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Tuesday, 04.03.2008.

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"Russian troops won't return to Kosovo"

Russia’s envoy to NATO Dmitry Rogozin says it’s unrealistic for Russian troops and police to return to Kosovo.

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kika

pre 16 godina

I will not bother to explain wether recognizing Kosovo was right or wrong, the time will show how the situation will develop.
The USA is supporting this decision rigth now together with a large number of european (nato) countries.
Still, the opinion of neighboring countries on this matter and everything else regarding Kosovo has been arogantly ignored, which is a bad sign indeed.
Albanians will still have to live with their neighbours after all and currently they are showing no will to improve their relations, thinking that the US will eternaly support them.
I do not have to remind people on Albanian policy in the past 100 years, eurolex, UDI and a little propaganda can not change to lokal mentality of anyone.
The feeling that they are surrounded by "orthodox enemies" is still there and this is somthing that has not been changed.
BTW The opinion that the US gouverment has made a mess in Iraq and Afganistan, but Kosovo is a succes story, is based on only one fact, that the majority in Kosovo are Albanians and they refuse to live under any kind of Serbian rule, completly ignoring all other aspects of the Kosovo problem.

adrian, timisoara, romania

pre 16 godina

"If you want to speak about our ties with Serbia, it's ok, because they are REAL, but don't ever speak about "ties" between Romania and Soviet Union, because you insult most Romanians."

Razvan, i`m sure you are talking about Timok Valley "vlahs"...

Kosovar

pre 16 godina

Ali, I think you should go back to school and learn some math. You don't have the majority of the world behind you. The Serbs do.
(Peggy)

a. 75 % of WOrld Economic Strenght,

b. 80% of World Military expenditure expenditure-thus strenght

c. they together have far more weight on world political decision than the world together combined...

Unlike simple I think is (more a)"creative maths".

Razvan, Bucharest, Romania

pre 16 godina

Sirius Black said: "If we take this as an analogy, the way Serbia is going, and when it eventually realizes that it should turn to the West, it will be like let's say Romania was after it cut its ties with Russia (at the end of the cold war)."

Sirius, what are you talking about? What ties did Romania have with Soviet Union? If you speak about Russia during the cold war, then you mean Soviet Union, right? Our former president Nicolae Ceausescu was a Dictator who defied Soviet Union. Read about the events from 1968, read about the Most Favoured Nation status offered by United States to Romania, read about the Los Angeles Olympic Games from 1984, etc., etc. While I was a kid it was very difficult to study Russian language in Romania. And you speak about Romania's ties to Soviet Union?

If you want to speak about our ties with Serbia, it's ok, because they are REAL, but don't ever speak about "ties" between Romania and Soviet Union, because you insult most Romanians.

Serbia was thrown in the arms of Russia by the disastrous politics of the United States. This is another "success" of the Bush Administration.

Viorel

pre 16 godina

To Mr. blero (blero, 4 March 2008 12:17)

1. I can see that you have gone to extremes of copying other people’s opinions on the matter. But can you please tell me why?
I did an interesting research on internet about this important question: "Is Kosovo a unique case ?". A week ago for the topic "Kosovo" "unique case" there were only several articles. Today with Google-news you'll find about 139 articles. Different people with different opinions.

2. It would be simpler if you just put the links don’t you?
I'm not accustomed with this style.

3. What do the notes you have put forward have to do in any shape or form with the actual article (Russian troops won’t return to Kosovo).
Read again the article.
...labeling Kosovo a unique case was "nonsense" [ said Dmitry Rogozin ]

4. How will the comments look if everybody does what you did (copy pages and pages of somebody else’s notes).
I did not copy pages, but several lines. Sometimes, the opinions expressed in foreign journals are more important that the news itself. ( !! )

5. I thought that this is where people write their own thoughts ( unless you run an advertisement section).
I already wrote my opinion in B92. Here are the numbers: 47448, 47575, 47688, 47864, (48029).

6. You know that “your” comment is actually longer that the article itself.
Yes, I do. Sorry !

Mr. blero, in Romania the ethnic Hungarians from Harghita, Covasna and Mures want to have ( territorial ) autonomy, even though the party UDMR ( Union Democratic of Magyars from Romania ) have been in guvernment for the last 12 years. Is Kosovo a unique case ? Of course, not ! There are over a hundred places in the World affected by the decision of accepting unilateral independence ( like Kosovo ). The Kosovo preceding will drop the World in a big turmoil. That is my opinion !

Viorel

Statistician

pre 16 godina

Hi, Peggy

If you put the countrie in terms of their political ,military and economic power into a distribution, those 40 countries, or so, would significantly skew the distribution in the kosovo's direction:)

Razvan, Bucharest, Romania

pre 16 godina

Sirius Black said: "If we take this as an analogy, the way Serbia is going, and when it eventually realizes that it should turn to the West, it will be like let's say Romania was after it cut its ties with Russia (at the end of the cold war)."

Sirius, what are you talking about? What ties did Romania have with Soviet Union? If you speak about Russia during the cold war, then you mean Soviet Union, right? Our former president Nicolae Ceausescu was a Dictator who defied Soviet Union. Read about the events from 1968, read about the Most Favoured Nation status offered by United States to Romania, read about the Los Angeles Olympic Games from 1984, etc., etc. While I was a kid it was very difficult to study Russian language in Romania. And you speak about Romania's ties to Soviet Union?

If you want to speak about our ties with Serbia, it's ok, because they are REAL, but don't ever speak about "ties" between Romania and Soviet Union, because you insult most Romanians.

Serbia was thrown in the arms of Russia by the disastrous politics of the United States. This is another "success" of the Bush Administration.

fatmir Kosova

pre 16 godina

Rogozin got something righ,rusia must accept kosovos independence first,after if kosovars allow them to come to kosovo within comand of eulex,otherwise this is just a dream,a very sweet dream for serbia.

Peggy

pre 16 godina

Ali, I think you should go back to school and learn some math. You don't have the majority of the world behind you. The Serbs do.

25-40 countries out of 200 is not a majority. I wish the Albanians would stop saying things like they have the majority of the world.

Wake up Albnians. How can 40 out of 200 be a majority?

ORTHODOX.RU

pre 16 godina

If Rogozin were not a diplomat but the Russian President you'd arlredy have there our air borne troops together with S-300 ani aircraft missiles. Very few Russians will dobt it. Because of his radicalism he has found himself in Brussels ... With all my respect to Mr. Nicolic compared with Mr.Rogozin he is just a dove of peace no more !

However Rogozin just said what he has said. And the short and the long of it is that the Serbs can handle the military challenges they may meet. At least he knows that once landed the Yankees are no longer invinsible and that the Europeans cannot afford losses exceeding one regiment. Besides he is aware that the Germans may tell them what Serbian guerillas are while the Italians will recollect of the 5 Italian divisions captured in Adriatics.

As for me personally I consider even a Russian military base negotiations would be be a good moral support to stimulate the US for a compromise over Kosovo and urge on EU for sooner integration of Serbia.

GOSPODI BLAGOSLAVI SERBIJU !

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

miri,
on the contrary your statement"I would like to draw attention to this comment to the foreigners that comment on this site, since for us it has been clear from the start.
(miri, 4 March 2008 17:51) "

is incorrect. Without foreign posters on this B92 website we would not have good objective comments. However, i am given the impression by all Albanian posters here that the demise of Serbia's Kosovo was the Serbian States fault. I have never read any positive statement about the good of the Serbian People and their contributions to the Alabanian People. The only vibe a receive from reading Alabanian posts are a pure wish for all that is bad to Serbia and it's citizens. How do you think the future relationship between Serbs and Albanians are to going to positively develop when Serbia's land is stripped from her with Force.

BKK

pre 16 godina

nikshala,

Serbs didn't make Kosovo human/drug trafficking central. K-Albanian mafia did.
Kosovo is Serbian land. Always has been and always will be. There can be million unilateral declarations of independence, by every single generations of Albanians, the fact will always remain that Kosovo is Serbia.

Why Serbia wants to keep it? Because it is Serbia's land. Because Serbia is sovereign country with internationally recognized borders.
Because International law must be upheld in order for societies to function. Because it is Serbia's right to its own land.
Because rule of the law must prevail over the rule of mob.
Because you cannot take what is not yours.

Israelis went into a desert and built an impressive city out of dirt and sand. Albanians left the 1000 year old architectures in ruins.

We cannot deny the state Kosovo is in. It is reported by Amnesty International that the human abuses and sex trafficking of girls and women is a common practice in Kosovo since 1999.

Do check it for yourself.

in 2004 http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/EUR70/010/2004
Jan 08 http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/justice-failed-kosovo-20080130

Jovan z

pre 16 godina

I did not think Russia would do anything past talking and providing lip service.Just as the destruction of Jugoslavia was a precident for other things so is Kosova and we are truly on our own.No Serbian security forces no Russians no resistance from anyone so it is no surprise that the Albanians and NATO will do what they want when they want.

Pejoni

pre 16 godina

Russia has a big mouth when adressing the IC, but when it comes to get some dirt they back of, as they did back in -99. At least the Americans keep their words, even if it means going against all.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

In response to your statement
"If thats the case, why would Serbia want to keep Kosovo?"
Serbs only want the land that belongs to them. Albanians are free to return to Democratic Albania and stimulate their own growth and enhance it's own
culture, religion and terrorism.

miri

pre 16 godina

"Serbs only want the land that belongs to them. Albanians are free to return to Democratic Albania and stimulate their own growth and enhance it's own
culture, religion and terrorism."

This comment sums up all that is behind the current Serbian government policy.
Thanks for pointing that out.

I would like to draw attention to this comment to the foreigners that comment on this site, since for us it has been clear from the start.

Afrim Hoxha

pre 16 godina

"Russian troops won't return to Kosovo" Rogozin.
Wow what a blow to serbian politicians, especially to Kostunica.
Finally even officially Russians are saying that it is unrealistic to send troops to Kosova.
Well I am sure that serb commentators will try to spin this somehow but the obvious is obviously obvious.

Sirius Black

pre 16 godina

I don't understand why would Serbia want to isolate itself from EU and US and become Russia's ally?

Just look at the countries that willingly or not sided with Russia after the WWII. Although some are in the EU today, they are very much behind (economically) than those European countries (Greece for example) that remained with the West.

If we take this as an analogy, the way Serbia is going, and when it eventually realizes that it should turn to the West, it will be like let's say Romania was after it cut its ties with Russia (at the end of the cold war).

God bless ....

Cvele

pre 16 godina

“If someone takes Serbia’s territory from it, then Serbia has the right to seek compensation for that loss, including the Republic of Srpska, as the rule of state borders’ inviolability has been abandoned and those who have recognized Kosovo must bear this in mind,“ he warned.

Heads up! I would be very careful now if I were a dumb western nation. Serbs and Russians have done and are doing nothing to provoke the situation. They are playing it very smart. Only a matter of time before the albans realize they are and will always be Serbian citizens.

miri

pre 16 godina

About Viorel's comment.

You know; We could bring hundred times more articles that support independence but this is not the point here man!!

Now back to the article itself.

Rogozin has nor political power, neither any kind of decisive position. He is just a hologram of Russia's military pretensions. Even his post is useless, when you think about it, Ambasasor to NATO!?? To do what??!!
But than again, by his speeches you can read between the lines on how Russia is retracting its feet. Apparently his article shuts off all the speculations that Russia will go to full scale war over Kosova. At least we won't hear this argument anymore.

Kosovar

pre 16 godina

Naturally not.
They are unwanted in Serbia proper let alone in Kosovo. Who wants them and why???? Let them restore Russia before they are allowed to restore other countries.

nikshala

pre 16 godina

Kosovo is already deemed as a terrorist haven.
It is a main route for human trafficking and drugs import from the Middle East, and now a sleeping cell for Wahabbis.
Numerous Saudi sponsored mosques are under suspicion by the West to be operated by Jihadists.
The explosives used in the 7/7 bombing in London were purchesed via Kosovo.
Like I said, this recognition of UDI will only come back and bite those who forecefully made it happen then recognized it.
(BKK, 4 March 2008 12:43)

If thats the case, why would Serbia want to keep Kosovo? If Serbia's intetion is to let albanians rule themselves, and if albanians as you claim are supporters of terrorist who want to bomb the west (which in itself doesn't make sense since our supporters are from the west), then why would serbia want to keep Kosovo? It doesn't make any sense, does it?

If you want to spread propaganda at least try and be serious. you can say stuff about corruption or organised crime, but once you try bring Al-qaeda, jihadist etc etc. then your whole argument is exposed for what it is - plain propaganda.

When you think about it there are quite some similarities between Serbia and Iran (burning of US flags, burning of Embassy, close relations with Russia, anti-western propaganda).

The only religious extremism is coming from the serb side. It its the serbian leaders that go for blessings by orthodox preists everytime they make a speech or desicion about Kosovo, and it is the serbs themselves that try and make this issue into a religious one. You never hear albanians refer to serbs as christians or bringing Islam into it- thats because albanians are probably the most secular society in the Balkans or even Europe.

If the explosives were purchased via Kosovo (first time I heard such a claim), they couldn't have fallen there from the moon, they must have passed through hother countries including Greece, or Bulgaria, or Romania, or Macedonia, and guess what, even Serbia - so the whole region is a transit route for illegal items coming from east.

ali

pre 16 godina

"The good news here is that Serbia is not weak and isolated like Colombia was at the time - we have most of the world behind us, including a resurgent and powerfull Russia"

Dragan wakeup!!!!!

not weak!!
not isolated!!
most of the world behind us!!

Dragan

pre 16 godina

He is absolutely right about Republika Srpska, but no worries there. Bosnia is another fake state that was doomed from its inception and will eventually splinter.
He is also bang on about Kosovo not being unique, or 'sui generis'. If fact, when Colombia refused to let the Americans build the Panama canal in 1903, guess what the Americans did? They created a new state called 'Panama' and put their puppets in charge of it, then built the Panama canal.
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/099.shtml
So the argument that Kosovo is 'sui generis' is a joke. Imperialists never seem to change their ways. The good news here is that Serbia is not weak and isolated like Colombia was at the time - we have most of the world behind us, including a resurgent and powerfull Russia.
Cheers!

BKK

pre 16 godina

Kosovo is already deemed as a terrorist haven.
It is a main route for human trafficking and drugs import from the Middle East, and now a sleeping cell for Wahabbis.
Numerous Saudi sponsored mosques are under suspicion by the West to be operated by Jihadists.
The explosives used in the 7/7 bombing in London were purchesed via Kosovo.
Like I said, this recognition of UDI will only come back and bite those who forecefully made it happen then recognized it.

blero

pre 16 godina

(Viorel, 4 March 2008 10:43)

1. I can see that you have gone to extremes of copying other people’s opinions on the matter. But can you please tell me why?
2. It would be simpler if you just put the links don’t you?
3. What do the notes you have put forward have to do in any shape or form with the actual article (Russian troops won’t return to Kosovo).
4. How will the comments look if everybody does what you did (copy pages and pages of somebody else’s notes).
5. I thought that this is where people write their own thoughts (unless you run an advertisement section).
6. You know that “your” comment is actually longer that the article itself.

Viorel

pre 16 godina

s Kosovo a unique case ? ( Part 2 )

Another risk is that Kosovo, the poorest region in Europe, will become a failed state and possibly a terrorist haven. Its economy would have stopped functioning long ago without life support from the United Nations, the European Union and the United States. Even if Kosovar officials were economic wizards, they would have a hard time meeting popular expectations, which have soared with independence. Moreover, the ethnic divide will likely intensify. The prospect of further violent clashes between Serbs and Albanians seems all too real, and Thaci's government may respond with ethnic cleansing.
Having recognized Kosovo's independence with almost no public debate, Washington and its friends in Western Europe should be on their guard. Be careful what you wish for. ( Welcome to Kosovo, the Next Failed State? by Mark Kramer - Washington Post )

Kosovo is a hard case but it is making bad law. Kosovo makes bad law for possible Scottish secession ( Bob Ayling - Financial Times )

Moreover, Europe will see a parade of sovereignties - no self-proclaimed state will consider Kosovo a unique case. The Security Council will be flooded with requests from territories which will also want to secede from multi-ethnic or multi-religious countries. Recognition of Kosovo's independence will also encourage others to adopt the Albanian-style terrorist methods - murders and forced evacuation of the non-Albanian population, burning of houses, and detonation of Christian cultural monuments. Today, the whole world is fighting against terrorism, but why not in Kosovo? ( Yelena Guskova - RIA Novosti )

“Kosovo cannot be a precedent for the other conflicts including Nagorno-Karabakh,” Joachim Rucker said. (Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General in Kosovo ) Tim Guldimann, the head of the OSCE mission also said that Kosovo is a sui generis issue and therefore there is a need to view it separately from other issues.( Trend News )

Kosovo's declaration of independence is "unique" and does not set a precedent for other separatist movements in Europe, David Miliband has said. ( BBC - News )

The inevitable and predictable result will be both to inflame the situation in the Balkans (which has been reasonably peaceful in recent years) and to set a really bad precedent for international law. This is diplomacy at its most inept.
( New York Times - Stanley A. Bowker )

I conclude that some people ignore the international law, while many other are extremly worried.

Viorel

Viorel

pre 16 godina

s Kosovo a unique case ? ( Part 2 )

Another risk is that Kosovo, the poorest region in Europe, will become a failed state and possibly a terrorist haven. Its economy would have stopped functioning long ago without life support from the United Nations, the European Union and the United States. Even if Kosovar officials were economic wizards, they would have a hard time meeting popular expectations, which have soared with independence. Moreover, the ethnic divide will likely intensify. The prospect of further violent clashes between Serbs and Albanians seems all too real, and Thaci's government may respond with ethnic cleansing.
Having recognized Kosovo's independence with almost no public debate, Washington and its friends in Western Europe should be on their guard. Be careful what you wish for. ( Welcome to Kosovo, the Next Failed State? by Mark Kramer - Washington Post )

Kosovo is a hard case but it is making bad law. Kosovo makes bad law for possible Scottish secession ( Bob Ayling - Financial Times )

Moreover, Europe will see a parade of sovereignties - no self-proclaimed state will consider Kosovo a unique case. The Security Council will be flooded with requests from territories which will also want to secede from multi-ethnic or multi-religious countries. Recognition of Kosovo's independence will also encourage others to adopt the Albanian-style terrorist methods - murders and forced evacuation of the non-Albanian population, burning of houses, and detonation of Christian cultural monuments. Today, the whole world is fighting against terrorism, but why not in Kosovo? ( Yelena Guskova - RIA Novosti )

“Kosovo cannot be a precedent for the other conflicts including Nagorno-Karabakh,” Joachim Rucker said. (Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General in Kosovo ) Tim Guldimann, the head of the OSCE mission also said that Kosovo is a sui generis issue and therefore there is a need to view it separately from other issues.( Trend News )

Kosovo's declaration of independence is "unique" and does not set a precedent for other separatist movements in Europe, David Miliband has said. ( BBC - News )

The inevitable and predictable result will be both to inflame the situation in the Balkans (which has been reasonably peaceful in recent years) and to set a really bad precedent for international law. This is diplomacy at its most inept.
( New York Times - Stanley A. Bowker )

I conclude that some people ignore the international law, while many other are extremly worried.

Viorel

Dragan

pre 16 godina

He is absolutely right about Republika Srpska, but no worries there. Bosnia is another fake state that was doomed from its inception and will eventually splinter.
He is also bang on about Kosovo not being unique, or 'sui generis'. If fact, when Colombia refused to let the Americans build the Panama canal in 1903, guess what the Americans did? They created a new state called 'Panama' and put their puppets in charge of it, then built the Panama canal.
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/099.shtml
So the argument that Kosovo is 'sui generis' is a joke. Imperialists never seem to change their ways. The good news here is that Serbia is not weak and isolated like Colombia was at the time - we have most of the world behind us, including a resurgent and powerfull Russia.
Cheers!

BKK

pre 16 godina

Kosovo is already deemed as a terrorist haven.
It is a main route for human trafficking and drugs import from the Middle East, and now a sleeping cell for Wahabbis.
Numerous Saudi sponsored mosques are under suspicion by the West to be operated by Jihadists.
The explosives used in the 7/7 bombing in London were purchesed via Kosovo.
Like I said, this recognition of UDI will only come back and bite those who forecefully made it happen then recognized it.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

In response to your statement
"If thats the case, why would Serbia want to keep Kosovo?"
Serbs only want the land that belongs to them. Albanians are free to return to Democratic Albania and stimulate their own growth and enhance it's own
culture, religion and terrorism.

nikshala

pre 16 godina

Kosovo is already deemed as a terrorist haven.
It is a main route for human trafficking and drugs import from the Middle East, and now a sleeping cell for Wahabbis.
Numerous Saudi sponsored mosques are under suspicion by the West to be operated by Jihadists.
The explosives used in the 7/7 bombing in London were purchesed via Kosovo.
Like I said, this recognition of UDI will only come back and bite those who forecefully made it happen then recognized it.
(BKK, 4 March 2008 12:43)

If thats the case, why would Serbia want to keep Kosovo? If Serbia's intetion is to let albanians rule themselves, and if albanians as you claim are supporters of terrorist who want to bomb the west (which in itself doesn't make sense since our supporters are from the west), then why would serbia want to keep Kosovo? It doesn't make any sense, does it?

If you want to spread propaganda at least try and be serious. you can say stuff about corruption or organised crime, but once you try bring Al-qaeda, jihadist etc etc. then your whole argument is exposed for what it is - plain propaganda.

When you think about it there are quite some similarities between Serbia and Iran (burning of US flags, burning of Embassy, close relations with Russia, anti-western propaganda).

The only religious extremism is coming from the serb side. It its the serbian leaders that go for blessings by orthodox preists everytime they make a speech or desicion about Kosovo, and it is the serbs themselves that try and make this issue into a religious one. You never hear albanians refer to serbs as christians or bringing Islam into it- thats because albanians are probably the most secular society in the Balkans or even Europe.

If the explosives were purchased via Kosovo (first time I heard such a claim), they couldn't have fallen there from the moon, they must have passed through hother countries including Greece, or Bulgaria, or Romania, or Macedonia, and guess what, even Serbia - so the whole region is a transit route for illegal items coming from east.

blero

pre 16 godina

(Viorel, 4 March 2008 10:43)

1. I can see that you have gone to extremes of copying other people’s opinions on the matter. But can you please tell me why?
2. It would be simpler if you just put the links don’t you?
3. What do the notes you have put forward have to do in any shape or form with the actual article (Russian troops won’t return to Kosovo).
4. How will the comments look if everybody does what you did (copy pages and pages of somebody else’s notes).
5. I thought that this is where people write their own thoughts (unless you run an advertisement section).
6. You know that “your” comment is actually longer that the article itself.

Cvele

pre 16 godina

“If someone takes Serbia’s territory from it, then Serbia has the right to seek compensation for that loss, including the Republic of Srpska, as the rule of state borders’ inviolability has been abandoned and those who have recognized Kosovo must bear this in mind,“ he warned.

Heads up! I would be very careful now if I were a dumb western nation. Serbs and Russians have done and are doing nothing to provoke the situation. They are playing it very smart. Only a matter of time before the albans realize they are and will always be Serbian citizens.

BKK

pre 16 godina

nikshala,

Serbs didn't make Kosovo human/drug trafficking central. K-Albanian mafia did.
Kosovo is Serbian land. Always has been and always will be. There can be million unilateral declarations of independence, by every single generations of Albanians, the fact will always remain that Kosovo is Serbia.

Why Serbia wants to keep it? Because it is Serbia's land. Because Serbia is sovereign country with internationally recognized borders.
Because International law must be upheld in order for societies to function. Because it is Serbia's right to its own land.
Because rule of the law must prevail over the rule of mob.
Because you cannot take what is not yours.

Israelis went into a desert and built an impressive city out of dirt and sand. Albanians left the 1000 year old architectures in ruins.

We cannot deny the state Kosovo is in. It is reported by Amnesty International that the human abuses and sex trafficking of girls and women is a common practice in Kosovo since 1999.

Do check it for yourself.

in 2004 http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/EUR70/010/2004
Jan 08 http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/justice-failed-kosovo-20080130

ORTHODOX.RU

pre 16 godina

If Rogozin were not a diplomat but the Russian President you'd arlredy have there our air borne troops together with S-300 ani aircraft missiles. Very few Russians will dobt it. Because of his radicalism he has found himself in Brussels ... With all my respect to Mr. Nicolic compared with Mr.Rogozin he is just a dove of peace no more !

However Rogozin just said what he has said. And the short and the long of it is that the Serbs can handle the military challenges they may meet. At least he knows that once landed the Yankees are no longer invinsible and that the Europeans cannot afford losses exceeding one regiment. Besides he is aware that the Germans may tell them what Serbian guerillas are while the Italians will recollect of the 5 Italian divisions captured in Adriatics.

As for me personally I consider even a Russian military base negotiations would be be a good moral support to stimulate the US for a compromise over Kosovo and urge on EU for sooner integration of Serbia.

GOSPODI BLAGOSLAVI SERBIJU !

Kosovar

pre 16 godina

Naturally not.
They are unwanted in Serbia proper let alone in Kosovo. Who wants them and why???? Let them restore Russia before they are allowed to restore other countries.

ali

pre 16 godina

"The good news here is that Serbia is not weak and isolated like Colombia was at the time - we have most of the world behind us, including a resurgent and powerfull Russia"

Dragan wakeup!!!!!

not weak!!
not isolated!!
most of the world behind us!!

Peggy

pre 16 godina

Ali, I think you should go back to school and learn some math. You don't have the majority of the world behind you. The Serbs do.

25-40 countries out of 200 is not a majority. I wish the Albanians would stop saying things like they have the majority of the world.

Wake up Albnians. How can 40 out of 200 be a majority?

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

miri,
on the contrary your statement"I would like to draw attention to this comment to the foreigners that comment on this site, since for us it has been clear from the start.
(miri, 4 March 2008 17:51) "

is incorrect. Without foreign posters on this B92 website we would not have good objective comments. However, i am given the impression by all Albanian posters here that the demise of Serbia's Kosovo was the Serbian States fault. I have never read any positive statement about the good of the Serbian People and their contributions to the Alabanian People. The only vibe a receive from reading Alabanian posts are a pure wish for all that is bad to Serbia and it's citizens. How do you think the future relationship between Serbs and Albanians are to going to positively develop when Serbia's land is stripped from her with Force.

miri

pre 16 godina

"Serbs only want the land that belongs to them. Albanians are free to return to Democratic Albania and stimulate their own growth and enhance it's own
culture, religion and terrorism."

This comment sums up all that is behind the current Serbian government policy.
Thanks for pointing that out.

I would like to draw attention to this comment to the foreigners that comment on this site, since for us it has been clear from the start.

Pejoni

pre 16 godina

Russia has a big mouth when adressing the IC, but when it comes to get some dirt they back of, as they did back in -99. At least the Americans keep their words, even if it means going against all.

Sirius Black

pre 16 godina

I don't understand why would Serbia want to isolate itself from EU and US and become Russia's ally?

Just look at the countries that willingly or not sided with Russia after the WWII. Although some are in the EU today, they are very much behind (economically) than those European countries (Greece for example) that remained with the West.

If we take this as an analogy, the way Serbia is going, and when it eventually realizes that it should turn to the West, it will be like let's say Romania was after it cut its ties with Russia (at the end of the cold war).

God bless ....

Afrim Hoxha

pre 16 godina

"Russian troops won't return to Kosovo" Rogozin.
Wow what a blow to serbian politicians, especially to Kostunica.
Finally even officially Russians are saying that it is unrealistic to send troops to Kosova.
Well I am sure that serb commentators will try to spin this somehow but the obvious is obviously obvious.

miri

pre 16 godina

About Viorel's comment.

You know; We could bring hundred times more articles that support independence but this is not the point here man!!

Now back to the article itself.

Rogozin has nor political power, neither any kind of decisive position. He is just a hologram of Russia's military pretensions. Even his post is useless, when you think about it, Ambasasor to NATO!?? To do what??!!
But than again, by his speeches you can read between the lines on how Russia is retracting its feet. Apparently his article shuts off all the speculations that Russia will go to full scale war over Kosova. At least we won't hear this argument anymore.

Jovan z

pre 16 godina

I did not think Russia would do anything past talking and providing lip service.Just as the destruction of Jugoslavia was a precident for other things so is Kosova and we are truly on our own.No Serbian security forces no Russians no resistance from anyone so it is no surprise that the Albanians and NATO will do what they want when they want.

fatmir Kosova

pre 16 godina

Rogozin got something righ,rusia must accept kosovos independence first,after if kosovars allow them to come to kosovo within comand of eulex,otherwise this is just a dream,a very sweet dream for serbia.

Razvan, Bucharest, Romania

pre 16 godina

Sirius Black said: "If we take this as an analogy, the way Serbia is going, and when it eventually realizes that it should turn to the West, it will be like let's say Romania was after it cut its ties with Russia (at the end of the cold war)."

Sirius, what are you talking about? What ties did Romania have with Soviet Union? If you speak about Russia during the cold war, then you mean Soviet Union, right? Our former president Nicolae Ceausescu was a Dictator who defied Soviet Union. Read about the events from 1968, read about the Most Favoured Nation status offered by United States to Romania, read about the Los Angeles Olympic Games from 1984, etc., etc. While I was a kid it was very difficult to study Russian language in Romania. And you speak about Romania's ties to Soviet Union?

If you want to speak about our ties with Serbia, it's ok, because they are REAL, but don't ever speak about "ties" between Romania and Soviet Union, because you insult most Romanians.

Serbia was thrown in the arms of Russia by the disastrous politics of the United States. This is another "success" of the Bush Administration.

Viorel

pre 16 godina

To Mr. blero (blero, 4 March 2008 12:17)

1. I can see that you have gone to extremes of copying other people’s opinions on the matter. But can you please tell me why?
I did an interesting research on internet about this important question: "Is Kosovo a unique case ?". A week ago for the topic "Kosovo" "unique case" there were only several articles. Today with Google-news you'll find about 139 articles. Different people with different opinions.

2. It would be simpler if you just put the links don’t you?
I'm not accustomed with this style.

3. What do the notes you have put forward have to do in any shape or form with the actual article (Russian troops won’t return to Kosovo).
Read again the article.
...labeling Kosovo a unique case was "nonsense" [ said Dmitry Rogozin ]

4. How will the comments look if everybody does what you did (copy pages and pages of somebody else’s notes).
I did not copy pages, but several lines. Sometimes, the opinions expressed in foreign journals are more important that the news itself. ( !! )

5. I thought that this is where people write their own thoughts ( unless you run an advertisement section).
I already wrote my opinion in B92. Here are the numbers: 47448, 47575, 47688, 47864, (48029).

6. You know that “your” comment is actually longer that the article itself.
Yes, I do. Sorry !

Mr. blero, in Romania the ethnic Hungarians from Harghita, Covasna and Mures want to have ( territorial ) autonomy, even though the party UDMR ( Union Democratic of Magyars from Romania ) have been in guvernment for the last 12 years. Is Kosovo a unique case ? Of course, not ! There are over a hundred places in the World affected by the decision of accepting unilateral independence ( like Kosovo ). The Kosovo preceding will drop the World in a big turmoil. That is my opinion !

Viorel

Razvan, Bucharest, Romania

pre 16 godina

Sirius Black said: "If we take this as an analogy, the way Serbia is going, and when it eventually realizes that it should turn to the West, it will be like let's say Romania was after it cut its ties with Russia (at the end of the cold war)."

Sirius, what are you talking about? What ties did Romania have with Soviet Union? If you speak about Russia during the cold war, then you mean Soviet Union, right? Our former president Nicolae Ceausescu was a Dictator who defied Soviet Union. Read about the events from 1968, read about the Most Favoured Nation status offered by United States to Romania, read about the Los Angeles Olympic Games from 1984, etc., etc. While I was a kid it was very difficult to study Russian language in Romania. And you speak about Romania's ties to Soviet Union?

If you want to speak about our ties with Serbia, it's ok, because they are REAL, but don't ever speak about "ties" between Romania and Soviet Union, because you insult most Romanians.

Serbia was thrown in the arms of Russia by the disastrous politics of the United States. This is another "success" of the Bush Administration.

kika

pre 16 godina

I will not bother to explain wether recognizing Kosovo was right or wrong, the time will show how the situation will develop.
The USA is supporting this decision rigth now together with a large number of european (nato) countries.
Still, the opinion of neighboring countries on this matter and everything else regarding Kosovo has been arogantly ignored, which is a bad sign indeed.
Albanians will still have to live with their neighbours after all and currently they are showing no will to improve their relations, thinking that the US will eternaly support them.
I do not have to remind people on Albanian policy in the past 100 years, eurolex, UDI and a little propaganda can not change to lokal mentality of anyone.
The feeling that they are surrounded by "orthodox enemies" is still there and this is somthing that has not been changed.
BTW The opinion that the US gouverment has made a mess in Iraq and Afganistan, but Kosovo is a succes story, is based on only one fact, that the majority in Kosovo are Albanians and they refuse to live under any kind of Serbian rule, completly ignoring all other aspects of the Kosovo problem.

Statistician

pre 16 godina

Hi, Peggy

If you put the countrie in terms of their political ,military and economic power into a distribution, those 40 countries, or so, would significantly skew the distribution in the kosovo's direction:)

Kosovar

pre 16 godina

Ali, I think you should go back to school and learn some math. You don't have the majority of the world behind you. The Serbs do.
(Peggy)

a. 75 % of WOrld Economic Strenght,

b. 80% of World Military expenditure expenditure-thus strenght

c. they together have far more weight on world political decision than the world together combined...

Unlike simple I think is (more a)"creative maths".

adrian, timisoara, romania

pre 16 godina

"If you want to speak about our ties with Serbia, it's ok, because they are REAL, but don't ever speak about "ties" between Romania and Soviet Union, because you insult most Romanians."

Razvan, i`m sure you are talking about Timok Valley "vlahs"...

blero

pre 16 godina

(Viorel, 4 March 2008 10:43)

1. I can see that you have gone to extremes of copying other people’s opinions on the matter. But can you please tell me why?
2. It would be simpler if you just put the links don’t you?
3. What do the notes you have put forward have to do in any shape or form with the actual article (Russian troops won’t return to Kosovo).
4. How will the comments look if everybody does what you did (copy pages and pages of somebody else’s notes).
5. I thought that this is where people write their own thoughts (unless you run an advertisement section).
6. You know that “your” comment is actually longer that the article itself.

ali

pre 16 godina

"The good news here is that Serbia is not weak and isolated like Colombia was at the time - we have most of the world behind us, including a resurgent and powerfull Russia"

Dragan wakeup!!!!!

not weak!!
not isolated!!
most of the world behind us!!

miri

pre 16 godina

About Viorel's comment.

You know; We could bring hundred times more articles that support independence but this is not the point here man!!

Now back to the article itself.

Rogozin has nor political power, neither any kind of decisive position. He is just a hologram of Russia's military pretensions. Even his post is useless, when you think about it, Ambasasor to NATO!?? To do what??!!
But than again, by his speeches you can read between the lines on how Russia is retracting its feet. Apparently his article shuts off all the speculations that Russia will go to full scale war over Kosova. At least we won't hear this argument anymore.

nikshala

pre 16 godina

Kosovo is already deemed as a terrorist haven.
It is a main route for human trafficking and drugs import from the Middle East, and now a sleeping cell for Wahabbis.
Numerous Saudi sponsored mosques are under suspicion by the West to be operated by Jihadists.
The explosives used in the 7/7 bombing in London were purchesed via Kosovo.
Like I said, this recognition of UDI will only come back and bite those who forecefully made it happen then recognized it.
(BKK, 4 March 2008 12:43)

If thats the case, why would Serbia want to keep Kosovo? If Serbia's intetion is to let albanians rule themselves, and if albanians as you claim are supporters of terrorist who want to bomb the west (which in itself doesn't make sense since our supporters are from the west), then why would serbia want to keep Kosovo? It doesn't make any sense, does it?

If you want to spread propaganda at least try and be serious. you can say stuff about corruption or organised crime, but once you try bring Al-qaeda, jihadist etc etc. then your whole argument is exposed for what it is - plain propaganda.

When you think about it there are quite some similarities between Serbia and Iran (burning of US flags, burning of Embassy, close relations with Russia, anti-western propaganda).

The only religious extremism is coming from the serb side. It its the serbian leaders that go for blessings by orthodox preists everytime they make a speech or desicion about Kosovo, and it is the serbs themselves that try and make this issue into a religious one. You never hear albanians refer to serbs as christians or bringing Islam into it- thats because albanians are probably the most secular society in the Balkans or even Europe.

If the explosives were purchased via Kosovo (first time I heard such a claim), they couldn't have fallen there from the moon, they must have passed through hother countries including Greece, or Bulgaria, or Romania, or Macedonia, and guess what, even Serbia - so the whole region is a transit route for illegal items coming from east.

Kosovar

pre 16 godina

Naturally not.
They are unwanted in Serbia proper let alone in Kosovo. Who wants them and why???? Let them restore Russia before they are allowed to restore other countries.

miri

pre 16 godina

"Serbs only want the land that belongs to them. Albanians are free to return to Democratic Albania and stimulate their own growth and enhance it's own
culture, religion and terrorism."

This comment sums up all that is behind the current Serbian government policy.
Thanks for pointing that out.

I would like to draw attention to this comment to the foreigners that comment on this site, since for us it has been clear from the start.

Sirius Black

pre 16 godina

I don't understand why would Serbia want to isolate itself from EU and US and become Russia's ally?

Just look at the countries that willingly or not sided with Russia after the WWII. Although some are in the EU today, they are very much behind (economically) than those European countries (Greece for example) that remained with the West.

If we take this as an analogy, the way Serbia is going, and when it eventually realizes that it should turn to the West, it will be like let's say Romania was after it cut its ties with Russia (at the end of the cold war).

God bless ....

Afrim Hoxha

pre 16 godina

"Russian troops won't return to Kosovo" Rogozin.
Wow what a blow to serbian politicians, especially to Kostunica.
Finally even officially Russians are saying that it is unrealistic to send troops to Kosova.
Well I am sure that serb commentators will try to spin this somehow but the obvious is obviously obvious.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

In response to your statement
"If thats the case, why would Serbia want to keep Kosovo?"
Serbs only want the land that belongs to them. Albanians are free to return to Democratic Albania and stimulate their own growth and enhance it's own
culture, religion and terrorism.

BKK

pre 16 godina

Kosovo is already deemed as a terrorist haven.
It is a main route for human trafficking and drugs import from the Middle East, and now a sleeping cell for Wahabbis.
Numerous Saudi sponsored mosques are under suspicion by the West to be operated by Jihadists.
The explosives used in the 7/7 bombing in London were purchesed via Kosovo.
Like I said, this recognition of UDI will only come back and bite those who forecefully made it happen then recognized it.

Pejoni

pre 16 godina

Russia has a big mouth when adressing the IC, but when it comes to get some dirt they back of, as they did back in -99. At least the Americans keep their words, even if it means going against all.

fatmir Kosova

pre 16 godina

Rogozin got something righ,rusia must accept kosovos independence first,after if kosovars allow them to come to kosovo within comand of eulex,otherwise this is just a dream,a very sweet dream for serbia.

Viorel

pre 16 godina

s Kosovo a unique case ? ( Part 2 )

Another risk is that Kosovo, the poorest region in Europe, will become a failed state and possibly a terrorist haven. Its economy would have stopped functioning long ago without life support from the United Nations, the European Union and the United States. Even if Kosovar officials were economic wizards, they would have a hard time meeting popular expectations, which have soared with independence. Moreover, the ethnic divide will likely intensify. The prospect of further violent clashes between Serbs and Albanians seems all too real, and Thaci's government may respond with ethnic cleansing.
Having recognized Kosovo's independence with almost no public debate, Washington and its friends in Western Europe should be on their guard. Be careful what you wish for. ( Welcome to Kosovo, the Next Failed State? by Mark Kramer - Washington Post )

Kosovo is a hard case but it is making bad law. Kosovo makes bad law for possible Scottish secession ( Bob Ayling - Financial Times )

Moreover, Europe will see a parade of sovereignties - no self-proclaimed state will consider Kosovo a unique case. The Security Council will be flooded with requests from territories which will also want to secede from multi-ethnic or multi-religious countries. Recognition of Kosovo's independence will also encourage others to adopt the Albanian-style terrorist methods - murders and forced evacuation of the non-Albanian population, burning of houses, and detonation of Christian cultural monuments. Today, the whole world is fighting against terrorism, but why not in Kosovo? ( Yelena Guskova - RIA Novosti )

“Kosovo cannot be a precedent for the other conflicts including Nagorno-Karabakh,” Joachim Rucker said. (Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General in Kosovo ) Tim Guldimann, the head of the OSCE mission also said that Kosovo is a sui generis issue and therefore there is a need to view it separately from other issues.( Trend News )

Kosovo's declaration of independence is "unique" and does not set a precedent for other separatist movements in Europe, David Miliband has said. ( BBC - News )

The inevitable and predictable result will be both to inflame the situation in the Balkans (which has been reasonably peaceful in recent years) and to set a really bad precedent for international law. This is diplomacy at its most inept.
( New York Times - Stanley A. Bowker )

I conclude that some people ignore the international law, while many other are extremly worried.

Viorel

Cvele

pre 16 godina

“If someone takes Serbia’s territory from it, then Serbia has the right to seek compensation for that loss, including the Republic of Srpska, as the rule of state borders’ inviolability has been abandoned and those who have recognized Kosovo must bear this in mind,“ he warned.

Heads up! I would be very careful now if I were a dumb western nation. Serbs and Russians have done and are doing nothing to provoke the situation. They are playing it very smart. Only a matter of time before the albans realize they are and will always be Serbian citizens.

Dragan

pre 16 godina

He is absolutely right about Republika Srpska, but no worries there. Bosnia is another fake state that was doomed from its inception and will eventually splinter.
He is also bang on about Kosovo not being unique, or 'sui generis'. If fact, when Colombia refused to let the Americans build the Panama canal in 1903, guess what the Americans did? They created a new state called 'Panama' and put their puppets in charge of it, then built the Panama canal.
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/099.shtml
So the argument that Kosovo is 'sui generis' is a joke. Imperialists never seem to change their ways. The good news here is that Serbia is not weak and isolated like Colombia was at the time - we have most of the world behind us, including a resurgent and powerfull Russia.
Cheers!

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

miri,
on the contrary your statement"I would like to draw attention to this comment to the foreigners that comment on this site, since for us it has been clear from the start.
(miri, 4 March 2008 17:51) "

is incorrect. Without foreign posters on this B92 website we would not have good objective comments. However, i am given the impression by all Albanian posters here that the demise of Serbia's Kosovo was the Serbian States fault. I have never read any positive statement about the good of the Serbian People and their contributions to the Alabanian People. The only vibe a receive from reading Alabanian posts are a pure wish for all that is bad to Serbia and it's citizens. How do you think the future relationship between Serbs and Albanians are to going to positively develop when Serbia's land is stripped from her with Force.

BKK

pre 16 godina

nikshala,

Serbs didn't make Kosovo human/drug trafficking central. K-Albanian mafia did.
Kosovo is Serbian land. Always has been and always will be. There can be million unilateral declarations of independence, by every single generations of Albanians, the fact will always remain that Kosovo is Serbia.

Why Serbia wants to keep it? Because it is Serbia's land. Because Serbia is sovereign country with internationally recognized borders.
Because International law must be upheld in order for societies to function. Because it is Serbia's right to its own land.
Because rule of the law must prevail over the rule of mob.
Because you cannot take what is not yours.

Israelis went into a desert and built an impressive city out of dirt and sand. Albanians left the 1000 year old architectures in ruins.

We cannot deny the state Kosovo is in. It is reported by Amnesty International that the human abuses and sex trafficking of girls and women is a common practice in Kosovo since 1999.

Do check it for yourself.

in 2004 http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/EUR70/010/2004
Jan 08 http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/justice-failed-kosovo-20080130

ORTHODOX.RU

pre 16 godina

If Rogozin were not a diplomat but the Russian President you'd arlredy have there our air borne troops together with S-300 ani aircraft missiles. Very few Russians will dobt it. Because of his radicalism he has found himself in Brussels ... With all my respect to Mr. Nicolic compared with Mr.Rogozin he is just a dove of peace no more !

However Rogozin just said what he has said. And the short and the long of it is that the Serbs can handle the military challenges they may meet. At least he knows that once landed the Yankees are no longer invinsible and that the Europeans cannot afford losses exceeding one regiment. Besides he is aware that the Germans may tell them what Serbian guerillas are while the Italians will recollect of the 5 Italian divisions captured in Adriatics.

As for me personally I consider even a Russian military base negotiations would be be a good moral support to stimulate the US for a compromise over Kosovo and urge on EU for sooner integration of Serbia.

GOSPODI BLAGOSLAVI SERBIJU !

Statistician

pre 16 godina

Hi, Peggy

If you put the countrie in terms of their political ,military and economic power into a distribution, those 40 countries, or so, would significantly skew the distribution in the kosovo's direction:)

Kosovar

pre 16 godina

Ali, I think you should go back to school and learn some math. You don't have the majority of the world behind you. The Serbs do.
(Peggy)

a. 75 % of WOrld Economic Strenght,

b. 80% of World Military expenditure expenditure-thus strenght

c. they together have far more weight on world political decision than the world together combined...

Unlike simple I think is (more a)"creative maths".

Peggy

pre 16 godina

Ali, I think you should go back to school and learn some math. You don't have the majority of the world behind you. The Serbs do.

25-40 countries out of 200 is not a majority. I wish the Albanians would stop saying things like they have the majority of the world.

Wake up Albnians. How can 40 out of 200 be a majority?

Jovan z

pre 16 godina

I did not think Russia would do anything past talking and providing lip service.Just as the destruction of Jugoslavia was a precident for other things so is Kosova and we are truly on our own.No Serbian security forces no Russians no resistance from anyone so it is no surprise that the Albanians and NATO will do what they want when they want.

Razvan, Bucharest, Romania

pre 16 godina

Sirius Black said: "If we take this as an analogy, the way Serbia is going, and when it eventually realizes that it should turn to the West, it will be like let's say Romania was after it cut its ties with Russia (at the end of the cold war)."

Sirius, what are you talking about? What ties did Romania have with Soviet Union? If you speak about Russia during the cold war, then you mean Soviet Union, right? Our former president Nicolae Ceausescu was a Dictator who defied Soviet Union. Read about the events from 1968, read about the Most Favoured Nation status offered by United States to Romania, read about the Los Angeles Olympic Games from 1984, etc., etc. While I was a kid it was very difficult to study Russian language in Romania. And you speak about Romania's ties to Soviet Union?

If you want to speak about our ties with Serbia, it's ok, because they are REAL, but don't ever speak about "ties" between Romania and Soviet Union, because you insult most Romanians.

Serbia was thrown in the arms of Russia by the disastrous politics of the United States. This is another "success" of the Bush Administration.

Viorel

pre 16 godina

To Mr. blero (blero, 4 March 2008 12:17)

1. I can see that you have gone to extremes of copying other people’s opinions on the matter. But can you please tell me why?
I did an interesting research on internet about this important question: "Is Kosovo a unique case ?". A week ago for the topic "Kosovo" "unique case" there were only several articles. Today with Google-news you'll find about 139 articles. Different people with different opinions.

2. It would be simpler if you just put the links don’t you?
I'm not accustomed with this style.

3. What do the notes you have put forward have to do in any shape or form with the actual article (Russian troops won’t return to Kosovo).
Read again the article.
...labeling Kosovo a unique case was "nonsense" [ said Dmitry Rogozin ]

4. How will the comments look if everybody does what you did (copy pages and pages of somebody else’s notes).
I did not copy pages, but several lines. Sometimes, the opinions expressed in foreign journals are more important that the news itself. ( !! )

5. I thought that this is where people write their own thoughts ( unless you run an advertisement section).
I already wrote my opinion in B92. Here are the numbers: 47448, 47575, 47688, 47864, (48029).

6. You know that “your” comment is actually longer that the article itself.
Yes, I do. Sorry !

Mr. blero, in Romania the ethnic Hungarians from Harghita, Covasna and Mures want to have ( territorial ) autonomy, even though the party UDMR ( Union Democratic of Magyars from Romania ) have been in guvernment for the last 12 years. Is Kosovo a unique case ? Of course, not ! There are over a hundred places in the World affected by the decision of accepting unilateral independence ( like Kosovo ). The Kosovo preceding will drop the World in a big turmoil. That is my opinion !

Viorel

Razvan, Bucharest, Romania

pre 16 godina

Sirius Black said: "If we take this as an analogy, the way Serbia is going, and when it eventually realizes that it should turn to the West, it will be like let's say Romania was after it cut its ties with Russia (at the end of the cold war)."

Sirius, what are you talking about? What ties did Romania have with Soviet Union? If you speak about Russia during the cold war, then you mean Soviet Union, right? Our former president Nicolae Ceausescu was a Dictator who defied Soviet Union. Read about the events from 1968, read about the Most Favoured Nation status offered by United States to Romania, read about the Los Angeles Olympic Games from 1984, etc., etc. While I was a kid it was very difficult to study Russian language in Romania. And you speak about Romania's ties to Soviet Union?

If you want to speak about our ties with Serbia, it's ok, because they are REAL, but don't ever speak about "ties" between Romania and Soviet Union, because you insult most Romanians.

Serbia was thrown in the arms of Russia by the disastrous politics of the United States. This is another "success" of the Bush Administration.

adrian, timisoara, romania

pre 16 godina

"If you want to speak about our ties with Serbia, it's ok, because they are REAL, but don't ever speak about "ties" between Romania and Soviet Union, because you insult most Romanians."

Razvan, i`m sure you are talking about Timok Valley "vlahs"...

kika

pre 16 godina

I will not bother to explain wether recognizing Kosovo was right or wrong, the time will show how the situation will develop.
The USA is supporting this decision rigth now together with a large number of european (nato) countries.
Still, the opinion of neighboring countries on this matter and everything else regarding Kosovo has been arogantly ignored, which is a bad sign indeed.
Albanians will still have to live with their neighbours after all and currently they are showing no will to improve their relations, thinking that the US will eternaly support them.
I do not have to remind people on Albanian policy in the past 100 years, eurolex, UDI and a little propaganda can not change to lokal mentality of anyone.
The feeling that they are surrounded by "orthodox enemies" is still there and this is somthing that has not been changed.
BTW The opinion that the US gouverment has made a mess in Iraq and Afganistan, but Kosovo is a succes story, is based on only one fact, that the majority in Kosovo are Albanians and they refuse to live under any kind of Serbian rule, completly ignoring all other aspects of the Kosovo problem.