Wisner: Kosovo decision won’t be annulled

“Russia did not propose a solution and only started to threaten its veto last summer if the perception of its interests was not met,” Wisner said.
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Come on Wisner, the proposed solution was to negotiate something that was "More than autonomy but less than independence". It was the US that blocked everything except its own path and then bulldozed through international law when that path was threatened!

Seeing that the international community is on the side of Russia and Serbia, it is likely the end result will have to be negotiated anyway.

It seems the US is trying to save face due to the dismal number of states willing to recognise this illegal puppet entity. All the pressure and arm twisting applied by the US can only go so far!

Firstly lets point out it is not the EU bit only individual EU states who have acted illegally and what is very clear is that EU will not unify its position.

Moreover, some US commentators are only too aware of the opposite reality that has been created;

"Instead, William Montgomery, a former ambassador to the region, said Kosovo's newfound freedom is an increasingly complicated situation that is going to require communication and compromise.

"Despite all of our efforts, still today, the Balkans region is still an unstable one," Montgomery told a group of U students, professors and community members Tuesday. Montgomery, who spoke at the Hinckley Institute of Politics, has been a columnist since he retired in 2004. He is a former career diplomat and U.S. ambassador to Bulgaria, Croatia and Serbia and Montenegro.

He spoke about the Balkans region, specifically Kosovo, which proclaimed its independence in defiance of Serbia and Russia and condemned its status as a new country. However, that is only one of the issues the country's government is worrying about, he said.

Montgomery gave a list of obstacles the new government faces, including a "basket-case economy and an under-educated and under-trained work force.""
http://media.www.dailyutahchronicle.com/media/storage/paper244/news/2008/02/27/News/Kosovo.Independence.Not.happy.Ending.Former.Diplomat.Says-3237395.shtml

- created greater instability to which more "compromise" will be required before stability returns - opps already the reality is sinking in! Has anyone told Thaci?

Oh what a tangled web we weave and easily some are deceived!!!

Oh, yes, you will Mr Wisner, it is just matter of time when you will revoke or abolish your recognition. Did you really think that you are going to break Serbia apart and continue with changing Balkan in the way that suits you? It is just a matter of time when you will break your heads in the Balkan as many satraps did in the past.

As for Mr Simes, it will be heavy sobering after he realise that Russia is ready to make radical moves if necessary. It is not because of their affection and real brotherhood feeling for the Serbs but a bit more complex issue. Besides, Serbia made sure to have Russia on its side in every kind of situation.

once again B92 is eagerly promoting the flawed thoughts of some sold out souls that are serving western interests in socalled think-tanks...

B92 doesn´t even try to hide it...

as to Mr.Wisner:

so, the international community had to make a choice, uhh?

well, the international community has already made it´s choice, dude.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence


one must be a complete idiot, or an autist, to find a majority in preference for this socalled "independence" within the international community.

if you as a minority, Mr. Wisner have made your choice, fine. then you´ll be responsible and you will have to bear the consequences!

Joe, ask youre self this :

"What would make me more anxious?"

Answers :

A. An unrecognized but angry Kosovo and an frendly Serbian Neighbour.

or

B. An happy recognized Kosovo and an furious Serbia which hosts an very large Russian army base on it's soil which also controls the Gas you depend on the warm youre citicens houses???

hmmmmm difficult to answer, not really.

Whe have an very good saying for that.

"Better an good neighbour (Serbia & Russia) than an far frend (USA)."

Joe

Don't wary. Even countries like Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and Hungary will recognize Kosova after a while.
These small countries were greatly intimidated last week by the burning of embassies. But despite violence those recognitions will come in due time.
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Burning embassies? Is that the only ammunition you have? The was yesterday's news so time to turn the page and move on.

Whether Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and Hungary recognise or not will be determined by the strength of their politicians and level of pressure applied by the US.

One thing is certain though, if they had a free choice, they would certainly be in the NON-recognition team.

There is practically no support for this illegal quasi entity and only through US pressure and intimidation has come this dismal amount.

Albania will not be joining NATO any time soon. They are still using some equipment from WORLD WAR 2! check out the "military of Albania" page on wikipedia. The US has no use for ALbania, the only reason they want Ukraine and eastern european countries in Nato is to get military bases closer to Russia. Albania dosent serve tht purpose of the US in NATO. Thats all NATO is, a platform for the west to get closer to Russia, China, North Korea, Iran. Places they want to start wars and need the tactical advantage.

We will not annull our desicion

sounds a lot like

Dick Cheney: "we will be greated as liberaters in Iraq"

Bush: "Saddam is linked to Al Queada, he has WMDs"

Bush: "Iran is building a Nuclear bomb"

All those things turned out to be true right?

ZK UK,

Don't wary. Even countries like Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and Hungary will recognize Kosova after a while.
These small countries were greatly intimidated last week by the burning of embassies. But despite violence those recognitions will come in due time.

hey guy, it's best that serbia accepts the declaration of independents. that's if serbia wonts to move on, and not be the poorest country in the balkans.

Joe wrote:
"Don't wary. Even countries like Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and Hungary will recognize Kosova after a while. "

Yes, i believe it's called the "Coalition of the Schilling".....Oops, i mean "Willing"..

BTW, your keyboard is sticking.
You need to reverse the keys A and O in "worry" and "Kosovo"..

Mr. Wisner.
I don't see how 1244 was a precedent for occupation..

NATO led forces never "Payed" to see VJ's cards in the bombing campaign. Nobody showed their hand, and it ended in an agreement.
NATO entered unimpeded, the mines were removed, and nobody got killed..
Militarily, it was very professional, and courteous. The political masters settled for 1244..
Nobody foreign country had to lose its' soldiers, and Yugoslavia had her borders guaranteed. A Gentleman's agreement.
But as far as card games go, this is the dirtiest hand i've ever seen.

The UN charter is going to be extinct IMHO.
Perhaps we can get Russia to recognize an independent Kurdistan?

Peter V, please tell me what ticked you to resort to such ranting about a subject you rely on Wikipedia to explain.
Is it jealousy or just mere desperation?
We will see in April if Albania joins NATO or not, and I hope you are around to talk about it.

Albania, Croatia, and Macedonia have practically received assurances from every NATO member. In my opinion, Albania and Croatia are guaranteed, but Macedonia might have problems with Greek opposition.

hey guy, it's best that serbia accepts the declaration of independents. that's if serbia wonts to move on, and not be the poorest country in the balkans.
(vlad, 27 February 2008 21:46)


Well Vlad, I believe Albania is proudly occupying that position. The poorest country in Europe.
Serbia managed to keep on top of economy as much as possible, even after being subjected to sanctions and wars, and countless bombings and distruction.

In case you didn't hear, a gaspipes from Russia will flow through Serbia.
What's America building in Albania? Or Kosovo? Apart from military bases for and by Americans?

Do enlighten us, as to how Albania is possibly going to catch up with Serbia in the next 10 years?

ZK UK,

Don't wary. Even countries like Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and Hungary will recognize Kosova after a while.
These small countries were greatly intimidated last week by the burning of embassies. But despite violence those recognitions will come in due time.

“Russia did not propose a solution and only started to threaten its veto last summer if the perception of its interests was not met,” Wisner said.
--

Come on Wisner, the proposed solution was to negotiate something that was "More than autonomy but less than independence". It was the US that blocked everything except its own path and then bulldozed through international law when that path was threatened!

Seeing that the international community is on the side of Russia and Serbia, it is likely the end result will have to be negotiated anyway.

It seems the US is trying to save face due to the dismal number of states willing to recognise this illegal puppet entity. All the pressure and arm twisting applied by the US can only go so far!

hey guy, it's best that serbia accepts the declaration of independents. that's if serbia wonts to move on, and not be the poorest country in the balkans.

once again B92 is eagerly promoting the flawed thoughts of some sold out souls that are serving western interests in socalled think-tanks...

B92 doesn´t even try to hide it...

as to Mr.Wisner:

so, the international community had to make a choice, uhh?

well, the international community has already made it´s choice, dude.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence


one must be a complete idiot, or an autist, to find a majority in preference for this socalled "independence" within the international community.

if you as a minority, Mr. Wisner have made your choice, fine. then you´ll be responsible and you will have to bear the consequences!

Firstly lets point out it is not the EU bit only individual EU states who have acted illegally and what is very clear is that EU will not unify its position.

Moreover, some US commentators are only too aware of the opposite reality that has been created;

"Instead, William Montgomery, a former ambassador to the region, said Kosovo's newfound freedom is an increasingly complicated situation that is going to require communication and compromise.

"Despite all of our efforts, still today, the Balkans region is still an unstable one," Montgomery told a group of U students, professors and community members Tuesday. Montgomery, who spoke at the Hinckley Institute of Politics, has been a columnist since he retired in 2004. He is a former career diplomat and U.S. ambassador to Bulgaria, Croatia and Serbia and Montenegro.

He spoke about the Balkans region, specifically Kosovo, which proclaimed its independence in defiance of Serbia and Russia and condemned its status as a new country. However, that is only one of the issues the country's government is worrying about, he said.

Montgomery gave a list of obstacles the new government faces, including a "basket-case economy and an under-educated and under-trained work force.""
http://media.www.dailyutahchronicle.com/media/storage/paper244/news/2008/02/27/News/Kosovo.Independence.Not.happy.Ending.Former.Diplomat.Says-3237395.shtml

- created greater instability to which more "compromise" will be required before stability returns - opps already the reality is sinking in! Has anyone told Thaci?

Oh what a tangled web we weave and easily some are deceived!!!

Oh, yes, you will Mr Wisner, it is just matter of time when you will revoke or abolish your recognition. Did you really think that you are going to break Serbia apart and continue with changing Balkan in the way that suits you? It is just a matter of time when you will break your heads in the Balkan as many satraps did in the past.

As for Mr Simes, it will be heavy sobering after he realise that Russia is ready to make radical moves if necessary. It is not because of their affection and real brotherhood feeling for the Serbs but a bit more complex issue. Besides, Serbia made sure to have Russia on its side in every kind of situation.

Joe, ask youre self this :

"What would make me more anxious?"

Answers :

A. An unrecognized but angry Kosovo and an frendly Serbian Neighbour.

or

B. An happy recognized Kosovo and an furious Serbia which hosts an very large Russian army base on it's soil which also controls the Gas you depend on the warm youre citicens houses???

hmmmmm difficult to answer, not really.

Whe have an very good saying for that.

"Better an good neighbour (Serbia & Russia) than an far frend (USA)."

Joe

Don't wary. Even countries like Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and Hungary will recognize Kosova after a while.
These small countries were greatly intimidated last week by the burning of embassies. But despite violence those recognitions will come in due time.
--

Burning embassies? Is that the only ammunition you have? The was yesterday's news so time to turn the page and move on.

Whether Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and Hungary recognise or not will be determined by the strength of their politicians and level of pressure applied by the US.

One thing is certain though, if they had a free choice, they would certainly be in the NON-recognition team.

There is practically no support for this illegal quasi entity and only through US pressure and intimidation has come this dismal amount.

Albania will not be joining NATO any time soon. They are still using some equipment from WORLD WAR 2! check out the "military of Albania" page on wikipedia. The US has no use for ALbania, the only reason they want Ukraine and eastern european countries in Nato is to get military bases closer to Russia. Albania dosent serve tht purpose of the US in NATO. Thats all NATO is, a platform for the west to get closer to Russia, China, North Korea, Iran. Places they want to start wars and need the tactical advantage.

We will not annull our desicion

sounds a lot like

Dick Cheney: "we will be greated as liberaters in Iraq"

Bush: "Saddam is linked to Al Queada, he has WMDs"

Bush: "Iran is building a Nuclear bomb"

All those things turned out to be true right?

Mr. Wisner.
I don't see how 1244 was a precedent for occupation..

NATO led forces never "Payed" to see VJ's cards in the bombing campaign. Nobody showed their hand, and it ended in an agreement.
NATO entered unimpeded, the mines were removed, and nobody got killed..
Militarily, it was very professional, and courteous. The political masters settled for 1244..
Nobody foreign country had to lose its' soldiers, and Yugoslavia had her borders guaranteed. A Gentleman's agreement.
But as far as card games go, this is the dirtiest hand i've ever seen.

The UN charter is going to be extinct IMHO.
Perhaps we can get Russia to recognize an independent Kurdistan?

Joe wrote:
"Don't wary. Even countries like Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia and Hungary will recognize Kosova after a while. "

Yes, i believe it's called the "Coalition of the Schilling".....Oops, i mean "Willing"..

BTW, your keyboard is sticking.
You need to reverse the keys A and O in "worry" and "Kosovo"..

Peter V, please tell me what ticked you to resort to such ranting about a subject you rely on Wikipedia to explain.
Is it jealousy or just mere desperation?
We will see in April if Albania joins NATO or not, and I hope you are around to talk about it.

Albania, Croatia, and Macedonia have practically received assurances from every NATO member. In my opinion, Albania and Croatia are guaranteed, but Macedonia might have problems with Greek opposition.

hey guy, it's best that serbia accepts the declaration of independents. that's if serbia wonts to move on, and not be the poorest country in the balkans.
(vlad, 27 February 2008 21:46)


Well Vlad, I believe Albania is proudly occupying that position. The poorest country in Europe.
Serbia managed to keep on top of economy as much as possible, even after being subjected to sanctions and wars, and countless bombings and distruction.

In case you didn't hear, a gaspipes from Russia will flow through Serbia.
What's America building in Albania? Or Kosovo? Apart from military bases for and by Americans?

Do enlighten us, as to how Albania is possibly going to catch up with Serbia in the next 10 years?