Russia to cancel visas for Serbians

It's time Serbs developed very close ties with Russia and this is a very positive step.
For too long Serbia and Russia have been kept apart. Finally Serbia has come out of the darkness and realized that there is no substitute for family. By all means, trade with the world and make friends but there is only one big brother you can rely on.

Serbia's leaders should not be allowed to put obsticles in the way of this friendship.
Politicians like Tadic who made it clear to Russia that there will be no freign bases in Serbia must be removed. I didn't hear the same words coming from Thaci. So Serbia's neightbours can get close to the very people who are plotting Seriba's fall but Serbia should keep their friends out of their life.

All I can say is. Long live Russian/Serbian brotherhood.

One good turn deserves another ! Even the fact that we are welcomed in Serbia may boost not only tourism but real investments too. Very often Russian business is considered to be the most risky in Europe.

Odi, Russia/China alliance is getting stronger by the day and many countries are waiting to join it. NATO is weakening due to being over stretched but Russian alliance is just taking off.

I seriously dobut that your Thaci would like this alliance to be a reality so close to him. Too close for comfort.

Look down on Russia all you like, but that's all you can do. Look. You will never be admitted to the club.

Don't think for once second that Europe is going to be united ever over anything. That's why they will always be weak and get weaker as their masters from US get weaker.

He who laughs last....

You know what I mean.

Well, if THAT is what Serbian or Russian government does propose, it's nearly a bogus. I am very upset.

Citizens of Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia, Crna Gora and to my best knowledge also Bosnia can travel to Russia without visa: if they have invitation or vaucher. There is nothing new.
Same is in the opposite direction. I know it pretty well and during the time of SFRJ I HAD TO KNOW IT WELL. :)

Both the Serbian and Russian visa was essentially an option many travelers did opt for because they had bogus vauchers and the consulates knew, these bogus vauchers are worth nothing - but did exchange them for a REAL visa for a nominal fee.

Please read the current cases of Russian citizens traveling to Serbia:

http://www.serbiatravelers.org/forum/index.php?topic=159.0

An other link:
http://www.utro.ru/articles/2008/03/07/721894.shtml

"До сих пор для въезда в Сербию граждане России должны были поставить в паспорт визу, приобрести туристический ваучер или получить специальное приглашение."

Please read precisely the wording! "... визу, приобрести туристический ваучер ИЛИ получить специальное приглашение", again: "ИЛИ". That "ИЛИ" is a known practice.

The third link:

http://www.ruswiss.ch/club/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=1&t=31347

"Они уже давно отменили его де-факто. Ни разу не получал югославскую визу, всегда один и тот же диалог: "Виза есть?" - "Нет!" - "Молодец, проходи!"

What is the practice in the opposite direction?

Here we can read:

http://russia.russian-visas.net/travel-without-a-visa.html

Basically... citizens of Cuba can enter Russia on better condition than citizens of Serbia, Crna Gora, Croatia, Macedonia, Bosnia. But still, they don't need visa. This is an old document, nothing new.

It looks either like the Russian and Serbian foreign ministers are not quite sure, what is the current practice... or essentially CRACKED DOWN on the current very relaxed visa regime.

Why is the "crack-down"? Because both Russia and Serbia will demand now at the border the ORIGINAL invitation/vaucher. Why this does not make any sense? Because Russians who want to enter Serbia without any vaucher can do it via Crna Gora traveling by train. And Serbian citizens can do the same traveling via Belarus for precisely the same reason: no border control and it's legal now. So who wants to enter without visa/invitation/vaucher will do it like before. For others it's a pain.

Hence: a nonsense continues, both countries issued a neat press releases but it got actually WORSE. We don't need "quasi-measures", this is called "ОЧКОВТИРАТЕЛьСТВО" (= "just cleaning the glasses", "B.S." in US-English).

Dear B92, please make as much noise as you can. I don't think there is a lack of goodwill but the incompetence of both sides makes me pull my hair out. :(

If such simple things are going so incompetent way... I can name at least one topic Serbian and Russian government has to discuss ASAP - which is more difficult than a visa/vaucher practice for tourists. OK, will go and see you as usual with my American or E.U. passport and end of story. Much simpler.

THESE VAUCHERS AND INVITATIONS HAVE TO GO DOWN THE TOILET!

Hey Peggy, Thaqi deep inside hopes that Serbia allows Russian to build military bases in Serbia and that soon you create a Russia/Serbia Federation and may you never wish to join the EU. Hopefully next month Russian will be an official language in Serbia to deepen your ties until death separates you. Best of luck!

It's time Serbs developed very close ties with Russia and this is a very positive step.
For too long Serbia and Russia have been kept apart. Finally Serbia has come out of the darkness and realized that there is no substitute for family. By all means, trade with the world and make friends but there is only one big brother you can rely on.

Serbia's leaders should not be allowed to put obsticles in the way of this friendship.
Politicians like Tadic who made it clear to Russia that there will be no freign bases in Serbia must be removed. I didn't hear the same words coming from Thaci. So Serbia's neightbours can get close to the very people who are plotting Seriba's fall but Serbia should keep their friends out of their life.

All I can say is. Long live Russian/Serbian brotherhood.

Hey Peggy, Thaqi deep inside hopes that Serbia allows Russian to build military bases in Serbia and that soon you create a Russia/Serbia Federation and may you never wish to join the EU. Hopefully next month Russian will be an official language in Serbia to deepen your ties until death separates you. Best of luck!

One good turn deserves another ! Even the fact that we are welcomed in Serbia may boost not only tourism but real investments too. Very often Russian business is considered to be the most risky in Europe.

Odi, Russia/China alliance is getting stronger by the day and many countries are waiting to join it. NATO is weakening due to being over stretched but Russian alliance is just taking off.

I seriously dobut that your Thaci would like this alliance to be a reality so close to him. Too close for comfort.

Look down on Russia all you like, but that's all you can do. Look. You will never be admitted to the club.

Don't think for once second that Europe is going to be united ever over anything. That's why they will always be weak and get weaker as their masters from US get weaker.

He who laughs last....

You know what I mean.

Well, if THAT is what Serbian or Russian government does propose, it's nearly a bogus. I am very upset.

Citizens of Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia, Crna Gora and to my best knowledge also Bosnia can travel to Russia without visa: if they have invitation or vaucher. There is nothing new.
Same is in the opposite direction. I know it pretty well and during the time of SFRJ I HAD TO KNOW IT WELL. :)

Both the Serbian and Russian visa was essentially an option many travelers did opt for because they had bogus vauchers and the consulates knew, these bogus vauchers are worth nothing - but did exchange them for a REAL visa for a nominal fee.

Please read the current cases of Russian citizens traveling to Serbia:

http://www.serbiatravelers.org/forum/index.php?topic=159.0

An other link:
http://www.utro.ru/articles/2008/03/07/721894.shtml

"До сих пор для въезда в Сербию граждане России должны были поставить в паспорт визу, приобрести туристический ваучер или получить специальное приглашение."

Please read precisely the wording! "... визу, приобрести туристический ваучер ИЛИ получить специальное приглашение", again: "ИЛИ". That "ИЛИ" is a known practice.

The third link:

http://www.ruswiss.ch/club/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=1&t=31347

"Они уже давно отменили его де-факто. Ни разу не получал югославскую визу, всегда один и тот же диалог: "Виза есть?" - "Нет!" - "Молодец, проходи!"

What is the practice in the opposite direction?

Here we can read:

http://russia.russian-visas.net/travel-without-a-visa.html

Basically... citizens of Cuba can enter Russia on better condition than citizens of Serbia, Crna Gora, Croatia, Macedonia, Bosnia. But still, they don't need visa. This is an old document, nothing new.

It looks either like the Russian and Serbian foreign ministers are not quite sure, what is the current practice... or essentially CRACKED DOWN on the current very relaxed visa regime.

Why is the "crack-down"? Because both Russia and Serbia will demand now at the border the ORIGINAL invitation/vaucher. Why this does not make any sense? Because Russians who want to enter Serbia without any vaucher can do it via Crna Gora traveling by train. And Serbian citizens can do the same traveling via Belarus for precisely the same reason: no border control and it's legal now. So who wants to enter without visa/invitation/vaucher will do it like before. For others it's a pain.

Hence: a nonsense continues, both countries issued a neat press releases but it got actually WORSE. We don't need "quasi-measures", this is called "ОЧКОВТИРАТЕЛьСТВО" (= "just cleaning the glasses", "B.S." in US-English).

Dear B92, please make as much noise as you can. I don't think there is a lack of goodwill but the incompetence of both sides makes me pull my hair out. :(

If such simple things are going so incompetent way... I can name at least one topic Serbian and Russian government has to discuss ASAP - which is more difficult than a visa/vaucher practice for tourists. OK, will go and see you as usual with my American or E.U. passport and end of story. Much simpler.

THESE VAUCHERS AND INVITATIONS HAVE TO GO DOWN THE TOILET!