equipment and spare parts for the aforementioned, and shall prevent arming and training for terrorist activities there;

Thaci is a convicted terrorist. If Bush supplies arms to the organisation that Thaci is running, then Bush is breaking the law. If any of these weapons is used against a Serb it will be open for families to sue in open court for the breach in the law that lead to the shooting.

If it is argued that 1244 no longer applies, then Serbia can send police into Kosovo quite legally.

rain

pre 16 godina

It is really hard to read Albanian posters here and not to conclude:

-there is a high level of aggression in them

-there is a high support of military in general

-there is a need to perceive Kosovo-Albania future as a military power house (what a novelty)

-high, blind and opportunistic likeness for America on account of anybody or anything else, whether another state or principles of humanity, democracy, ethic or civil values.

-Albanian posts here are plunging in fascistic tones

And, the articles with or about Mr Kostunica on B92 are those that attract more Albanian comments than any others inclusive of the illegal recognitions news.
That says a lot. It seams Mr Kostunica has good arguments.

adrian/bucharest

pre 16 godina

America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty.Kosova's defense forces must have numerical superiority similar to our brothers and sisters in Isreal have over the Arabs we should have over the Slavs.Our survival musn't be threatened!
(azir, 20 March 2008 12:38)

that's a good one :) so funny! sorry

gjon

pre 16 godina

i don't know why some of you seem bitter about the US giving arms to kosove. it's quite normal and matter-of-fact for one sovereign nation to give or sell military weaponry to another sovereign state. as i mentioned earlier, the US is merely protecting their investment in the balkans.

lids

pre 16 godina

No suprises here-they need fresh blood for fights in Arab world and since coalition is getting smaller by the day, and arabs keep on getting price of oil higher than ever, Bush needs talbanians for new war.
Iran is all but ready.

Canadian

pre 16 godina

The United States Administration is doing everything in the power to assure that Mr. Tadic's political party will lose in May, every day they make Tadic look more and more foolish for chasing this EU dream. I am now convinced that the US wants a war in Kosovo and have been trying very hard these past few months to provoke the Serbians and particularly the Russians, they had better be careful because War might be what they will get. How the Americans plan to fight this ware is beyond me! Since they cannot even control Iraq or Afghanistan never mind the Serbians who are far more advanced and have powerful Friends in the Russians.

Joachim

pre 16 godina

I don't think that it's a good idea to send weapons to Kosovo since there are already too many of them.

If ever this deal was to happen it could be necessary for Serbia and Russia to deliver some defensive weapons to K-serbs just to maintain the balance and the security of all citizens of the province.

Jim-UK

pre 16 godina

azir wrote

'America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty.Kosova's defense forces must have numerical superiority similar to our brothers and sisters in Isreal have over the Arabs we should have over the Slavs.Our survival musn't be threatened!'


I am laughing, do you need any more proof that the Serbian cause is the just one!

azir, the IDF use Palestinian civilians for target practice (using rubber bullets which take longer to kill and stay off the death stats).

In Jenin they never even cleared the houses before they bulldozed the centre of the town, reducing it to rubble. In Shabre and Shatilla they allowed Christian militia to kill thousands of innocent refugees in UN camps many with knives to save bullets, Sharon was condemned by his own Knesset for this action.

In Gaza over a million people live in conditions that are a disgrace to us all in the West due to Israeli persecution.

Many Israeli's I've met on my travels have expressed a desire to see all Arabs removed from the planet, men women and children and these are the people you relate so strongly to?

But then I guess you would considering many Israelis are foreigners and occupiers in the land they call home too.

Your people have been many things and fragmented ever since they were Illyrians and Epirots who left that land desolate and the Lombards were there before the Slavs who filled their place when they left.

No offence meant but your people took to the mountains and didn't come down till you took up arms for the Turks, and become persecutors of the Slavs and slowly you encroached on their land, tell me azir how comfortable do you feel knowing your ancestor was a raping, pillaging mercenary for the Turks and when are you going to acknowledge the wrongs your people have done to the Slavs over the years?

ben

pre 16 godina

I know Kostunica it was relatively easy to deal with farmers- but now you must face the reality there is a State and will be armed as a state.

So don't play fool and try to destabilize Kosova by sending your MUP (Serbian police) boys there masked as "innocent K-Serbians" that are protesting (by throwing hand grantes) as now proved by UN and KFOR.

I think, it was exactly this your "smart" move to send your police to through hand grenades on UNMIK made that America decides to send weapons to Kosova.

Mike

pre 16 godina

It's a standard American tactic. We send weapons to the Saudis, the Egyptians, the Israelis, the Tainwanese, and under the Shah, the Iranians. It's a great way to prop up friendly regimes, regardless of the politics or the legitimacy, and no different from previous powers in history supporting protectorates, colonies, and client states. Of course most of these weapons are used against factions within the society, and reach the wrong recipients, but we're not really interested in that once business has been transacted.

ben

pre 16 godina

"The Americans arming the KLA; a fascist, terrorist, drug running mafia troupe". - Nail

Is this conform B92 policy?

Anyhow Nail, fascists and terrorists you can find them in Hague.

cheers

Derex, the Dutchman

pre 16 godina

Thank your diaspora in Detroit and New York for making that happen! Its those thieves that have paid off every major US senator. However small this may seem to you right now remember God, justice and the truth has always and will forever remain on the Serb side:)
(Milos, 20 March 2008 14:33)

Ok, I'm not going to comment on why Bush decided to do so, after all two different countries may do any deal they want, and it is American budget, not Netherland's nor Serbia's ( so guy stop arguing about this any longer ), after all Serbia has arms too, why on Earth Kosovo should not?

But what caught my attention here is this comment from mr. Milos, and I don't understand how the truth is with Serbian, furthermore the God Himself?

I've seen a video on Bosnian war, it was recorded by a Serbian member or red berets or whatever they are called, they recorded their own killings, what I saw in that video it is absolutely unbelievable! I guess they recorded it to prove the evidence that the truth is with Serbia?
Living close with Serbia I would wanna have arms too, one has to defend himself otherwise see that video ;)

Yours,
Derex, the Dutchman!

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

Giving weapons to KLA terrorists is like giving gorilla's AK-47's, waste of ammunition and bullets.
(konstantin gregovic, 20 March 2008 15:15)

Wasn’t it Arkan tigers that had the AK-47’s you are referring to?
You are right, what a bunch of gorillas they were.
(blero, 20 March 2008 15:48)

A tiger is not a gorilla.

Marko

pre 16 godina

What a shameful move. Simply despicable. There will be repurcussions.

How much more can the Serbian people and democratic Serbian state endure?

Penjack, USA

pre 16 godina

The Great Albanian Imam Bush said that arming his muslim brothers in Kosovo would ""strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace".

Remember what happened when the U.S. armed muslims in the past:
- When Russia was fighting in Afghanistan the U.S. armed the Taliban.
- When Iraq and Iran were at war the U.S. gave arms to Saddam Hussein.

In both cases the people we gave arms to ended up using those arms to kill Americans.
So now we arm the Albanian muslims. Just a matter of time before the U.S. arms are used to kill Americans again.
But for now Bush's close friends in the American Arms Industry will profit and some of the unemployed in the U.S. will get jobs.

azir

pre 16 godina

America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty.Kosova's defense forces must have numerical superiority similar to our brothers and sisters in Isreal have over the Arabs we should have over the Slavs.Our survival musn't be threatened!

Eagle

pre 16 godina

With the threats we face we need to buy a colossal amount of weapons and ammunition; KS government needs to start militarizing the society and fast.

Pejoni

pre 16 godina

Alot of ppl posting here are calling our leaders for terrorist and criminals. Our governmemt for a quasi-state, still B92 is not editing those insulting comments, after all its a Serbian news site so I dont blame them, but saying those thing about Serbia would automaticlly get your post deleted.

What I dont get is, all those weapons Russia trades with Serbia is nothing unusual, but when when it comes to Albanians having weapons for defense purpose it gets all hell according to some here. I think its not fair having one state armed and the other being protected by IC and NATO, one day we have to guard our backyard as well, this is where the army of Kosova comes in. It will bring stability and make the other think twice befor taking any stupid moves.

Cheers!

Joe

pre 16 godina

sp,

I feel the same...proud to be an American.
I think Kosovo will be supported by the US for a long time with both financial and military aid. The military aid will be like with Israel in form of grant..meaning it will be free, it will be a present.

Nick

pre 16 godina

Why is Kostunica in the forefront challenging every illegal US and EU act? Where is the President (Tadic) to voice his concerns, if any? I have yet to hear a peep from him regarding this issue, or is Serbia of any importance to him?

Joe, Belgrade

pre 16 godina

This is just evil. This is why Kosovo had to become independent so the USA can sell them arms. These arms will find their way to Albanian seperatist movements in Macedonia, Montenegro and perhaps Greece so the Albanians can fight for their 'greater Albania'. America creates purpetuating conflicts. Divide and conquer. Pure evil

Burim Blakaj

pre 16 godina

This is great, it is more ever independence. We need such supporting. We are not stupid when we celebrate we hold USA flag except our flag. USA is strongest and best. That is why we have good relation to it.
I am surprised, in this regard, this is really great support, because we have potential for everything, we just need support from countries such is USA.
Thank you Mr. Bush, thank you USA; thank you GOD!

Vini

pre 16 godina

Dragan!
Your countrymen can even TATOO "Kosovo is Serbia",but the reality is different. Kosova needs weapons to protect itself and I think this was a wise move by USA. We all know what happened in the 90's, an well equipt army fighting against civilians.

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

to all K-ALbanians, in case you don't really know who is your new master, just follow this link, it might be usefull for the future, great administration, great achievement indeed!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080320/ts_csm/airaqthree

Furthermore I really do not understand why you get so upset when we treat your govnt as a handfull of criminals, this is what we have been hearing from your beloved news master so many times, day after day and unlike Unmik specialized in destroying the proofs that would have brought your criminals to justice nobody can destroy our memory!!!

The Netherlands

pre 16 godina

How about the k-albanians just go back to their country Albania? Now there is your PEACE. The Frenchies would have thrown them out of France a long time ago like they are doing with disobedient foreigners. Serbia is too tollerant and their DS is making me puke.

Nikitas

pre 16 godina

Enis *81

Its not what is written, it is what is followed. Doesnt the turkish constitution for example states the respect of minorites and the respect of human rights and religious beliefs? Do you see it happening there for example? I dont.
So its not what you state, its what you practise. And i dont doubt the text, i doubt the intentions.

As for your conclusion that i am Makedonian. We dont have 40% albanians here, nor any other ethnic minority. We only have some religious minorities. Am I Makedonian? Yes I am. I am Greek. :)

Marco, Amsterdam

pre 16 godina

Derex (#58),

You have quite a atypical name for a Dutchman. I have lived all over the Netherlands, i.e., Groningen, Rotterdam, Eindhoven and now Amsterdam, and have never met anybody called Derex (first name nor family name). Somebody pretending to be Dutch?

gjilani

pre 16 godina

18#

"Certainly not the Kosovo albanians, they can't even afford electric power, and have 70% unemployment."

Dragan, it'd better be to focus on economy and forget Kosovo as Serbia is not in a better economic position. read the story from Blic and find out the truth about your people.

http://www.blic.co.yu/hronika.php?id=34669

Nikitas

pre 16 godina

To both sides.
So far, Kossovo is NOT a sovereign and indipendent state as some wish to present it. A unilateral statement is not an international recognition. Maybe in the future, but not yet.
So according to this, the Usa should be sending arms to Serbia also, since nomatter if they have recognitsed the self proclaimed independance, Kossovo is NOT yet officially indipendant, but a part of Serbia.

On the other hand, since a part of Kossovo inhabitants feels albanic and another feels serbian, and since the "albanians" in FYROM are asking for dual official language and ethnic symbols, will the future state of Kossovo recognise those things to the Serbian citizens of the region?
Furthermore, will the Kossovo Serbians have the chance of getting their hands on those weapons also? They still are citizens of the same state as the Kossovo albanians and should have the same rights, no?
Will the future army of this state include Serbians? The public offices? The teachers? And if one day the Kossovo Serbians will declare their unilateral independance from Kossovo, will Kossovo state recognise it?
To the weapons issue again. What kinds of weapons are they? Is it from those withdrawn from service in the usa? And what is the relevance of the shipment with the explosion in albanistan? And who paid for those? The statement of the white house doesnt say "donation". Where the arms accompanied by advisors also? ANd why is someone so eager to send weapons instead of investors? Why is someone sending weapons instead of mechanics and logistics? Doesnt it sound strange to all you Kossovo albanians? You dont understand that the us has just established its 55th state? You dont understand that noone ever does something out of his own good will, but is always expecting something back? And dont you understand that the payback is something that you will have to pay either way and the cost will be heavy?

I wouldnt cheer if i was in your shoes. I would be very very concerned and troubled. I would be very sceptical about it. I would wait first for the bill and then i would react, cheering or not.
Think. Think well. And then find a good reason to the question: Why the falling superpower is helping a broke (economicaly), unstable (politicaly), unrecognised (by the majority and officially yet), helpless (by its own means), occupied (by un, nato and eu) small state in the balkans, where they (the usa) want to put their boots in and so far all they find is people opposing to them?
Have they finally found their easy victim?

gjon

pre 16 godina

this is nothing unusual because kosove is it's own nation and america, thankfully, had a lot to do with it. if and when you sink nearly a decade of military aid and $ into a project, you naturally back up your investment.
new nations such as kosove are somewhat vulnerable at first and the best way to discourage a would-be, hostile neighbor is to strengthen your military.
a good analogy might be that if a burglar new that an owner of a home were armed, there's a good chance they would not attempt to break into that particular home.

blero

pre 16 godina

Giving weapons to KLA terrorists is like giving gorilla's AK-47's, waste of ammunition and bullets.
(konstantin gregovic, 20 March 2008 15:15)

Wasn’t it Arkan tigers that had the AK-47’s you are referring to?
You are right, what a bunch of gorillas they were.

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 16 godina

how pathetic of you. Until yesterday Serbia was providing arms and spare parts for Saddam in his ruthless campaign to privatize Iraq for himself and that was OK. But, when Kosova (it sounds so sweet and I love saying it)gets an edge to defend itself from its Northern Neighbour oh well thats just wrong.

Now lets hope B92 does not censor my comment.

blero

pre 16 godina

(gjon kari, 20 March 2008 13:39)

I would appeal to Albanians that use offensive usernames (the one above being one of them).
Please note that this is not a chat room therefore usernames like that are offensive.
Thanks.

John Smith

pre 16 godina

That's OK . . . let the U.S. send its weapons just like it did in Iraq in the 1980s . . . who knows, maybe someday the very same weapons that are now flooding into Kosovo will be used against the Americans just like in Iraq today . . .

Jan (Amsterdam)

pre 16 godina

#81 Enis from DK,

That is a very nice piece of PR you just wrote. The problem is that the whole Kosovo constitution was probably written by EU burocrats. It will take the average Kosovo Albanian person a few generations to get used to that because they are not used to this (it is not in your culture and spirit). The past 50 years or so the Kosovo Albanians have not shown anything by their own initiative that even gets close to all you have been summarizing here. I cannot help but speculating that some of the Kosovo Albanian supporters here must be professional PR writers working for the Kosovo Albanians, the US or some EU countries (the level has increased dramatically recently). Of course there are still many jokers out there like the following one.

"In 2010 Netherland NATO summit! (when KosovA will in NATO before Serbia !)
President George Bush will take Nobel Price for PEACE (after few years) for Protecting World from Dictators and Terrorism.
Hashim Thaçi will be the Balcan Eisenhower !(awarded with Medal of Honor and Victoria Cross!)

And what about your ex-president accused for WAR CRIMES Milosevic where he is?
(Jacob, 20 March 2008 19:53)"

I will convert to Islam when these things will ever happen. Milosevic might have been accused, but he was never sentensed for war crimes (if it were that easy they should have done it quickly, but maybe they could not prove anything). That is unlike Thaci who openly was proud of his terrorist killings. I am sure he will have to travel very carefully the rest of his live, because there are many countries and people out there that would like to arrest him or worse.

Dragan, Toronto

pre 16 godina

Where Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy failed, the U.S. succeeded - Kosovo. You should be proud America in amputating a small nations heart out of its soul and creating a state against its will. For the Serbs only fought always for what was theirs; just as the Jews always struggled to regain their righful homeland in the face of adversity. Kosovo to us is, as Jerusalem is to the Jews or Mecca is to the Muslims or Rome is to the Roman Catholic Christianity. Be proud America for trampling upon a small nation and reducing it to shame and nothingness, but remember - all empires rise and fall.

Ezekiel

pre 16 godina

Should we be surprised by this? That's all they wanted - another puppet state to dump billions of dollars worth of weapons and military bases. Truly I say to you, this is all leading the way to hell!
Only the deluded will say this is 'good' for the protection of freedom (and of course the truly evil).

The time is near. What fools! Applauding their own destruction.

pavle

pre 16 godina

Hermon

It seems that my sarcasm was lost on you.

Arms to kosovo c'mon youv'e got to admit its the last thing that is needed there! Surely the albanians would be better off improving their infastructure and providing a structure for peaceful development! As Serbia has been doing since the fall of Milosevic. But it seems very clear from the comments on here especially from albanian posters that thats not the future you forsee, but you see yourselves surrouded by enemies (not unlike isreal). Paranoia is sad basis on which to start building a state. As for the serb population in kosovo I doubt very much that the puppet regime will ever get close to convincing them that they have a home there, in fact it would be grossly naive of them. The displays of civil disobedience have been so far very affective causing endless amounts of frustration, making thaci, unmik, kfor and the proposed eulex look impotent and unable to cope, evidence of this was clear last monday and this is what happens when you try to rule by force!!! guns + guns = dead!!! Does Mr Bush care for albanians? of course he does every bullet is another dollar! The only solution to this mess is for talks, without talks a 100 years will pass and you'll be where you are now, a impoverished land dependent on the likes of bush and the EU for hand outs!! If thats being independent for you, you have my best wishes!

B92

pre 16 godina

Dear all,


Some of our Albanian readers have pointed out that others are using Abanian nicknames that are offensive, and offensive to Albanians, since the vast majority of our other readers do not understand the meaning of these words and are therefore not offended by them.

Unfortunately there is little we can do about this as our team does not speak Albanian, but we do apologize to our Albanian posters for inadvertently providing content that is offensive to them.

Our readers are as always welcome to draw our attention to these instances, as with any other offensive messages.

Regards,


B92

GSP

pre 16 godina

To Jacob - you have come out of the woodwork to post comments of malarchy. Please don't open the door to a commentary you cannot handle.

With regard to your question on Milosevic - The last I heard he died - where have you been - in a cave with Osama, perhaps?

CCCC - Kosovo je Srbija!!!!

Luta

pre 16 godina

Dear all,

Kosova needs ONLY about a 1000 US latest tanks, about 100 of Apache helicopters 5 F117 and 1 B2 military planes and tens of thousands of latest Automatic weapons...


The above is necessary to maintain peace and stability in the Balkans...

Mr. Bush knows this better...

the railroad man

pre 16 godina

Wait All are forgetting how we got here does anyone remember the war in the Balkans. Know its the world fault. When Yugoslavia fell apart. When men women and children were killed for a greater Serbia. When, a man become blood thirsty in he’s ultranationalist ways. Lieing to the world and saying nothing is going on here. When he hired people like Ar k an to do he’s dirty work.

Furthermore since Kosova currency is the Euro we are technically in the EU but not official Serbia will need our vote someday to be part of the EU so please play nice.

And for who ever curse’s America, deep down inside if you were given a plane ticket you would come and never leave. So stop fooling yourself. Serbia needs to move on and fix there own economy.
God bless America. Do you smell it, it has that new arms deal smell.

Joe

pre 16 godina

Niall,

Familiar with your far leftist views I am not surprised to read your daily vituperations against mighty US. It is your right but isn't it terribly wasted energy and time?
Do you think you will accomplish anything at all?

Hermon

pre 16 godina

Under the spirit of multi-culturism, are the serb side to get a share of the weapons?
(pavle, 20 March 2008 11:24)
Sure Pavle, but in order to do so they have to participate in Kosova's army or Police force, which means, they have to recognise the power of Kosova's authorities.

Luigi

pre 16 godina

Also for Italy i would prefer the same thing
Give the weapons to the Albanians and recall the troop !
I hope our new governament will take this decision like it seems it will do from Lebanon

Olf

pre 16 godina

Reading Anti Albanian comments in here, knowing what happened in past 200 years no wonder that people opt for self-defence.

So, I don’t understand why some are surprised.

Also, I dont know why do you guys blame Bush or Putin. They is not forcing anyone to use weapons.

blero

pre 16 godina

Gjon,

I believe Ben might have been referring to the link that “Gjilani” has posted (#35).
I agree with Ben.
It is a very sad story.
It unfortunately happens on daily bases all around the world.
One thing is true, governments of the world come and go but one thing is for sure.
The poor will always be poor, the poor will always suffer.
The rich will be rich.
The only time the rich sees the poor is when it looks what he is stepping on.

This is the case everywhere in the world.

Carl, Sweden

pre 16 godina

And what about your ex-president accused for WAR CRIMES Milosevic where he is?
(Jacob, 20 March 2008 19:53)

He is dead, Jacob. The Serbian people overthrew him and sent him to the Hauge tribunal where he died. Didn't you know?

Suzi

pre 16 godina

Did the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo know that they were fighting for recognition of a NATO state and not an Albanian State which will be controlled by Mr. Bean in America. WOW! way to go towards self-determination!

Jacob

pre 16 godina

One question - when will Thachi & bush be able to drink coffee together in the Hague? These two really need to be tried & sentenced.
(GSP, 20 March 2008 19:03)

In 2010 Netherland NATO summit!
(when KosovA will in NATO before Serbia !)
President George Bush will take Nobel Price for PEACE (after few years) for Protecting World from Dictators and Terrorism.
Hashim Thaçi will be the Balcan Eisenhower !(awarded with Medal of Honor and Victoria Cross!)

And what about your ex-president accused for WAR CRIMES Milosevic where he is?

Enis from DK

pre 16 godina

59*

Dear mr Nikitas

I can see that you doesn't know anything about what the Kosovars whant? your many questions have been answered a long time ago?

The first qustion yes Kosova whant's to make Serbian language equal to the Albanian?Article 5 [Languages]

1. The official languages in Kosovo are Albanian and Serbian.

2. Turkish, Bosnian and Roma languages have the status of official languages at the municipal level or will be in official use as provided by law.

And yes the arms are for both the albanian and Serbs also Turks, roma gorani and other minorities.
The army is for all the people of Kosova?
Article 126 [Kosovo Security Force]
4. The Kosovo Security Force shall be professional, reflect ethnic diversity of the people of Kosovo and shall be recruited from across of Kosovo society.

And there will be Serbs in Public offices and schools?
Article 59 [Rights of Communities and their Members]

Members of communities shall have the right, individually or in community, to:

(1) express, maintain and develop their culture and preserve the essential elements of their identity, namely their religion, language, traditions and culture;

(2) receive public education in one of the official languages of the Republic of Kosovo of their choice at all levels;

(3) receive pre-school, primary and secondary public education, in their own language to the extent prescribed by law, with the thresholds for establishing specific classes or schools for this purpose being lower than normally stipulated for educational institutions;

(4) establish and manage their own private educational and training establishments for which public financial assistance may be granted, in accordance with the law and international standards;

(5) use their language and alphabet freely in private and in public;


That is all secured within the kosovar institution but the Serbs wont admit that and think that they will ever be with Serbia that is unrealistic?
the rest of the constitution: http://www.kushtetutakosoves.info/?cid=2,258

So my question too you is guess your macedonian(excuse me if i'm wrong) since you refer to those problems? Why in kosova a minority with less than 10% is secured those rights while in Macedonia with 30-40% Albanian "Minorety" they are being taken their rights?

Delije

pre 16 godina

Give Thaci and his KLA, oops, KPS and what ever army there arms. Might as well let Iran have the nuke. The US will see their mistake sooner or latter like they did with Saddam, Bin Ladin, and the dude they put in power in Iran in the 70's or 80's. Next it will be Thaci or his succesor. We, the US, always kick ourselfes in the butt 15-30 year's down the road. Forgive my country for they know not what they have done.

ben

pre 16 godina

Gjon: i couldn't even finish to read the article that you posted.

It's a sad story and no one should be happy about that.

It would be nice that you just make that clear.

lowe

pre 16 godina

According to Bruce Jackson, President of the U.S., the arms are mainly the small caliber types for anti-riot purposes and similar operations. So no big deal since the KLA probably already have lots of these secretly stashed away anyway. It is not as if Washington would want or dare to supply tanks and aircrafts to Pristina.

Anyway this announcement provided good fodder material for Kostunica to seize upon. Which he did.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

RE: Spunky

NO! I don't drink rot-gut.

I don't buy or wear over
priced corporate logo
clothing.

Thank you for your
interest in my personal
preferences.

gjon

pre 16 godina

dragan,
the swimmer with the t-shirt should've tattoed it across his chest if it were really his "jerusalem" because i can't think of a better way for someone who's always seen in a pair of speedos to advertise his true convictions.
unless it was just a cheap ploy for public consumption.

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

B92, are you about independent journalism or about copy-pasting Kostunica's press releases?

To the others who think there is a contradiction between this normal intergovernmental transaction and the restrictions of weaponry as envisaged in the Ahtisaari plan - have you now accepted the plan? Furthermore, the plan envisages Kosovo to have a professional army totaling 2,500 thus, as the memo expressed, the arms transaction is in accordance to this restriction.

gjon

pre 16 godina

Gjon: i couldn't even finish to read the article that you posted.

It's a sad story and no one should be happy about that.

It would be nice that you just make that clear.
(ben, 20 March 2008 15:42)

ben,
i don't recall posting an article or link. i've added some comments recently but that's about it.

Jacob

pre 16 godina

Bush should bring anti-missiles and radars in Kosovo.
Europe should be protected from Terrorism,Extremist and radicals also from Serbia.The Picture of Kostunica with russian Kalasnicov speaks itself about what government had serbia.USA and EU should help financially Free Media and Pro-Westerns Serbs.

uncletonny

pre 16 godina

Throwing the bomb on hiroshima US made it clear to Rusia not to invade the rest of europe in 1945 2milion strong rusian soldiers marched into Berlin while allies altogether had about 700 thousand.So in conclusion the weapon's can be used for bringing peace to one region,and in this case to bring armed balace to the balkan nations, will bring long lasting stability to the balkans

lilly

pre 16 godina

"A tiger is not a gorilla.
(konstantin gregovic"

Neither was the baby cub arkan was holding. Would have liked to have seen a full grown tiger have arkan for breakfast, as soon as he put his paws on the tiger's scruff. Just like all of those serbs like arkan, easy for them to pick on weaker people and species. Take on an enemy just like you, and you see him run like like all the rest of the cowards of war.

PO

pre 16 godina

Thinking, that at the moment we have more than 600.000 AK-47 and different fire arms in Kosova, it's really a good sign we'll be the strongest Country in the Region :-). As always, thanks a lot for your support Mr. Bush.

tesla

pre 16 godina

Its too bad for the Albanians. It means if there is ever war with Serbia, Serbia will have to use even bigger guns and send more soldiers to bring peace to Serbs in the province.

Jason

pre 16 godina

"We will make sure that there are no terrorist in Kosovo,"
(Eagle, 21 March 2008 20:30)

When are the new elections? I believe your leader falls in this category.

"and soon Kosovo will join in peacekeepping missions around the world. Hello new friend (NATO)."
(Eagle, 21 March 2008 20:30)

The world has seen how you treat your minorities for the last 9 years, they live behind barbed wire for their own protection - I'm not so sure peacekeeping falls in your job description (unless you're talking about being cannon fodder for the US war machine).

spunky

pre 16 godina

To Zoran
YOUR COMMENT:
Supports and arms terrorists.

Does not adhere to domestic or international laws.

2.3 million of its own citizens in jail.

Another 5 million on parole or probation.

Still allows State sponsored murder.

Largest polluter of the environment.

Bombs, invades and occupies sovereign countries based on false reasons.

Largest threat to world peace.

The ONLY country to use nukes on another (also used false justification), with mostly civilian casualties.

A true "rouge" state.

No it is not Iran.
Not China.
Not Russia.
Not North Korea
Definitely not Serbia.

I will let you guess!
(Zoran, 20 March 2008 14:34)

MY QUESTION
Supports and arms terrorists.

Does not adhere to domestic or international laws.

2.3 million of its own citizens in jail.

Another 5 million on parole or probation.

Still allows State sponsored murder.

Largest polluter of the environment.

Bombs, invades and occupies sovereign countries based on false reasons.

Largest threat to world peace.

The ONLY country to use nukes on another (also used false justification), with mostly civilian casualties.

A true "rouge" state.

No it is not Iran.
Not China.
Not Russia.
Not North Korea
Definitely not Serbia.

I will let you guess!
(Zoran, 20 March 2008 14:34)

MY QUESTION?
When you wrote this comment did you have a NIKE t-shirt on? and sipping Coca Cola?
Cheers

Spunky

Hayabusa

pre 16 godina

Dear B92 editor,

your instructions for comments state that:

"Comments written in a style lacking the basic elements of grammar will not be published, nor will comments written completely in lowercase or uppercase letters,"

Good policy, and please stick to that. Comments by the nick "smile" is consistently written without capital letters, and thus should not qualify for publication at your site.

Thank you.

Jacob

pre 16 godina

Serbia should understand reality,before It gets too late.
"Kosovo Moussad" is never more near to be created.
A "Bad" Situation for one side,is a "Good" Situation for another side.
Just my Opinion,who knows?

By these days a lot of surprises...

Enis from DK

pre 16 godina

Nikitas 89*

I couldn't agree more with you and I am also agains't Turkey denying their minorities their rights?

But Kosova has just pronounceed independent? The Serbs refuseed it straight away and if they gave it a chance for lets say 3 months, they are also still allowed to demonstrate and maybe they what something changed there is a posibilty because the Kosovar constitution isn't the final one now every citizen of Kosova can have their saying?

If were talking about FYROM me friend that isn't true Number %
TOTAL 2,022,547 100
Macedonians 1,297,981 64.18
Albanians 509,083 25.17
Turks 77,959 3.85
Roma people 53,879 2.66
Serbs 35,939 1.78
Vlachs 9,695 0.48
others 38,011 1.88
this is official FYROM countings? source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FYROM

90*
Jan(Amsterdam)

Well maybe i'm making a PR but my friend those are the facts and how many Serbs have even given this a chance their basic rights are a constitutional right? så the can demonstrate then without the army interfiring because of the army is a army of the people and if a Albanian leader takes those rights the whole population will be against him or her because then hes a dictator? we saw it with Milosevic in 90's?
And yes maybe it's the EU that wrote it but isnt it fair it's neither Serbs or Albanians that did but now as i said before every citizen can state his opinion in this matter?

Erik

pre 16 godina

It is a human right to defend itself.

And the only country that should be bothered by Kosova getting help to defend itself is the country who plan to invade it.

And if we suppose "that there might be any such country" in lets say Balkans than we have big big reasons to be able to defend ourselves.

ernie

pre 16 godina

You know what it will happen with IZRAEL if they didn't have a good and strong army whith one of best gear they have so its same albanians are being threated now too and I'm not talking for the past so people no one it will invest somewhere where they money its not safe so please non of you it will through a money in non safe zone So for new state as kosova that gear or any gear is welcomed in case any thread from outside or from any hulugans from inside they wil be hunted and destroyed quick and fast...in matter of days not years

Mialce

pre 16 godina

Don't seem so suprised. The US supported the 2nd Yugoslavia with tens of millions of dollars worth of arms for the JNA from 1946-59. It is what they do.

Eagle

pre 16 godina

Why are guys surprised about this. This is something normaml for a new country.
Thank you George W. Bush. We will make sure that there are no terrorist in Kosovo, and soon Kosovo will join in peacekeepping missions around the world. Hello new friend (NATO).

azir

pre 16 godina

Ana; the entire world supports George W. Bush and Hashim Thaci's war on terror.You are correct in declaring Albanians' strong support for our fine president's leadership.KLA/UCK is a result of Greater Serbia ethnic cleansing campaign and after three lost wars, later. Our freedom fighters were only defending the Kosovars from state sponsored aggression and we have been/are supported by USA,EU and NATO forces.Our UCK was never on any US terror list of any kind.Can you prove what you're claiming? There might of been a low level official who might of compared the tactics but he was quickly corrected by Joe DioGuardi of the AACL and the State Department.So your claim is completely false.Otherwise, we wouldn't have had universal support.Your suggestion that US/NATO bombing of Serbia because of a "certain blue dress" is really ridiculous, as if over 1 milion illegaly deported,thousands killed and kidnaped and tens of thousands homes burnt to the ground didn't play a role in NATO coming to our defense.

lili

pre 16 godina

why do you bother that much?croatia bought arms,slovenia bought arms,even macedonia is doing so,montenegro also,so why does that upset you serbs that much?
did you plan your return? then i understand that your are upset:these arms make things a little bit more difficult for you! And believe me,it's not kalash and bullets_albania has tonns of that at a very low price_ but it's sophisticated munitions in case you plan with your army to invade us. So it's only a defensive mesure,don't be so upset ,we are not going to attack you,no but we just plan to defend -and well defend -our country! why does that surprise you that much??

Jacob

pre 16 godina

Thank You Mr.President of United States,without you the world would be dominated with Terrorism and Dangerous Dictators like Saddam and Milosevic.
Thank You again for supporting Democracy,Freedom and Peace around the World.

Vini

pre 16 godina

Dragan!
Your countrymen can even TATOO "Kosovo is Serbia",but the reality is different. Kosova needs weapons to protect itself and I think this was a wise move by USA. We all know what happened in the 90's, an well equipt army fighting against civilians.

gjilani

pre 16 godina

18#

"Certainly not the Kosovo albanians, they can't even afford electric power, and have 70% unemployment."

Dragan, it'd better be to focus on economy and forget Kosovo as Serbia is not in a better economic position. read the story from Blic and find out the truth about your people.

http://www.blic.co.yu/hronika.php?id=34669

Pavarisa

pre 16 godina

Wow this is something.We didn't expect this great news that early.A Big THANK YOU FOR GEORGE W.BUSH.
We need so much those weapons because we will always have a neighor who threatens us.

azir

pre 16 godina

America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty.Kosova's defense forces must have numerical superiority similar to our brothers and sisters in Isreal have over the Arabs we should have over the Slavs.Our survival musn't be threatened!

kiwi

pre 16 godina

Thank you USA, SLowly Kosova is achieving its goals.With EU mission helping us achieving EU standards, Kosova'll be in Europian Union faster than few countries around.We have a democratic government and you can no longer hear nationalist voices in any government bodies.
See you in EU!

gjon

pre 16 godina

i don't know why some of you seem bitter about the US giving arms to kosove. it's quite normal and matter-of-fact for one sovereign nation to give or sell military weaponry to another sovereign state. as i mentioned earlier, the US is merely protecting their investment in the balkans.

Eagle

pre 16 godina

With the threats we face we need to buy a colossal amount of weapons and ammunition; KS government needs to start militarizing the society and fast.

Pejoni

pre 16 godina

Alot of ppl posting here are calling our leaders for terrorist and criminals. Our governmemt for a quasi-state, still B92 is not editing those insulting comments, after all its a Serbian news site so I dont blame them, but saying those thing about Serbia would automaticlly get your post deleted.

What I dont get is, all those weapons Russia trades with Serbia is nothing unusual, but when when it comes to Albanians having weapons for defense purpose it gets all hell according to some here. I think its not fair having one state armed and the other being protected by IC and NATO, one day we have to guard our backyard as well, this is where the army of Kosova comes in. It will bring stability and make the other think twice befor taking any stupid moves.

Cheers!

patriot_missile

pre 16 godina

Since NATO it's not going to be forever there, Kosova need to get military strong,have a professional army with modern weopons and with American help get ready for NATO membership.
Great move by president Bush!!!

Burim Blakaj

pre 16 godina

This is great, it is more ever independence. We need such supporting. We are not stupid when we celebrate we hold USA flag except our flag. USA is strongest and best. That is why we have good relation to it.
I am surprised, in this regard, this is really great support, because we have potential for everything, we just need support from countries such is USA.
Thank you Mr. Bush, thank you USA; thank you GOD!

blero

pre 16 godina

Giving weapons to KLA terrorists is like giving gorilla's AK-47's, waste of ammunition and bullets.
(konstantin gregovic, 20 March 2008 15:15)

Wasn’t it Arkan tigers that had the AK-47’s you are referring to?
You are right, what a bunch of gorillas they were.

Ylli

pre 16 godina

God Bless Land of The Free and Home of The Brave. Kosova Thanks You Mr. President, for everything that the U.S. has done for all Kosovars.

ben

pre 16 godina

I know Kostunica it was relatively easy to deal with farmers- but now you must face the reality there is a State and will be armed as a state.

So don't play fool and try to destabilize Kosova by sending your MUP (Serbian police) boys there masked as "innocent K-Serbians" that are protesting (by throwing hand grantes) as now proved by UN and KFOR.

I think, it was exactly this your "smart" move to send your police to through hand grenades on UNMIK made that America decides to send weapons to Kosova.

Olf

pre 16 godina

Reading Anti Albanian comments in here, knowing what happened in past 200 years no wonder that people opt for self-defence.

So, I don’t understand why some are surprised.

Also, I dont know why do you guys blame Bush or Putin. They is not forcing anyone to use weapons.

gjon

pre 16 godina

dragan,
the swimmer with the t-shirt should've tattoed it across his chest if it were really his "jerusalem" because i can't think of a better way for someone who's always seen in a pair of speedos to advertise his true convictions.
unless it was just a cheap ploy for public consumption.

gjon

pre 16 godina

this is nothing unusual because kosove is it's own nation and america, thankfully, had a lot to do with it. if and when you sink nearly a decade of military aid and $ into a project, you naturally back up your investment.
new nations such as kosove are somewhat vulnerable at first and the best way to discourage a would-be, hostile neighbor is to strengthen your military.
a good analogy might be that if a burglar new that an owner of a home were armed, there's a good chance they would not attempt to break into that particular home.

Joe

pre 16 godina

sp,

I feel the same...proud to be an American.
I think Kosovo will be supported by the US for a long time with both financial and military aid. The military aid will be like with Israel in form of grant..meaning it will be free, it will be a present.

Jacob

pre 16 godina

Bush should bring anti-missiles and radars in Kosovo.
Europe should be protected from Terrorism,Extremist and radicals also from Serbia.The Picture of Kostunica with russian Kalasnicov speaks itself about what government had serbia.USA and EU should help financially Free Media and Pro-Westerns Serbs.

Jacob

pre 16 godina

One question - when will Thachi & bush be able to drink coffee together in the Hague? These two really need to be tried & sentenced.
(GSP, 20 March 2008 19:03)

In 2010 Netherland NATO summit!
(when KosovA will in NATO before Serbia !)
President George Bush will take Nobel Price for PEACE (after few years) for Protecting World from Dictators and Terrorism.
Hashim Thaçi will be the Balcan Eisenhower !(awarded with Medal of Honor and Victoria Cross!)

And what about your ex-president accused for WAR CRIMES Milosevic where he is?

uncletonny

pre 16 godina

Throwing the bomb on hiroshima US made it clear to Rusia not to invade the rest of europe in 1945 2milion strong rusian soldiers marched into Berlin while allies altogether had about 700 thousand.So in conclusion the weapon's can be used for bringing peace to one region,and in this case to bring armed balace to the balkan nations, will bring long lasting stability to the balkans

the railroad man

pre 16 godina

Wait All are forgetting how we got here does anyone remember the war in the Balkans. Know its the world fault. When Yugoslavia fell apart. When men women and children were killed for a greater Serbia. When, a man become blood thirsty in he’s ultranationalist ways. Lieing to the world and saying nothing is going on here. When he hired people like Ar k an to do he’s dirty work.

Furthermore since Kosova currency is the Euro we are technically in the EU but not official Serbia will need our vote someday to be part of the EU so please play nice.

And for who ever curse’s America, deep down inside if you were given a plane ticket you would come and never leave. So stop fooling yourself. Serbia needs to move on and fix there own economy.
God bless America. Do you smell it, it has that new arms deal smell.

ben

pre 16 godina

"The Americans arming the KLA; a fascist, terrorist, drug running mafia troupe". - Nail

Is this conform B92 policy?

Anyhow Nail, fascists and terrorists you can find them in Hague.

cheers

Joe

pre 16 godina

Niall,

Familiar with your far leftist views I am not surprised to read your daily vituperations against mighty US. It is your right but isn't it terribly wasted energy and time?
Do you think you will accomplish anything at all?

Eagle

pre 16 godina

Why are guys surprised about this. This is something normaml for a new country.
Thank you George W. Bush. We will make sure that there are no terrorist in Kosovo, and soon Kosovo will join in peacekeepping missions around the world. Hello new friend (NATO).

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Poor Kosovo when receives only weapons from their American friends. Logically, the USA’s interest is to have as many as possible these kinds of regions all over the world in order to deliver their best known products. Instead of sending the goods and investors in the region, they send weapons. Excellent!

The limited number of forces under Ahtisari’s plan is another question which will I firmly believe, be violated as soon as the force is established. It does not take a genius to figure it out that Thachi is going to create a huge Army and that Americans and the EU puppets will turn blind eye as always.

Ratko, UK

pre 16 godina

hank You Mr.President of United States,without you the world would be dominated with Terrorism and Dangerous Dictators like Saddam and Milosevic.
Thank You again for supporting Democracy,Freedom and Peace around the World.
(Jacob, 20 March 2008 11:43)

The biggest terrorist in the world has been George Bush! Illegal war in Afganhistan, illegal war in Iraq - no hope of winning either (very strange how he believes the war has been won in these countries when troops will be there for decades) He has made the world a more dangerous place in the aim of globalising US industry throughout the world. This is a man whose own economy is collapsing and to reignite this he needs foreign money to pay for building contracts that are awarded to US companies - he will install his defence shields around Europe so that he can rake in more money from NATO, et al....the man is a disgrace to the world.

Unfortunately to Iraq and Afghan destabilisation add Balkan - just waiting to see Republika Sprska claim independence....

Derex, the Dutchman

pre 16 godina

Thank your diaspora in Detroit and New York for making that happen! Its those thieves that have paid off every major US senator. However small this may seem to you right now remember God, justice and the truth has always and will forever remain on the Serb side:)
(Milos, 20 March 2008 14:33)

Ok, I'm not going to comment on why Bush decided to do so, after all two different countries may do any deal they want, and it is American budget, not Netherland's nor Serbia's ( so guy stop arguing about this any longer ), after all Serbia has arms too, why on Earth Kosovo should not?

But what caught my attention here is this comment from mr. Milos, and I don't understand how the truth is with Serbian, furthermore the God Himself?

I've seen a video on Bosnian war, it was recorded by a Serbian member or red berets or whatever they are called, they recorded their own killings, what I saw in that video it is absolutely unbelievable! I guess they recorded it to prove the evidence that the truth is with Serbia?
Living close with Serbia I would wanna have arms too, one has to defend himself otherwise see that video ;)

Yours,
Derex, the Dutchman!

Penjack, USA

pre 16 godina

Pres. Bush who is responsible for the most disasterous foreign policy in U.S. history said re: arming Kosovo:
that this is to "strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace".
So much for stability in the region! Absolutely unbelievable!

Meanwhile in the U.S. Congress -
U.S. Rep. Conyers said he will shortly institute Impeachmant proceedings against Bush.

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 16 godina

how pathetic of you. Until yesterday Serbia was providing arms and spare parts for Saddam in his ruthless campaign to privatize Iraq for himself and that was OK. But, when Kosova (it sounds so sweet and I love saying it)gets an edge to defend itself from its Northern Neighbour oh well thats just wrong.

Now lets hope B92 does not censor my comment.

BURIM REGJAJ

pre 16 godina

No one should be afraid of armed Kosova for we are not like some other country in Balkans to use them for attacking their neighbours.

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

B92, are you about independent journalism or about copy-pasting Kostunica's press releases?

To the others who think there is a contradiction between this normal intergovernmental transaction and the restrictions of weaponry as envisaged in the Ahtisaari plan - have you now accepted the plan? Furthermore, the plan envisages Kosovo to have a professional army totaling 2,500 thus, as the memo expressed, the arms transaction is in accordance to this restriction.

Enis from DK

pre 16 godina

59*

Dear mr Nikitas

I can see that you doesn't know anything about what the Kosovars whant? your many questions have been answered a long time ago?

The first qustion yes Kosova whant's to make Serbian language equal to the Albanian?Article 5 [Languages]

1. The official languages in Kosovo are Albanian and Serbian.

2. Turkish, Bosnian and Roma languages have the status of official languages at the municipal level or will be in official use as provided by law.

And yes the arms are for both the albanian and Serbs also Turks, roma gorani and other minorities.
The army is for all the people of Kosova?
Article 126 [Kosovo Security Force]
4. The Kosovo Security Force shall be professional, reflect ethnic diversity of the people of Kosovo and shall be recruited from across of Kosovo society.

And there will be Serbs in Public offices and schools?
Article 59 [Rights of Communities and their Members]

Members of communities shall have the right, individually or in community, to:

(1) express, maintain and develop their culture and preserve the essential elements of their identity, namely their religion, language, traditions and culture;

(2) receive public education in one of the official languages of the Republic of Kosovo of their choice at all levels;

(3) receive pre-school, primary and secondary public education, in their own language to the extent prescribed by law, with the thresholds for establishing specific classes or schools for this purpose being lower than normally stipulated for educational institutions;

(4) establish and manage their own private educational and training establishments for which public financial assistance may be granted, in accordance with the law and international standards;

(5) use their language and alphabet freely in private and in public;


That is all secured within the kosovar institution but the Serbs wont admit that and think that they will ever be with Serbia that is unrealistic?
the rest of the constitution: http://www.kushtetutakosoves.info/?cid=2,258

So my question too you is guess your macedonian(excuse me if i'm wrong) since you refer to those problems? Why in kosova a minority with less than 10% is secured those rights while in Macedonia with 30-40% Albanian "Minorety" they are being taken their rights?

Hayabusa

pre 16 godina

Dear B92 editor,

your instructions for comments state that:

"Comments written in a style lacking the basic elements of grammar will not be published, nor will comments written completely in lowercase or uppercase letters,"

Good policy, and please stick to that. Comments by the nick "smile" is consistently written without capital letters, and thus should not qualify for publication at your site.

Thank you.

Luigi

pre 16 godina

Also for Italy i would prefer the same thing
Give the weapons to the Albanians and recall the troop !
I hope our new governament will take this decision like it seems it will do from Lebanon

John Smith

pre 16 godina

That's OK . . . let the U.S. send its weapons just like it did in Iraq in the 1980s . . . who knows, maybe someday the very same weapons that are now flooding into Kosovo will be used against the Americans just like in Iraq today . . .

Luta

pre 16 godina

Dear all,

Kosova needs ONLY about a 1000 US latest tanks, about 100 of Apache helicopters 5 F117 and 1 B2 military planes and tens of thousands of latest Automatic weapons...


The above is necessary to maintain peace and stability in the Balkans...

Mr. Bush knows this better...

Jim-UK

pre 16 godina

azir wrote

'America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty.Kosova's defense forces must have numerical superiority similar to our brothers and sisters in Isreal have over the Arabs we should have over the Slavs.Our survival musn't be threatened!'


I am laughing, do you need any more proof that the Serbian cause is the just one!

azir, the IDF use Palestinian civilians for target practice (using rubber bullets which take longer to kill and stay off the death stats).

In Jenin they never even cleared the houses before they bulldozed the centre of the town, reducing it to rubble. In Shabre and Shatilla they allowed Christian militia to kill thousands of innocent refugees in UN camps many with knives to save bullets, Sharon was condemned by his own Knesset for this action.

In Gaza over a million people live in conditions that are a disgrace to us all in the West due to Israeli persecution.

Many Israeli's I've met on my travels have expressed a desire to see all Arabs removed from the planet, men women and children and these are the people you relate so strongly to?

But then I guess you would considering many Israelis are foreigners and occupiers in the land they call home too.

Your people have been many things and fragmented ever since they were Illyrians and Epirots who left that land desolate and the Lombards were there before the Slavs who filled their place when they left.

No offence meant but your people took to the mountains and didn't come down till you took up arms for the Turks, and become persecutors of the Slavs and slowly you encroached on their land, tell me azir how comfortable do you feel knowing your ancestor was a raping, pillaging mercenary for the Turks and when are you going to acknowledge the wrongs your people have done to the Slavs over the years?

Ana

pre 16 godina

RE:"America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty. Signed by Azir..."

1. The Albanians in Kosovo are probably the only nation in the world that consider George Bush a great leader, even the americans are fed up with him...

2. Serbs don't need to say who Hashim Tachi is. You have said it clear today with your comment. Leader of KLA...and we all know what KLA is and what they did.
It seems you consider him second best leader in the world...
To those who don't know: KLA was considered and was on the list (even in the US) as a terrorist organization until 1999 when someone in the US got the idea that they could use Kosovo for their own purposes. One of the purposes was for the world to forget of a certain stained blued dress in the White House...everybody still remembers the blue dress, though!

Milos

pre 16 godina

Thank your diaspora in Detroit and New York for making that happen! Its those thieves that have paid off every major US senator. However small this may seem to you right now remember God, justice and the truth has always and will forever remain on the Serb side:)

ben

pre 16 godina

Gjon: i couldn't even finish to read the article that you posted.

It's a sad story and no one should be happy about that.

It would be nice that you just make that clear.

blero

pre 16 godina

Gjon,

I believe Ben might have been referring to the link that “Gjilani” has posted (#35).
I agree with Ben.
It is a very sad story.
It unfortunately happens on daily bases all around the world.
One thing is true, governments of the world come and go but one thing is for sure.
The poor will always be poor, the poor will always suffer.
The rich will be rich.
The only time the rich sees the poor is when it looks what he is stepping on.

This is the case everywhere in the world.

Joachim

pre 16 godina

I don't think that it's a good idea to send weapons to Kosovo since there are already too many of them.

If ever this deal was to happen it could be necessary for Serbia and Russia to deliver some defensive weapons to K-serbs just to maintain the balance and the security of all citizens of the province.

Hermon

pre 16 godina

Under the spirit of multi-culturism, are the serb side to get a share of the weapons?
(pavle, 20 March 2008 11:24)
Sure Pavle, but in order to do so they have to participate in Kosova's army or Police force, which means, they have to recognise the power of Kosova's authorities.

ernie

pre 16 godina

You know what it will happen with IZRAEL if they didn't have a good and strong army whith one of best gear they have so its same albanians are being threated now too and I'm not talking for the past so people no one it will invest somewhere where they money its not safe so please non of you it will through a money in non safe zone So for new state as kosova that gear or any gear is welcomed in case any thread from outside or from any hulugans from inside they wil be hunted and destroyed quick and fast...in matter of days not years

spunky

pre 16 godina

To Zoran
YOUR COMMENT:
Supports and arms terrorists.

Does not adhere to domestic or international laws.

2.3 million of its own citizens in jail.

Another 5 million on parole or probation.

Still allows State sponsored murder.

Largest polluter of the environment.

Bombs, invades and occupies sovereign countries based on false reasons.

Largest threat to world peace.

The ONLY country to use nukes on another (also used false justification), with mostly civilian casualties.

A true "rouge" state.

No it is not Iran.
Not China.
Not Russia.
Not North Korea
Definitely not Serbia.

I will let you guess!
(Zoran, 20 March 2008 14:34)

MY QUESTION
Supports and arms terrorists.

Does not adhere to domestic or international laws.

2.3 million of its own citizens in jail.

Another 5 million on parole or probation.

Still allows State sponsored murder.

Largest polluter of the environment.

Bombs, invades and occupies sovereign countries based on false reasons.

Largest threat to world peace.

The ONLY country to use nukes on another (also used false justification), with mostly civilian casualties.

A true "rouge" state.

No it is not Iran.
Not China.
Not Russia.
Not North Korea
Definitely not Serbia.

I will let you guess!
(Zoran, 20 March 2008 14:34)

MY QUESTION?
When you wrote this comment did you have a NIKE t-shirt on? and sipping Coca Cola?
Cheers

Spunky

azir

pre 16 godina

Ana; the entire world supports George W. Bush and Hashim Thaci's war on terror.You are correct in declaring Albanians' strong support for our fine president's leadership.KLA/UCK is a result of Greater Serbia ethnic cleansing campaign and after three lost wars, later. Our freedom fighters were only defending the Kosovars from state sponsored aggression and we have been/are supported by USA,EU and NATO forces.Our UCK was never on any US terror list of any kind.Can you prove what you're claiming? There might of been a low level official who might of compared the tactics but he was quickly corrected by Joe DioGuardi of the AACL and the State Department.So your claim is completely false.Otherwise, we wouldn't have had universal support.Your suggestion that US/NATO bombing of Serbia because of a "certain blue dress" is really ridiculous, as if over 1 milion illegaly deported,thousands killed and kidnaped and tens of thousands homes burnt to the ground didn't play a role in NATO coming to our defense.

lili

pre 16 godina

why do you bother that much?croatia bought arms,slovenia bought arms,even macedonia is doing so,montenegro also,so why does that upset you serbs that much?
did you plan your return? then i understand that your are upset:these arms make things a little bit more difficult for you! And believe me,it's not kalash and bullets_albania has tonns of that at a very low price_ but it's sophisticated munitions in case you plan with your army to invade us. So it's only a defensive mesure,don't be so upset ,we are not going to attack you,no but we just plan to defend -and well defend -our country! why does that surprise you that much??

Ana

pre 16 godina

Now it's beginning to be clear why there was such a need for an independent Kosovo...Bush will put some more defense missiles of his own and some more (a lot actualy) weapons in Kosovo. The US has yet another colony in Europe now...
Is it really possible that no one can stop this lunatic cowboy?

Dragan

pre 16 godina

Who is paying for these weapons I wonder? Certainly not the Kosovo albanians, they can't even afford electric power, and have 70% unemployment. Is the US using donor funds to feed their military industrial complex? It wouldn't be the first time.
Typical Americans. To them, the arms industry is more important than health care and education, which is why their society is decaying in front of our eyes. I look forward to the decline of Pax Americana.
On another note, Conratulations to Milorad Cavic! Love the shirt! Kosovo is Serbia!

Anthony Shelmerdine UK

pre 16 godina

So when Russia makes an equivalent gesture to Serbia i expect all you Albanians to applaud Medvedev and Putin?

Bush has left a trail of death, destruction and misery across so much of the planet. Only the Yanks could keep such a sorry excuse for a man and his morally corrupt party in power.

David Crowley

pre 16 godina

Yes, that is just great President Bush!

Looking at some of the posts on this thread unfortunately it is all too clear that there are people who welcome this needless incitement of an already incendiary situation.

Do P. Bush and his cohorts have any real understanding of international politics or it is just a cynical manipulation of others for the benefit of the US arms industry ?

David Crowley

Zoran

pre 16 godina

Supports and arms terrorists.

Does not adhere to domestic or international laws.

2.3 million of its own citizens in jail.

Another 5 million on parole or probation.

Still allows State sponsored murder.

Largest polluter of the environment.

Bombs, invades and occupies sovereign countries based on false reasons.

Largest threat to world peace.

The ONLY country to use nukes on another (also used false justification), with mostly civilian casualties.

A true "rouge" state.

No it is not Iran.
Not China.
Not Russia.
Not North Korea
Definitely not Serbia.

I will let you guess!

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

I'm absolutely astonished at the comments of the K-Albanians on this thread. They reveal either a slavish, subservient gratitude to Big Brother or a macho "we've got guns now so don't mess with us" belligerence.

I will ask only one question. Who will these guns be used against?

Will it be those hooligan Serbs in Mitrovica the next time they engage in an act of civil disobedience?
Will it be the Serbs in the southern enclaves because their presence is an affront to your vision of a mono-ethnic state?
Or, in time, will it be KFOR or EULEX because you finally realise they have no intention of leaving?

Niall O'Doherty

pre 16 godina

The Americans arming the KLA; a fascist, terrorist, drug running mafia troupe. Where have we seen that one before.....

AUC in Colombia, Contras in Nicaragua. Instead of investing in schools and hospitals, the Yanks sends guns to local scumbags to finance their proxy wars and drug cartels. Looks like we'll have our very own Central American Banana republic in Europe soon.

Kostunica should reply likewise and get state of the art Russian & Chinese weapons.

Canadian

pre 16 godina

The United States Administration is doing everything in the power to assure that Mr. Tadic's political party will lose in May, every day they make Tadic look more and more foolish for chasing this EU dream. I am now convinced that the US wants a war in Kosovo and have been trying very hard these past few months to provoke the Serbians and particularly the Russians, they had better be careful because War might be what they will get. How the Americans plan to fight this ware is beyond me! Since they cannot even control Iraq or Afghanistan never mind the Serbians who are far more advanced and have powerful Friends in the Russians.

blero

pre 16 godina

(gjon kari, 20 March 2008 13:39)

I would appeal to Albanians that use offensive usernames (the one above being one of them).
Please note that this is not a chat room therefore usernames like that are offensive.
Thanks.

Nick

pre 16 godina

Why is Kostunica in the forefront challenging every illegal US and EU act? Where is the President (Tadic) to voice his concerns, if any? I have yet to hear a peep from him regarding this issue, or is Serbia of any importance to him?

B92

pre 16 godina

Dear all,


Some of our Albanian readers have pointed out that others are using Abanian nicknames that are offensive, and offensive to Albanians, since the vast majority of our other readers do not understand the meaning of these words and are therefore not offended by them.

Unfortunately there is little we can do about this as our team does not speak Albanian, but we do apologize to our Albanian posters for inadvertently providing content that is offensive to them.

Our readers are as always welcome to draw our attention to these instances, as with any other offensive messages.

Regards,


B92

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

Giving weapons to KLA terrorists is like giving gorilla's AK-47's, waste of ammunition and bullets.
(konstantin gregovic, 20 March 2008 15:15)

Wasn’t it Arkan tigers that had the AK-47’s you are referring to?
You are right, what a bunch of gorillas they were.
(blero, 20 March 2008 15:48)

A tiger is not a gorilla.

rain

pre 16 godina

It is really hard to read Albanian posters here and not to conclude:

-there is a high level of aggression in them

-there is a high support of military in general

-there is a need to perceive Kosovo-Albania future as a military power house (what a novelty)

-high, blind and opportunistic likeness for America on account of anybody or anything else, whether another state or principles of humanity, democracy, ethic or civil values.

-Albanian posts here are plunging in fascistic tones

And, the articles with or about Mr Kostunica on B92 are those that attract more Albanian comments than any others inclusive of the illegal recognitions news.
That says a lot. It seams Mr Kostunica has good arguments.

Delije

pre 16 godina

Give Thaci and his KLA, oops, KPS and what ever army there arms. Might as well let Iran have the nuke. The US will see their mistake sooner or latter like they did with Saddam, Bin Ladin, and the dude they put in power in Iran in the 70's or 80's. Next it will be Thaci or his succesor. We, the US, always kick ourselfes in the butt 15-30 year's down the road. Forgive my country for they know not what they have done.

smile

pre 16 godina

the architect of nearly 4000 u.s. military deaths in iraq seems to be at it again. but is he, really? it doesn't hurt, au contraire, to put things in perspective ;) last year george did the same thing for the rest of serbia. not that it means anything, but the intention is good :) at least, i have no idea what if any benefit the vs has got from that decree. on the other hand, psychological warfare is psychological warfare. shooting sniper bullets in the heads of kosovo serbs on march 17, us ambassador saying hopefully we wont have to make any more decisions that will hurt the serbs, then, tells us to worry about investment, ds publicly trying to demonstrate there is no united policy on kosovo, when ukrainian minister blames unmik, our ds defense minister blames dss!, and the like. tell you what, for the first time in my life i'm happy we serbs are EXACTLY as we are, terribly stubborn and terribly proud. because the only effect any of this can have is the opposite.
yesterday i said in another post, no one should hope for a new op storm. trying to force serbs under albanian rule or trying to force them out of kosovo will mean conflict. this guy galluci said as much the same day. and i also said only arms merchats can hope to benefit from that. and people who eat kelloggs for breakfast if you know what i mean :) now i hope i'm wrong.

gjon

pre 16 godina

Gjon: i couldn't even finish to read the article that you posted.

It's a sad story and no one should be happy about that.

It would be nice that you just make that clear.
(ben, 20 March 2008 15:42)

ben,
i don't recall posting an article or link. i've added some comments recently but that's about it.

Nikitas

pre 16 godina

To both sides.
So far, Kossovo is NOT a sovereign and indipendent state as some wish to present it. A unilateral statement is not an international recognition. Maybe in the future, but not yet.
So according to this, the Usa should be sending arms to Serbia also, since nomatter if they have recognitsed the self proclaimed independance, Kossovo is NOT yet officially indipendant, but a part of Serbia.

On the other hand, since a part of Kossovo inhabitants feels albanic and another feels serbian, and since the "albanians" in FYROM are asking for dual official language and ethnic symbols, will the future state of Kossovo recognise those things to the Serbian citizens of the region?
Furthermore, will the Kossovo Serbians have the chance of getting their hands on those weapons also? They still are citizens of the same state as the Kossovo albanians and should have the same rights, no?
Will the future army of this state include Serbians? The public offices? The teachers? And if one day the Kossovo Serbians will declare their unilateral independance from Kossovo, will Kossovo state recognise it?
To the weapons issue again. What kinds of weapons are they? Is it from those withdrawn from service in the usa? And what is the relevance of the shipment with the explosion in albanistan? And who paid for those? The statement of the white house doesnt say "donation". Where the arms accompanied by advisors also? ANd why is someone so eager to send weapons instead of investors? Why is someone sending weapons instead of mechanics and logistics? Doesnt it sound strange to all you Kossovo albanians? You dont understand that the us has just established its 55th state? You dont understand that noone ever does something out of his own good will, but is always expecting something back? And dont you understand that the payback is something that you will have to pay either way and the cost will be heavy?

I wouldnt cheer if i was in your shoes. I would be very very concerned and troubled. I would be very sceptical about it. I would wait first for the bill and then i would react, cheering or not.
Think. Think well. And then find a good reason to the question: Why the falling superpower is helping a broke (economicaly), unstable (politicaly), unrecognised (by the majority and officially yet), helpless (by its own means), occupied (by un, nato and eu) small state in the balkans, where they (the usa) want to put their boots in and so far all they find is people opposing to them?
Have they finally found their easy victim?

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

to all K-ALbanians, in case you don't really know who is your new master, just follow this link, it might be usefull for the future, great administration, great achievement indeed!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080320/ts_csm/airaqthree

Furthermore I really do not understand why you get so upset when we treat your govnt as a handfull of criminals, this is what we have been hearing from your beloved news master so many times, day after day and unlike Unmik specialized in destroying the proofs that would have brought your criminals to justice nobody can destroy our memory!!!

The Swiss

pre 16 godina

I've seen a video on Bosnian war, it was recorded by a Serbian member or red berets or whatever they are called, they recorded their own killings, what I saw in that video it is absolutely unbelievable! I guess they recorded it to prove the evidence that the truth is with Serbia?
Living close with Serbia I would wanna have arms too, one has to defend himself otherwise see that video ;)

Yours,
Derex, the Dutchman!
(Derex, the Dutchman, 20 March 2008 17:38)

Since your like to look at videos, am sure that you have seen the one in the Iraki prisons....and guess who was the cameramen...a US soldier, but most probably you will argue that it is an isolated case, like the 10th of thousands killed and around 1 million displaced during the us 'reign' and god knows when it will stop no wonder that us never signed the treaty on war crimes, half of the current administration would be jailed!!

Bob

pre 16 godina

1244 refers to resolution 1106:

8. Decides that all States shall, for the purposes of fostering peace and stability in Kosovo, prevent the sale or supply to the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, including Kosovo, by their nationals or from their territories or using their flag vessels and aircraft, of arms and related matériel of all types, such as weapons and ammunition, military vehicles and equipment and spare parts for the aforementioned, and shall prevent arming and training for terrorist activities there;

Thaci is a convicted terrorist. If Bush supplies arms to the organisation that Thaci is running, then Bush is breaking the law. If any of these weapons is used against a Serb it will be open for families to sue in open court for the breach in the law that lead to the shooting.

If it is argued that 1244 no longer applies, then Serbia can send police into Kosovo quite legally.

Nikitas

pre 16 godina

Enis *81

Its not what is written, it is what is followed. Doesnt the turkish constitution for example states the respect of minorites and the respect of human rights and religious beliefs? Do you see it happening there for example? I dont.
So its not what you state, its what you practise. And i dont doubt the text, i doubt the intentions.

As for your conclusion that i am Makedonian. We dont have 40% albanians here, nor any other ethnic minority. We only have some religious minorities. Am I Makedonian? Yes I am. I am Greek. :)

Jan (Amsterdam)

pre 16 godina

#81 Enis from DK,

That is a very nice piece of PR you just wrote. The problem is that the whole Kosovo constitution was probably written by EU burocrats. It will take the average Kosovo Albanian person a few generations to get used to that because they are not used to this (it is not in your culture and spirit). The past 50 years or so the Kosovo Albanians have not shown anything by their own initiative that even gets close to all you have been summarizing here. I cannot help but speculating that some of the Kosovo Albanian supporters here must be professional PR writers working for the Kosovo Albanians, the US or some EU countries (the level has increased dramatically recently). Of course there are still many jokers out there like the following one.

"In 2010 Netherland NATO summit! (when KosovA will in NATO before Serbia !)
President George Bush will take Nobel Price for PEACE (after few years) for Protecting World from Dictators and Terrorism.
Hashim Thaçi will be the Balcan Eisenhower !(awarded with Medal of Honor and Victoria Cross!)

And what about your ex-president accused for WAR CRIMES Milosevic where he is?
(Jacob, 20 March 2008 19:53)"

I will convert to Islam when these things will ever happen. Milosevic might have been accused, but he was never sentensed for war crimes (if it were that easy they should have done it quickly, but maybe they could not prove anything). That is unlike Thaci who openly was proud of his terrorist killings. I am sure he will have to travel very carefully the rest of his live, because there are many countries and people out there that would like to arrest him or worse.

Jacob

pre 16 godina

Serbia should understand reality,before It gets too late.
"Kosovo Moussad" is never more near to be created.
A "Bad" Situation for one side,is a "Good" Situation for another side.
Just my Opinion,who knows?

By these days a lot of surprises...

Marco, Amsterdam

pre 16 godina

Derex (#58),

You have quite a atypical name for a Dutchman. I have lived all over the Netherlands, i.e., Groningen, Rotterdam, Eindhoven and now Amsterdam, and have never met anybody called Derex (first name nor family name). Somebody pretending to be Dutch?

lilly

pre 16 godina

"A tiger is not a gorilla.
(konstantin gregovic"

Neither was the baby cub arkan was holding. Would have liked to have seen a full grown tiger have arkan for breakfast, as soon as he put his paws on the tiger's scruff. Just like all of those serbs like arkan, easy for them to pick on weaker people and species. Take on an enemy just like you, and you see him run like like all the rest of the cowards of war.

PO

pre 16 godina

Thinking, that at the moment we have more than 600.000 AK-47 and different fire arms in Kosova, it's really a good sign we'll be the strongest Country in the Region :-). As always, thanks a lot for your support Mr. Bush.

Erik

pre 16 godina

It is a human right to defend itself.

And the only country that should be bothered by Kosova getting help to defend itself is the country who plan to invade it.

And if we suppose "that there might be any such country" in lets say Balkans than we have big big reasons to be able to defend ourselves.

Dragan, Toronto

pre 16 godina

Where Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy failed, the U.S. succeeded - Kosovo. You should be proud America in amputating a small nations heart out of its soul and creating a state against its will. For the Serbs only fought always for what was theirs; just as the Jews always struggled to regain their righful homeland in the face of adversity. Kosovo to us is, as Jerusalem is to the Jews or Mecca is to the Muslims or Rome is to the Roman Catholic Christianity. Be proud America for trampling upon a small nation and reducing it to shame and nothingness, but remember - all empires rise and fall.

Jack

pre 16 godina

Oh! That's just great George. Just what Kosovo needs.

Surely UNMIK should have something to say about this importation of weapons due to the fact they don't recognise Kosovo independence.

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

"George Bush has approved the delivery of a consignment of weapons to Kosovo. "

&

"The same source stated that arms restrictions remained in force for Kosovo under former UN special envoy Marti Ahtisaari’s plan, in order to avoid Serbian and Russian discontent. "

Is it just me, or do these statements directly contradict one another?

George, status plan has not approved by UN.
Oops forgot..

Georgie, Marti's plan, UN say no!

PM

pre 16 godina

Normal processes include providing military weaponry?

Looks like someone is trying to protect Camp Bondsteel?

B92 please tell me you will not censor the mention of Camp Bondsteel?

adrian/bucharest

pre 16 godina

America's great leader, George W. Bush's support of former UCK leader and current Prime Minister of Kosova, Hashim Thaci is promoting peace, stabilty.Kosova's defense forces must have numerical superiority similar to our brothers and sisters in Isreal have over the Arabs we should have over the Slavs.Our survival musn't be threatened!
(azir, 20 March 2008 12:38)

that's a good one :) so funny! sorry

Roger7

pre 16 godina

The mujahideen in Afghanistan received arms from U.S. government beginning in 1979 and look where it got them today. The very people that they armed are now their enemy in Afghanistan.

If Hashim “Snake” Thaci's previous behavior is any indication, the US has made another mistake in judgment.
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/your_comment.php?nav_id=48619

With the US economy in a nosedive, exporting goods will be a benefit regardless of the consequences. This action should not surprise anyone.

strav

pre 16 godina

This is no longer about Kosovo independance but about US hegemony in another part of the world. Kosovo in the eyes of the US is a region where by they can do what they like and have Thaci and Co be lead by the nose at every turn. No wonder the US wanted terrorists in charge as they can be bought the easiest.

Be prepared for a new conflict down the line which will eventually engulf most if not all of the Balkans.

lids

pre 16 godina

No suprises here-they need fresh blood for fights in Arab world and since coalition is getting smaller by the day, and arabs keep on getting price of oil higher than ever, Bush needs talbanians for new war.
Iran is all but ready.

Nicholas Klinsman

pre 16 godina

This is more symbolic than anything else, and will not change regional dynamics at all.

Albanians and Serbs should understand that Americans will sell to anybody and the driving force behind this is $$$ not allegiance. For example, look at the middle east. The U.S. sells a huge amount to Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and it also sells a huge amount to Israel. This despite the fact most Arabs and Jews hate each other.

I only wish the U.S. was doing something to promote neighborly relations and peace. Instead, they are just looking for buyers to support their weapons industry.

Mike

pre 16 godina

It's a standard American tactic. We send weapons to the Saudis, the Egyptians, the Israelis, the Tainwanese, and under the Shah, the Iranians. It's a great way to prop up friendly regimes, regardless of the politics or the legitimacy, and no different from previous powers in history supporting protectorates, colonies, and client states. Of course most of these weapons are used against factions within the society, and reach the wrong recipients, but we're not really interested in that once business has been transacted.

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

I see Joe has been reduced to name calling (#54). It seems that anyone who disagrees with American foreign policy HAS to be some sort of a commie. Well if that's the case there are one hell of a lot of commies in this world, or if you prefer, "far leftists".
Onwards and upwards Niall.

Mialce

pre 16 godina

Don't seem so suprised. The US supported the 2nd Yugoslavia with tens of millions of dollars worth of arms for the JNA from 1946-59. It is what they do.

Carl, Sweden

pre 16 godina

And what about your ex-president accused for WAR CRIMES Milosevic where he is?
(Jacob, 20 March 2008 19:53)

He is dead, Jacob. The Serbian people overthrew him and sent him to the Hauge tribunal where he died. Didn't you know?

asvic ertom

pre 16 godina

Funny thing is that US, EU, UN and Nato soldiers will end up on receiving end of weapons US is sending to KosovO. Wouldn't be the first time. The honeymoon will last only as long as Albanians see profit in kissing US behind. Once they are asked to behave all bets are off.
As far as Bush goes, he is by far the biggest disappointment. I voted for him twice and defended his position number of times. It is not easy but I have to admit, I was wrong and he is EVIL. The idea that 911 is an inside job suddenly seems not only possible but logical.

Enis from DK

pre 16 godina

Nikitas 89*

I couldn't agree more with you and I am also agains't Turkey denying their minorities their rights?

But Kosova has just pronounceed independent? The Serbs refuseed it straight away and if they gave it a chance for lets say 3 months, they are also still allowed to demonstrate and maybe they what something changed there is a posibilty because the Kosovar constitution isn't the final one now every citizen of Kosova can have their saying?

If were talking about FYROM me friend that isn't true Number %
TOTAL 2,022,547 100
Macedonians 1,297,981 64.18
Albanians 509,083 25.17
Turks 77,959 3.85
Roma people 53,879 2.66
Serbs 35,939 1.78
Vlachs 9,695 0.48
others 38,011 1.88
this is official FYROM countings? source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FYROM

90*
Jan(Amsterdam)

Well maybe i'm making a PR but my friend those are the facts and how many Serbs have even given this a chance their basic rights are a constitutional right? så the can demonstrate then without the army interfiring because of the army is a army of the people and if a Albanian leader takes those rights the whole population will be against him or her because then hes a dictator? we saw it with Milosevic in 90's?
And yes maybe it's the EU that wrote it but isnt it fair it's neither Serbs or Albanians that did but now as i said before every citizen can state his opinion in this matter?

Marko

pre 16 godina

What a shameful move. Simply despicable. There will be repurcussions.

How much more can the Serbian people and democratic Serbian state endure?

Suzi

pre 16 godina

Did the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo know that they were fighting for recognition of a NATO state and not an Albanian State which will be controlled by Mr. Bean in America. WOW! way to go towards self-determination!

GSP

pre 16 godina

To Jacob - you have come out of the woodwork to post comments of malarchy. Please don't open the door to a commentary you cannot handle.

With regard to your question on Milosevic - The last I heard he died - where have you been - in a cave with Osama, perhaps?

CCCC - Kosovo je Srbija!!!!

lowe

pre 16 godina

According to Bruce Jackson, President of the U.S., the arms are mainly the small caliber types for anti-riot purposes and similar operations. So no big deal since the KLA probably already have lots of these secretly stashed away anyway. It is not as if Washington would want or dare to supply tanks and aircrafts to Pristina.

Anyway this announcement provided good fodder material for Kostunica to seize upon. Which he did.

Ezekiel

pre 16 godina

Should we be surprised by this? That's all they wanted - another puppet state to dump billions of dollars worth of weapons and military bases. Truly I say to you, this is all leading the way to hell!
Only the deluded will say this is 'good' for the protection of freedom (and of course the truly evil).

The time is near. What fools! Applauding their own destruction.

Joe, Belgrade

pre 16 godina

This is just evil. This is why Kosovo had to become independent so the USA can sell them arms. These arms will find their way to Albanian seperatist movements in Macedonia, Montenegro and perhaps Greece so the Albanians can fight for their 'greater Albania'. America creates purpetuating conflicts. Divide and conquer. Pure evil

pavle

pre 16 godina

Hermon

It seems that my sarcasm was lost on you.

Arms to kosovo c'mon youv'e got to admit its the last thing that is needed there! Surely the albanians would be better off improving their infastructure and providing a structure for peaceful development! As Serbia has been doing since the fall of Milosevic. But it seems very clear from the comments on here especially from albanian posters that thats not the future you forsee, but you see yourselves surrouded by enemies (not unlike isreal). Paranoia is sad basis on which to start building a state. As for the serb population in kosovo I doubt very much that the puppet regime will ever get close to convincing them that they have a home there, in fact it would be grossly naive of them. The displays of civil disobedience have been so far very affective causing endless amounts of frustration, making thaci, unmik, kfor and the proposed eulex look impotent and unable to cope, evidence of this was clear last monday and this is what happens when you try to rule by force!!! guns + guns = dead!!! Does Mr Bush care for albanians? of course he does every bullet is another dollar! The only solution to this mess is for talks, without talks a 100 years will pass and you'll be where you are now, a impoverished land dependent on the likes of bush and the EU for hand outs!! If thats being independent for you, you have my best wishes!

Penjack, USA

pre 16 godina

The Great Albanian Imam Bush said that arming his muslim brothers in Kosovo would ""strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace".

Remember what happened when the U.S. armed muslims in the past:
- When Russia was fighting in Afghanistan the U.S. armed the Taliban.
- When Iraq and Iran were at war the U.S. gave arms to Saddam Hussein.

In both cases the people we gave arms to ended up using those arms to kill Americans.
So now we arm the Albanian muslims. Just a matter of time before the U.S. arms are used to kill Americans again.
But for now Bush's close friends in the American Arms Industry will profit and some of the unemployed in the U.S. will get jobs.

The Netherlands

pre 16 godina

How about the k-albanians just go back to their country Albania? Now there is your PEACE. The Frenchies would have thrown them out of France a long time ago like they are doing with disobedient foreigners. Serbia is too tollerant and their DS is making me puke.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

RE: Spunky

NO! I don't drink rot-gut.

I don't buy or wear over
priced corporate logo
clothing.

Thank you for your
interest in my personal
preferences.

tesla

pre 16 godina

Its too bad for the Albanians. It means if there is ever war with Serbia, Serbia will have to use even bigger guns and send more soldiers to bring peace to Serbs in the province.

Jason

pre 16 godina

"We will make sure that there are no terrorist in Kosovo,"
(Eagle, 21 March 2008 20:30)

When are the new elections? I believe your leader falls in this category.

"and soon Kosovo will join in peacekeepping missions around the world. Hello new friend (NATO)."
(Eagle, 21 March 2008 20:30)

The world has seen how you treat your minorities for the last 9 years, they live behind barbed wire for their own protection - I'm not so sure peacekeeping falls in your job description (unless you're talking about being cannon fodder for the US war machine).