UN SC: No agreement over further talks

B92 seems to favor the flawed "view" of some western politicians...by talking about Russia and "failure" -- but, let´s be honest, there is nothing failed, since the UN have reaffirmed the position and presence of UNMIK in the southern serbian province.

THAT my dear editors is worth being published, since it means that the international community does not see the socalled eulex-mute-group as a legitimtate substitute for UNMIK.

and there it goes the socalled independence... Mr. Churkin has described it quite nice as a matrix-type of virtual reality when somebody talks of independence.

and that´s reality my dear friends.

let´s just see what future brings!

ps: oh, by the way, do you have those one-hundred countries gathered together?

"Jeremic's waffle is too little, too late.By asking the countries that recognised kosova's indpendence to annul their decisions he is making a fool of himself.Mr Jeremic remember that a river never turns back.
(ahmed, 12 March 2008 13:17)"

face it ahmed, Kosovo can never enter the UN!

ahmed:
"remember that a river never turns back. "

Well actually.. it can.
Just takes a big enough earthquake :)

Here we go again, evil Serbs were / are murdering peaceful, freedom loving Albaninas for hundreds of years. Explain to me how could Serbs, enslaved Christian "raja", terrorize their Muslim Albanian overlords? How can it be that number of Albanians was / is constantly (dramaticaly) rising and number of Serbs droping if Serbs are killing Albanians all the time? Or was it more exactly the opposite case?

Jon Smit (#8),

Your statement "Well... arround the world every one knows that Serbia has done ethnic cleansing for hundred of years, but cannot not do it any more" shows that you do not know much about history.

In the 19th century white Americans killed 90% of all native Americans, the rest was put in reservations. Early 20th century, during the Boer war in South Africa, the British army did horrible things to Boer people (white people originally from Holland). Farms were burned and most Boer people were put in concentration camps (many elderly and children died in these camps). From 1933 to 1945 the Germans killed over 30 million people. In World War II Croats killed more than 500.000 Serbs and an equal number of Serbs were chased from their homes (Bosniaks and Albanians also killed many Serbs). So Jon, over the past two centuries who have been the real bad guys?

'remember that a river never turns back.
(ahmed, 12 March 2008 13:17)'

Well actually a tidal bore can be very swift, powerful and cleansing.
http://www.waveofdestruction.org/tsunami-photos/v/tsunami/gagreflex/a07.jpg.html

Well done Ahmed, another fantastically uninformed and uninformative statement by you.

Jeremic's waffle is too little, too late.By asking the countries that recognised kosova's indpendence to annul their decisions he is making a fool of himself.Mr Jeremic remember that a river never turns back.

Jovan :let´s just see what future brings!

It is already here man,For Serbia it wont bring back Kosova. And when the so called ally Russi gives up the 4 Japanese island and dosnt force Chechnia to have a treator as a president, maybe than it will look good on Serbias side Russian support.
Till than you will have to wait a lot mister Jovan, i doubt even your kids will be able to witness that.
Trying to rely on a dictator to kill the freedom of the people of Kosova.

joe... my dear albanian friend joe...

it´s not arrogance, it´s the RULE OF LAW, don´t you get it? or don´t you want to understand?

you can cough up as much "bad karma" ..the only one you are damaging with that is yourself!

wake up, buddy, there is no such thing like "kosova"... it´s only the k-albanians who are saying it. and some twenty or so countries out of more than 190...

welcome to reality. but not matrix-like, this time.

“ … What can you tell to that?” - (US ambassador in UN “ … will not have our support.” )

How about - ambassador, you are wrong, Kosovo is part of our country and we will not give it away. It doesn’t matter what you do, we will get it back.

I am surprised that B92 has published the comments above, which mention cleansing. Well... arround the world every one knows that Serbia has done ethnic cleansing for hundred of years, but cannot not do it any more.

But everything that ignores what has happened, or indirectly, through word-play, does not accept that fact, will not have our support.”

That was spot on! What can you tell to that?

What does this Jeremic thinks he is achieving by talking to the SC and telling them that Serbias teritory has been cut and all that. kosova was part of a country that Serbia killed (Yugoslavia). Serbia really needs to move on and try to join EU, as believe you me, If i had to chose whether I would like to travel without visa to Russia or EU (UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy etc) I would chose EU. Young Serbs should go out more and see how the world live and not listen to Kostunica and Nikolic and Patriarc Pavle who are from the medival times.
Kosova is never going to look back that's for sure no mater what Serbia or Russia say.

Funny to see the never changing Serbian arrogance in the Serbian posts. And their big friend Russia, who was supposed to prevent all these things to be expected like independence and recognition shows her impuissance.

Jovan, GSP,

You made my day. Calling me an Albanian - knowing well that I am not one - was intended as an insult. In reality I consider it as a badge of honour. For a while now I consider myself as an honorary K-Albanian. I have a tremendous respect and sympathy for those 2 million people, who suffered so much and so long but finally got their independence and recognition by all the important European democratic countries and the US. And Serbia is totally powerless about it as today's New York Times pointed it out.

Churkin> “We do not accept that a new reality has been established. We believe that what has happened is some kind of Matrix virtual reality that cannot be recognized as a legal international reality ."

Somebody send that man a 2-way train ticket to Pristina, so he gets a chance to enter the Matrix.

To Joe -

If this were an albanian, it would be pride & not arrogance.

Doesn't surprise anyone the minute there is the CLAIM of independence, there is 125M Evra on the way to help - not nearly enough for all the damages done by the invaders! Let's call a spade a spade now, Joe - shall we?

"I admit it. Now admit it that Serbia will never control Kosova.
(KS, 12 March 2008 21:54) "

KS,

I have always acknowledged that Belgrade never controlled Kosovo below the Ibar since 1999. Now you admit that Pristina will never control north Kosovo!

Actually I have been predicting de facto partition for ages now.

# "Jeremic's waffle is too little, too late.By asking the countries that recognised kosova's indpendence to annul their decisions he is making a fool of himself.Mr Jeremic remember that a river never turns back.
(ahmed, 12 March 2008 13:17)"

face it ahmed, Kosovo can never enter the UN!
(lowe, 12 March 2008 13:35)

I admit it. Now admit it that Serbia will never control Kosova.

I don't understand why Mr. Jermic and ambasador Churkin would waste time talking anymore about Kosovo when everyone knows that is a done deal, even the serbs know that.
Further talks? You got to be kidding me!
Ambasador Churkin said something about Matrix, i would say that this is Matrix revolution, starring Hashin Thaci as Nemo and Fatmir Sejdiu as Morphius., and Ahtisaaeri as Oracle (he/she knew what's about to happen even before negociations)

" I am surprised that B92 has published the comments above, which mention cleansing. Well... around the world every one knows that Serbia has done ethnic cleansing for hundred of years, but cannot not do it any more.
(Jon Smit)"

dear jon -- why, you took the words right out of my mouth. really makes you wonder, doesn't it. "cleansing"...

roberto from frisco

I am surprised that B92 has published the comments above, which mention cleansing. Well... arround the world every one knows that Serbia has done ethnic cleansing for hundred of years, but cannot not do it any more.

Jeremic's waffle is too little, too late.By asking the countries that recognised kosova's indpendence to annul their decisions he is making a fool of himself.Mr Jeremic remember that a river never turns back.

Jovan :let´s just see what future brings!

It is already here man,For Serbia it wont bring back Kosova. And when the so called ally Russi gives up the 4 Japanese island and dosnt force Chechnia to have a treator as a president, maybe than it will look good on Serbias side Russian support.
Till than you will have to wait a lot mister Jovan, i doubt even your kids will be able to witness that.
Trying to rely on a dictator to kill the freedom of the people of Kosova.

Funny to see the never changing Serbian arrogance in the Serbian posts. And their big friend Russia, who was supposed to prevent all these things to be expected like independence and recognition shows her impuissance.

Churkin> “We do not accept that a new reality has been established. We believe that what has happened is some kind of Matrix virtual reality that cannot be recognized as a legal international reality ."

Somebody send that man a 2-way train ticket to Pristina, so he gets a chance to enter the Matrix.

What does this Jeremic thinks he is achieving by talking to the SC and telling them that Serbias teritory has been cut and all that. kosova was part of a country that Serbia killed (Yugoslavia). Serbia really needs to move on and try to join EU, as believe you me, If i had to chose whether I would like to travel without visa to Russia or EU (UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy etc) I would chose EU. Young Serbs should go out more and see how the world live and not listen to Kostunica and Nikolic and Patriarc Pavle who are from the medival times.
Kosova is never going to look back that's for sure no mater what Serbia or Russia say.

'remember that a river never turns back.
(ahmed, 12 March 2008 13:17)'

Well actually a tidal bore can be very swift, powerful and cleansing.
http://www.waveofdestruction.org/tsunami-photos/v/tsunami/gagreflex/a07.jpg.html

Well done Ahmed, another fantastically uninformed and uninformative statement by you.

B92 seems to favor the flawed "view" of some western politicians...by talking about Russia and "failure" -- but, let´s be honest, there is nothing failed, since the UN have reaffirmed the position and presence of UNMIK in the southern serbian province.

THAT my dear editors is worth being published, since it means that the international community does not see the socalled eulex-mute-group as a legitimtate substitute for UNMIK.

and there it goes the socalled independence... Mr. Churkin has described it quite nice as a matrix-type of virtual reality when somebody talks of independence.

and that´s reality my dear friends.

let´s just see what future brings!

ps: oh, by the way, do you have those one-hundred countries gathered together?

“ … What can you tell to that?” - (US ambassador in UN “ … will not have our support.” )

How about - ambassador, you are wrong, Kosovo is part of our country and we will not give it away. It doesn’t matter what you do, we will get it back.

"Jeremic's waffle is too little, too late.By asking the countries that recognised kosova's indpendence to annul their decisions he is making a fool of himself.Mr Jeremic remember that a river never turns back.
(ahmed, 12 March 2008 13:17)"

face it ahmed, Kosovo can never enter the UN!

ahmed:
"remember that a river never turns back. "

Well actually.. it can.
Just takes a big enough earthquake :)

Here we go again, evil Serbs were / are murdering peaceful, freedom loving Albaninas for hundreds of years. Explain to me how could Serbs, enslaved Christian "raja", terrorize their Muslim Albanian overlords? How can it be that number of Albanians was / is constantly (dramaticaly) rising and number of Serbs droping if Serbs are killing Albanians all the time? Or was it more exactly the opposite case?

Jon Smit (#8),

Your statement "Well... arround the world every one knows that Serbia has done ethnic cleansing for hundred of years, but cannot not do it any more" shows that you do not know much about history.

In the 19th century white Americans killed 90% of all native Americans, the rest was put in reservations. Early 20th century, during the Boer war in South Africa, the British army did horrible things to Boer people (white people originally from Holland). Farms were burned and most Boer people were put in concentration camps (many elderly and children died in these camps). From 1933 to 1945 the Germans killed over 30 million people. In World War II Croats killed more than 500.000 Serbs and an equal number of Serbs were chased from their homes (Bosniaks and Albanians also killed many Serbs). So Jon, over the past two centuries who have been the real bad guys?

But everything that ignores what has happened, or indirectly, through word-play, does not accept that fact, will not have our support.”

That was spot on! What can you tell to that?

joe... my dear albanian friend joe...

it´s not arrogance, it´s the RULE OF LAW, don´t you get it? or don´t you want to understand?

you can cough up as much "bad karma" ..the only one you are damaging with that is yourself!

wake up, buddy, there is no such thing like "kosova"... it´s only the k-albanians who are saying it. and some twenty or so countries out of more than 190...

welcome to reality. but not matrix-like, this time.

# "Jeremic's waffle is too little, too late.By asking the countries that recognised kosova's indpendence to annul their decisions he is making a fool of himself.Mr Jeremic remember that a river never turns back.
(ahmed, 12 March 2008 13:17)"

face it ahmed, Kosovo can never enter the UN!
(lowe, 12 March 2008 13:35)

I admit it. Now admit it that Serbia will never control Kosova.

To Joe -

If this were an albanian, it would be pride & not arrogance.

Doesn't surprise anyone the minute there is the CLAIM of independence, there is 125M Evra on the way to help - not nearly enough for all the damages done by the invaders! Let's call a spade a spade now, Joe - shall we?

Jovan, GSP,

You made my day. Calling me an Albanian - knowing well that I am not one - was intended as an insult. In reality I consider it as a badge of honour. For a while now I consider myself as an honorary K-Albanian. I have a tremendous respect and sympathy for those 2 million people, who suffered so much and so long but finally got their independence and recognition by all the important European democratic countries and the US. And Serbia is totally powerless about it as today's New York Times pointed it out.

"I admit it. Now admit it that Serbia will never control Kosova.
(KS, 12 March 2008 21:54) "

KS,

I have always acknowledged that Belgrade never controlled Kosovo below the Ibar since 1999. Now you admit that Pristina will never control north Kosovo!

Actually I have been predicting de facto partition for ages now.

I don't understand why Mr. Jermic and ambasador Churkin would waste time talking anymore about Kosovo when everyone knows that is a done deal, even the serbs know that.
Further talks? You got to be kidding me!
Ambasador Churkin said something about Matrix, i would say that this is Matrix revolution, starring Hashin Thaci as Nemo and Fatmir Sejdiu as Morphius., and Ahtisaaeri as Oracle (he/she knew what's about to happen even before negociations)

" I am surprised that B92 has published the comments above, which mention cleansing. Well... around the world every one knows that Serbia has done ethnic cleansing for hundred of years, but cannot not do it any more.
(Jon Smit)"

dear jon -- why, you took the words right out of my mouth. really makes you wonder, doesn't it. "cleansing"...

roberto from frisco