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Monday, 17.03.2008.

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Samardžić: Serbia to seek int'l probe

Kosovo Minister Slobodan Samardžić has denounced the conduct of UNMIK in Kosovska Mitrovica today.

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rolerkoster

pre 16 godina

Mr. Samardzic thought, he's going to become a Serbian hero by walking inside the justice building and start there to negotiate in favor of the people inside. PROTECTING the Serbian "justice workers" with his own body, ready to become a victim of international law and order ... just imagine this brave man handcuffed and brought to a jail in Pristina later. What a show!

What was this hero doing on weekend? Watching TV? Anyway, he missed the chance of his life - and now he needs someone for to blame for this. Let's see, what kind of minsister he is going to be after the elections ...

Kujon

pre 16 godina

""We’ll offer resistance as people, as a state, as Christians, we have to reach an agreement and protest peacefully""

I am happy you are Christians, but this kind of talk leads one to think it is a relegious conflict an dit is not in my mind.

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

If the KFOR cant guarantee serbs safety in Northern Kosovo, maybe SAJ can? Then they will see some real opponents, not some civil unarmed justice workers...

Stevan

pre 16 godina

“… slavic people were allways violent,especially agains poor albanians which had never protection in last 100 years…”

Antti, you can sell these fearry tales of peaceful, non violent Albanians to Westerners who doesn’t have a clue about the Balkans, but this is Serb forum, with a lots of people from the Balkans who know you very well.

I would not bring it myself but I can't leave such claims so far removed from the reality un answered.

Truth is, Albanian culture is very, how should I say, old fashioned, traditional, extremely violent, clan based society. All Albanian man are trained too skillfully use fire arms from an early age. Every one is armed and fire arms are frequently used for all sorts of disputes. Blood revenge, (gjakmarrja), according to the ancient social code of Leke Dukagjinit from the XV century, is still practiced.
http://iwpr.net/?p=bcr&s=f&o=158066&apc_state=henibcr2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4273020.stm
http://meero.worldvision.org/news_article.php?newsID=527
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1aGqtBPLOs
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUAwa6LbCU

lazer, nyc, usa

pre 16 godina

After the damage is already done, the Serbian nationalist ministers of dss have the nerve to call on int'l community probe???
The KFOR forces are the int'l community forces, in Europe.
Samardzic should not only be denied entrance in Kosovo but if he comes there, he should be arrested for inflaming this lawlessness.
IT IS OVER guys, NO MORE.
Nothing will change Kosovo's status, nothing. That Independence is IRREVERSIBLE.
Take my words for it.
There will be no anarchy that you, Serbs, are so used to commit with orders from "above".

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

RE: NATO and the "MOB"

Nato has the audacity in their own statements to call judges a "mob".

The Serbs and the civilized world knows who the "thugs" and "mob" really is and its the KLA terrorists who are giving orders to Ruecker and his NATO gang.

Marco, Amsterdam

pre 16 godina

I feel sorry for the soldiers from the Ukraine, who were ordered by Larry Rossin (an American) and Xavier Bout de Marnhac (a Frenchman born in Germany) to storm a court house and arrest unarmed civilians. Why did Rossin and Bout de Marnhac not send in American or French soldiers? Why let these poor Ukrainian soldiers, as a kind of Légion étrangère (French Foreign Legion), do the dirty work?

EA

pre 16 godina

"This (clash) could have been avoided, but someone needed it to happen."

Again blaming the other.....))

What is going on with these Serbian leaders that now one seem to understand or wanting to understand them?))) Only Russia is showing signs of understanding...)

Gojko

pre 16 godina

Who gave the orders to UNMIK to run over the Serbs in the courthouse? Correct Kosovo Albanians. They are getting nervous and know Kosov"a" will not exist.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Uli,

Exactly all medias report that civilians in courthouse were unarmed and they did not use any force, they did not resist while UNMIK police was arresting them. If you have other source, please do not hesitate and share it with us, send a link. And yes, let it be in English, please.

Btw, I think b92 reports very objectively, it is not biased media

KS

pre 16 godina

Just yesterday there was publishings in B92 saying they had reached absolutely no agreement.

This guy preaches violence and his attempt to skew the international community (UN + KFOR) is childish. Grow up, no one listening to your lies.

uli

pre 16 godina

Bmrusila. Your serb media is not a good source of information. If you want bias information of what happen, im not asking you to read albanian media but read some foreign media from a bias country. Those people that occupied the court building might be innocent but they had guys and arms and they attacked Kfor when Kfor tried to get in the bulding. Kfor did not even shoot back at them , look what happen today, all Kfor tanks in fire. Those innocent people. What a hypocrisy. You are wrong brusila. Stop eating the same soup everyday. Read some bias articles thats all im asking.

Premtim Ipshi

pre 16 godina

The Serbian government must not be allowed to keep playing "cat and mouse" with the international community and Kosova's government legal structures and institutions in any part of Kosova.The violence commited by serbian demonstrators and infiltrated security structures from Belgrade in Mitrovica is unacceptabble and unjustified.
No minister or Serbian goverment offical should be allowed to enter Kosova for as long as they are the ones that want conflict and violence in our teritory.
U should know and u know it pretty good mr.Samardzic why would they wait for you to get in Mitrovica and "solve" court house problem because-WHO ARE U TO WAIT FOR??!!It would never be solved and we dont want you to have authority here,and u will never have that.
There was no provocations from KFOR and neither from UN police officers.Its you and your bosses up north that want more and more violence in Republic of Kosova.According to current dominant thinking, the primary unit for structures and for the organisation and structuring of civil power is the state.

Antti

pre 16 godina

this all planed by serbs,the idea to separate mitrovica from kosovo.All those trouble comes from belgrade.But serbs have to understnd,that kosovo cant be shared.and the kosovo serbs have to agree live in a independent state,and leave the violence,cuze the slavic people were allways violent,especially agains poor albanians which had never protection in last 100 years

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Brave UNMIK and brave KFOR! They are all so brave when dealing with unarmed civilians, otherwise, when there is a real violence they are like chickens. I guess this was good opportunity for them to make some exercise over unarmed civilians as they were dealing with some real terrorists.

However, I don’t think it will end up like this. Courthouse will be Serbian and there will be Serbian flag!

I thank Mr Samardzic for being there and addressing to people, trying to explain people what is going on. I thank him for being active and brave to stand by his own people.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Brave UNMIK and brave KFOR! They are all so brave when dealing with unarmed civilians, otherwise, when there is a real violence they are like chickens. I guess this was good opportunity for them to make some exercise over unarmed civilians as they were dealing with some real terrorists.

However, I don’t think it will end up like this. Courthouse will be Serbian and there will be Serbian flag!

I thank Mr Samardzic for being there and addressing to people, trying to explain people what is going on. I thank him for being active and brave to stand by his own people.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Uli,

Exactly all medias report that civilians in courthouse were unarmed and they did not use any force, they did not resist while UNMIK police was arresting them. If you have other source, please do not hesitate and share it with us, send a link. And yes, let it be in English, please.

Btw, I think b92 reports very objectively, it is not biased media

Gojko

pre 16 godina

Who gave the orders to UNMIK to run over the Serbs in the courthouse? Correct Kosovo Albanians. They are getting nervous and know Kosov"a" will not exist.

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

RE: NATO and the "MOB"

Nato has the audacity in their own statements to call judges a "mob".

The Serbs and the civilized world knows who the "thugs" and "mob" really is and its the KLA terrorists who are giving orders to Ruecker and his NATO gang.

Marco, Amsterdam

pre 16 godina

I feel sorry for the soldiers from the Ukraine, who were ordered by Larry Rossin (an American) and Xavier Bout de Marnhac (a Frenchman born in Germany) to storm a court house and arrest unarmed civilians. Why did Rossin and Bout de Marnhac not send in American or French soldiers? Why let these poor Ukrainian soldiers, as a kind of Légion étrangère (French Foreign Legion), do the dirty work?

Antti

pre 16 godina

this all planed by serbs,the idea to separate mitrovica from kosovo.All those trouble comes from belgrade.But serbs have to understnd,that kosovo cant be shared.and the kosovo serbs have to agree live in a independent state,and leave the violence,cuze the slavic people were allways violent,especially agains poor albanians which had never protection in last 100 years

Premtim Ipshi

pre 16 godina

The Serbian government must not be allowed to keep playing "cat and mouse" with the international community and Kosova's government legal structures and institutions in any part of Kosova.The violence commited by serbian demonstrators and infiltrated security structures from Belgrade in Mitrovica is unacceptabble and unjustified.
No minister or Serbian goverment offical should be allowed to enter Kosova for as long as they are the ones that want conflict and violence in our teritory.
U should know and u know it pretty good mr.Samardzic why would they wait for you to get in Mitrovica and "solve" court house problem because-WHO ARE U TO WAIT FOR??!!It would never be solved and we dont want you to have authority here,and u will never have that.
There was no provocations from KFOR and neither from UN police officers.Its you and your bosses up north that want more and more violence in Republic of Kosova.According to current dominant thinking, the primary unit for structures and for the organisation and structuring of civil power is the state.

uli

pre 16 godina

Bmrusila. Your serb media is not a good source of information. If you want bias information of what happen, im not asking you to read albanian media but read some foreign media from a bias country. Those people that occupied the court building might be innocent but they had guys and arms and they attacked Kfor when Kfor tried to get in the bulding. Kfor did not even shoot back at them , look what happen today, all Kfor tanks in fire. Those innocent people. What a hypocrisy. You are wrong brusila. Stop eating the same soup everyday. Read some bias articles thats all im asking.

Stevan

pre 16 godina

“… slavic people were allways violent,especially agains poor albanians which had never protection in last 100 years…”

Antti, you can sell these fearry tales of peaceful, non violent Albanians to Westerners who doesn’t have a clue about the Balkans, but this is Serb forum, with a lots of people from the Balkans who know you very well.

I would not bring it myself but I can't leave such claims so far removed from the reality un answered.

Truth is, Albanian culture is very, how should I say, old fashioned, traditional, extremely violent, clan based society. All Albanian man are trained too skillfully use fire arms from an early age. Every one is armed and fire arms are frequently used for all sorts of disputes. Blood revenge, (gjakmarrja), according to the ancient social code of Leke Dukagjinit from the XV century, is still practiced.
http://iwpr.net/?p=bcr&s=f&o=158066&apc_state=henibcr2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4273020.stm
http://meero.worldvision.org/news_article.php?newsID=527
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1aGqtBPLOs
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUAwa6LbCU

KS

pre 16 godina

Just yesterday there was publishings in B92 saying they had reached absolutely no agreement.

This guy preaches violence and his attempt to skew the international community (UN + KFOR) is childish. Grow up, no one listening to your lies.

EA

pre 16 godina

"This (clash) could have been avoided, but someone needed it to happen."

Again blaming the other.....))

What is going on with these Serbian leaders that now one seem to understand or wanting to understand them?))) Only Russia is showing signs of understanding...)

lazer, nyc, usa

pre 16 godina

After the damage is already done, the Serbian nationalist ministers of dss have the nerve to call on int'l community probe???
The KFOR forces are the int'l community forces, in Europe.
Samardzic should not only be denied entrance in Kosovo but if he comes there, he should be arrested for inflaming this lawlessness.
IT IS OVER guys, NO MORE.
Nothing will change Kosovo's status, nothing. That Independence is IRREVERSIBLE.
Take my words for it.
There will be no anarchy that you, Serbs, are so used to commit with orders from "above".

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

If the KFOR cant guarantee serbs safety in Northern Kosovo, maybe SAJ can? Then they will see some real opponents, not some civil unarmed justice workers...

Kujon

pre 16 godina

""We’ll offer resistance as people, as a state, as Christians, we have to reach an agreement and protest peacefully""

I am happy you are Christians, but this kind of talk leads one to think it is a relegious conflict an dit is not in my mind.

rolerkoster

pre 16 godina

Mr. Samardzic thought, he's going to become a Serbian hero by walking inside the justice building and start there to negotiate in favor of the people inside. PROTECTING the Serbian "justice workers" with his own body, ready to become a victim of international law and order ... just imagine this brave man handcuffed and brought to a jail in Pristina later. What a show!

What was this hero doing on weekend? Watching TV? Anyway, he missed the chance of his life - and now he needs someone for to blame for this. Let's see, what kind of minsister he is going to be after the elections ...

Antti

pre 16 godina

this all planed by serbs,the idea to separate mitrovica from kosovo.All those trouble comes from belgrade.But serbs have to understnd,that kosovo cant be shared.and the kosovo serbs have to agree live in a independent state,and leave the violence,cuze the slavic people were allways violent,especially agains poor albanians which had never protection in last 100 years

Premtim Ipshi

pre 16 godina

The Serbian government must not be allowed to keep playing "cat and mouse" with the international community and Kosova's government legal structures and institutions in any part of Kosova.The violence commited by serbian demonstrators and infiltrated security structures from Belgrade in Mitrovica is unacceptabble and unjustified.
No minister or Serbian goverment offical should be allowed to enter Kosova for as long as they are the ones that want conflict and violence in our teritory.
U should know and u know it pretty good mr.Samardzic why would they wait for you to get in Mitrovica and "solve" court house problem because-WHO ARE U TO WAIT FOR??!!It would never be solved and we dont want you to have authority here,and u will never have that.
There was no provocations from KFOR and neither from UN police officers.Its you and your bosses up north that want more and more violence in Republic of Kosova.According to current dominant thinking, the primary unit for structures and for the organisation and structuring of civil power is the state.

uli

pre 16 godina

Bmrusila. Your serb media is not a good source of information. If you want bias information of what happen, im not asking you to read albanian media but read some foreign media from a bias country. Those people that occupied the court building might be innocent but they had guys and arms and they attacked Kfor when Kfor tried to get in the bulding. Kfor did not even shoot back at them , look what happen today, all Kfor tanks in fire. Those innocent people. What a hypocrisy. You are wrong brusila. Stop eating the same soup everyday. Read some bias articles thats all im asking.

EA

pre 16 godina

"This (clash) could have been avoided, but someone needed it to happen."

Again blaming the other.....))

What is going on with these Serbian leaders that now one seem to understand or wanting to understand them?))) Only Russia is showing signs of understanding...)

KS

pre 16 godina

Just yesterday there was publishings in B92 saying they had reached absolutely no agreement.

This guy preaches violence and his attempt to skew the international community (UN + KFOR) is childish. Grow up, no one listening to your lies.

lazer, nyc, usa

pre 16 godina

After the damage is already done, the Serbian nationalist ministers of dss have the nerve to call on int'l community probe???
The KFOR forces are the int'l community forces, in Europe.
Samardzic should not only be denied entrance in Kosovo but if he comes there, he should be arrested for inflaming this lawlessness.
IT IS OVER guys, NO MORE.
Nothing will change Kosovo's status, nothing. That Independence is IRREVERSIBLE.
Take my words for it.
There will be no anarchy that you, Serbs, are so used to commit with orders from "above".

Gojko

pre 16 godina

Who gave the orders to UNMIK to run over the Serbs in the courthouse? Correct Kosovo Albanians. They are getting nervous and know Kosov"a" will not exist.

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

RE: NATO and the "MOB"

Nato has the audacity in their own statements to call judges a "mob".

The Serbs and the civilized world knows who the "thugs" and "mob" really is and its the KLA terrorists who are giving orders to Ruecker and his NATO gang.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Brave UNMIK and brave KFOR! They are all so brave when dealing with unarmed civilians, otherwise, when there is a real violence they are like chickens. I guess this was good opportunity for them to make some exercise over unarmed civilians as they were dealing with some real terrorists.

However, I don’t think it will end up like this. Courthouse will be Serbian and there will be Serbian flag!

I thank Mr Samardzic for being there and addressing to people, trying to explain people what is going on. I thank him for being active and brave to stand by his own people.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Uli,

Exactly all medias report that civilians in courthouse were unarmed and they did not use any force, they did not resist while UNMIK police was arresting them. If you have other source, please do not hesitate and share it with us, send a link. And yes, let it be in English, please.

Btw, I think b92 reports very objectively, it is not biased media

Marco, Amsterdam

pre 16 godina

I feel sorry for the soldiers from the Ukraine, who were ordered by Larry Rossin (an American) and Xavier Bout de Marnhac (a Frenchman born in Germany) to storm a court house and arrest unarmed civilians. Why did Rossin and Bout de Marnhac not send in American or French soldiers? Why let these poor Ukrainian soldiers, as a kind of Légion étrangère (French Foreign Legion), do the dirty work?

Stevan

pre 16 godina

“… slavic people were allways violent,especially agains poor albanians which had never protection in last 100 years…”

Antti, you can sell these fearry tales of peaceful, non violent Albanians to Westerners who doesn’t have a clue about the Balkans, but this is Serb forum, with a lots of people from the Balkans who know you very well.

I would not bring it myself but I can't leave such claims so far removed from the reality un answered.

Truth is, Albanian culture is very, how should I say, old fashioned, traditional, extremely violent, clan based society. All Albanian man are trained too skillfully use fire arms from an early age. Every one is armed and fire arms are frequently used for all sorts of disputes. Blood revenge, (gjakmarrja), according to the ancient social code of Leke Dukagjinit from the XV century, is still practiced.
http://iwpr.net/?p=bcr&s=f&o=158066&apc_state=henibcr2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4273020.stm
http://meero.worldvision.org/news_article.php?newsID=527
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1aGqtBPLOs
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUAwa6LbCU

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

If the KFOR cant guarantee serbs safety in Northern Kosovo, maybe SAJ can? Then they will see some real opponents, not some civil unarmed justice workers...

Kujon

pre 16 godina

""We’ll offer resistance as people, as a state, as Christians, we have to reach an agreement and protest peacefully""

I am happy you are Christians, but this kind of talk leads one to think it is a relegious conflict an dit is not in my mind.

rolerkoster

pre 16 godina

Mr. Samardzic thought, he's going to become a Serbian hero by walking inside the justice building and start there to negotiate in favor of the people inside. PROTECTING the Serbian "justice workers" with his own body, ready to become a victim of international law and order ... just imagine this brave man handcuffed and brought to a jail in Pristina later. What a show!

What was this hero doing on weekend? Watching TV? Anyway, he missed the chance of his life - and now he needs someone for to blame for this. Let's see, what kind of minsister he is going to be after the elections ...