Japan, Canada recognize Kosovo

Thank you Japan.
I know, I know Princip UK, brumsila, Tom O'Donoghue. "US forced Japan too, right?!"
They are so powerfull that they can twist Japan's, UK's, Germany's etc etc but somehow they can't Cypress...please. More and more countries are realizing that independence of Kosova will sooner or later bring stability and prosperity to ALL Kosova people.
Peace

Today marks the birth of the spineless Samurai. Once a proud and mighty name now reduced to nothing more than a toy on strings for America.

Today on 18th of March 2008 Ukrainian Special Forces’ officer succumbed to injuries for American interests and Japan succumbed to American pressure, again for the American interests.

I hope that the world will finally open its eyes and see for whose interests they are dying and for whose interests they lose their pride and honour.

Japan - US rent boys = Enemies of the Serbs.

“Japan hopes that Kosovo independence will contribute to long-term stability in the region,“ says the ministry in a statement.
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Well done Japan, just after the UN and NATO cause violence against the Serbs, you go ahead and recognise this illegal failed puppet entity.

B92, there are only 28 nations recognising Kosovo. Taiwan is not not a UN recognised state so does not count.

However, as the US continues to arm twist nations into recognition, the overwhelming majority continue to support Serbia.

We have 70 nations confirmed that will NOT recognise or conditionally will NOT (due to UN, EU or Serbian approval) while a total 165 states are on our side with 28 against.

The recognition camp has pretty much stalled now.

Is seems that the Japanese foreign minister is also one of George W. Bush's lapdogs.

Thank You Japan!
Kosovo will work for Peace and Stability.
Serbia should not support hooligans and violence from serbian minorities.

This is a big one. Japan is second only to the States in terms of economic size, so technically Kosovo has support from the largest economies of the world (US, Japan and most of EU), if it had Russia and China then there would be no problem.

However this still does not change the fact that an agreement with Serbia has not been reached and that there will more than likely not be stability in the region until some sort of compromize is reached. I really think they need to go back to the negotiating table and try again, because even the economic might of the US, EU and Japan is not enough to ensure that there will be long-term stability in the region. Give peace a chance!

Thank you very much Japan.

my dear japanese friends...

but, that means that you won´t participate in the economic advantages that Serbia has to offer...

so much for backing down under US-american pressure...

The list of our friends is growing as time goes by.We had 29 recognitions within a month and the list is growing.It has exceeded our wildest expectations.Thank you Japan.

This is a big one. Japan is second only to the States in terms of economic size.
(Peter Sudyka, 18 March 2008 10:47)
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Peter, I think you need to update your economic knowledge. China is in fact the second largest economy and is expected to overtake the US in the coming years.

Japan's GDP is $4.3 trillion while China's is over $7 trillion GDP. Remember also that the economies of the G7 are failing just like the status of this illegal puppet entity. They go hand in hand.

Thanks Japan.
Another powerfull state.

Thank you Japan

They said some time ago that they'll pospone the recognision until Japan is convinced Kosovo is a safe place for all it's residents.
There you go spot on Japan for the timing.
Another hand twisting or alike.

This is a real big one.
Congratulations Kosova.
Tomorrow it is most likely the turn of Hungary.

History recognizes Pearl Harbor.

“Japan hopes that Kosovo independence will contribute to long-term stability in the region,“ says the ministry in a statement.

So, where is the stability? I cant see it! USA shoudnt interfere in european matters. They should begin to solve their own problems.

Thank you Japan.
I know, I know Princip UK, brumsila, Tom O'Donoghue. "US forced Japan too, right?!"
They are so powerfull that they can twist Japan's, UK's, Germany's etc etc but somehow they can't Cypress...please. More and more countries are realizing that independence of Kosova will sooner or later bring stability and prosperity to ALL Kosova people.
Peace
(arben, 18 March 2008 09:33)

Well Arben,

When the USA and UK went to war in Iraq they did pressure Holland to join them. The USA said, and this was in all the Dutch newspapers, that not taking part in the Iraq war would cause serious damage to the trade relations between the USA and Holland (and so Holland sent troups to Iraq). Therefore, it is not farfetched to assume that some countries recognized Kosovo merely to please emperor George W. Bush.

Hardly surprising. Japan is a willing and compliant ally of the US and has sent troops to Iraq and Afghanistan to die for Cheney and his cohorts.

Joe, if Hungary recognises Kosovo's illegal UDI, life could get very uncomfortable for the 400,000 Hungarians in Vojvodina. Would Budapest chance that? This is a major opportunity for Hungary to use her leeway in Vojvodina to secure concessions (a direct say in Vojvodina affairs) from Serbia in return for Budapest not recognising Pristina's UDI.

Anyway, wasnt Japan a member of the Axis in WW2? That might help to put some perspective on things.

Putin received a letter from Bush, and after that, Putin declared that the biggest problem remaining is the anti-rocket shield, which means that it is possible that there has been reached an agreement regarding recognition of the Kosovo. So, after the Japan recognition, I think that would come a great wave of Asian (Arab and non) recognition.

Thank you Japan ... and one more unemployed ambassador.

God bless Kosova

Do albans really think this is going to bring stability?? By stealing our land by force? This is going to be exactly the opposite. albanians - you can even get mars to recognize your fake country. It doesn't matter because Serbia will never bow down to the occupying forces. Serbia is the rightful owner of KiM, end of story.

Countries that formaly recognized Kosovo make up 63.77 % of the world's total nominal GDP

:) and you reckon, that's got some bearing on your dire situation? kosovo is a territory without a status, with deteriorating security situation, and all that will keep investors away for..., well, ever. or until a negotiated settlement. y'all know that anyway. japan for instance won't even invest in serbia, which is a real country with real workforce and infrastructure and yet it's too risky for japan. imagine kosovo then :) or maybe i should say, :(
anyway, they do like to throw couple of 10s or even 100s of 1000s of dollars of aid from time to time. expect that, and be sure to show gratitude.
now, since we talk numbers... percentage and that.
did you know that the cia factbook says, and i quote here, "93.71% of all drug trafficking in europe goes through or originates from kosovo". but like i said numbers should have no bearing on you people, you're good folks :) with a great future :)

Not a very smart thing to do Canada! Next country that will declare indepence will be .... Quebec. The Parti Quebecois (separatist party from Quebec) will argue that Kosovo is not a unique case and will push for an independent Quebec. Vive Quebec!

Thank you, that's how all the world should do Recognizes Kosovo

Oh no, another unimportant country has decided to recognize K-Independence. Who cares what US, UK, France, Japan.... thinks, It's Slovakia, Russia, Timbuktu we should be worried about.

Japan rewards ethnic cleansing and KLA gangsterism. How this will contribute to 'stability' anywhere is beyond me. This is the same country that has not apologized for the crimes of its fascist past. No surprise here that they don't care at all about international law and justice.

Long live Serbia. Down with the KLA mafia state. Protect Roma and Serbs from ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide!

Thank you Japan!

Good luck Kosovo!

I like how Albanian camp divides world to important and unimportant countries, to most powerfull and those unaccountable, to wealthiest and miserables...
it all shows what's really matter to them

On account of Japan they used to be a colonial power waging wars far away from their land.
They are just back to the club again.
To have one of the most conservative, traditionalistic and nationalistic country in the world for an illegal recognition is not a great deal.

Like wow there is a surprise. Another country that lost WW2 recognizes Kosovo. No worries Japan will be in a lot of trouble on their own once the Olympics are over.

I am shocked with the decision made my my home country of CANADA today. I didn't realize how many enenies Serbia has. I am quite certain that the citiizens of Serbia proper will vote and against EU integration on May 11, 2008. Serbia may as well keep it's distance from the recognizing countries and try to rebuild itself with countries that respect it's National Identity and her contributions to society.

Countries that formaly recognized Kosovo make up 63.77 % of the world's total nominal GDP (data from CIA factbook and worldbank 2007)

Just goes to show there's nothing like a couple of nuclear bombs to influence the policy of a country.

Thanks to Japan and its people, they have supported Kosovo from 99`. I am grateful to Japan for your help.
Thank you, may peace prevail in this region.

I don't know why Kosovars are so happy to be independant they have:
NO ELECTRIC POWER
NO INDUSTRY
NO WIDE SCALE AGRICULTURE

Who will be paying for everything they need for the next 100 years, the EU I guess, that is why they are so happy probably.

As a Canadian I think we should not of recongnized this state, except under a UN agreeement between both parties.
Was International law by-passed by super power to attain their own objectives : I think so.

US succeeded in strong arming. For the moment there are only 28 nations out of 193 who recognized the NATO statelets independence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence#_note-80
Taiwan is not an independent state but a chineese province without international recognition as will be Kosovo.

Olf wrote: China economy largest customer is USA. Can you imagine what can happen if this market is in crisis or if US$ stays at current rate, it would mean that Americans can buy their products for cheaper price than Chinese.
You claim that you do not need all these countries to support Serbia but I think that you are bluffing.
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Now the day the US can make goods cheaper than China is the day it enters the third world economy. I have been saying all along that the Western economies are in rapid decline. The East will continue to rise and support itself.

As for support of countries, just China and Russia are sufficient to keep Kosovo out of the UN and to keep it an illegal-quasi-failed-puppet entity. However, I very much welcome the support of the other 163 states. So with a bit of arm twisting it may shrink a little but the overwhelming majority will continue to support Serbia. What more can be said?

I think that Kosovo need at least the countries of the Arab league ..some countries fron central and South America and few from Africa before can say that it has been recognize..
Idon't buy the argument of the Gdp or other economic values..the true is that till now Kosovo has the support of less countries that was expected..
P.S. ridicoulous also(in the other camp ) the argument of losing Serbia as a rich market...Serbia is a poor country all the State that recognize Kosovo can live without "the rich Serbian market " !!!

"Nial

Vojvodina is a good example for you to understand what Serbia has tried to do in Kosova. Vojvodina was never Serb land, but Serbs got it from Yugoslavia, now they are sending all the Serb refugees/colonising from Krajina, Kosova and Bosnia .
Hungary can, at the same time, recognise Kosova as Independent and ask for return of Vojvodina. - Olf"

Olf my German friend,

When was the last time you were in Vojvodina. I have ben there many times and Vojvodina is a perfect example of peace and harmony among the many different ethnic groups. On the streets of Novi Sad you will see ethnic Slovak, Hungarian and Croatian policeman. The Novi Sad City Council which is controlled by the Radicals conducts its business in nearly a dozen different languages.

The Serb refugees were driven out of their homes in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosmet simply on the basis of their ethnicity. Where else were they go to? Mars?

The Radicals have warned that Hungary's recognition of KiM UDI could ignite ethnic tensions between the ethnic groups. Belgrade must do all it can to face down the extremists and the purveyors of false propaganda who blacken her name including people like you Olf.

Are you planning to visit Novi sad or Vojvodina any time soon. You will be glad to know that 1) Vojvodina whether you like it or not is a constituent part of Serbia and 2) Despite what Budapest thinks, its in position to change Vojvodina's status.

If you Serbs have forgotten what happened in Vukovar Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova, the world hasn't. do yourself a favor and accept the reality, appologize to your neighburs.
Thank you Japan.

That's big. No other way to slice it.

"Quebec has never experinced massive killings as Albanians did from Serbia nine years ago, so it would be very sad for them if they would try to isolate themselves from the rest of other Canadian provincies and territories. But, if this really happens Canada is not going to threten with the use of force."

Exactly. More to the point, Kosovar independence doesn't set a new precedent. Rather, as I blogged over at my place
Kosovo became independent following much the same pattern as Bangladesh. In both cases, following worsening human rights abuses against local populatuions by central states and the beginnings of a war of independence, neighbouring powers (NATO in the case of Kosovo, India in the case of Bangladesh) intervened militarily on the minority's behalf, detaching their territories from the control of the central state and making them independent. Eritrean independence follows a similar trajectory, although in that case Eritrea won its war by itself. If Iraqi Kurdistan becomes independent, it would have followed the Bangladesh-Kosovo trajectory.

Note that, in Bangladesh's case, universal recognition came late. It only got into the United Nations in 1974. Part of that was power politicals, as the United States and especially China didn't want to condone India's surgical dissection of a Pakistan that was India's only challenger in the region. It even came close to some sort of armed conflict: Kissinger sent an American aircraft carrier group to monitor the Indians, the Soviets sent a nuclear submarine to monitor the Americans. For all that, in the December 1971-May 1972 period, seventy countries recognized Bangladesh.

Now let's look at Kosovo. Thirty countries which have recognized Kosovo so far in the space of a month--not bad compared to Bangladesh, you'd have to admit. A Russian military deployment to Kosovo is unlikely, as Lavrov has already specifrically excluded it. Serbia is relatively isolated in the region--the Radicals' implicit threats to ethnic Hungarians are spectacularly stupid--and is surrounded by the European Union and EU aspirant countries, most of which are following the line of the major powers. Many countries in the Islamic world may be ready to recognize Kosovo. Other countries are going to take longer, true, but if late Maoist China could be convinced to accept the reality on the ground after a few years, why not Brazil, or modern China, or even Russia?

Kosovo is relevant to secessionism inasmuch as secessions triggered by humanitarian outrages and enforced by military interventions have happened and have eventually been endorsed. This, as others have noted, isn't a very likely scenario for Québec, or Scotland, or Catalonia, or the other secessionist issues in the developed world. The precedent that pstates can break up has been well-established for centuries, similarly that breakaway bits of existing states can separate with the consent of the parent state. There's just a few exceptions and Kosovo happens to fit the paradigm to a T.

you can add one more to that list because canada has just recognized kosove. how many are we up to now?

Canada, shame on you!

thANK YOU JAPAN
god bless you all

Thank you Japan.....

It seems that some people are getting lost on the comments. I don't think it's a matter of if places like Taiwan are members of UN, what's important is that they've expressed the views of recognizing a newly independent state such as Kosova.

It's a real shame what's happening in Mitrovica, at the end of the day politicians from Belgrade aren't going to be living in Kosova, so they should stop interfering and support the Serbs through their special channels that are open under the Ahtisari plan.

Once again, Thank You - Japan!

my dear japanese friends...

but, that means that you won´t participate in the economic advantages that Serbia has to offer...

so much for backing down under US-american pressure..."

I hope you are being ironic jovan, till the day russian economy is counted with US$ that means that serbia is US$ also my friend.
from your rhetoric it sounds as a economical threat to japan, haha

and mister ZK UK, still in a comfortable position to spread propaganda that the Un started abusing their power after the serbians stooped and stoned the vans, un retaliating with teargas, and bombs and aks were fired back, that was yesterday and not in 99, and even now you are trying to use your propaganda mate

“….refugees/colonising from Krajina, Kosova and Bosnia …. “

Olf, you turned reality upside down, you are blaming the victim. In total, one million Serb refuges are expelled from their ancestors homes, where they lived for centuries, buy Croatian, Bosnian Muslim and Kosovo Albanian extremists. They escaped to Serbia. Serbian authorities didn’t colonize them, they gave them refuge and these people can settle anywhere on the territory of Serbia, just as any other citizen. Most of them got Serb citizenship. Help centers for refugees were spread through out the country, although refugees tended to concentrate in Vojvodina, the biggest agricultural province in Serbia, where food and some temporary work on the land is relatively easy to come by. (Most of these people lost everything and they were really on the existential minimum).

Kushtrimi,

“… what happened in …. Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova, the world hasn't. do yourself a favor and accept the reality, appologize to your neighburs… “

Reality is that there was a chaotic, vicious, messy, civil war, in big part prepared, and loosely controlled by a couple of extern powers. Warring parties shown little respect for the rules of the war. Lot of civilians died. Extreme nationalists in the Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, expelled Serb minority and formed almost completely mono – ethnic states. Serbia is most multi cultural of all the states of ex – YU. Number of minorities didn’t significantly change before, during and after the war. Serbia has a biggest number of refugees of all the countries on European continent.

If we won’t reconciliation, ALL parties have to come to terms with their wrong doings. Responsible for the crimes should be punished according to the universal law, same for the all parties. Truth have to be told. Everyone to accept his part of the guilt. Refugees have to be compensated somehow and provided with a means for normal existence. They must return to their homes.

Just demonizing Serbs and victimizing all others, won’t do it.

Thank you Japan for your support and recognition.

Countries that formally recognize Kosova make up 63.77% of the World's Total nominal GDP

Well Enis from Denmark (#42),

What would happen if Americans would boycott cars (Honda, Toyota & Mazda), motor cycles (Yamaha, Suzuki & Kawasaki) and television sets (Sony, JVC & Panasonic) from Japan?

The Japanese just cannot afford to stand up to George W. Bush.

Wait a minute..Canada will never recognize Kosovo, now who said that??

Here is to you Canada....Cheers

Guys, have you forgotten of the state of Serbia when it declared it’s Independence?

Have you all forgotten why Serbia exists?

Have you all forgotten result of what is the existence of the current state of Serbia?

Nial

Vojvodina is a good example for you to understand what Serbia has tried to do in Kosova. Vojvodina was never Serb land, but Serbs got it from Yugoslavia, now they are sending all the Serb refugees/colonising from Krajina, Kosova and Bosnia .
Hungary can, at the same time, recognise Kosova as Independent and ask for return of Vojvodina.

ZK UK
Stop consoling yourself with those data. See what will happen after the Olympic games in Chinas economy. China economy largest customer is USA. Can you imagine what can happen if this market is in crisis or if US$ stays at current rate, it would mean that Americans can buy their products for cheaper price than Chinese.
You claim that you do not need all these countries to support Serbia but I think that you are bluffing.

Smile

mate, it seems that you are not aware that drug trafficking, prostitution, money laundering etc. is organised by the gangs in the Balkan countries including Serbia at the top of the organisation. Do some professional research my friend.

cheers, canda just recognize the UDI, Russia is feeling pressure i gues :D

Cool. And best regards to "Another Canadian Serb" - who made me an K-Albanian some days ago in this forum! Okay, your country (as you said) recognised my fake state - as you would say. I am not afraid anymore, at the moment it's a cool feeling! Thanks Canada, thanks Japan.

I don't know why Kosovars are so happy to be independant they have:
NO ELECTRIC POWER
NO INDUSTRY
NO WIDE SCALE AGRICULTURE
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(Bulldog, 18 March 2008 22:02)

Why you are so worried about Kosovo? You live in Kosovo?
ELECTRIC POWER WE HAVE 24/24
Only 1h per day is missing,BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT 99% of Kosovars have ELECTRIC GENERATORS,There is no great panic!
NO INDUSTRY- Use your brain and think a little who destroyd Industry of Kosovo?
With some help from EU and USA we will be better than some other Balkan Countries,Kosovo have only 2 million people not 8 or 10.
NO WIDE SCALE AGRICULTURE- this is funny,you have to visit this days some agriculture regions and after i want to see how you speak!
As for information this year we dont really need any agriculture imports.Check Export in Serbia to Kosovo and get the results(-50%)in this last Month.
Anyway,THANKS TO CANADA!

7 trillion? The last stats I had were from 2006, they say that PRC is worth over 2 trillion
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Peter, Over $7 Trillion, that's what it says on the CIA website.

The G8 just got blue-er. Japan is a key recognition, it marks almost complete recognition by G8.

Thank you very very much Japan!

The rest of the world; keep 'em coming!

Hey, B92!

In #58 you edited my first phrase: "Arigato, Japan!". "Arigato" means "Thank you" in Japanese. I really don't understand why you did edit it...

Hi again B92,

Let me help you

1 hour ago

OTTAWA (AFP) — Canada on Tuesday recognized Kosovo's independence from Serbia, proclaimed last month, said Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier, prompting Serbia to recall its ambassador in Ottawa.

"Today, we joined the international community and recognized Kosovo as a new state," Bernier told public broadcaster CBC.

Thank you Canada!!!

Cmon B92, you could have given them their own article.

Ahmed wrote. The list of our friends is growing as time goes by.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but these countries are not your friends. They don't have friends as they clearly have proved that. In the past these countries were allies with the Serbs and see how they are capable of stabbing their allies in the back. What makes you think they are your friends?

#56 Kushtrimi wrote. If you Serbs have forgotten what happened in Vukovar, Bosnia and Kosova, the world hasn't.

No the Serbs have not forgotten the crimes dones against them in those places and neve will. They are still fighting to have crimes being done to them even today to stop.

For your information a lot that has come out of those regions during the war was propaganda. Serbs were very much victims then as they are now.

Justice will prevail and Serbia will learn a very important lesson, which is don't ever trust the US, UK or Germany as they will always stab you in the back.

Germany was never a friend of Serbia, but the others are a huge stab in the back and a warped thank you for sacrifices during the two world wars.

Canada has made a huge error. This will be used by the Quebecois to gain more concessions out of Federal Government.

Talk about cutting your own throat.

NOW i will never regret that i came to Canada. THANK YOU JAPAN, THANK YOU CANADA

Un started abusing their power after the serbians stooped and stoned the vans
(Adriano, 18 March 2008 14:46)

Correct, it was the UN and NATOs fault for an escalation in violence at such a fragile time. The UN is now responsible for the death of one of its policemen and I hope a full investigation takes place. Whoever ordered this violent act needs to be put on trial.

There were negotiations going on between the Serbs and the UN to resolve this peaceful protest and someone saw that as a threat.

You can be sure the Serbs will defend themselves and others in need.

smile: "now, since we talk numbers... percentage and that.
did you know that the cia factbook says, and i quote here, "93.71% of all drug trafficking in europe goes through or originates from kosovo". but like i said numbers should have no bearing on you people,"

Numbers that someone just makes up, of course have no bearing on anyone. Here's the CIA world factbook entry for the country of Kosova:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/kv.html
Your numbers do not figure there.
It's illogical to thing that over 90% of drug trafficing in Europe goes through such a small territory as Kosova, because such a choke point could be easily controlled by Interpol. Kosova is neither a producer nor a consumer of drugs. It borders neither Afghanistan, nor Columbia, nor the rich destinations in EU, so even if some traffic goes through Kosova, it must definitively go through many many other countries before and after.

Enis & Ment,

You must remember that five years ago, when America went to war in Iraq (because of the weapons of mass destruction that only existed in the mind of emperor George W. Bush), the French were quite critical of the USA. Bush then called for a boycott of French products. And surprise surprise, sales of French wine (and Bordeaux wines are the best in the world) dropped dramatically in the USA! So Japan standing up against Bush could result in a boycott.

Thank You! Merci
Canada

Canada recognizes Kosovo: foreign minister

1 hour ago

OTTAWA (AFP) — Canada on Tuesday recognized Kosovo's independence from Serbia, proclaimed last month, said Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier, prompting Serbia to recall its ambassador in Ottawa.

"Today, we joined the international community and recognized Kosovo as a new state," Bernier told public broadcaster CBC.

Good news from Canada!
Canada recognizes the independence of Kosovo!

Thank You Japan!
Keep 'em coming.
Tomorrow to recognize Kosovo is Croatia.

'Your numbers do not figure there.'

anyway i don't want to keep you researching huge databases sweating to confirm or deny my carefully-thought-of number :) guilty as charged, i was fooling around, you guys. cia's data on kosovo drug trade is company info, they dont share it :)
and, i KNEW if i put a decimal you guys would buy it :)) well, enough to check.
why is that? well, it looks credible, dont it. it just looks possible, based on all we all know about kosovo's drug trade.
the real figure is 95.87%, btw.

as for kosovo's uniqueness..
the only unique thing about you albanians in our serb province of kosovo, compared to other terror/secession groups in other places, is that you're up against us. that's right. 99.99% of the world's gdp, the biggest military might in the history of man, all mobbing against serbia this small european country, with no real leadership right now, but tell me, how's that independence thing coming along? when are un, nato, eu... mup :) leaving exactly? how's that territorial integrity bummer standing? is there a chill, is anything freezing? how's un membership? how's investment? how's the future :)

I think I read here someday that people were praising Canada as a good, peacful and democratic country. I hope those guys are not going to change their minds about Canada now that it has reconized Kosova/o. Quebec is not going to make a move b.o. this. They had their own referendum three times and it did not pass, that means French people are not quite happy with that option. Quebec has never experinced massive killings as Albanians did from Serbia nine years ago, so it would be very sad for them if they would try to isolate themselves from the rest of other Canadian provincies and territories. But, if this really happens Canada is not going to threten with the use of force. Albanans live in 90 procent of their contry, so they have a right to role themselves. This is a reality and this has been recognized from Canada today.
I think lots of countries are going to follow Canada and Japan and the Kosova/o issue is going to be a closed chapter for less than e year from now, including Serbia as a country that will recognise Kosova/o. The sooner the better. Albanians are the biggest forgivers and what they want is to have peace in their home, to be able to go to bed not thinking about Serbian police who come in the midle of the night and storm your house, just because you had an argument during the day with your best Serbian friend! Albanians still want to go to Belgade either for health services, for business purposes, or just to hang out with their Serbian friends, but at the same time they want to be sound and safe in their homes and this what independnce brings
for them.
Liri,
Canada

Marco

Japan is recognizing a country, not going to war with America.

As someone who lives in the States, I can guarantee you the Americans would not boycott Japanese products over Kosovo? Why?

1. They're the best cars and electronics in town.
2. All Japanese carmakers make their cars in factories located in the United States, in other words...made by Americans.

Tom, Niall, Brian

I've come to accept your hostility towards Albanians, even though I don't quite understand it.

Having said that, your comments on this particular topic are just downright petty.

To BULDOG; As far as we are NOT under serbi's regime, we are happy to live what you say with no power, economy, etc.
We've got freedom, that's what matter.
Thank you Canada!

Thank you very much/ merci beaucoup Canada!

I have been following this whole charade for over 2 years now and today I am compelled to add my own comments.
I have 1 question for all you Albanians out there- what do you really think you are going to gain by this illegal declaration of independence?? Do you really think your world is going to change? Do you think that by this time next year you will have a thriving economy? You all state on here that you want to out from under Serbian rule- technically you have been for almost 10 years- what have you accomplished in that time???
Yes, is easy for me to sit here and make these comments coming from a country who's morals and economics differ so greatly then yours, but it just doesn't make sense to me.
Is like a child wanting another child's toy- not because he wants to play with it- is just so he can take it.
today my country recognized your independence and yes you all can put another mark on the wall, but I and many of my fellow Canadians are shocked that our country would recognize such an illegal act!!!! I do not think your life is going to change as you think it will, and many of you say you are prepared to suffer more hardships to have independence- well I don't think your hardships have even began, you are a pawn in a very dangerous game and if you really think all these supports of recognition are because countries care of about the welfare of your people- you are in for a very rude awakening Good luck because you will need it

You Albanians will never be independent. You are now a colony of the U.S. and EU and will be governed by them ad infinitum.
Your new government cannot pass laws or do anything a free country is allowed unless it is approved by the U.S. and EU.
Your new dictator Pres. Bush, along with the EU and countries that support your independence, will take your oil and other natural resources.
They will pay you starvation wages to work in the oil fields and mines while highly-paid outsiders will be your new bosses.
In the meantime, you will dance in the streets and wave Albanian flags and celebrate your independence.
Wake up - you have been surreptitiously conquered by modern-day Crusaders.
You are now Soulless-Indentured-Slaves to your new Capitalistic Christian Masters.

ZK UK

7 trillion? The last stats I had were from 2006, they say that PRC is worth over 2 trillion, it's impossible that they have almost quadrupelled in the last two years. I think you have mixed something up, China is 4th in the world (after USA, Japan and Germany). Still a massive power, nonetheless. Then again, I got my info from Wikipedia, so who knows?

Marco

I know what you mean. Poland was pressured into Iraq, Afghanistan and most recently with this missile shield. Kosovo recognition was also achieved through US and particularly German pressure. I think it's because the Netherlands are a very strong economy and Poland is one of the largest EU states, I don't know.

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Well I dont think it would be so wise for Serbia to start a war in Vojvodina because Hungary is a EU member state as you know and the other EU member states will go help Hungary without any double thoughts? And Serbia will also lose Vojvodina?

And if the Serbs start discriminating the Hungarians then thank good Kosova is independent? Than you will see every country of the world start a mass recognision of Kosova...

41*
Olypics in Japan? LOL
No comment needed...

O Canada, O Canada:)

I don't understand why our fellow brothers up north have so much animosity against the U.S, yet they watch MTV, ESPN, HBO, CBS, ABC, CNN:)

I wonder when is Spain going to say the same thing!!

I am proud of you CANADA

Marco, Amsterdam

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Okay I havent heard that if it was so the world media would inform that but I think more it is the speches to the nation were bush says who is with them or against them? You know in the war of terror? I was and am myself against the war in Irak and maybe not so pro the bush administration? But i agree with him in Afghanistan they were hidding the Al Qaida and the Taliban weren't the most democratical goverment? The basic rights were out of function and the people of Afghanistan needed it?

But you know if a country goverment or so makes a boycott of a country they van be sued and get the loss paid? but if the population desides it then none is responsiible only if it happens by some law or so it's illegal?


P.S Thank you Canada, Merci Canada...

Japan had no choice if they want to retain US support over their territorial claims to the 4 Kurile islands now under Russian occupation.

As for Canada, it shares over 2000 km of border with the US -- ouch! What an uncomfortable position to be in. Might be alleviated in the future when Quebec secedes .......

Anyway bottom line is this: no matter how many or how few countries recognize Pristina, it can never hope to get pass Moscow and Beijing in the UN.

Where are the "Canadians" swearing that Canada would have not ever recognized Kosovo as an independent country?

As a Canadian I think we should not of recongnized this state, except under a UN agreeement between both parties.
Was International law by-passed by super power to attain their own objectives : I think so.
(Bulldog, 18 March 2008 22:02)

I agree, I am Canadian with no Serbian or Albanian heritge and it's disappointing to see this happen as we have always been a country that respects international law and holds value in the UN.

But regardless of what our government declares, it does not mean that Canada as an entire nation supports Kosovo's declaration of dependence. If the media here were to let the people of Canada know that the new state we just declared support for is run by the former leader of a terrorist organization and that it's minorities live behind barbed wire for their own protection - then I think public perception would change.

Serbia needs to be more vocal to the world about how Serbs and other minorities in Kosovo are being treated, it's hard to counter the American propaganda machine (i.e. the media and state department) but if more people could see what was going on, the Serbs would have more support.

So as a Canadian I want to voice my disapproval of my governments decision and let Serbia know it still has support in Canada.

I look forward to Quebecois and Okinawa seceding from Canada and Japan.

You reap what you sow.

Thank you JAPAN,
Thank you CANADA,

Marco Amsterdam are you saying that Cyprus, Romania and Slovakia are more powerfull that Japan??? I dont think it's very realistic that these country that recognize Kosova are being threatend it's their own free will? just like the Dutch did and others? Many of the country have stated they will wait and se but with time they will recognise Kosovo as an independent country? None is forcing them to do so? if that was the case every EU country would recognise it while the so called big 4 have done so and could easilly threaten them?

But those things that countrys bully each other into decision isn't realistic? Many EU country didn't take part in the war agaisnt Irak? And don't critisize the war in Afghanistan that was acctually supported by UN?

Everytime the violence or radicalization is initiated in Serbia, another country recognizes Kosova. I hope that the radicals win in Serbia, then even those few that haven't agreed to recognition yet won't have any choice but to do so.

By the way, there was never any doubt about Canada and Japan.
Thank you.

Rolerkoster (#83),

I have friends in Quebec who are supporters of the Parti Quebecois, and they told me that as soon as their party is back in power in Quebec, they will organize a new referendum on sovereignty and use Canada recognizing Kosovo as an extra argument to separate from the anglophone part of Canada.

Attention: Peace
Your right in the fact it was not a civil war, but more of a playground squabble.
Had Serbia wanted to, she could have crushed an opposing Army in the 1990's. Stop telling yourself lies!
The Serbian Army was focused on controlling the masses and safety of her civilians and was not concentrated on destroying opposing "Militaries".
Not to mention Serbia was threatened by the Amercians, not to oppose the succession of her States.
Read some factual literature before posting on B92.

I hope you are ready to smile m Smile with some numbers: Serbias greatest suporters being Russians who are Occupying 4 Japanese islands to this day. Japans enemy's enemy is their friend.
I am not sure what you had in mind with 94% of all eu drug trades, If that was true and Kosova provided nearly 400million people with drugs, we would be kings of the world man, that would mean we would run our cars on drugs, our electricity by burning drugs and new biochemical fuels could come also from drugs.
Let me tell you something else, from 2 million you give us 94 percent of europe, what about the 10 million serbs? are they just consumers?
By the way b92 the japanese text said "thank you japan"

http://www.sofiaecho.com/article/60kg-of-heroin-and-serbian-drug-trafficker-seized-in-bulgaria/id_26845/catid_66

Peter Sudyka, don't worry, the agreement with Serbia will arrive sooner than many here may think. I really hope the SRS win in the elections: they don't have the excuse of SRS for not doing nothing. And they'll have to run the country, which is different from sitting in the opposition and doing nothing. It's a cool reasoning: Serbia cannot choke Kosovo any more and, with Serbia and Kosovo in this status quo they both are tramping each others' feet. The Russian friends will soon after the elections tell their Serbian friends, they'll have to find out an exit strategy. The Southstream and much more cannot run through an undefined, unstable country. It's the best for everyone, or the win-win solution, as else loved to define it.

"Anyway, wasnt Japan a member of the Axis in WW2? That might help to put some perspective on things."
(Niall O'Doherty, 18 March 2008 15:43)

(Ironic) Good perspective Niall O'Doherty...

"I wonder when is Spain going to say the same thing!!"
(Francis, 18 March 2008 22:38)

I guess if or when peaceful Serbs kill some other UN or KFOR personnel. Hope for KFOR and UN and everybody that it doesn't happen.
Or when the Nikolic wins. Because looking from the comments and perspectives here, he will win.
Or when other MUP officers are discovered stirring up things in Kosovo.

The Parti Quebecois (separatist party from Quebec) will argue that Kosovo is not a unique case and will push for an independent Quebec. Vive Quebec!
(Marco, Amsterdam, 18 March 2008 22:21)

Maybe Quebec separatists needs some support from some successful specialists on Balkan peninsula? :)

Sorry for behaving a little bit more polemic - but do you really think, the government of Canada would prepare such a decision like a state with - let's say - less than one decade experience in democracy?

Spain had elections 10 days ago - let's see, how the re-elected government will decide, when Kosovo is on the agenda.

Canada, Japan, well what to say, US is still able to push a lot… Canada does have a number of officials who knows the truth. Here is the site of former Canadian ambassador to YU: http://www.deltax.net/bissett/

“… Albanians are the biggest forgivers … “

Liri, is this a joke or what? There are not many folks in Europe aside from Albanians that are still practicing blood feuds. It’s a quite common to take revenge for something that happened decades ago , or even couple of generations ago. Every Albanian man has a fire arms and has been trained in shooting as a young adolescent.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4273020.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/03/wfeud03.xml
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=lTbI09qW92s

Randy McDonald,
what mass killing are you referring to? Do you deny that the exodus of Serbian's kosovo were lead by NATO. What happened to the 300 000 Serbians that were forced from Kosovo. Why have the international community ignored the statements from General Lewis Mackenzie.
Serbia has been aquitted of Genocide charges, as was Slobodan Milosevic. Even world forensic specialists confirm that no genocide took place.
How can you sleep at night, knowing full well that the Serbians are falsely accused for crimes they never committed.
Why do you deny every statement made by a Canadian Representative.
Are you an anti Serb?

To: Endri, Albania

FYI - I live in the USA. I am not a Serbian.
Here are the brutal facts and not my opinions:

Following 9/11 a large majority of Americans do not like muslims.
Christian nations, the new Crusaders, will now tell what you can and can't do.
The US does not care about you, Albania or Kosovo.
Pres. Bush's has two objectives: 1) Prevent Russia from ever becoming a Super Power again. 2) How we can plunder your oil and natural resources.
The EU and NATO do what they are told by the US. (familiar with the term "Lapdogs"?)
Thaci will do exactly as he is told by Washington.
Albanians are now the property of the US and will do as we tell them or suffer the consequences.
Camp Bondsteel was not built to protect you but to serve as a base for the occupation of Kosovo and for our Rendition Program.

You are probably outraged by what I wrote above. Although sad for you it is true. And in the not-too-distant future you will realize
the folly of your current euphoria and turn against the hand (US) that feeds you.
By then it will be too late. We have the greatest battle-tested military in the world and resistance to our authority will be both futile and suicidal.
Good luck with your dreams and beware of the nightmare that awaits you.

NEWS FLASH:
A U.S. State Dept. official confirmed to media sources, that Hashim Thaçi and other leaders of the newly formed state of Kosovo, will answer directly to the U.S.Govt.
The Kosovo leadership will be provided with directives that serve in the best interest of the U.S.
Failure to strictly adhere to policies formed in Washington will result in severe consequences.
This includes removing obstacles that allows War Crime Charges to be filed against Thaçi and those who do not follow U.S. directives.
And additional action by the U.S. may include not supporting Kosovo's statehood at the UN.

Penjack,
i just want to thank you for your posting because it is a breath of fresh air.

Kosovo is Serbian!

to Adriano, who adressed me personally:

My comment was censored, as you certainly will have realized...

thanks to B92, the posters aren´t allowed to write the most harmless comments here...

quite sad, from the standpoint of "freedom of speech"...

THANK YOU CANADA! So proud to be Canadian.

Shame on you Canada. It was not a surprise that an incompetent PM like Chretien decided to side with the US in 1999. I had high hopes that now Canada would make a more independent decision, especially considering its own challenges with Quebec. I know that many Canadians do not agree with this decision, but I am still quite disappointed.

Marco when it comes to boycotting those things it's only the populations that can do that you have the international court that can go in and look at the case if a country boycots another? Even the Bush administration isen't that stupid not to know that they will be sued to pay in lost income to Japan?

Since i'm from Denmark I can mention the cartoon crisis where lots of arabic/muslim countrys wanted to boycott Denmark but the danish goverment where calm since it could get its money back?

And since you use so much time making Americans look stupid they would even know that Japan didn't recognize Kosova against US and A's will??? They would first ask what is Japan? didn't we destroy it during WW2???

"Liri, is this a joke or what? There are not many folks in Europe aside from Albanians that are still practicing blood feuds.”
Steve

Your links have nothing to do with the situation in Kosovo today so do not try to twist the facts. The crime rate in Prishtina is one of the lowest amongst European countries fore sure. I witnessed myself hundreds of cases that Albanians in Kosovo have forgiven others, but they want criminals to get punished and that is the matter of the law. So not any killer can go and be forgiven in Kosovo regardless the nationality they belong to. Forgiveness means what Albanian politicians have done recently, adopting Ahtisari’s Plan which guarantees Serbian minority all the rights that Albanians have and, in addition to that, it recognizes their right to have spiritual, cultural, medical, economical and all other kinds of relations with Serbia. Albanians seem to be really commited to convey their pledge to international Community about integration of Serbs in Kosovo institutions regardless of nonsense moves coming from Belgrade. So it is the right time for you to contribute to your counterparts in Kosovo with clear messages and honest views, because SRS is not going to solve any of their problems; they would just add one more problem perhaps. What needs to be done? Serbs in Kosovo must be told that reality of independence is not going to change so they can start with making their minds up on what is best for them. Up to date they have been betrayed by their politicians who did not let them take part in Parliament, in Government, in Kosovo Police etc promising integration of Kosovo into Serbia! It is time for real Serbian politicians, or Serbian heroes I would say, who would dare to admit that all what has been done by Serbian politics in terms of Kosovo so far, is just a failure and, to not encourage them for some sort of parallelism in Kosovo, because it is not likely to work. Get things straight in a path, since there is lot of potential in youth of Serbia out there who deserve much more than their politicians have been giving them for more than a decade now. Serbia can never handle Kosovo even if it was granted today; who cares for the land, there are around two million Albanians who would need the attention of the state. This for example would mean next round Mr.Thaci becomes a prime minister of Serbia, or Mr. Krasniqi a speaker of Serbian Parliament. In ten tears Albanians would start to buy Serbian houses in Kragujevac, Kralevo and maybe Belgrade. Think about that.
Lets just take things easy and let ordinary people in Kosovo do their ordinary lives. They will be capable to do what they really need.
Liri,
Canada

The lie of genocide against an Albanian population in Kosovo was perpetrated to steal Serbia's soul but the world ignores the plight of Serbs in Kosovo!

Quote:
Jasper Joseph is a sixty-four year old native man from Port Hardy, British Columbia. His eyes still fill with tears when he remembers his cousins who were killed with lethal injections by staff at the Nanaimo Indian Hospital, in 1944.

"I was just eight, and they’d shipped us down from the Anglican residential school in Alert Bay to the Nanaimo Indian Hospital, the one run by the United Church. They kept me isolated in a tiny room there for more than three years, like I was a lab rat, feeding me these pills, giving me shots that made me sick. Two of my cousins made a big fuss, screaming and fighting back all the time, so the nurses gave them shots, and they both died right away. It was done to silence them." (November 10, 2000)

Unlike post-war Germans, Canadians have yet to acknowledge, let alone repent from, the genocide that we inflicted on millions of conquered people: the aboriginal men, women and children who were deliberately exterminated by our racially supremacist churches and state.

As early as November, 1907, the Canadian press was acknowledging that the death rate within Indian residential schools exceeded 50% (aee Appendix, "Key Newspaper Articles"). And yet the reality of such a massacre has been wiped clean from public record and consciousness in Canada over the past decades. Small wonder; for that hidden history reveals a system whose aim was to destroy most native people by disease, relocation and outright murder, while "assimilating" a minority of collaborators who were trained to serve the genocidal system.

Source:
http://majic-angel3.tripod.com/spiritualmajic/id29.html

Quote:
From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war.

Source:
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM

SHAME from Guantanamo to Pristina!

Aca the one day they are your friends?? the next day you find everything so you make them look bad???

Until today Japan and Canada were your friends? now suddenly you come with those things the Germans comitted crimes also during WW2 every country did but most countrys have excused for it and paid money for the mistakes?

Serbia did during Balkan wars never excused, during WW2 never excused and under the 90'es have they excused for that?

Kosova has friends our friends are also those that haven't recognised us but with time when they see democracy flower in Kosova they would recognise us?

Countries like Canada and Japan that recognized Kosovo's independence did so after tremendous pressure was exerted on them by the U.S. They were assured by Pres. Bush that he will make it work as per the meeting on NATO's expansion held in Bratislava, Slovakia April 28-30, 2000. I am confident that Bush will make it work as successfully as our invasion of Iraq. Five years later, over 4,000 dead American soldiers, over 35,000 serious combat injuries and by conservative estimates over 80,000 dead Iraqis. And there is no end in sight to this war. Another Bush "success" story.

Bush was on TV today saying we are achieving success in Iraq. This is the same Bush that is telling the world he will arm the Albanians because it "will strengthen the security of the United States and promote world peace." With Bush's incompetent and disastrous handling of U.S. foreign policy, if this is what Bush deems as a "success" then Kosovo will probably be the next Iraq.

The Albanians here use words like, "peace", "good neighborship" and "respect for minorities".
If they are sincere then prove it by doing the following:
1) Remove from office the terrorist who lead your country such as Hashim "the Snake" Thaci. It's disgraceful he is your PM and he should face trial for his War Crimes.
2) Rebuild the churches, monasteries and cemeteries that were destroyed by Albanian "hooligans".
3) If you respect the rule of law then immediately enforce international law. Tell your (sic) government officials they should immediately inspect and monitor Camp Bondsteel for violations of international law. This occupation base was built on Kosovo soil by Halliburton (a Bush contributor) and is being used for the illegal Rendition Program.
Failure to do the 3 things above would reveal the empty and disingenuous dialogue we are continuously subjected to by Albanians here.

And as a point of information: Canada and Japan did not recognize Kosova. Bush did not recognize Kosova. Absolutely no one recognized Kosova. They recognized KOSOVO. The continued use of the incorrect name "Kosova" here by Albanians can only be interpreted as means to inflame Serbians. If people opposed to the illegal independence of Kosovo started using the term "Albanio" you would be offended. In the principle of "good neighborship" use the current correct world-wide accepted name for this country. Which again is Kosovo.

I'm very proud of my country... This will tell Serbia that if they have treated Kosova as we do Quebec then we might not have come to this point. Not that we stop quebecers to separate but they don't want to, because they have everything they want and they are the most influcial people in Canada. Check last 10 priministers of Canada and most of them have been from Quebec. This will tell Serbia that guns will lose your image, your goals and everything else... We also live by the biggest superpower (USA) and we are friends and not enemies. Until Serbia learns how to treat their neighbours , it will never move forward. Learn from Canada and be a go neibour cause that is the best for your people.

Proud to be Canadian!

To Peggy-too: here you are. Everywhere in places where the propaganda is an issue YOU are always in. As far as I remember, in some comments in you-tube you have predicted fully anti-independent Australia and Canada based on the statements of ex ambassador in Yougoslavia James Bisset who is a member of Serbian-American Council for Kosovo. It seems that you predictions were totally NULL as you still continue with you theories without proper argument. By the way what happened with the slogan “ Kosovo je srce Serbija”. Is that important anymore or maybe is more important now that Japan was in WWII axis and Australia and Canada are toys of USA!!!!!

PS. B92 seems to be very "carefully" with a part of comments especially when not posting them.

Thank You Japan!
Thank you Canada!

Canada has made a huge error. This will be used by the Quebecois to gain more concessions out of Federal Government.

Talk about cutting your own throat.
(Niall O'Doherty, 19 March 2008 12:37)

apparently that isn't the case in canada and in the event that quebec were to form it's own state, something tells me that they too would recognize kosove so i don't see how that would benefit serbia.

To 110# Penjack

For your information, is much better to be a colony of US and EU than colony of Serbia. Not only Albanians suffered under Serbian totalitarian regime but the others are still suffering. Because of this, your brothers Montenegrins decided to break the union. What are you expecting more???? Still the mentality over there is the same: Serbia is center of the world and you have forgotten your problems. This kind of behavior is taking you to nowhere. Don’t worry so much for our destiny under EU “colony”.

"Canada has made a huge error. This will be used by the Quebecois to gain more concessions out of Federal Government. Talk about cutting your own throat"

We live in the XXI century and we do not have the same perspective you have in some undeveloped places in Europe about that "nationalist integrity of whatsoever".

croatia, hungary and bulgaria are to announce their recognition today. is anyone keeping track? what will those three bring the tally to in one month's time?

To Stevan, post 77:

"Reality is that there was a chaotic, vicious, messy, civil war..."

What you say in your post no. 77 is not really the truth. How can you call wars like the one in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova as civil wars? In all these cases Yugoslavian Regular Army Forces, which were controlled by Belgrade, were directly engaged in fighting against Croatians, Bosnians (muslims) and against Kosova Albanians. Therefore, no one can say that these were civil wars.
Anyway, thanks to Japan, Canada, Hungary, Croatia and Bulgaria that lined themselves along other countries which recognized Kosova’s Independence.

Thank you, Jason Klein, I know from many partners that most poeple in those countries which "recognize" the puppet-entity, do not welcome this violation of international law by their home-countries.

don´t worry, Serbia will come back and Kosovo is Serbia.

remember UNSC 1244 is very clear on this.

Justice, Truth and Serbia will prevail!

"Not to mention Serbia was threatened by the Amercians, not to oppose the succession of her States."
(Another Canadian Serb, 19 March 2008 19:11)

It looks like you think Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia were her (Serbia's) states. And the funny thing is that in the next phrase you speak about factual literature. The name was Yugoslavia, not United States of Serbia.

""Japan - US rent boys = Enemies of the Serbs.
(Vuk, 18 March 2008 10:58) ""

Well, Vuk, is there a country/peoples whose enemies you're not, except for Russia? You've been coined l'enfant terrible de l'Europe. Get out of that vicious circle and prosper.

To 118# Penjack

You seem to be too much worried about Albania and Kosova. Everyone is free to express her/his opinion but yours is beyond the normality. I don’t think that your „affection“ is honest. Anyway…

I didn’t say you are Serbian or whatever. In your comment there is a huge contradiction.
“Following 9/11 a large majority of Americans do not like Muslims.
Christian nations, the new Crusaders, will now tell what you can and can't do.”

For Albanians the religion is not an important issue. Our relationships are not based on the religion but rather on other values. On one side you tell me the Americans don’t like Muslims on the other side you call Christian nations “new crusader”!! What are you indeed??

If you want to predict the future of the world such as superpowers or about oil, gas resources then I thing you are in the wrong place. As you can see the Albanians themselves over there in Kosova don’t complain being under US & EU “colony” as you call them so let them decide for their future which of course in any case will not be nightmare as you predict it.

We are really getting off topic here. Apologies but I must respond.

"For Albanians the religion is not an important issue. Our relationships are not based on the religion but rather on other values." by Endri, Albania

Albania, where religion is not an important issue, must be the most wonderful place in the world. Pure Nirvana! Albanians are either extremely naive or have tunnel-vision on how they see the world. Unfortunately in the real-world religion plays a major role in events that affects our lives.

(Rhetorical) And what are these Albanian "values" you speak of ?

Two examples of religion in U.S. politics:
Mitt Romney lost his bid in the Republican Primary because of his religion. Barack Hussein Obama is defending his religion and sliding in the polls.

Places in the real-world where religion is involved: Northern Ireland, Israel, Serbia, North Africa, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Turkey, Bin Laden, Dalai Lama, Wahhabism,
Shiite vs. Sunni, Jihad, etc. etc. etc.

Nearly every major leader in the world visits and pays homage to the Pope. If Serbia was a Roman Catholic country the current situation regarding Kosovo would be completely different. Albanians would be spitting on the U.S. and NATO instead of thanking them.

Back on topic:
Japan and Canada did as there ordered by U.S.
Former Canadian PM Chretien said that Canada's recognition of Kosovo was a serious mistake. The domino effect around the world will be disastrous. The action by the Canadian Government has given new impetus to the secessionist movement in Quebec.
Pres. Bush has ordered the State Dept. to immediately start a second round of arm-twisting of countries that have not recognized Kosovo.

In other news: U.S. Rep. Conyers has promised to start impeachment proceedings against Pres. Bush.

To 123 # Penjack

Thank you for your response, here is mine. I think you really lack information substantially when talking about Albanians. We are very proud of the fact that in the context of religion we live in a wonderful place. Unfortunately the religion somewhere is used to negatively affect relationships between peoples but this is not gone happen in Albania. Three religions live in peace and prosperity and in no time in our history, religion has been a key factor which can negatively affect our live. The reason is very simple. We respect each-other/everyone who calls himself Albanian without asking what s/he believe.

There exists a desire of some countries to link up us and identify as Islamic even radicals. They don't like the harmony between the religions. However it has never been a key factor in our relationships with Christian or Muslim countries. As the matter of fact we are fully supported from both sides. The Kosova issue proved it again. Who are the big supporters of Kosova independence!!! A few Muslims and the majority are Christians.

The visits to the Pope are just a sign of respect as a highest authority of Roman Catholic Church. I can not predict what would be the situation if Serbia would be Roman Catholic or even Muslim. What makes you think that Albanians would be spitting in US and NATO?? This sound really very strange!! Do you know that in Albania about 10 % of population is Roman Catholics and 20 % Christian orthodox??

Sorry but your predictions about the future world are too far from reality even ridiculous. By the way, thank you for informing us about the last events in Japan, Canada and USA but I think I can find more reliable sources than you.

As I told you in the previous comment the values for which I am speaking of, are different from religious. Our politic has been always in accordance with the principle of good neighborship, loyalty, peace and peaceful missions' contribution and respect for minorities.
PS. You told me u are an American! I highly doubt it, maybe only your pass is American but your blood not. That is just one presupposition.

Thank you Japan.
I know, I know Princip UK, brumsila, Tom O'Donoghue. "US forced Japan too, right?!"
They are so powerfull that they can twist Japan's, UK's, Germany's etc etc but somehow they can't Cypress...please. More and more countries are realizing that independence of Kosova will sooner or later bring stability and prosperity to ALL Kosova people.
Peace

Thank You Japan!
Kosovo will work for Peace and Stability.
Serbia should not support hooligans and violence from serbian minorities.

Thank you Japan ... and one more unemployed ambassador.

God bless Kosova

Thank you very much Japan.

Thanks Japan.
Another powerfull state.

US succeeded in strong arming. For the moment there are only 28 nations out of 193 who recognized the NATO statelets independence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence#_note-80
Taiwan is not an independent state but a chineese province without international recognition as will be Kosovo.

Thank you Japan!

Good luck Kosovo!

Guys, have you forgotten of the state of Serbia when it declared it’s Independence?

Have you all forgotten why Serbia exists?

Have you all forgotten result of what is the existence of the current state of Serbia?

Nial

Vojvodina is a good example for you to understand what Serbia has tried to do in Kosova. Vojvodina was never Serb land, but Serbs got it from Yugoslavia, now they are sending all the Serb refugees/colonising from Krajina, Kosova and Bosnia .
Hungary can, at the same time, recognise Kosova as Independent and ask for return of Vojvodina.

ZK UK
Stop consoling yourself with those data. See what will happen after the Olympic games in Chinas economy. China economy largest customer is USA. Can you imagine what can happen if this market is in crisis or if US$ stays at current rate, it would mean that Americans can buy their products for cheaper price than Chinese.
You claim that you do not need all these countries to support Serbia but I think that you are bluffing.

Smile

mate, it seems that you are not aware that drug trafficking, prostitution, money laundering etc. is organised by the gangs in the Balkan countries including Serbia at the top of the organisation. Do some professional research my friend.

Thank you Japan

The list of our friends is growing as time goes by.We had 29 recognitions within a month and the list is growing.It has exceeded our wildest expectations.Thank you Japan.

It seems that some people are getting lost on the comments. I don't think it's a matter of if places like Taiwan are members of UN, what's important is that they've expressed the views of recognizing a newly independent state such as Kosova.

It's a real shame what's happening in Mitrovica, at the end of the day politicians from Belgrade aren't going to be living in Kosova, so they should stop interfering and support the Serbs through their special channels that are open under the Ahtisari plan.

Once again, Thank You - Japan!

my dear japanese friends...

but, that means that you won´t participate in the economic advantages that Serbia has to offer...

so much for backing down under US-american pressure..."

I hope you are being ironic jovan, till the day russian economy is counted with US$ that means that serbia is US$ also my friend.
from your rhetoric it sounds as a economical threat to japan, haha

and mister ZK UK, still in a comfortable position to spread propaganda that the Un started abusing their power after the serbians stooped and stoned the vans, un retaliating with teargas, and bombs and aks were fired back, that was yesterday and not in 99, and even now you are trying to use your propaganda mate

Thank you, that's how all the world should do Recognizes Kosovo

thANK YOU JAPAN
god bless you all

Thank you Japan.....

Putin received a letter from Bush, and after that, Putin declared that the biggest problem remaining is the anti-rocket shield, which means that it is possible that there has been reached an agreement regarding recognition of the Kosovo. So, after the Japan recognition, I think that would come a great wave of Asian (Arab and non) recognition.

This is a real big one.
Congratulations Kosova.
Tomorrow it is most likely the turn of Hungary.

Thanks to Japan and its people, they have supported Kosovo from 99`. I am grateful to Japan for your help.
Thank you, may peace prevail in this region.

Thank you Japan for your support and recognition.

Countries that formally recognize Kosova make up 63.77% of the World's Total nominal GDP

Marco Amsterdam are you saying that Cyprus, Romania and Slovakia are more powerfull that Japan??? I dont think it's very realistic that these country that recognize Kosova are being threatend it's their own free will? just like the Dutch did and others? Many of the country have stated they will wait and se but with time they will recognise Kosovo as an independent country? None is forcing them to do so? if that was the case every EU country would recognise it while the so called big 4 have done so and could easilly threaten them?

But those things that countrys bully each other into decision isn't realistic? Many EU country didn't take part in the war agaisnt Irak? And don't critisize the war in Afghanistan that was acctually supported by UN?

Oh no, another unimportant country has decided to recognize K-Independence. Who cares what US, UK, France, Japan.... thinks, It's Slovakia, Russia, Timbuktu we should be worried about.

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Well I dont think it would be so wise for Serbia to start a war in Vojvodina because Hungary is a EU member state as you know and the other EU member states will go help Hungary without any double thoughts? And Serbia will also lose Vojvodina?

And if the Serbs start discriminating the Hungarians then thank good Kosova is independent? Than you will see every country of the world start a mass recognision of Kosova...

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Olypics in Japan? LOL
No comment needed...

If you Serbs have forgotten what happened in Vukovar Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova, the world hasn't. do yourself a favor and accept the reality, appologize to your neighburs.
Thank you Japan.

Peter Sudyka, don't worry, the agreement with Serbia will arrive sooner than many here may think. I really hope the SRS win in the elections: they don't have the excuse of SRS for not doing nothing. And they'll have to run the country, which is different from sitting in the opposition and doing nothing. It's a cool reasoning: Serbia cannot choke Kosovo any more and, with Serbia and Kosovo in this status quo they both are tramping each others' feet. The Russian friends will soon after the elections tell their Serbian friends, they'll have to find out an exit strategy. The Southstream and much more cannot run through an undefined, unstable country. It's the best for everyone, or the win-win solution, as else loved to define it.

Japan - US rent boys = Enemies of the Serbs.

Countries that formaly recognized Kosovo make up 63.77 % of the world's total nominal GDP (data from CIA factbook and worldbank 2007)

“Japan hopes that Kosovo independence will contribute to long-term stability in the region,“ says the ministry in a statement.
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Well done Japan, just after the UN and NATO cause violence against the Serbs, you go ahead and recognise this illegal failed puppet entity.

B92, there are only 28 nations recognising Kosovo. Taiwan is not not a UN recognised state so does not count.

However, as the US continues to arm twist nations into recognition, the overwhelming majority continue to support Serbia.

We have 70 nations confirmed that will NOT recognise or conditionally will NOT (due to UN, EU or Serbian approval) while a total 165 states are on our side with 28 against.

The recognition camp has pretty much stalled now.

Hardly surprising. Japan is a willing and compliant ally of the US and has sent troops to Iraq and Afghanistan to die for Cheney and his cohorts.

Joe, if Hungary recognises Kosovo's illegal UDI, life could get very uncomfortable for the 400,000 Hungarians in Vojvodina. Would Budapest chance that? This is a major opportunity for Hungary to use her leeway in Vojvodina to secure concessions (a direct say in Vojvodina affairs) from Serbia in return for Budapest not recognising Pristina's UDI.

Anyway, wasnt Japan a member of the Axis in WW2? That might help to put some perspective on things.

Thank you very very much Japan!

The rest of the world; keep 'em coming!

Thank You! Merci
Canada

Canada recognizes Kosovo: foreign minister

1 hour ago

OTTAWA (AFP) — Canada on Tuesday recognized Kosovo's independence from Serbia, proclaimed last month, said Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier, prompting Serbia to recall its ambassador in Ottawa.

"Today, we joined the international community and recognized Kosovo as a new state," Bernier told public broadcaster CBC.

Hi again B92,

Let me help you

1 hour ago

OTTAWA (AFP) — Canada on Tuesday recognized Kosovo's independence from Serbia, proclaimed last month, said Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier, prompting Serbia to recall its ambassador in Ottawa.

"Today, we joined the international community and recognized Kosovo as a new state," Bernier told public broadcaster CBC.

Thank You Japan!
Keep 'em coming.
Tomorrow to recognize Kosovo is Croatia.

I hope you are ready to smile m Smile with some numbers: Serbias greatest suporters being Russians who are Occupying 4 Japanese islands to this day. Japans enemy's enemy is their friend.
I am not sure what you had in mind with 94% of all eu drug trades, If that was true and Kosova provided nearly 400million people with drugs, we would be kings of the world man, that would mean we would run our cars on drugs, our electricity by burning drugs and new biochemical fuels could come also from drugs.
Let me tell you something else, from 2 million you give us 94 percent of europe, what about the 10 million serbs? are they just consumers?
By the way b92 the japanese text said "thank you japan"

http://www.sofiaecho.com/article/60kg-of-heroin-and-serbian-drug-trafficker-seized-in-bulgaria/id_26845/catid_66

Today on 18th of March 2008 Ukrainian Special Forces’ officer succumbed to injuries for American interests and Japan succumbed to American pressure, again for the American interests.

I hope that the world will finally open its eyes and see for whose interests they are dying and for whose interests they lose their pride and honour.

The G8 just got blue-er. Japan is a key recognition, it marks almost complete recognition by G8.

Japan rewards ethnic cleansing and KLA gangsterism. How this will contribute to 'stability' anywhere is beyond me. This is the same country that has not apologized for the crimes of its fascist past. No surprise here that they don't care at all about international law and justice.

Long live Serbia. Down with the KLA mafia state. Protect Roma and Serbs from ethnic cleansing and cultural genocide!

Good news from Canada!
Canada recognizes the independence of Kosovo!

cheers, canda just recognize the UDI, Russia is feeling pressure i gues :D

you can add one more to that list because canada has just recognized kosove. how many are we up to now?

Thank you Canada!!!

Cmon B92, you could have given them their own article.

Marco, Amsterdam

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Okay I havent heard that if it was so the world media would inform that but I think more it is the speches to the nation were bush says who is with them or against them? You know in the war of terror? I was and am myself against the war in Irak and maybe not so pro the bush administration? But i agree with him in Afghanistan they were hidding the Al Qaida and the Taliban weren't the most democratical goverment? The basic rights were out of function and the people of Afghanistan needed it?

But you know if a country goverment or so makes a boycott of a country they van be sued and get the loss paid? but if the population desides it then none is responsiible only if it happens by some law or so it's illegal?


P.S Thank you Canada, Merci Canada...

Cool. And best regards to "Another Canadian Serb" - who made me an K-Albanian some days ago in this forum! Okay, your country (as you said) recognised my fake state - as you would say. I am not afraid anymore, at the moment it's a cool feeling! Thanks Canada, thanks Japan.

I don't know why Kosovars are so happy to be independant they have:
NO ELECTRIC POWER
NO INDUSTRY
NO WIDE SCALE AGRICULTURE
...
(Bulldog, 18 March 2008 22:02)

Why you are so worried about Kosovo? You live in Kosovo?
ELECTRIC POWER WE HAVE 24/24
Only 1h per day is missing,BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT 99% of Kosovars have ELECTRIC GENERATORS,There is no great panic!
NO INDUSTRY- Use your brain and think a little who destroyd Industry of Kosovo?
With some help from EU and USA we will be better than some other Balkan Countries,Kosovo have only 2 million people not 8 or 10.
NO WIDE SCALE AGRICULTURE- this is funny,you have to visit this days some agriculture regions and after i want to see how you speak!
As for information this year we dont really need any agriculture imports.Check Export in Serbia to Kosovo and get the results(-50%)in this last Month.
Anyway,THANKS TO CANADA!

“Japan hopes that Kosovo independence will contribute to long-term stability in the region,“ says the ministry in a statement.

So, where is the stability? I cant see it! USA shoudnt interfere in european matters. They should begin to solve their own problems.

I think that Kosovo need at least the countries of the Arab league ..some countries fron central and South America and few from Africa before can say that it has been recognize..
Idon't buy the argument of the Gdp or other economic values..the true is that till now Kosovo has the support of less countries that was expected..
P.S. ridicoulous also(in the other camp ) the argument of losing Serbia as a rich market...Serbia is a poor country all the State that recognize Kosovo can live without "the rich Serbian market " !!!

Countries that formaly recognized Kosovo make up 63.77 % of the world's total nominal GDP

:) and you reckon, that's got some bearing on your dire situation? kosovo is a territory without a status, with deteriorating security situation, and all that will keep investors away for..., well, ever. or until a negotiated settlement. y'all know that anyway. japan for instance won't even invest in serbia, which is a real country with real workforce and infrastructure and yet it's too risky for japan. imagine kosovo then :) or maybe i should say, :(
anyway, they do like to throw couple of 10s or even 100s of 1000s of dollars of aid from time to time. expect that, and be sure to show gratitude.
now, since we talk numbers... percentage and that.
did you know that the cia factbook says, and i quote here, "93.71% of all drug trafficking in europe goes through or originates from kosovo". but like i said numbers should have no bearing on you people, you're good folks :) with a great future :)

Un started abusing their power after the serbians stooped and stoned the vans
(Adriano, 18 March 2008 14:46)

Correct, it was the UN and NATOs fault for an escalation in violence at such a fragile time. The UN is now responsible for the death of one of its policemen and I hope a full investigation takes place. Whoever ordered this violent act needs to be put on trial.

There were negotiations going on between the Serbs and the UN to resolve this peaceful protest and someone saw that as a threat.

You can be sure the Serbs will defend themselves and others in need.

smile: "now, since we talk numbers... percentage and that.
did you know that the cia factbook says, and i quote here, "93.71% of all drug trafficking in europe goes through or originates from kosovo". but like i said numbers should have no bearing on you people,"

Numbers that someone just makes up, of course have no bearing on anyone. Here's the CIA world factbook entry for the country of Kosova:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/kv.html
Your numbers do not figure there.
It's illogical to thing that over 90% of drug trafficing in Europe goes through such a small territory as Kosova, because such a choke point could be easily controlled by Interpol. Kosova is neither a producer nor a consumer of drugs. It borders neither Afghanistan, nor Columbia, nor the rich destinations in EU, so even if some traffic goes through Kosova, it must definitively go through many many other countries before and after.

Hey, B92!

In #58 you edited my first phrase: "Arigato, Japan!". "Arigato" means "Thank you" in Japanese. I really don't understand why you did edit it...

Wait a minute..Canada will never recognize Kosovo, now who said that??

Here is to you Canada....Cheers

O Canada, O Canada:)

I don't understand why our fellow brothers up north have so much animosity against the U.S, yet they watch MTV, ESPN, HBO, CBS, ABC, CNN:)

I wonder when is Spain going to say the same thing!!

I think I read here someday that people were praising Canada as a good, peacful and democratic country. I hope those guys are not going to change their minds about Canada now that it has reconized Kosova/o. Quebec is not going to make a move b.o. this. They had their own referendum three times and it did not pass, that means French people are not quite happy with that option. Quebec has never experinced massive killings as Albanians did from Serbia nine years ago, so it would be very sad for them if they would try to isolate themselves from the rest of other Canadian provincies and territories. But, if this really happens Canada is not going to threten with the use of force. Albanans live in 90 procent of their contry, so they have a right to role themselves. This is a reality and this has been recognized from Canada today.
I think lots of countries are going to follow Canada and Japan and the Kosova/o issue is going to be a closed chapter for less than e year from now, including Serbia as a country that will recognise Kosova/o. The sooner the better. Albanians are the biggest forgivers and what they want is to have peace in their home, to be able to go to bed not thinking about Serbian police who come in the midle of the night and storm your house, just because you had an argument during the day with your best Serbian friend! Albanians still want to go to Belgade either for health services, for business purposes, or just to hang out with their Serbian friends, but at the same time they want to be sound and safe in their homes and this what independnce brings
for them.
Liri,
Canada

"Quebec has never experinced massive killings as Albanians did from Serbia nine years ago, so it would be very sad for them if they would try to isolate themselves from the rest of other Canadian provincies and territories. But, if this really happens Canada is not going to threten with the use of force."

Exactly. More to the point, Kosovar independence doesn't set a new precedent. Rather, as I blogged over at my place
Kosovo became independent following much the same pattern as Bangladesh. In both cases, following worsening human rights abuses against local populatuions by central states and the beginnings of a war of independence, neighbouring powers (NATO in the case of Kosovo, India in the case of Bangladesh) intervened militarily on the minority's behalf, detaching their territories from the control of the central state and making them independent. Eritrean independence follows a similar trajectory, although in that case Eritrea won its war by itself. If Iraqi Kurdistan becomes independent, it would have followed the Bangladesh-Kosovo trajectory.

Note that, in Bangladesh's case, universal recognition came late. It only got into the United Nations in 1974. Part of that was power politicals, as the United States and especially China didn't want to condone India's surgical dissection of a Pakistan that was India's only challenger in the region. It even came close to some sort of armed conflict: Kissinger sent an American aircraft carrier group to monitor the Indians, the Soviets sent a nuclear submarine to monitor the Americans. For all that, in the December 1971-May 1972 period, seventy countries recognized Bangladesh.

Now let's look at Kosovo. Thirty countries which have recognized Kosovo so far in the space of a month--not bad compared to Bangladesh, you'd have to admit. A Russian military deployment to Kosovo is unlikely, as Lavrov has already specifrically excluded it. Serbia is relatively isolated in the region--the Radicals' implicit threats to ethnic Hungarians are spectacularly stupid--and is surrounded by the European Union and EU aspirant countries, most of which are following the line of the major powers. Many countries in the Islamic world may be ready to recognize Kosovo. Other countries are going to take longer, true, but if late Maoist China could be convinced to accept the reality on the ground after a few years, why not Brazil, or modern China, or even Russia?

Kosovo is relevant to secessionism inasmuch as secessions triggered by humanitarian outrages and enforced by military interventions have happened and have eventually been endorsed. This, as others have noted, isn't a very likely scenario for Québec, or Scotland, or Catalonia, or the other secessionist issues in the developed world. The precedent that pstates can break up has been well-established for centuries, similarly that breakaway bits of existing states can separate with the consent of the parent state. There's just a few exceptions and Kosovo happens to fit the paradigm to a T.

This is a big one. Japan is second only to the States in terms of economic size, so technically Kosovo has support from the largest economies of the world (US, Japan and most of EU), if it had Russia and China then there would be no problem.

However this still does not change the fact that an agreement with Serbia has not been reached and that there will more than likely not be stability in the region until some sort of compromize is reached. I really think they need to go back to the negotiating table and try again, because even the economic might of the US, EU and Japan is not enough to ensure that there will be long-term stability in the region. Give peace a chance!

Is seems that the Japanese foreign minister is also one of George W. Bush's lapdogs.

Do albans really think this is going to bring stability?? By stealing our land by force? This is going to be exactly the opposite. albanians - you can even get mars to recognize your fake country. It doesn't matter because Serbia will never bow down to the occupying forces. Serbia is the rightful owner of KiM, end of story.

Marco

Japan is recognizing a country, not going to war with America.

As someone who lives in the States, I can guarantee you the Americans would not boycott Japanese products over Kosovo? Why?

1. They're the best cars and electronics in town.
2. All Japanese carmakers make their cars in factories located in the United States, in other words...made by Americans.

Tom, Niall, Brian

I've come to accept your hostility towards Albanians, even though I don't quite understand it.

Having said that, your comments on this particular topic are just downright petty.

'Your numbers do not figure there.'

anyway i don't want to keep you researching huge databases sweating to confirm or deny my carefully-thought-of number :) guilty as charged, i was fooling around, you guys. cia's data on kosovo drug trade is company info, they dont share it :)
and, i KNEW if i put a decimal you guys would buy it :)) well, enough to check.
why is that? well, it looks credible, dont it. it just looks possible, based on all we all know about kosovo's drug trade.
the real figure is 95.87%, btw.

as for kosovo's uniqueness..
the only unique thing about you albanians in our serb province of kosovo, compared to other terror/secession groups in other places, is that you're up against us. that's right. 99.99% of the world's gdp, the biggest military might in the history of man, all mobbing against serbia this small european country, with no real leadership right now, but tell me, how's that independence thing coming along? when are un, nato, eu... mup :) leaving exactly? how's that territorial integrity bummer standing? is there a chill, is anything freezing? how's un membership? how's investment? how's the future :)

Everytime the violence or radicalization is initiated in Serbia, another country recognizes Kosova. I hope that the radicals win in Serbia, then even those few that haven't agreed to recognition yet won't have any choice but to do so.

By the way, there was never any doubt about Canada and Japan.
Thank you.

Thank you JAPAN,
Thank you CANADA,

"Anyway, wasnt Japan a member of the Axis in WW2? That might help to put some perspective on things."
(Niall O'Doherty, 18 March 2008 15:43)

(Ironic) Good perspective Niall O'Doherty...

"I wonder when is Spain going to say the same thing!!"
(Francis, 18 March 2008 22:38)

I guess if or when peaceful Serbs kill some other UN or KFOR personnel. Hope for KFOR and UN and everybody that it doesn't happen.
Or when the Nikolic wins. Because looking from the comments and perspectives here, he will win.
Or when other MUP officers are discovered stirring up things in Kosovo.

I am proud of you CANADA

Thank you very much/ merci beaucoup Canada!

I like how Albanian camp divides world to important and unimportant countries, to most powerfull and those unaccountable, to wealthiest and miserables...
it all shows what's really matter to them

On account of Japan they used to be a colonial power waging wars far away from their land.
They are just back to the club again.
To have one of the most conservative, traditionalistic and nationalistic country in the world for an illegal recognition is not a great deal.

Canada, shame on you!

To BULDOG; As far as we are NOT under serbi's regime, we are happy to live what you say with no power, economy, etc.
We've got freedom, that's what matter.
Thank you Canada!

The Parti Quebecois (separatist party from Quebec) will argue that Kosovo is not a unique case and will push for an independent Quebec. Vive Quebec!
(Marco, Amsterdam, 18 March 2008 22:21)

Maybe Quebec separatists needs some support from some successful specialists on Balkan peninsula? :)

Sorry for behaving a little bit more polemic - but do you really think, the government of Canada would prepare such a decision like a state with - let's say - less than one decade experience in democracy?

Spain had elections 10 days ago - let's see, how the re-elected government will decide, when Kosovo is on the agenda.

I'm very proud of my country... This will tell Serbia that if they have treated Kosova as we do Quebec then we might not have come to this point. Not that we stop quebecers to separate but they don't want to, because they have everything they want and they are the most influcial people in Canada. Check last 10 priministers of Canada and most of them have been from Quebec. This will tell Serbia that guns will lose your image, your goals and everything else... We also live by the biggest superpower (USA) and we are friends and not enemies. Until Serbia learns how to treat their neighbours , it will never move forward. Learn from Canada and be a go neibour cause that is the best for your people.

Proud to be Canadian!

To Peggy-too: here you are. Everywhere in places where the propaganda is an issue YOU are always in. As far as I remember, in some comments in you-tube you have predicted fully anti-independent Australia and Canada based on the statements of ex ambassador in Yougoslavia James Bisset who is a member of Serbian-American Council for Kosovo. It seems that you predictions were totally NULL as you still continue with you theories without proper argument. By the way what happened with the slogan “ Kosovo je srce Serbija”. Is that important anymore or maybe is more important now that Japan was in WWII axis and Australia and Canada are toys of USA!!!!!

PS. B92 seems to be very "carefully" with a part of comments especially when not posting them.

Thank You Japan!
Thank you Canada!

THANK YOU CANADA! So proud to be Canadian.

Aca the one day they are your friends?? the next day you find everything so you make them look bad???

Until today Japan and Canada were your friends? now suddenly you come with those things the Germans comitted crimes also during WW2 every country did but most countrys have excused for it and paid money for the mistakes?

Serbia did during Balkan wars never excused, during WW2 never excused and under the 90'es have they excused for that?

Kosova has friends our friends are also those that haven't recognised us but with time when they see democracy flower in Kosova they would recognise us?

croatia, hungary and bulgaria are to announce their recognition today. is anyone keeping track? what will those three bring the tally to in one month's time?

Canada has made a huge error. This will be used by the Quebecois to gain more concessions out of Federal Government.

Talk about cutting your own throat.
(Niall O'Doherty, 19 March 2008 12:37)

apparently that isn't the case in canada and in the event that quebec were to form it's own state, something tells me that they too would recognize kosove so i don't see how that would benefit serbia.

To Stevan, post 77:

"Reality is that there was a chaotic, vicious, messy, civil war..."

What you say in your post no. 77 is not really the truth. How can you call wars like the one in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova as civil wars? In all these cases Yugoslavian Regular Army Forces, which were controlled by Belgrade, were directly engaged in fighting against Croatians, Bosnians (muslims) and against Kosova Albanians. Therefore, no one can say that these were civil wars.
Anyway, thanks to Japan, Canada, Hungary, Croatia and Bulgaria that lined themselves along other countries which recognized Kosova’s Independence.

That's big. No other way to slice it.

They said some time ago that they'll pospone the recognision until Japan is convinced Kosovo is a safe place for all it's residents.
There you go spot on Japan for the timing.
Another hand twisting or alike.

my dear japanese friends...

but, that means that you won´t participate in the economic advantages that Serbia has to offer...

so much for backing down under US-american pressure...

This is a big one. Japan is second only to the States in terms of economic size.
(Peter Sudyka, 18 March 2008 10:47)
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Peter, I think you need to update your economic knowledge. China is in fact the second largest economy and is expected to overtake the US in the coming years.

Japan's GDP is $4.3 trillion while China's is over $7 trillion GDP. Remember also that the economies of the G7 are failing just like the status of this illegal puppet entity. They go hand in hand.

7 trillion? The last stats I had were from 2006, they say that PRC is worth over 2 trillion
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Peter, Over $7 Trillion, that's what it says on the CIA website.

"Liri, is this a joke or what? There are not many folks in Europe aside from Albanians that are still practicing blood feuds.”
Steve

Your links have nothing to do with the situation in Kosovo today so do not try to twist the facts. The crime rate in Prishtina is one of the lowest amongst European countries fore sure. I witnessed myself hundreds of cases that Albanians in Kosovo have forgiven others, but they want criminals to get punished and that is the matter of the law. So not any killer can go and be forgiven in Kosovo regardless the nationality they belong to. Forgiveness means what Albanian politicians have done recently, adopting Ahtisari’s Plan which guarantees Serbian minority all the rights that Albanians have and, in addition to that, it recognizes their right to have spiritual, cultural, medical, economical and all other kinds of relations with Serbia. Albanians seem to be really commited to convey their pledge to international Community about integration of Serbs in Kosovo institutions regardless of nonsense moves coming from Belgrade. So it is the right time for you to contribute to your counterparts in Kosovo with clear messages and honest views, because SRS is not going to solve any of their problems; they would just add one more problem perhaps. What needs to be done? Serbs in Kosovo must be told that reality of independence is not going to change so they can start with making their minds up on what is best for them. Up to date they have been betrayed by their politicians who did not let them take part in Parliament, in Government, in Kosovo Police etc promising integration of Kosovo into Serbia! It is time for real Serbian politicians, or Serbian heroes I would say, who would dare to admit that all what has been done by Serbian politics in terms of Kosovo so far, is just a failure and, to not encourage them for some sort of parallelism in Kosovo, because it is not likely to work. Get things straight in a path, since there is lot of potential in youth of Serbia out there who deserve much more than their politicians have been giving them for more than a decade now. Serbia can never handle Kosovo even if it was granted today; who cares for the land, there are around two million Albanians who would need the attention of the state. This for example would mean next round Mr.Thaci becomes a prime minister of Serbia, or Mr. Krasniqi a speaker of Serbian Parliament. In ten tears Albanians would start to buy Serbian houses in Kragujevac, Kralevo and maybe Belgrade. Think about that.
Lets just take things easy and let ordinary people in Kosovo do their ordinary lives. They will be capable to do what they really need.
Liri,
Canada

"Not to mention Serbia was threatened by the Amercians, not to oppose the succession of her States."
(Another Canadian Serb, 19 March 2008 19:11)

It looks like you think Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia were her (Serbia's) states. And the funny thing is that in the next phrase you speak about factual literature. The name was Yugoslavia, not United States of Serbia.

""Japan - US rent boys = Enemies of the Serbs.
(Vuk, 18 March 2008 10:58) ""

Well, Vuk, is there a country/peoples whose enemies you're not, except for Russia? You've been coined l'enfant terrible de l'Europe. Get out of that vicious circle and prosper.

To 118# Penjack

You seem to be too much worried about Albania and Kosova. Everyone is free to express her/his opinion but yours is beyond the normality. I don’t think that your „affection“ is honest. Anyway…

I didn’t say you are Serbian or whatever. In your comment there is a huge contradiction.
“Following 9/11 a large majority of Americans do not like Muslims.
Christian nations, the new Crusaders, will now tell what you can and can't do.”

For Albanians the religion is not an important issue. Our relationships are not based on the religion but rather on other values. On one side you tell me the Americans don’t like Muslims on the other side you call Christian nations “new crusader”!! What are you indeed??

If you want to predict the future of the world such as superpowers or about oil, gas resources then I thing you are in the wrong place. As you can see the Albanians themselves over there in Kosova don’t complain being under US & EU “colony” as you call them so let them decide for their future which of course in any case will not be nightmare as you predict it.

Today marks the birth of the spineless Samurai. Once a proud and mighty name now reduced to nothing more than a toy on strings for America.

Thank you Japan.
I know, I know Princip UK, brumsila, Tom O'Donoghue. "US forced Japan too, right?!"
They are so powerfull that they can twist Japan's, UK's, Germany's etc etc but somehow they can't Cypress...please. More and more countries are realizing that independence of Kosova will sooner or later bring stability and prosperity to ALL Kosova people.
Peace
(arben, 18 March 2008 09:33)

Well Arben,

When the USA and UK went to war in Iraq they did pressure Holland to join them. The USA said, and this was in all the Dutch newspapers, that not taking part in the Iraq war would cause serious damage to the trade relations between the USA and Holland (and so Holland sent troups to Iraq). Therefore, it is not farfetched to assume that some countries recognized Kosovo merely to please emperor George W. Bush.

ZK UK

7 trillion? The last stats I had were from 2006, they say that PRC is worth over 2 trillion, it's impossible that they have almost quadrupelled in the last two years. I think you have mixed something up, China is 4th in the world (after USA, Japan and Germany). Still a massive power, nonetheless. Then again, I got my info from Wikipedia, so who knows?

Marco

I know what you mean. Poland was pressured into Iraq, Afghanistan and most recently with this missile shield. Kosovo recognition was also achieved through US and particularly German pressure. I think it's because the Netherlands are a very strong economy and Poland is one of the largest EU states, I don't know.

Olf wrote: China economy largest customer is USA. Can you imagine what can happen if this market is in crisis or if US$ stays at current rate, it would mean that Americans can buy their products for cheaper price than Chinese.
You claim that you do not need all these countries to support Serbia but I think that you are bluffing.
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Now the day the US can make goods cheaper than China is the day it enters the third world economy. I have been saying all along that the Western economies are in rapid decline. The East will continue to rise and support itself.

As for support of countries, just China and Russia are sufficient to keep Kosovo out of the UN and to keep it an illegal-quasi-failed-puppet entity. However, I very much welcome the support of the other 163 states. So with a bit of arm twisting it may shrink a little but the overwhelming majority will continue to support Serbia. What more can be said?

Marco when it comes to boycotting those things it's only the populations that can do that you have the international court that can go in and look at the case if a country boycots another? Even the Bush administration isen't that stupid not to know that they will be sued to pay in lost income to Japan?

Since i'm from Denmark I can mention the cartoon crisis where lots of arabic/muslim countrys wanted to boycott Denmark but the danish goverment where calm since it could get its money back?

And since you use so much time making Americans look stupid they would even know that Japan didn't recognize Kosova against US and A's will??? They would first ask what is Japan? didn't we destroy it during WW2???

"Nial

Vojvodina is a good example for you to understand what Serbia has tried to do in Kosova. Vojvodina was never Serb land, but Serbs got it from Yugoslavia, now they are sending all the Serb refugees/colonising from Krajina, Kosova and Bosnia .
Hungary can, at the same time, recognise Kosova as Independent and ask for return of Vojvodina. - Olf"

Olf my German friend,

When was the last time you were in Vojvodina. I have ben there many times and Vojvodina is a perfect example of peace and harmony among the many different ethnic groups. On the streets of Novi Sad you will see ethnic Slovak, Hungarian and Croatian policeman. The Novi Sad City Council which is controlled by the Radicals conducts its business in nearly a dozen different languages.

The Serb refugees were driven out of their homes in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosmet simply on the basis of their ethnicity. Where else were they go to? Mars?

The Radicals have warned that Hungary's recognition of KiM UDI could ignite ethnic tensions between the ethnic groups. Belgrade must do all it can to face down the extremists and the purveyors of false propaganda who blacken her name including people like you Olf.

Are you planning to visit Novi sad or Vojvodina any time soon. You will be glad to know that 1) Vojvodina whether you like it or not is a constituent part of Serbia and 2) Despite what Budapest thinks, its in position to change Vojvodina's status.

NOW i will never regret that i came to Canada. THANK YOU JAPAN, THANK YOU CANADA

Ahmed wrote. The list of our friends is growing as time goes by.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but these countries are not your friends. They don't have friends as they clearly have proved that. In the past these countries were allies with the Serbs and see how they are capable of stabbing their allies in the back. What makes you think they are your friends?

#56 Kushtrimi wrote. If you Serbs have forgotten what happened in Vukovar, Bosnia and Kosova, the world hasn't.

No the Serbs have not forgotten the crimes dones against them in those places and neve will. They are still fighting to have crimes being done to them even today to stop.

For your information a lot that has come out of those regions during the war was propaganda. Serbs were very much victims then as they are now.

Justice will prevail and Serbia will learn a very important lesson, which is don't ever trust the US, UK or Germany as they will always stab you in the back.

Germany was never a friend of Serbia, but the others are a huge stab in the back and a warped thank you for sacrifices during the two world wars.

Penjack,
i just want to thank you for your posting because it is a breath of fresh air.

Kosovo is Serbian!

I am shocked with the decision made my my home country of CANADA today. I didn't realize how many enenies Serbia has. I am quite certain that the citiizens of Serbia proper will vote and against EU integration on May 11, 2008. Serbia may as well keep it's distance from the recognizing countries and try to rebuild itself with countries that respect it's National Identity and her contributions to society.

“….refugees/colonising from Krajina, Kosova and Bosnia …. “

Olf, you turned reality upside down, you are blaming the victim. In total, one million Serb refuges are expelled from their ancestors homes, where they lived for centuries, buy Croatian, Bosnian Muslim and Kosovo Albanian extremists. They escaped to Serbia. Serbian authorities didn’t colonize them, they gave them refuge and these people can settle anywhere on the territory of Serbia, just as any other citizen. Most of them got Serb citizenship. Help centers for refugees were spread through out the country, although refugees tended to concentrate in Vojvodina, the biggest agricultural province in Serbia, where food and some temporary work on the land is relatively easy to come by. (Most of these people lost everything and they were really on the existential minimum).

Kushtrimi,

“… what happened in …. Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova, the world hasn't. do yourself a favor and accept the reality, appologize to your neighburs… “

Reality is that there was a chaotic, vicious, messy, civil war, in big part prepared, and loosely controlled by a couple of extern powers. Warring parties shown little respect for the rules of the war. Lot of civilians died. Extreme nationalists in the Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, expelled Serb minority and formed almost completely mono – ethnic states. Serbia is most multi cultural of all the states of ex – YU. Number of minorities didn’t significantly change before, during and after the war. Serbia has a biggest number of refugees of all the countries on European continent.

If we won’t reconciliation, ALL parties have to come to terms with their wrong doings. Responsible for the crimes should be punished according to the universal law, same for the all parties. Truth have to be told. Everyone to accept his part of the guilt. Refugees have to be compensated somehow and provided with a means for normal existence. They must return to their homes.

Just demonizing Serbs and victimizing all others, won’t do it.

To 110# Penjack

For your information, is much better to be a colony of US and EU than colony of Serbia. Not only Albanians suffered under Serbian totalitarian regime but the others are still suffering. Because of this, your brothers Montenegrins decided to break the union. What are you expecting more???? Still the mentality over there is the same: Serbia is center of the world and you have forgotten your problems. This kind of behavior is taking you to nowhere. Don’t worry so much for our destiny under EU “colony”.

"Canada has made a huge error. This will be used by the Quebecois to gain more concessions out of Federal Government. Talk about cutting your own throat"

We live in the XXI century and we do not have the same perspective you have in some undeveloped places in Europe about that "nationalist integrity of whatsoever".

History recognizes Pearl Harbor.