Russia responds to 1244 breach accusations

"UN, NATO and EU officials in Priština yesterday blamed the Serb side and said their actions were in breach of Resolution 1244."

Let's just for once and for all agree or disagree whether UNSC Resolution 1244 is valid or not. If it is valid then the UDI is illegal, EULEX is illegal, and so on. Stop ignoring UNSC 1244 all the time unless it pleases you (for instance, to accuse the Kosovo Serbs or Serbia of anything). In that respect Serbia and Russia are very consistent in their comments and analysis.

"Ambassador Churkin yet again accused the Western countries of "creating a misunderstanding when it comes to the mandate of the UN mission under UN Security Council Resolution 1244," adding that the deployment of the European Union mission (EULEX) is "to a large extent" contradictory to the document."

A very diplomatic way of saying completely contradictory.

"Although it earlier warned NATO and UN in the province not to use force against the Serbs there, Moscow has not undertaken any steps in the wake of yesterday's violence."

I am sure that Serbia and the Kosovo Serbs are pleased with the continuing support of Russia and that they will not ask Russia to do irrational things. However, I hope that Russia will not resort to only rethoric. I am sure that the Russians know that NATO and the EU are testing Russia at the moment how far they can go and every time Russia keeps repeating that it is illegal they will try to go further. In my opinion NATO and the EU have crossed the red line a long time ago. Serbia and the Kosovo Serbs need all the help to deal with this illegal amputation of a part of their territory. Unfortunately my corrupt government is a US and NATO stooge. Europe has betrayed its principles and a true European country (Serbia) and for what?

"UN, NATO and EU officials in Priština yesterday blamed the Serb side and said their actions were in breach of Resolution 1244"

.....and how else is in breach of resolution 1244.........let me see...the UN, NATO and EU....and there's me thinking that the resolution no longer existed.....

Perhaps this is confirmation to the EU, US and the KLA terrorists that their illegal declaration has brought stability to the region...!

Russia once again speaks with complete logic. It is quite obvious that the UN, NATO and EU are working against the Serbian cause.

The violence they used yesterday against the Serbs was to provoke for propaganda purposes and to force Japan and Canada to recognise Kosovo.

However, I have to say this once again. You simply cannot break the will of a determined people. Serbia is guaranteed victory.

Russia better act soon they have no choice.

predictor

It is easy for you to say that Serbs have taken the matter into the own hands violently. Think now what would have happened had the international community ignored the UDI?

Double-edged sword, is what this whole Kosovo issue is.

Russia has no need to intervene in Kosovo; it can afford to stand and watch.

This is a mess created by the west by bending and breaking laws according to whim.

The EU looks particularly foolish. Their gleeful anticipation about their role in Kosovo has a lot of similarity with the naive attitude Bush had when going into Iraq.

The West's propaganda machine is churning so much that they themselves have even forgotten what Resolution 1244 is.

Predictor,

“… So question is, who actually used violence, the side that lost its member ore the one that did not??? …”

From the total of 100 wounded, majority are the Serbs, around 70. 15 are in serious, two in a critical condition. Make your own conclusion who was more violent.

OK.1244 is in force everybody agrees on that UN,US,UK,EU etc etc. Declaration of independence is clearly illegal act and Kosovo Albanians with support of US and others ignoring this fact big time and calling that "reality on field". Why Serbian side should respect any International or other agreement and stay on side? If I am Tadic I will order police and army units to enter at least Serbian enclaves and territories on Kosovo and restore order and Constitutional rights. That is internationally recognized Serbian territory and no one have that power to beat and mistreating Serbian citizens either they are Serbs, Roma, Turks or Albanians. They are citizens of Republic of Serbia and that is Serbian territory. End of story.

"It was possible to continue the talks without a use of violence" Vitaly Churkin said;

Come on, it is so obvious who have started using force, we all saw while the police were taking people out of the court, not using any violence, while crowd gathered in front of the court entrance gate threw Molotov cocktails and hand grenades on a UN police forces and KFOR troops.
We all know that one Ukrainian police officer aged 26 died as a consequence of the hand grenade thrown at the police, while around 50 of them are injured.
So question is, who actually used violence, the side that lost its member ore the one that did not???

"It was possible to continue the talks without a use of violence," said Russian UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin.

When Russia talks about "talks" that would mean "gaining time", "frustrate the people".

Did I read this right? The Albanians and KROR want international law respected????

More than happy to oblige. Declare your silly independence illegal and move out. Now that would be respecting international law.

Let's see if the EU is prepared to obey this law since they themselves have seen fit to trample all over it.

"Although it earlier warned NATO and UN in the province not to use force against the Serbs there, Moscow has not undertaken any steps in the wake of yesterday's violence. "

And they WILL NOT take any steps, do you know why???
THEY HAVE NO OPTIONS.
It is pathetic what Russians and DSS officials are trying to tell the world. Passe, that is.
Russia is also siding with China on Tibet crackdown on "violent Monks"?
WOW, I am appauled on this kind of old policies of Communist Russia and Communist China.
Time can not go back, it only moves forward, last time a red about it.

From the reports, it seems that DSS has a very different agenda then the rest of the Serbia's Government.
Even Respectful Mr. Sutanovac, who is the Defence Minister and is doing a great job of cooperating with NATO's KFOR, does NOT KNOW the famous action plan for Kosovo.

""It was possible to continue the talks without a use of violence," said Russian UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin."

EA & predictor:

Regardless of what one thinks Russia's motives actually are, this statement is completely correct.
There was no urgency to end the protest at the court-house on the 17th.

predictor:

Given the lack of urgency, one has to examine the decision to use force rather than negotiation to end the protest.

The question is: Was it foreseeable that sending in UNMIK to arrest the protesters would itself cause a riot?, Especially when it was done at the crack of dawn, on the aniversary day of the province-wide 2004 Kosovo attacks on the serbs by K-albanians.

For any reasonable person, the answer is yes - as was evident by numerous posts on this website by many people, including myself, both before & after the event.

The head of UNMIK Joachim Ruecker went ahead & did it anyway. What were his reasons? Anyone's guess.

Perhaps it was simple stupidity, or perhaps it was sheer bloody-minded obstinacy to enforce his interpretation of UNMIK's mandate, or perhaps it was a deliberate provocation on his part to get a violent reaction from the serbs. Who knows. I tend to think it was the latter, but that's my opinion.

Regardless, the act itself was just about guaranteed to cause a riot.. & it did.

Who bears responsibilty for the death(s?) and the other injuries?

For my part, I think the simplest way of deciding this is to put yourself in 'the other guy's shoes'.

If I gave the order to send in UNMIK, knowing that this would almost certainty cause a riot, and people were hurt & killed.. then I would have trouble sleeping afterwards.

If Ruecker has a conscience, then so will he.

"predictor

It is easy for you to say that Serbs have taken the matter into the own hands violently. Think now what would have happened had the international community ignored the UDI?

Double-edged sword, is what this whole Kosovo issue is.
(Peter Sudyka, 18 March 2008 22:13) "

And that is why we waited for their approval Peter. If we had not, we would not have gained anything. Not only that but we would have been in the position the Serbs are today. That is trying to stir up trouble so someone could listen to them. Every time they do that it gets worse for them, because it is not in our interest as Albanians to respond to provocations from the Serbs and get involved in violence. We would lose a lot that way. We do not lose anything, on the contrary we gain a lot of political points if the Serbs attack NATO and UNMIK.

To those Serbs talking about 1244. Go read it again. Independence is in full compliance with it. The transitional period is over.

"It was possible to continue the talks without a use of violence," said Russian UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin.

When Russia talks about "talks" that would mean "gaining time", "frustrate the people".

"Although it earlier warned NATO and UN in the province not to use force against the Serbs there, Moscow has not undertaken any steps in the wake of yesterday's violence. "

And they WILL NOT take any steps, do you know why???
THEY HAVE NO OPTIONS.
It is pathetic what Russians and DSS officials are trying to tell the world. Passe, that is.
Russia is also siding with China on Tibet crackdown on "violent Monks"?
WOW, I am appauled on this kind of old policies of Communist Russia and Communist China.
Time can not go back, it only moves forward, last time a red about it.

From the reports, it seems that DSS has a very different agenda then the rest of the Serbia's Government.
Even Respectful Mr. Sutanovac, who is the Defence Minister and is doing a great job of cooperating with NATO's KFOR, does NOT KNOW the famous action plan for Kosovo.

"It was possible to continue the talks without a use of violence" Vitaly Churkin said;

Come on, it is so obvious who have started using force, we all saw while the police were taking people out of the court, not using any violence, while crowd gathered in front of the court entrance gate threw Molotov cocktails and hand grenades on a UN police forces and KFOR troops.
We all know that one Ukrainian police officer aged 26 died as a consequence of the hand grenade thrown at the police, while around 50 of them are injured.
So question is, who actually used violence, the side that lost its member ore the one that did not???

Russia once again speaks with complete logic. It is quite obvious that the UN, NATO and EU are working against the Serbian cause.

The violence they used yesterday against the Serbs was to provoke for propaganda purposes and to force Japan and Canada to recognise Kosovo.

However, I have to say this once again. You simply cannot break the will of a determined people. Serbia is guaranteed victory.

"UN, NATO and EU officials in Priština yesterday blamed the Serb side and said their actions were in breach of Resolution 1244"

.....and how else is in breach of resolution 1244.........let me see...the UN, NATO and EU....and there's me thinking that the resolution no longer existed.....

Perhaps this is confirmation to the EU, US and the KLA terrorists that their illegal declaration has brought stability to the region...!

"UN, NATO and EU officials in Priština yesterday blamed the Serb side and said their actions were in breach of Resolution 1244."

Let's just for once and for all agree or disagree whether UNSC Resolution 1244 is valid or not. If it is valid then the UDI is illegal, EULEX is illegal, and so on. Stop ignoring UNSC 1244 all the time unless it pleases you (for instance, to accuse the Kosovo Serbs or Serbia of anything). In that respect Serbia and Russia are very consistent in their comments and analysis.

"Ambassador Churkin yet again accused the Western countries of "creating a misunderstanding when it comes to the mandate of the UN mission under UN Security Council Resolution 1244," adding that the deployment of the European Union mission (EULEX) is "to a large extent" contradictory to the document."

A very diplomatic way of saying completely contradictory.

"Although it earlier warned NATO and UN in the province not to use force against the Serbs there, Moscow has not undertaken any steps in the wake of yesterday's violence."

I am sure that Serbia and the Kosovo Serbs are pleased with the continuing support of Russia and that they will not ask Russia to do irrational things. However, I hope that Russia will not resort to only rethoric. I am sure that the Russians know that NATO and the EU are testing Russia at the moment how far they can go and every time Russia keeps repeating that it is illegal they will try to go further. In my opinion NATO and the EU have crossed the red line a long time ago. Serbia and the Kosovo Serbs need all the help to deal with this illegal amputation of a part of their territory. Unfortunately my corrupt government is a US and NATO stooge. Europe has betrayed its principles and a true European country (Serbia) and for what?

predictor

It is easy for you to say that Serbs have taken the matter into the own hands violently. Think now what would have happened had the international community ignored the UDI?

Double-edged sword, is what this whole Kosovo issue is.

Russia better act soon they have no choice.

Russia has no need to intervene in Kosovo; it can afford to stand and watch.

This is a mess created by the west by bending and breaking laws according to whim.

The EU looks particularly foolish. Their gleeful anticipation about their role in Kosovo has a lot of similarity with the naive attitude Bush had when going into Iraq.

Predictor,

“… So question is, who actually used violence, the side that lost its member ore the one that did not??? …”

From the total of 100 wounded, majority are the Serbs, around 70. 15 are in serious, two in a critical condition. Make your own conclusion who was more violent.

The West's propaganda machine is churning so much that they themselves have even forgotten what Resolution 1244 is.

OK.1244 is in force everybody agrees on that UN,US,UK,EU etc etc. Declaration of independence is clearly illegal act and Kosovo Albanians with support of US and others ignoring this fact big time and calling that "reality on field". Why Serbian side should respect any International or other agreement and stay on side? If I am Tadic I will order police and army units to enter at least Serbian enclaves and territories on Kosovo and restore order and Constitutional rights. That is internationally recognized Serbian territory and no one have that power to beat and mistreating Serbian citizens either they are Serbs, Roma, Turks or Albanians. They are citizens of Republic of Serbia and that is Serbian territory. End of story.

""It was possible to continue the talks without a use of violence," said Russian UN Ambassador Vitaly Churkin."

EA & predictor:

Regardless of what one thinks Russia's motives actually are, this statement is completely correct.
There was no urgency to end the protest at the court-house on the 17th.

predictor:

Given the lack of urgency, one has to examine the decision to use force rather than negotiation to end the protest.

The question is: Was it foreseeable that sending in UNMIK to arrest the protesters would itself cause a riot?, Especially when it was done at the crack of dawn, on the aniversary day of the province-wide 2004 Kosovo attacks on the serbs by K-albanians.

For any reasonable person, the answer is yes - as was evident by numerous posts on this website by many people, including myself, both before & after the event.

The head of UNMIK Joachim Ruecker went ahead & did it anyway. What were his reasons? Anyone's guess.

Perhaps it was simple stupidity, or perhaps it was sheer bloody-minded obstinacy to enforce his interpretation of UNMIK's mandate, or perhaps it was a deliberate provocation on his part to get a violent reaction from the serbs. Who knows. I tend to think it was the latter, but that's my opinion.

Regardless, the act itself was just about guaranteed to cause a riot.. & it did.

Who bears responsibilty for the death(s?) and the other injuries?

For my part, I think the simplest way of deciding this is to put yourself in 'the other guy's shoes'.

If I gave the order to send in UNMIK, knowing that this would almost certainty cause a riot, and people were hurt & killed.. then I would have trouble sleeping afterwards.

If Ruecker has a conscience, then so will he.

Did I read this right? The Albanians and KROR want international law respected????

More than happy to oblige. Declare your silly independence illegal and move out. Now that would be respecting international law.

Let's see if the EU is prepared to obey this law since they themselves have seen fit to trample all over it.

"predictor

It is easy for you to say that Serbs have taken the matter into the own hands violently. Think now what would have happened had the international community ignored the UDI?

Double-edged sword, is what this whole Kosovo issue is.
(Peter Sudyka, 18 March 2008 22:13) "

And that is why we waited for their approval Peter. If we had not, we would not have gained anything. Not only that but we would have been in the position the Serbs are today. That is trying to stir up trouble so someone could listen to them. Every time they do that it gets worse for them, because it is not in our interest as Albanians to respond to provocations from the Serbs and get involved in violence. We would lose a lot that way. We do not lose anything, on the contrary we gain a lot of political points if the Serbs attack NATO and UNMIK.

To those Serbs talking about 1244. Go read it again. Independence is in full compliance with it. The transitional period is over.