Fourth anniversary of Kosovo pogroms

"Altogether. since 1999, close to 200,000 Serbs and other non-Albanians have been driven out."

UN soldiers did nothing to prevent the 200,000 Serbs and other Non-Albanians being chased out of Kosovo, but today they did arrest unarmed Serbs who, as a way of protest, occupied a courthouse were they onced used to work. What a bizarre world we are living in....

Is this democratic paradise that some Albanian posters like to say for Kosovo? I congratulate IC for its 9 years’ achievements in establishing functional society. Let’s make the resume of achievements once more:

-1999- 200 000 Serbs left Kosovo,

2004- 4000 left Kosovo after breaking of violence

In addition

2004- 900 injured, 19 people died, 800 houses destroyed, 35 churches destroyed

In two days unrest – 400 incidents, 629 cases of arson and 12 bomb blasts

And, of course lets not forget to say that investigation is till opened, is any one surprised by this. Famous KPS is still investigating the event that took place 4 years ago. Wow, the one must be impressed by the KPS capability.



What an excellent achievement for IC and democratic society of Kosovo led by the true democrats of war criminal past!!!!!

Let’s not forget ever what happened 1999 and what happened 2004! May victims rest in peace.

"The majority of the dead were Albanians"

Albanians killed in clashes with NATO that is.

For DimTuc, (and for "Enis from DK" too, just for the sake of accuracy)

Valuable info regarding what happened in March 2004 you may get from the International Crisis Group report, "Collapse in Kosovo", available here:
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=2627&l=1

It should be known that ICG is an American think-thank, so it cannot be accused of Serbian propaganda. In my opinion, their Kosovo reports are generally accurate and well-resourced/investigated.

According to the report, the number of deceased people in the three-days-riots from March 2004 was 19.

11 were Albanians, and most of them were shot by KFOR and UNMIK Police, with one exception: on March 17, in Mitrovica, on the south bank of Ibar/Iber River, four Albanians were shot dead by Serb snipers AND/OR KFOR sharpshooters, because they (the Albanians) were shooting with AK-47 across the river.

I remember that in 2007, when I was in Kosovo, there was still no clarification from KFOR regarding who exactly had shot those four people...

Also, regarding the deaths, the report says:

In Caglavica (Serb) enclave, "desperate handto- hand fighting ensued, with the police and KFOR trying to hold their line, using water cannon, tear gas, and stun grenades, while themselves being attacked with sticks, stones, petrol bombs, and occasional small arms fire. [Norvegian] KFOR shot dead an Albanian who tried to ram his truck into their line."

In Prizren, on March 17, "several elderly Serbs were beaten, one died in the burning (Orthodox) seminary".

In Pec/Peja, "a crowd of about 100 soon grew to several thousands (...) and attacked the village of Belo Polje [inhabited by Serbs]. Italian troops evacuated residents into their nearby base, and one of the mob [K/Albanian] was shot dead by an [American] UNMIK police officer."

"In Lipjan/Lipljan, at least one Serb and possibly two Albanians were killed."

In Gjilan/Gnjilane town, “a 52-year old Serb was caught and killed by the crowd
outside his house”.


On March 18, ICG report states that "targeting was more systematic, extensive and cynical, and the volume of destruction was far higher. Most of the hundreds of homes destroyed during the violence were burned on 18 March. Some towns where no or comparatively mild violence had flared the first day experienced extensive ethnic cleansing”.

In Pristina, "KFOR shot four Albanians." and “in the confusion [of street fighting], as an Italian UNMIK riot police detachment arrived, one riot policeman was shot in the leg, possibly by a KPS officer, while another KPS officer was mistakenly shot three times by an Italian.”

“In the predominantly Serb Strpce municipality, a crowd of Albanians arrived
at the edge of the village of Drajkovac in the evening. They knocked at the first Serb house, shot dead a father and son, and withdrew”.

In Mitrovica, “sniper fire on KFOR and Serbs in North Mitrovica caused casualties. KFOR identified some as coming from the Three Towers [three buildings on the right bank of Ibar, inhabited by Albanians], and fired into the suspected apartment, reportedly killing an Albanian.”


That's all, regarding the deaths in Kosovo, March 2004.

Best from Bucharest,
George

Enis from DK, UNMIK investigated the "Serbs with dogs" and found it to be inconsistent with the evidence. See this

http://www.unmikonline.org/press/2004/trans/tr280404.pdf

http://www.balkantimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2004/04/040429-SVETLA-001

It is not something you can negate as "Serb propaganda".

And PS I am not a Serb myself anyway.

17-3-2004
17-3-2008
And the terror against Serbian people continues.
SHAME on you NATO-
SHAME on you UN-
SHAME on you EUROPE-
17-3-2004
Will never Forget

B92, you didn't put the story in contest. The children drowned were the result of a sad accident on their own part.

It was the parents who made up the lie/story of the bad Serbs drowning them. They knew that story would cause a riot, more Serbs being killed and forced out and sympathy from the world media.

In obscuring this, B92 is responsible for continuing the violence!

Enis from DK, you're relatively new to this site, but the few comments I've read from you pass you off as one of those foaming at the keyboard Albanian nationalists that come and go. What you may believe may not be what actually happened. It has been proven that the story behind two Albanian boys being chased into a river by Serbs was a fabrication, and a justification for the 2004 riots. All investigations into this alleged plot have come up nil, and has PJD pointed out, have been documented in official forms too. Please don't think that anything that slightly questions Albanian self-regarded superiority is somehow Serbian propaganda. I'm not Serb and I don't buy into the whole CCCC narrative, but even I have to sympathize with them here. But if I don't believe everything I read out of Serbian news sources, you definitely shouldn't believe everything you read coming out of Albanian.

Remembering the 2004 victims, the culture destroyed, the homes razed, and the society divided....

"This is an honest question and I hope someone can answer it objectively, without imputing and devious motives to it.

Of course I utterly condemn these pogroms, just as I utterly condemend the far greater repression and pogroms against Albanians 1989-99. One crime isn't better just because it is on a smaller scale, though I do wish we could have less hypocrist around here.
...
(DimTuc, 17 March 2008 12:28) "

I too have a low opinion of hypocrites.

Hypothetically speaking for instance, let us say there was an 'event' (eg: province wide riot by one ethnic group against another far smaller ethnic group) which severely damaged the public image of a particular ethnic group a few years ago.

Then on the aniversary of that 'event', a discussion about it was taking place.

And then let us say that a 'member' of that far larger ethnic group wanted to trivialise the 'event' that took place some years ago (4 for instance).

One way to do so might be to compare that 'event' to an even 'larger event' (in which the larger ethnic group were the victims) that took place even further back in time.

Now, if that 'member' also stated in the discussion that his/her motives were honest & without any ulterior purpose.

Then that 'member' would be a hypocrite.

And if that 'member' further stated that he/she disliked hypocrisy, then that member would be a King-sized (Queens-sized?) hypocrite.

And if that 'member' also chose to selectively pick his/her facts - such as for instance, omitting an even 'much larger event' still that the larger ethnic group perpetrated on the smaller ethnic group during say, WWII, then that 'member' would be a GIANT King-sized hypocrite.

Just speculation of course :)
have a nice day.

Great journalism B92. There is only one fact that you seem to mention. The majority of the dead were Albanians. But that would make it sound as if the serbs were prepared as stated by Rada Trajkovic, who got away whith that statement.

Enis from DK,
WRONG!
Kosovo is Serbian domain period! The fact that the majority of the countries in the world have not recognized Kosovo should spell this out for you. With this information all foreign occupiers would deduce that they are wrong and not wanted on Serbian land .
Every reaction by the Serbs thus far is legal because their actions are defensive.
Enis,
what would you do if a burglar broke into your home and told you that he now is the proud new owner of your home.

robert,

when was a time of Kosovo war 1999 Nato propaganda built up figure of 250 000 killed Albanians.
In last eight years forensic experts from EU found around 2000 bodies from both sides.
When it comes to the figure of 8000, so far International experts, exclusive of those from Serbia, they were forbidden a part, have recovered some more over 2300 in the Srebrenica proximity, again from both sides.
Let we all be not naive.

This is an honest question and I hope someone can answer it objectively, without imputing and devious motives to it.

Of course I utterly condemn these pogroms, just as I utterly condemend the far greater repression and pogroms against Albanians 1989-99. One crime isn't better just because it is on a smaller scale, though I do wish we could have less hypocrist around here.

My question is this: On March 17-18 2004, 19 people were killed, 8 Serbs and 11 Albanians. The Serbs were killed by these minority of Albanian rioters (who were confronted by the KPS). Who killed the 11 Albanians and in what circumstances? I have been unable to find good info. Was it NATO troops, was it armed Serbs in Mitrovica, or a bit of both? The answer does not cahnge the seriousness of the pogrom, but I would most appreciate it for clarity.

No it was Serbs that killed those albanians and it started with to albanian children killed by serbs? why can't B92 give the correct info? That Serb propaganda is unbeliveble? thougt your were a democratic country by now but now you havent learned anything new still Milosevic era for you guys.

It is a shame to speak about pogrom. A real pogrom took place in Srebrenica in 1995, where Serbs massacred 8000 people. When will Mr Kostunica apologise for that dreadfull event?

Well they couldnt investigate it because the Serbs in the Northern part of Mitrovica werent interested in cooperation with the UNMIK how can Serbs be so cold? I fell sorry for the famillys of both albanian and Serbian losses and think that those comitting deadly crime should be punished and not protected?

11* maybe i'm new but i'm against the vioelence that Serbs have began comitting in Kosova? they have attacked the international forces with automatic weapons and hand granades? are you justifying that? I think that KFOR should start using also stun bullets not live rounds? and those Serbs that use weapons should be put behind bars for life time? Not like in Serbia were the goverment back hooliganism up? This is the teritorry of Kosova...

there is ONE Thing that i will credit to b92 -- the comments, at least in this section, help to clarify some of the complexity and ambiguity of this 2004 "pogrom.' other than that, it sounds like a piece straight out of a nationalist publication

(you can censor me for the rest of b92's existence, but you will never stop the truth.)

roberto from san francisco

Thanks to George for that very thorough answer.

As for your cynicism Peter, yes you are exctly the kind of list member I was making those preemptive warnings about. I'll just comment on a minor point, however. You say:

"Then on the aniversary of that 'event', a discussion about it was taking place.
And then let us say that a 'member' of that far larger ethnic group wanted to trivialise the 'event' that took place some years ago" blah blah.

And where did you get the idea I was Albanian? The only answer I can think of is that the Serbian propaganda of the 80s and 90s still has an influence on the minds of otherwise intelligent people today. So who could hold an opinion different from Milosevic/Seselj/Kostunica/Karadzic unless the had Albanian and/or Muslim blood?

DimTuc:

Interesting that you should identify yourself with my little bit of 'hypothetical speculation'. Feel free to substitute 'pro K-albanian supporter' for 'member' by all means. Will not change logic of post one iota. Analysis stands.

As am helpful old cynic, here, will do so for you..


"This is an honest question and I hope someone can answer it objectively, without imputing and devious motives to it.

Of course I utterly condemn these pogroms, just as I utterly condemend the far greater repression and pogroms against Albanians 1989-99. One crime isn't better just because it is on a smaller scale, though I do wish we could have less hypocrist around here.
...
(DimTuc, 17 March 2008 12:28) "

I too have a low opinion of hypocrites.

Hypothetically speaking for instance, let us say there was an 'event' (eg: province wide riot by one ethnic group against another far smaller ethnic group) which severely damaged the public image of a particular ethnic group a few years ago.

Then on the aniversary of that 'event', a discussion about it was taking place.

And then let us say that a 'pro K-albanian supporter' of that far larger ethnic group wanted to trivialise the 'event' that took place some years ago (4 for instance).

One way to do so might be to compare that 'event' to an even 'larger event' (in which the larger ethnic group were the victims) that took place even further back in time.

Now, if that 'pro K-albanian supporter' also stated in the discussion that his/her motives were honest & without any ulterior purpose.

Then that 'pro K-albanian supporter' would be a hypocrite.

And if that 'pro K-albanian supporter' further stated that he/she disliked hypocrisy, then that pro K-albanian supporter would be a King-sized (Queens-sized?) hypocrite.

And if that 'pro K-albanian supporter' also chose to selectively pick his/her facts - such as for instance, omitting an even 'much larger event' still that the larger ethnic group perpetrated on the smaller ethnic group during say, WWII, then that 'pro K-albanian supporter' would be a GIANT King-sized hypocrite.

Just speculation of course :)
have a very nice day.

Rain,

Am I correct that your comment about the number of killed people in Srebrenica suggests that it is all not so serious what happened there?

Serbs are mainly responsible for the wars in the former Yugoslavia. Serbs started the wars in Croatia and Bosnia. Serbs were bombing Sarajevo for years, causing many victims. Serbs took away the constitutional guaranteed autonomy of Kosovo and Vojvodina, by overthrowing the legal structures with military force. Serbs are responsible for so many killings. And now we should trust and beleive you as the most peaceful and democratic. Come on......

No it was Serbs that killed those albanians and it started with to albanian children killed by serbs? why can't B92 give the correct info? That Serb propaganda is unbeliveble? thougt your were a democratic country by now but now you havent learned anything new still Milosevic era for you guys.

Great journalism B92. There is only one fact that you seem to mention. The majority of the dead were Albanians. But that would make it sound as if the serbs were prepared as stated by Rada Trajkovic, who got away whith that statement.

11* maybe i'm new but i'm against the vioelence that Serbs have began comitting in Kosova? they have attacked the international forces with automatic weapons and hand granades? are you justifying that? I think that KFOR should start using also stun bullets not live rounds? and those Serbs that use weapons should be put behind bars for life time? Not like in Serbia were the goverment back hooliganism up? This is the teritorry of Kosova...

It is a shame to speak about pogrom. A real pogrom took place in Srebrenica in 1995, where Serbs massacred 8000 people. When will Mr Kostunica apologise for that dreadfull event?

This is an honest question and I hope someone can answer it objectively, without imputing and devious motives to it.

Of course I utterly condemn these pogroms, just as I utterly condemend the far greater repression and pogroms against Albanians 1989-99. One crime isn't better just because it is on a smaller scale, though I do wish we could have less hypocrist around here.

My question is this: On March 17-18 2004, 19 people were killed, 8 Serbs and 11 Albanians. The Serbs were killed by these minority of Albanian rioters (who were confronted by the KPS). Who killed the 11 Albanians and in what circumstances? I have been unable to find good info. Was it NATO troops, was it armed Serbs in Mitrovica, or a bit of both? The answer does not cahnge the seriousness of the pogrom, but I would most appreciate it for clarity.

Well they couldnt investigate it because the Serbs in the Northern part of Mitrovica werent interested in cooperation with the UNMIK how can Serbs be so cold? I fell sorry for the famillys of both albanian and Serbian losses and think that those comitting deadly crime should be punished and not protected?

"Altogether. since 1999, close to 200,000 Serbs and other non-Albanians have been driven out."

UN soldiers did nothing to prevent the 200,000 Serbs and other Non-Albanians being chased out of Kosovo, but today they did arrest unarmed Serbs who, as a way of protest, occupied a courthouse were they onced used to work. What a bizarre world we are living in....

Is this democratic paradise that some Albanian posters like to say for Kosovo? I congratulate IC for its 9 years’ achievements in establishing functional society. Let’s make the resume of achievements once more:

-1999- 200 000 Serbs left Kosovo,

2004- 4000 left Kosovo after breaking of violence

In addition

2004- 900 injured, 19 people died, 800 houses destroyed, 35 churches destroyed

In two days unrest – 400 incidents, 629 cases of arson and 12 bomb blasts

And, of course lets not forget to say that investigation is till opened, is any one surprised by this. Famous KPS is still investigating the event that took place 4 years ago. Wow, the one must be impressed by the KPS capability.



What an excellent achievement for IC and democratic society of Kosovo led by the true democrats of war criminal past!!!!!

Let’s not forget ever what happened 1999 and what happened 2004! May victims rest in peace.

"The majority of the dead were Albanians"

Albanians killed in clashes with NATO that is.

Enis from DK, UNMIK investigated the "Serbs with dogs" and found it to be inconsistent with the evidence. See this

http://www.unmikonline.org/press/2004/trans/tr280404.pdf

http://www.balkantimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2004/04/040429-SVETLA-001

It is not something you can negate as "Serb propaganda".

And PS I am not a Serb myself anyway.

17-3-2004
17-3-2008
And the terror against Serbian people continues.
SHAME on you NATO-
SHAME on you UN-
SHAME on you EUROPE-
17-3-2004
Will never Forget

B92, you didn't put the story in contest. The children drowned were the result of a sad accident on their own part.

It was the parents who made up the lie/story of the bad Serbs drowning them. They knew that story would cause a riot, more Serbs being killed and forced out and sympathy from the world media.

In obscuring this, B92 is responsible for continuing the violence!

For DimTuc, (and for "Enis from DK" too, just for the sake of accuracy)

Valuable info regarding what happened in March 2004 you may get from the International Crisis Group report, "Collapse in Kosovo", available here:
http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=2627&l=1

It should be known that ICG is an American think-thank, so it cannot be accused of Serbian propaganda. In my opinion, their Kosovo reports are generally accurate and well-resourced/investigated.

According to the report, the number of deceased people in the three-days-riots from March 2004 was 19.

11 were Albanians, and most of them were shot by KFOR and UNMIK Police, with one exception: on March 17, in Mitrovica, on the south bank of Ibar/Iber River, four Albanians were shot dead by Serb snipers AND/OR KFOR sharpshooters, because they (the Albanians) were shooting with AK-47 across the river.

I remember that in 2007, when I was in Kosovo, there was still no clarification from KFOR regarding who exactly had shot those four people...

Also, regarding the deaths, the report says:

In Caglavica (Serb) enclave, "desperate handto- hand fighting ensued, with the police and KFOR trying to hold their line, using water cannon, tear gas, and stun grenades, while themselves being attacked with sticks, stones, petrol bombs, and occasional small arms fire. [Norvegian] KFOR shot dead an Albanian who tried to ram his truck into their line."

In Prizren, on March 17, "several elderly Serbs were beaten, one died in the burning (Orthodox) seminary".

In Pec/Peja, "a crowd of about 100 soon grew to several thousands (...) and attacked the village of Belo Polje [inhabited by Serbs]. Italian troops evacuated residents into their nearby base, and one of the mob [K/Albanian] was shot dead by an [American] UNMIK police officer."

"In Lipjan/Lipljan, at least one Serb and possibly two Albanians were killed."

In Gjilan/Gnjilane town, “a 52-year old Serb was caught and killed by the crowd
outside his house”.


On March 18, ICG report states that "targeting was more systematic, extensive and cynical, and the volume of destruction was far higher. Most of the hundreds of homes destroyed during the violence were burned on 18 March. Some towns where no or comparatively mild violence had flared the first day experienced extensive ethnic cleansing”.

In Pristina, "KFOR shot four Albanians." and “in the confusion [of street fighting], as an Italian UNMIK riot police detachment arrived, one riot policeman was shot in the leg, possibly by a KPS officer, while another KPS officer was mistakenly shot three times by an Italian.”

“In the predominantly Serb Strpce municipality, a crowd of Albanians arrived
at the edge of the village of Drajkovac in the evening. They knocked at the first Serb house, shot dead a father and son, and withdrew”.

In Mitrovica, “sniper fire on KFOR and Serbs in North Mitrovica caused casualties. KFOR identified some as coming from the Three Towers [three buildings on the right bank of Ibar, inhabited by Albanians], and fired into the suspected apartment, reportedly killing an Albanian.”


That's all, regarding the deaths in Kosovo, March 2004.

Best from Bucharest,
George

Enis from DK, you're relatively new to this site, but the few comments I've read from you pass you off as one of those foaming at the keyboard Albanian nationalists that come and go. What you may believe may not be what actually happened. It has been proven that the story behind two Albanian boys being chased into a river by Serbs was a fabrication, and a justification for the 2004 riots. All investigations into this alleged plot have come up nil, and has PJD pointed out, have been documented in official forms too. Please don't think that anything that slightly questions Albanian self-regarded superiority is somehow Serbian propaganda. I'm not Serb and I don't buy into the whole CCCC narrative, but even I have to sympathize with them here. But if I don't believe everything I read out of Serbian news sources, you definitely shouldn't believe everything you read coming out of Albanian.

Remembering the 2004 victims, the culture destroyed, the homes razed, and the society divided....

"This is an honest question and I hope someone can answer it objectively, without imputing and devious motives to it.

Of course I utterly condemn these pogroms, just as I utterly condemend the far greater repression and pogroms against Albanians 1989-99. One crime isn't better just because it is on a smaller scale, though I do wish we could have less hypocrist around here.
...
(DimTuc, 17 March 2008 12:28) "

I too have a low opinion of hypocrites.

Hypothetically speaking for instance, let us say there was an 'event' (eg: province wide riot by one ethnic group against another far smaller ethnic group) which severely damaged the public image of a particular ethnic group a few years ago.

Then on the aniversary of that 'event', a discussion about it was taking place.

And then let us say that a 'member' of that far larger ethnic group wanted to trivialise the 'event' that took place some years ago (4 for instance).

One way to do so might be to compare that 'event' to an even 'larger event' (in which the larger ethnic group were the victims) that took place even further back in time.

Now, if that 'member' also stated in the discussion that his/her motives were honest & without any ulterior purpose.

Then that 'member' would be a hypocrite.

And if that 'member' further stated that he/she disliked hypocrisy, then that member would be a King-sized (Queens-sized?) hypocrite.

And if that 'member' also chose to selectively pick his/her facts - such as for instance, omitting an even 'much larger event' still that the larger ethnic group perpetrated on the smaller ethnic group during say, WWII, then that 'member' would be a GIANT King-sized hypocrite.

Just speculation of course :)
have a nice day.

Enis from DK,
WRONG!
Kosovo is Serbian domain period! The fact that the majority of the countries in the world have not recognized Kosovo should spell this out for you. With this information all foreign occupiers would deduce that they are wrong and not wanted on Serbian land .
Every reaction by the Serbs thus far is legal because their actions are defensive.
Enis,
what would you do if a burglar broke into your home and told you that he now is the proud new owner of your home.

robert,

when was a time of Kosovo war 1999 Nato propaganda built up figure of 250 000 killed Albanians.
In last eight years forensic experts from EU found around 2000 bodies from both sides.
When it comes to the figure of 8000, so far International experts, exclusive of those from Serbia, they were forbidden a part, have recovered some more over 2300 in the Srebrenica proximity, again from both sides.
Let we all be not naive.

there is ONE Thing that i will credit to b92 -- the comments, at least in this section, help to clarify some of the complexity and ambiguity of this 2004 "pogrom.' other than that, it sounds like a piece straight out of a nationalist publication

(you can censor me for the rest of b92's existence, but you will never stop the truth.)

roberto from san francisco

Thanks to George for that very thorough answer.

As for your cynicism Peter, yes you are exctly the kind of list member I was making those preemptive warnings about. I'll just comment on a minor point, however. You say:

"Then on the aniversary of that 'event', a discussion about it was taking place.
And then let us say that a 'member' of that far larger ethnic group wanted to trivialise the 'event' that took place some years ago" blah blah.

And where did you get the idea I was Albanian? The only answer I can think of is that the Serbian propaganda of the 80s and 90s still has an influence on the minds of otherwise intelligent people today. So who could hold an opinion different from Milosevic/Seselj/Kostunica/Karadzic unless the had Albanian and/or Muslim blood?

DimTuc:

Interesting that you should identify yourself with my little bit of 'hypothetical speculation'. Feel free to substitute 'pro K-albanian supporter' for 'member' by all means. Will not change logic of post one iota. Analysis stands.

As am helpful old cynic, here, will do so for you..


"This is an honest question and I hope someone can answer it objectively, without imputing and devious motives to it.

Of course I utterly condemn these pogroms, just as I utterly condemend the far greater repression and pogroms against Albanians 1989-99. One crime isn't better just because it is on a smaller scale, though I do wish we could have less hypocrist around here.
...
(DimTuc, 17 March 2008 12:28) "

I too have a low opinion of hypocrites.

Hypothetically speaking for instance, let us say there was an 'event' (eg: province wide riot by one ethnic group against another far smaller ethnic group) which severely damaged the public image of a particular ethnic group a few years ago.

Then on the aniversary of that 'event', a discussion about it was taking place.

And then let us say that a 'pro K-albanian supporter' of that far larger ethnic group wanted to trivialise the 'event' that took place some years ago (4 for instance).

One way to do so might be to compare that 'event' to an even 'larger event' (in which the larger ethnic group were the victims) that took place even further back in time.

Now, if that 'pro K-albanian supporter' also stated in the discussion that his/her motives were honest & without any ulterior purpose.

Then that 'pro K-albanian supporter' would be a hypocrite.

And if that 'pro K-albanian supporter' further stated that he/she disliked hypocrisy, then that pro K-albanian supporter would be a King-sized (Queens-sized?) hypocrite.

And if that 'pro K-albanian supporter' also chose to selectively pick his/her facts - such as for instance, omitting an even 'much larger event' still that the larger ethnic group perpetrated on the smaller ethnic group during say, WWII, then that 'pro K-albanian supporter' would be a GIANT King-sized hypocrite.

Just speculation of course :)
have a very nice day.

Rain,

Am I correct that your comment about the number of killed people in Srebrenica suggests that it is all not so serious what happened there?

Serbs are mainly responsible for the wars in the former Yugoslavia. Serbs started the wars in Croatia and Bosnia. Serbs were bombing Sarajevo for years, causing many victims. Serbs took away the constitutional guaranteed autonomy of Kosovo and Vojvodina, by overthrowing the legal structures with military force. Serbs are responsible for so many killings. And now we should trust and beleive you as the most peaceful and democratic. Come on......