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Sunday, 24.02.2008.

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Thaci says Belgrade "reacts primitively"

Kosovo's Albanian PM, Hashim Thaci, said Belgrade's reaction to the Kosovo crisis is "primitive".

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peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

R Guraziu:

You can say this over & over, but doesn't alter the reality. K-albanians declaring independence is not the same as Kosovo being independent.

And after the euphoria of the first couple of days & the 'rush' of recognitions, true state of affairs is now becoming apparent as countries begin to examine the consequences of doing so.

And situation will not change anytime soon..


Arzo:

One persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist. Fact of the matter is anyone who kills another for the sake of a political ideal is a terrorist - as he/she seeks to undermine the established authority through the use of 'terror'.

Thaci joined the KLA in the early part of its history. He carried out 'terrorist' acts. So he has no business being in ANY position of civil authority - let alone running a state - pseudo or otherwise.


Geni & ben:

Suggest you direct your comments towards the ICTY. They were the ones who were charged with investigating K-albanian claims of genocide in Kosovo.

And they were the ones who withdrew after after 2yrs of investigation without finding any such thing - much to Carla del Ponte's chagrin.

I might add that the results of their investigation weren't given much publicity in the western media - didn't fit the serb stereotype I assume.


Geni:

ben:

My comment; "Hard to argue with facts.. " actually referred to Thaci's background, not to 'Tom O'Donaghue's post - which I found amusing.

As for the hague being effective.. seems to depends on who's on trial doesn't it. Brings to mind people like 'Naser Oric' or your very own 'Ramush Haradinaj'.

And B92 has always seemed to me to be an impartial arbitrator - sometimes to it's own detriment.

And when you talk about the "OCCUPATION", to what do you refer?

The occcupation of serbian territory by K-albanians.. no - that doesn't really apply does it - they are (or were) citizens of Serbia - secessionists would be a more apt description.

Then perhaps you're referring to the occupation of Kosovo (& by extension Serbia) by the serbs for the last 1000+ years.. umm.. gonna have to send 'em all back to Russia I suppose...


ilir:

"usualy i dont agree with thaqi but this time he is dead right.
(ilir, 25 February 2008 08:04) "

With the emphasis on the 'dead' I presume..


Roland:

No, we 'galactic defenders of christendom' merely oppose the theft of something we hold dearly - something which defines our history & identity.

ben

pre 16 godina

Sydney guy> Its hard to ague in civilized manner with racists.

Hague is much more effective.

Thanks to B92 to give space to the racists.

lets play your dirty game and answer to you that as you say the primitivism actually is the result of the OCCUPATION.

The footprints of your culture are in the freezing trucks with the Albanian bodies in Danube river and teh mass graves near Belgrade and around Serbia.

Roland

pre 16 godina

Let's be honest now. Most of those who react in such an angry manner to Thaci's comment, are mostly upset because an uncouth Albanian is calling them, the galactic defenders of Christendom 'primitive.'

BKK

pre 16 godina

Pot calling the kettle black. OR as French would say it 'La pelle se moque du fourgon'.

It takes a real primitive to know primitive, doesn't it Thaci?

Richard Z

pre 16 godina

" What else does he and others expect. To just lay down and welcome Kosovo's independence with open arms. . . "


Not that it reall matters, but I don't like to hide behind annoymonous user name. That comment came from me, I just forgot to fill in my name.

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

JOSH:

I don't know where you get your figures from, but last I heard, the number of people who died in the civil conflict of the late 90's was about 4600.. of ALL nationalities.

Also note that this figure doesn't include the 500 civilians who died in Serbian proper from NATO bombing.


EA:

"The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova."

Sounds a little ominous...


Ben:

Hard to argue with facts..

And while the K-albanians have declared Kosovo independent, that does not make it an independent state.

And as for describing 'Tom O'Donoghue's post as racist, he didn't actually finish the sentence in question, ie:

"Doesn't sound like Serbia. Sounds more like ........."

You did that all by yourself, & even if he had, Thaci beat him to it.. the pot calling the kettle black!

ps: nice post 'Tom' - certainly got a reaction :)


Joe:

Thaci.. wise statesman... not sure if his victims would agree.

Rote Kapella

pre 16 godina

I have never been the Snake's fan club member ( we have none in Russia ) but he is 100 % right when he syas that the Serbs react primitively. Upto now the only real and more or less effective counter action of the Serbs was the Belgrade riot ! All the rest are just predictable and fake attempts to frighten the West with a finger.

The situation demands extraordinary steps unexpected by the enemies. When you deal wih an enemy you should not say what you are going to do and you should not do what you have already said. Let them know the news from the papers !

There's a wide range of such steps that Serbian leaders do not use. Their problem is the lack of unity and political will for radical measures. Russia also doubts of their capacity to go far to defend national interests of the Serbs.

By the way Serbia has got a unique chance to attract massive Russian financing of it's economy and gaining vast military aid. Something will become clear after Medvedev's visit and especially after his election. Hope we shall be able to astonish the Snake with not standard steps. Just as he asks !

Arzo

pre 16 godina

I love how some of our friends here like to post about how kosovo is runned by a criminal and how he is corrupt.

'The so-called KLA' was a freedom fighting group and it was peacefully dismantled proving that they werent after the extermination of Kosovar Serbians.

Our PM, guarentees that its Kosovar citizen will all be equal.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

JOSH

Don't you read
"THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER"
it was 100 000 Albanians. If you are going to tell a story then tell it right.

R Guraziu, UK

pre 16 godina

Well said Mr prime-minister.

The oponents of Kosova should get used to the fact that Kosova is NOW independent and sovereign state.

Joe

pre 16 godina

Congratulations K-Albanians to have a wise statesman type person like Thaci as PM.
He is democratic and stays away from provocations. I am sure the world will be impressed by his leadership and will wish all of you a bright future.
Enjoy your independence and freedom.

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

Kosovo's Albanian PM, Hashim Thaci, said Belgrade's reaction to the Kosovo crisis is "primitive".

RE: Hypocricy at the highest order.

Today, the KLA terrorist laid a wreath on Ibriham Rugova's memorial in the centre of Pristina. However, Thaci is a KLA terrorist, Rogova movement was based on peaceful resistance.

Thaci is responsible for the murder of Serbia and Albanian civil authorities, police and oppostion party members.

Peace is not possible in Kosovo with a KLA terrorist in the position of Prime Minister.

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

RE: The KLA Terrorist Hacim Thaci

What is missing from the global media reports dedicated to Kosovo’s independence is the Albanian terrorism.

Joseph Stedul

Tomislav Tustić Photo: Wikipedia/Reuters/freerepublic.com If we are to judge by individual reactions of countries that responded to Kosovo’ declaration of independence, everybody has their own interests –but what is missing from global media reports dedicated to the precedents and separatism is terrorism, which was a constituent factor in creating the world’ newest nation.

Great Serbia and Great Albania – two sides of the same coin

The fate of the independent Kosovo is closely tied to the person and work of Hashim Thaci, who joined the Albanian political migration in Switzerland in the early nineties, where he founded the “National Movement for Kosovo”, the Marxist-Leninist political party whose only aim was to unite all of the regions where Albanians lived into one country, which in reality is nothing else besides copying the politics of Milosevic’s efforts to create the entity “Greater Serbia” on the regions of the former Yugoslavia.

In 1993, Thaci became a member of the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army), who according to BBC soon resorted to “the most successful guerrilla movement in modern times” and/or a terrorist organization that reveals to the world the “direct connection between Al Qaeda and Albanians”. Parallel with the foundation of the “rebel guerrillas”, Thaci (the war name for “Snake”) founded and organized the Drenica Group that soon rose as the dominant and most well known criminal organization of the Balkans. It concerned itself (and still does) with weapons smuggling, heroin, cocaine and cigarettes, automobile theft, prostitution and other profitable jobs that are common for mafia groups. “Drenica” soon made connections with key organizations in Albania, the Czech Republic, and Macedonia, creating a large-scale criminal organization, which according to Can Karpat’s report, was sealed with a marriage between Thaci’s sister and Sejdij Bajrush, one of the most infamous leaders of the Albanian mafia.

One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter

The first terrorist act that was directly blamed on the current premier of independent Kosovo happened on May 25, 1993. When Thaci, together with Rafet Rama, Jakup Nuri, Sami Ljustku and Ilijaz Kadriju, attacked Serbian police at the railway crossing “Glogovac”, which the respected Jane’s Information Group reports. During the attack, two police officers were killed, and another five were injured.

In July 1997, the court in Pristina sentenced Thaci (in absence) to ten years in prison, because of which he, and members of the Drenica group hid in the forests. The legal prosecution of him was stopped in 1999 when Hashim was recognized as the political leader of the KLA.

Judging by newspaper reports, Thaci was not only unforgiving towards Kosovo Serbs, but towards mainstream Albanians as well. In June 1999, the New York Times published an article that accuses Hashim and two of his supporters of the murder of somebody that opposed Albanian nationalism. The author of the article Chris Hedges, at the time, interviewed Rifat Haxhijaj who lived with Thaci in Switzerland, who stated: “When the war started (against the Serbian authorities), everybody wanted to be the boss. To get an idea of the kind of battle we are talking about, we only have to mention the murder of the Albanian reporter Alij Uka, a man that showed patriotism when Albanian nationalism/separatism was concerned. However, at the same time, he was a very harsh critic of people that were at the head of separatist currents. Uka was killed in his apartment in Tirana, and according to the words of former KLA members, the act was committed by his roommate at the time – Hashim Thaci, in cooperation with the secret police that Albania happily placed “at the disposal of the rebel leaders”. The allegations were rejected by Thaci’s representative in Switzerland, Jasha Salih who said:

- These reports are incorrect. Neither Mr Thaci, nor anyone else in the KLA were involved in these activities. Our only aim is independent Kosovo.

On the other hand there are the statements by Bujar Bukoshi, the former premier in Ibrahim Rogov’s exiled cabinet, who said in Hashim’s rise:

- Cadavers have never been an obstacle to Thaci’s career.

The inconvenient truth about Albanian ethnic cleansing

The massacre in the village Racak was by far the bloodiest incident that served as a prelude to “Kosovo’s war”. An alleged murder is in question, with 45 Albanian civilians whose death was presented to the West as the Serbian revenge for the actions taken by the KLA against Serbian security forces. “Yugoslavia” then dropped all allegations, claiming that its forces were not responsible for the crime. However the same coalition led by the USA that recognized Kosovo have not backed away from their allegations, so the crime will remain on the conscience of the Serbs.

To make the historical line even more interesting, Thaci himself shocked the press, and then radio Voice of Russia – who first published Hashim’s confession in March 2000. Hashim admitted that the KLA purposely demonised Serbia through its operations, provoking the military intervention of the West.

The Voice of Russia then cited Thaci who talked about a public secret, admitting that the KLA killed four police officers in the village Racak, with the intent of provoking action from the Serbian special forces. The Serbs did react, and the media immediately characterized it as a Serbian massacre of Albanian villagers, which was denied by Thaci himself, explaining that the bodies of KLA members were later found, which was later additionally analysed in great detail by the media.

Thaci talked about the idea of “Greater Albania” until 1998, when Albania met with the “pyramid scheme” which led to mass looting, which together with the war, homogenized the population in Kosovo. This caused Hashim to change to rhetoric, and start talking about the idea of independence for the region.

From a wanted terrorist to a loved premier

The KLA was on the list of the 100 most wanted and dangerous terrorist organizations in the world until 1998, when the US administration together with Bill Clinton, changed course and decided to support the “guerrillas”, by inaugurating Thaci as the “spokesperson” for Albanian interests in Kosovo.

This course was followed by George W. Bush, despite the link between the KLA and Al Qaeda that is well known to the intelligence community.

Thaci and his party reject all of these allegations.

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

More puppet talk from Thaci. I think he'll get the message soon enough.

As for Vojvodina, 67% Serbian and a nice Russian pipeline soon to be running through it, right at the Hungarian border!

Seems fairly safe to me. I'd like to see someone directly face Russian (and European) interests!

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

Primitive???
One meaning of which is: "something produced by a people or culture that is nonindustrial and often nonliterate and tribal"
(dictionary)
Hmmmm.
Doesn't sound like Serbia. Sounds more like .........

ben

pre 16 godina

"The former leader of the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army, KLA"

B92 he is PM of an INDEPENDENT STATE or you will adopt the RTS style
Furthermore, the Tom O'Donoghue1 is pure racist posting that should be band.

If we lack of respect there will not be peace, dont you asgree B92

Jovan

pre 16 godina

given that this statement is coming from someone who started as a terrorist..., I can only shake my head in regard to the level of absurdity...

that is probably kinda PR-phrasing to gather more albanian teenies behind him...

since it has no connection to reality whatsoever...

by the way, why are Albanians always using english-sounding nick-names if they can´t even write in an adequately correct english???

I mean isn´t it simply ridiculous? who´s gonna believe you to be a "Josh"???

Ronald

pre 16 godina

@(EA, 24 February 2008 20:36)

"The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova."

=========================

No they don't, or are you gonna send the KLA to force them, in an 'democratic' Kosovo as you claim, minority's don't have to do anything if they don't want to.

Isn't that irony for yo, now you have an relative big group off citizens that do not whish to comply and there isn't anything you (or the kosovo government) can do about it.

Roger7

pre 16 godina

Hashim “Snake” Thaci

This is the man who is judging what is primitive behavior?
The article speaks for itself.
http://www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=125467

n/a

pre 16 godina

What else does he and others expect. To just lay down and welcome Kosovo's independence with open arms.

Despite some unfortunate incidents which does us more harm then good, Belgrade reacted the way it should.

And thanks for your comment JOSH. It really shows that people like you don't know what they are talking about and can be ignored.

CH

pre 16 godina

Typically misinformed Josh... The UN put the total number of deaths on both sides in the Kosovo conflict at less than half of your one-sided 10,000. No wonder you continue to lap up the Albanian propaganda. Kosovo is the heartland of Serbia and will never be anything more than a Serbian province.

PJD

pre 16 godina

EA, why should you expect the minorities in an independent Kosovo comply with the duties and responsibilities when the Kosovo Albanians did not in Yugoslavia or Serbia?

Zoran

pre 16 godina

"It is time to show the world that Kosova's government is able keep its promises to secure bright future for all its citizens, territorial integrity of Kosova as well respect of ethnic minorities right. The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova.
(EA, 24 February 2008 20:36)"

Rewrite suggestion:

We have shown for the last twenty years or so that we cannot handle any responsibility, especially during the last eight years (and so when we say nice words nobody but the US believes us), our corrupt government only cares about itself and its criminal investors and business partners (and so for the average regular people in Kosovo the future only looks worse), we violated the territorial integrety of the Republic of Serbia by claiming an illegal UDI (and in the end we will not get away with it), we do not respect any other ethnic group but the (Kosovo) Albanians (and so any refugee who we ethnically cleansed should never come back), and we understand that the Orthodox Christian Serbs do not accept to live under (secular) muslim rule (trauma of 500 years of Ottoman rules that did not break their spirit).

Read the last sentense one more time: "The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova."

Kosovo Albanians were and are a minority in The Republic of Serbia. They never complied with their duties and responsibilities, despite being given lots of money. I cannot add anything to this utmost hyprocrisy. I just want to add one more thing. Kosovo may have been the poorest region in Yugoslavia, but a realistic look at the world shows that in every country at this planet there are more and less prosperous regions. So do not use this as an excuse to blaim all your missery on Serbia and the Serbs. Your time of world sympathy has come to an end because people have finally been informed well and are finally beginning to see how they have been fooled by the EU, NATO and the UN. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice shame on us (not this time).

EA

pre 16 godina

It is time to show the world that Kosova's government is able keep its promises to secure bright future for all its citizens, territorial integrity of Kosova as well respect of ethnic minorities right. The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova.

JOSH

pre 16 godina

well said prime minister Thaci. The serbian goverment would like the world to forget that than less than 10 years ago they killed 10 000 albanians. Not too long ago more bosnians. My god when are they gone comme to grips and realise that they dont even deserve Vojvodina.

Good luck to Kosovo
Cool headed serbs i wish yu luck for you are soon gone be another Ukraine in the books of Putin..

ToniUK

pre 16 godina

Dear Primer Thaci,

You and your gov, and all kosovar people have impressed us all.
The way you are dealing with expected serbian demostrations.
Unfortunately same can not be said about PM and other high polititians of Serbia and riots in Belgrade.
Please don't loose your cool, tolerate some misbahaving and give Kosovar serbs time to adjust.
You know by now, that you have our NATO and our IC entire support to bulid your new contry strong, asw ell as preserving its integrity in all aspects, territorial etc.

To serbs I would say, ba careful. Russia is pointing a finger at Tadic (and nearly 60% of people who voted and support him) as ones following Djindjic ideas ones who don't deserve to lead Serbia/

JOSH

pre 16 godina

well said prime minister Thaci. The serbian goverment would like the world to forget that than less than 10 years ago they killed 10 000 albanians. Not too long ago more bosnians. My god when are they gone comme to grips and realise that they dont even deserve Vojvodina.

Good luck to Kosovo
Cool headed serbs i wish yu luck for you are soon gone be another Ukraine in the books of Putin..

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

Primitive???
One meaning of which is: "something produced by a people or culture that is nonindustrial and often nonliterate and tribal"
(dictionary)
Hmmmm.
Doesn't sound like Serbia. Sounds more like .........

EA

pre 16 godina

It is time to show the world that Kosova's government is able keep its promises to secure bright future for all its citizens, territorial integrity of Kosova as well respect of ethnic minorities right. The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova.

n/a

pre 16 godina

What else does he and others expect. To just lay down and welcome Kosovo's independence with open arms.

Despite some unfortunate incidents which does us more harm then good, Belgrade reacted the way it should.

And thanks for your comment JOSH. It really shows that people like you don't know what they are talking about and can be ignored.

Roger7

pre 16 godina

Hashim “Snake” Thaci

This is the man who is judging what is primitive behavior?
The article speaks for itself.
http://www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=125467

Zoran

pre 16 godina

"It is time to show the world that Kosova's government is able keep its promises to secure bright future for all its citizens, territorial integrity of Kosova as well respect of ethnic minorities right. The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova.
(EA, 24 February 2008 20:36)"

Rewrite suggestion:

We have shown for the last twenty years or so that we cannot handle any responsibility, especially during the last eight years (and so when we say nice words nobody but the US believes us), our corrupt government only cares about itself and its criminal investors and business partners (and so for the average regular people in Kosovo the future only looks worse), we violated the territorial integrety of the Republic of Serbia by claiming an illegal UDI (and in the end we will not get away with it), we do not respect any other ethnic group but the (Kosovo) Albanians (and so any refugee who we ethnically cleansed should never come back), and we understand that the Orthodox Christian Serbs do not accept to live under (secular) muslim rule (trauma of 500 years of Ottoman rules that did not break their spirit).

Read the last sentense one more time: "The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova."

Kosovo Albanians were and are a minority in The Republic of Serbia. They never complied with their duties and responsibilities, despite being given lots of money. I cannot add anything to this utmost hyprocrisy. I just want to add one more thing. Kosovo may have been the poorest region in Yugoslavia, but a realistic look at the world shows that in every country at this planet there are more and less prosperous regions. So do not use this as an excuse to blaim all your missery on Serbia and the Serbs. Your time of world sympathy has come to an end because people have finally been informed well and are finally beginning to see how they have been fooled by the EU, NATO and the UN. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice shame on us (not this time).

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

Kosovo's Albanian PM, Hashim Thaci, said Belgrade's reaction to the Kosovo crisis is "primitive".

RE: Hypocricy at the highest order.

Today, the KLA terrorist laid a wreath on Ibriham Rugova's memorial in the centre of Pristina. However, Thaci is a KLA terrorist, Rogova movement was based on peaceful resistance.

Thaci is responsible for the murder of Serbia and Albanian civil authorities, police and oppostion party members.

Peace is not possible in Kosovo with a KLA terrorist in the position of Prime Minister.

CH

pre 16 godina

Typically misinformed Josh... The UN put the total number of deaths on both sides in the Kosovo conflict at less than half of your one-sided 10,000. No wonder you continue to lap up the Albanian propaganda. Kosovo is the heartland of Serbia and will never be anything more than a Serbian province.

PJD

pre 16 godina

EA, why should you expect the minorities in an independent Kosovo comply with the duties and responsibilities when the Kosovo Albanians did not in Yugoslavia or Serbia?

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

More puppet talk from Thaci. I think he'll get the message soon enough.

As for Vojvodina, 67% Serbian and a nice Russian pipeline soon to be running through it, right at the Hungarian border!

Seems fairly safe to me. I'd like to see someone directly face Russian (and European) interests!

Ronald

pre 16 godina

@(EA, 24 February 2008 20:36)

"The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova."

=========================

No they don't, or are you gonna send the KLA to force them, in an 'democratic' Kosovo as you claim, minority's don't have to do anything if they don't want to.

Isn't that irony for yo, now you have an relative big group off citizens that do not whish to comply and there isn't anything you (or the kosovo government) can do about it.

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

RE: The KLA Terrorist Hacim Thaci

What is missing from the global media reports dedicated to Kosovo’s independence is the Albanian terrorism.

Joseph Stedul

Tomislav Tustić Photo: Wikipedia/Reuters/freerepublic.com If we are to judge by individual reactions of countries that responded to Kosovo’ declaration of independence, everybody has their own interests –but what is missing from global media reports dedicated to the precedents and separatism is terrorism, which was a constituent factor in creating the world’ newest nation.

Great Serbia and Great Albania – two sides of the same coin

The fate of the independent Kosovo is closely tied to the person and work of Hashim Thaci, who joined the Albanian political migration in Switzerland in the early nineties, where he founded the “National Movement for Kosovo”, the Marxist-Leninist political party whose only aim was to unite all of the regions where Albanians lived into one country, which in reality is nothing else besides copying the politics of Milosevic’s efforts to create the entity “Greater Serbia” on the regions of the former Yugoslavia.

In 1993, Thaci became a member of the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army), who according to BBC soon resorted to “the most successful guerrilla movement in modern times” and/or a terrorist organization that reveals to the world the “direct connection between Al Qaeda and Albanians”. Parallel with the foundation of the “rebel guerrillas”, Thaci (the war name for “Snake”) founded and organized the Drenica Group that soon rose as the dominant and most well known criminal organization of the Balkans. It concerned itself (and still does) with weapons smuggling, heroin, cocaine and cigarettes, automobile theft, prostitution and other profitable jobs that are common for mafia groups. “Drenica” soon made connections with key organizations in Albania, the Czech Republic, and Macedonia, creating a large-scale criminal organization, which according to Can Karpat’s report, was sealed with a marriage between Thaci’s sister and Sejdij Bajrush, one of the most infamous leaders of the Albanian mafia.

One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter

The first terrorist act that was directly blamed on the current premier of independent Kosovo happened on May 25, 1993. When Thaci, together with Rafet Rama, Jakup Nuri, Sami Ljustku and Ilijaz Kadriju, attacked Serbian police at the railway crossing “Glogovac”, which the respected Jane’s Information Group reports. During the attack, two police officers were killed, and another five were injured.

In July 1997, the court in Pristina sentenced Thaci (in absence) to ten years in prison, because of which he, and members of the Drenica group hid in the forests. The legal prosecution of him was stopped in 1999 when Hashim was recognized as the political leader of the KLA.

Judging by newspaper reports, Thaci was not only unforgiving towards Kosovo Serbs, but towards mainstream Albanians as well. In June 1999, the New York Times published an article that accuses Hashim and two of his supporters of the murder of somebody that opposed Albanian nationalism. The author of the article Chris Hedges, at the time, interviewed Rifat Haxhijaj who lived with Thaci in Switzerland, who stated: “When the war started (against the Serbian authorities), everybody wanted to be the boss. To get an idea of the kind of battle we are talking about, we only have to mention the murder of the Albanian reporter Alij Uka, a man that showed patriotism when Albanian nationalism/separatism was concerned. However, at the same time, he was a very harsh critic of people that were at the head of separatist currents. Uka was killed in his apartment in Tirana, and according to the words of former KLA members, the act was committed by his roommate at the time – Hashim Thaci, in cooperation with the secret police that Albania happily placed “at the disposal of the rebel leaders”. The allegations were rejected by Thaci’s representative in Switzerland, Jasha Salih who said:

- These reports are incorrect. Neither Mr Thaci, nor anyone else in the KLA were involved in these activities. Our only aim is independent Kosovo.

On the other hand there are the statements by Bujar Bukoshi, the former premier in Ibrahim Rogov’s exiled cabinet, who said in Hashim’s rise:

- Cadavers have never been an obstacle to Thaci’s career.

The inconvenient truth about Albanian ethnic cleansing

The massacre in the village Racak was by far the bloodiest incident that served as a prelude to “Kosovo’s war”. An alleged murder is in question, with 45 Albanian civilians whose death was presented to the West as the Serbian revenge for the actions taken by the KLA against Serbian security forces. “Yugoslavia” then dropped all allegations, claiming that its forces were not responsible for the crime. However the same coalition led by the USA that recognized Kosovo have not backed away from their allegations, so the crime will remain on the conscience of the Serbs.

To make the historical line even more interesting, Thaci himself shocked the press, and then radio Voice of Russia – who first published Hashim’s confession in March 2000. Hashim admitted that the KLA purposely demonised Serbia through its operations, provoking the military intervention of the West.

The Voice of Russia then cited Thaci who talked about a public secret, admitting that the KLA killed four police officers in the village Racak, with the intent of provoking action from the Serbian special forces. The Serbs did react, and the media immediately characterized it as a Serbian massacre of Albanian villagers, which was denied by Thaci himself, explaining that the bodies of KLA members were later found, which was later additionally analysed in great detail by the media.

Thaci talked about the idea of “Greater Albania” until 1998, when Albania met with the “pyramid scheme” which led to mass looting, which together with the war, homogenized the population in Kosovo. This caused Hashim to change to rhetoric, and start talking about the idea of independence for the region.

From a wanted terrorist to a loved premier

The KLA was on the list of the 100 most wanted and dangerous terrorist organizations in the world until 1998, when the US administration together with Bill Clinton, changed course and decided to support the “guerrillas”, by inaugurating Thaci as the “spokesperson” for Albanian interests in Kosovo.

This course was followed by George W. Bush, despite the link between the KLA and Al Qaeda that is well known to the intelligence community.

Thaci and his party reject all of these allegations.

Jovan

pre 16 godina

given that this statement is coming from someone who started as a terrorist..., I can only shake my head in regard to the level of absurdity...

that is probably kinda PR-phrasing to gather more albanian teenies behind him...

since it has no connection to reality whatsoever...

by the way, why are Albanians always using english-sounding nick-names if they can´t even write in an adequately correct english???

I mean isn´t it simply ridiculous? who´s gonna believe you to be a "Josh"???

ToniUK

pre 16 godina

Dear Primer Thaci,

You and your gov, and all kosovar people have impressed us all.
The way you are dealing with expected serbian demostrations.
Unfortunately same can not be said about PM and other high polititians of Serbia and riots in Belgrade.
Please don't loose your cool, tolerate some misbahaving and give Kosovar serbs time to adjust.
You know by now, that you have our NATO and our IC entire support to bulid your new contry strong, asw ell as preserving its integrity in all aspects, territorial etc.

To serbs I would say, ba careful. Russia is pointing a finger at Tadic (and nearly 60% of people who voted and support him) as ones following Djindjic ideas ones who don't deserve to lead Serbia/

Joe

pre 16 godina

Congratulations K-Albanians to have a wise statesman type person like Thaci as PM.
He is democratic and stays away from provocations. I am sure the world will be impressed by his leadership and will wish all of you a bright future.
Enjoy your independence and freedom.

R Guraziu, UK

pre 16 godina

Well said Mr prime-minister.

The oponents of Kosova should get used to the fact that Kosova is NOW independent and sovereign state.

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

JOSH

Don't you read
"THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER"
it was 100 000 Albanians. If you are going to tell a story then tell it right.

Richard Z

pre 16 godina

" What else does he and others expect. To just lay down and welcome Kosovo's independence with open arms. . . "


Not that it reall matters, but I don't like to hide behind annoymonous user name. That comment came from me, I just forgot to fill in my name.

BKK

pre 16 godina

Pot calling the kettle black. OR as French would say it 'La pelle se moque du fourgon'.

It takes a real primitive to know primitive, doesn't it Thaci?

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

R Guraziu:

You can say this over & over, but doesn't alter the reality. K-albanians declaring independence is not the same as Kosovo being independent.

And after the euphoria of the first couple of days & the 'rush' of recognitions, true state of affairs is now becoming apparent as countries begin to examine the consequences of doing so.

And situation will not change anytime soon..


Arzo:

One persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist. Fact of the matter is anyone who kills another for the sake of a political ideal is a terrorist - as he/she seeks to undermine the established authority through the use of 'terror'.

Thaci joined the KLA in the early part of its history. He carried out 'terrorist' acts. So he has no business being in ANY position of civil authority - let alone running a state - pseudo or otherwise.


Geni & ben:

Suggest you direct your comments towards the ICTY. They were the ones who were charged with investigating K-albanian claims of genocide in Kosovo.

And they were the ones who withdrew after after 2yrs of investigation without finding any such thing - much to Carla del Ponte's chagrin.

I might add that the results of their investigation weren't given much publicity in the western media - didn't fit the serb stereotype I assume.


Geni:

ben:

My comment; "Hard to argue with facts.. " actually referred to Thaci's background, not to 'Tom O'Donaghue's post - which I found amusing.

As for the hague being effective.. seems to depends on who's on trial doesn't it. Brings to mind people like 'Naser Oric' or your very own 'Ramush Haradinaj'.

And B92 has always seemed to me to be an impartial arbitrator - sometimes to it's own detriment.

And when you talk about the "OCCUPATION", to what do you refer?

The occcupation of serbian territory by K-albanians.. no - that doesn't really apply does it - they are (or were) citizens of Serbia - secessionists would be a more apt description.

Then perhaps you're referring to the occupation of Kosovo (& by extension Serbia) by the serbs for the last 1000+ years.. umm.. gonna have to send 'em all back to Russia I suppose...


ilir:

"usualy i dont agree with thaqi but this time he is dead right.
(ilir, 25 February 2008 08:04) "

With the emphasis on the 'dead' I presume..


Roland:

No, we 'galactic defenders of christendom' merely oppose the theft of something we hold dearly - something which defines our history & identity.

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

JOSH:

I don't know where you get your figures from, but last I heard, the number of people who died in the civil conflict of the late 90's was about 4600.. of ALL nationalities.

Also note that this figure doesn't include the 500 civilians who died in Serbian proper from NATO bombing.


EA:

"The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova."

Sounds a little ominous...


Ben:

Hard to argue with facts..

And while the K-albanians have declared Kosovo independent, that does not make it an independent state.

And as for describing 'Tom O'Donoghue's post as racist, he didn't actually finish the sentence in question, ie:

"Doesn't sound like Serbia. Sounds more like ........."

You did that all by yourself, & even if he had, Thaci beat him to it.. the pot calling the kettle black!

ps: nice post 'Tom' - certainly got a reaction :)


Joe:

Thaci.. wise statesman... not sure if his victims would agree.

Roland

pre 16 godina

Let's be honest now. Most of those who react in such an angry manner to Thaci's comment, are mostly upset because an uncouth Albanian is calling them, the galactic defenders of Christendom 'primitive.'

Rote Kapella

pre 16 godina

I have never been the Snake's fan club member ( we have none in Russia ) but he is 100 % right when he syas that the Serbs react primitively. Upto now the only real and more or less effective counter action of the Serbs was the Belgrade riot ! All the rest are just predictable and fake attempts to frighten the West with a finger.

The situation demands extraordinary steps unexpected by the enemies. When you deal wih an enemy you should not say what you are going to do and you should not do what you have already said. Let them know the news from the papers !

There's a wide range of such steps that Serbian leaders do not use. Their problem is the lack of unity and political will for radical measures. Russia also doubts of their capacity to go far to defend national interests of the Serbs.

By the way Serbia has got a unique chance to attract massive Russian financing of it's economy and gaining vast military aid. Something will become clear after Medvedev's visit and especially after his election. Hope we shall be able to astonish the Snake with not standard steps. Just as he asks !

ben

pre 16 godina

"The former leader of the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army, KLA"

B92 he is PM of an INDEPENDENT STATE or you will adopt the RTS style
Furthermore, the Tom O'Donoghue1 is pure racist posting that should be band.

If we lack of respect there will not be peace, dont you asgree B92

Arzo

pre 16 godina

I love how some of our friends here like to post about how kosovo is runned by a criminal and how he is corrupt.

'The so-called KLA' was a freedom fighting group and it was peacefully dismantled proving that they werent after the extermination of Kosovar Serbians.

Our PM, guarentees that its Kosovar citizen will all be equal.

ben

pre 16 godina

Sydney guy> Its hard to ague in civilized manner with racists.

Hague is much more effective.

Thanks to B92 to give space to the racists.

lets play your dirty game and answer to you that as you say the primitivism actually is the result of the OCCUPATION.

The footprints of your culture are in the freezing trucks with the Albanian bodies in Danube river and teh mass graves near Belgrade and around Serbia.

JOSH

pre 16 godina

well said prime minister Thaci. The serbian goverment would like the world to forget that than less than 10 years ago they killed 10 000 albanians. Not too long ago more bosnians. My god when are they gone comme to grips and realise that they dont even deserve Vojvodina.

Good luck to Kosovo
Cool headed serbs i wish yu luck for you are soon gone be another Ukraine in the books of Putin..

EA

pre 16 godina

It is time to show the world that Kosova's government is able keep its promises to secure bright future for all its citizens, territorial integrity of Kosova as well respect of ethnic minorities right. The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova.

ben

pre 16 godina

"The former leader of the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army, KLA"

B92 he is PM of an INDEPENDENT STATE or you will adopt the RTS style
Furthermore, the Tom O'Donoghue1 is pure racist posting that should be band.

If we lack of respect there will not be peace, dont you asgree B92

Joe

pre 16 godina

Congratulations K-Albanians to have a wise statesman type person like Thaci as PM.
He is democratic and stays away from provocations. I am sure the world will be impressed by his leadership and will wish all of you a bright future.
Enjoy your independence and freedom.

ToniUK

pre 16 godina

Dear Primer Thaci,

You and your gov, and all kosovar people have impressed us all.
The way you are dealing with expected serbian demostrations.
Unfortunately same can not be said about PM and other high polititians of Serbia and riots in Belgrade.
Please don't loose your cool, tolerate some misbahaving and give Kosovar serbs time to adjust.
You know by now, that you have our NATO and our IC entire support to bulid your new contry strong, asw ell as preserving its integrity in all aspects, territorial etc.

To serbs I would say, ba careful. Russia is pointing a finger at Tadic (and nearly 60% of people who voted and support him) as ones following Djindjic ideas ones who don't deserve to lead Serbia/

R Guraziu, UK

pre 16 godina

Well said Mr prime-minister.

The oponents of Kosova should get used to the fact that Kosova is NOW independent and sovereign state.

ben

pre 16 godina

Sydney guy> Its hard to ague in civilized manner with racists.

Hague is much more effective.

Thanks to B92 to give space to the racists.

lets play your dirty game and answer to you that as you say the primitivism actually is the result of the OCCUPATION.

The footprints of your culture are in the freezing trucks with the Albanian bodies in Danube river and teh mass graves near Belgrade and around Serbia.

Zoran

pre 16 godina

"It is time to show the world that Kosova's government is able keep its promises to secure bright future for all its citizens, territorial integrity of Kosova as well respect of ethnic minorities right. The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova.
(EA, 24 February 2008 20:36)"

Rewrite suggestion:

We have shown for the last twenty years or so that we cannot handle any responsibility, especially during the last eight years (and so when we say nice words nobody but the US believes us), our corrupt government only cares about itself and its criminal investors and business partners (and so for the average regular people in Kosovo the future only looks worse), we violated the territorial integrety of the Republic of Serbia by claiming an illegal UDI (and in the end we will not get away with it), we do not respect any other ethnic group but the (Kosovo) Albanians (and so any refugee who we ethnically cleansed should never come back), and we understand that the Orthodox Christian Serbs do not accept to live under (secular) muslim rule (trauma of 500 years of Ottoman rules that did not break their spirit).

Read the last sentense one more time: "The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova."

Kosovo Albanians were and are a minority in The Republic of Serbia. They never complied with their duties and responsibilities, despite being given lots of money. I cannot add anything to this utmost hyprocrisy. I just want to add one more thing. Kosovo may have been the poorest region in Yugoslavia, but a realistic look at the world shows that in every country at this planet there are more and less prosperous regions. So do not use this as an excuse to blaim all your missery on Serbia and the Serbs. Your time of world sympathy has come to an end because people have finally been informed well and are finally beginning to see how they have been fooled by the EU, NATO and the UN. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice shame on us (not this time).

Arzo

pre 16 godina

I love how some of our friends here like to post about how kosovo is runned by a criminal and how he is corrupt.

'The so-called KLA' was a freedom fighting group and it was peacefully dismantled proving that they werent after the extermination of Kosovar Serbians.

Our PM, guarentees that its Kosovar citizen will all be equal.

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

JOSH:

I don't know where you get your figures from, but last I heard, the number of people who died in the civil conflict of the late 90's was about 4600.. of ALL nationalities.

Also note that this figure doesn't include the 500 civilians who died in Serbian proper from NATO bombing.


EA:

"The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova."

Sounds a little ominous...


Ben:

Hard to argue with facts..

And while the K-albanians have declared Kosovo independent, that does not make it an independent state.

And as for describing 'Tom O'Donoghue's post as racist, he didn't actually finish the sentence in question, ie:

"Doesn't sound like Serbia. Sounds more like ........."

You did that all by yourself, & even if he had, Thaci beat him to it.. the pot calling the kettle black!

ps: nice post 'Tom' - certainly got a reaction :)


Joe:

Thaci.. wise statesman... not sure if his victims would agree.

Roland

pre 16 godina

Let's be honest now. Most of those who react in such an angry manner to Thaci's comment, are mostly upset because an uncouth Albanian is calling them, the galactic defenders of Christendom 'primitive.'

n/a

pre 16 godina

What else does he and others expect. To just lay down and welcome Kosovo's independence with open arms.

Despite some unfortunate incidents which does us more harm then good, Belgrade reacted the way it should.

And thanks for your comment JOSH. It really shows that people like you don't know what they are talking about and can be ignored.

CH

pre 16 godina

Typically misinformed Josh... The UN put the total number of deaths on both sides in the Kosovo conflict at less than half of your one-sided 10,000. No wonder you continue to lap up the Albanian propaganda. Kosovo is the heartland of Serbia and will never be anything more than a Serbian province.

PJD

pre 16 godina

EA, why should you expect the minorities in an independent Kosovo comply with the duties and responsibilities when the Kosovo Albanians did not in Yugoslavia or Serbia?

Ronald

pre 16 godina

@(EA, 24 February 2008 20:36)

"The minorities must comply with the duties and responsibilities in a democratic society of Kosova."

=========================

No they don't, or are you gonna send the KLA to force them, in an 'democratic' Kosovo as you claim, minority's don't have to do anything if they don't want to.

Isn't that irony for yo, now you have an relative big group off citizens that do not whish to comply and there isn't anything you (or the kosovo government) can do about it.

Roger7

pre 16 godina

Hashim “Snake” Thaci

This is the man who is judging what is primitive behavior?
The article speaks for itself.
http://www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=125467

Jovan

pre 16 godina

given that this statement is coming from someone who started as a terrorist..., I can only shake my head in regard to the level of absurdity...

that is probably kinda PR-phrasing to gather more albanian teenies behind him...

since it has no connection to reality whatsoever...

by the way, why are Albanians always using english-sounding nick-names if they can´t even write in an adequately correct english???

I mean isn´t it simply ridiculous? who´s gonna believe you to be a "Josh"???

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

Kosovo's Albanian PM, Hashim Thaci, said Belgrade's reaction to the Kosovo crisis is "primitive".

RE: Hypocricy at the highest order.

Today, the KLA terrorist laid a wreath on Ibriham Rugova's memorial in the centre of Pristina. However, Thaci is a KLA terrorist, Rogova movement was based on peaceful resistance.

Thaci is responsible for the murder of Serbia and Albanian civil authorities, police and oppostion party members.

Peace is not possible in Kosovo with a KLA terrorist in the position of Prime Minister.

konstantin gregovic

pre 16 godina

RE: The KLA Terrorist Hacim Thaci

What is missing from the global media reports dedicated to Kosovo’s independence is the Albanian terrorism.

Joseph Stedul

Tomislav Tustić Photo: Wikipedia/Reuters/freerepublic.com If we are to judge by individual reactions of countries that responded to Kosovo’ declaration of independence, everybody has their own interests –but what is missing from global media reports dedicated to the precedents and separatism is terrorism, which was a constituent factor in creating the world’ newest nation.

Great Serbia and Great Albania – two sides of the same coin

The fate of the independent Kosovo is closely tied to the person and work of Hashim Thaci, who joined the Albanian political migration in Switzerland in the early nineties, where he founded the “National Movement for Kosovo”, the Marxist-Leninist political party whose only aim was to unite all of the regions where Albanians lived into one country, which in reality is nothing else besides copying the politics of Milosevic’s efforts to create the entity “Greater Serbia” on the regions of the former Yugoslavia.

In 1993, Thaci became a member of the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army), who according to BBC soon resorted to “the most successful guerrilla movement in modern times” and/or a terrorist organization that reveals to the world the “direct connection between Al Qaeda and Albanians”. Parallel with the foundation of the “rebel guerrillas”, Thaci (the war name for “Snake”) founded and organized the Drenica Group that soon rose as the dominant and most well known criminal organization of the Balkans. It concerned itself (and still does) with weapons smuggling, heroin, cocaine and cigarettes, automobile theft, prostitution and other profitable jobs that are common for mafia groups. “Drenica” soon made connections with key organizations in Albania, the Czech Republic, and Macedonia, creating a large-scale criminal organization, which according to Can Karpat’s report, was sealed with a marriage between Thaci’s sister and Sejdij Bajrush, one of the most infamous leaders of the Albanian mafia.

One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter

The first terrorist act that was directly blamed on the current premier of independent Kosovo happened on May 25, 1993. When Thaci, together with Rafet Rama, Jakup Nuri, Sami Ljustku and Ilijaz Kadriju, attacked Serbian police at the railway crossing “Glogovac”, which the respected Jane’s Information Group reports. During the attack, two police officers were killed, and another five were injured.

In July 1997, the court in Pristina sentenced Thaci (in absence) to ten years in prison, because of which he, and members of the Drenica group hid in the forests. The legal prosecution of him was stopped in 1999 when Hashim was recognized as the political leader of the KLA.

Judging by newspaper reports, Thaci was not only unforgiving towards Kosovo Serbs, but towards mainstream Albanians as well. In June 1999, the New York Times published an article that accuses Hashim and two of his supporters of the murder of somebody that opposed Albanian nationalism. The author of the article Chris Hedges, at the time, interviewed Rifat Haxhijaj who lived with Thaci in Switzerland, who stated: “When the war started (against the Serbian authorities), everybody wanted to be the boss. To get an idea of the kind of battle we are talking about, we only have to mention the murder of the Albanian reporter Alij Uka, a man that showed patriotism when Albanian nationalism/separatism was concerned. However, at the same time, he was a very harsh critic of people that were at the head of separatist currents. Uka was killed in his apartment in Tirana, and according to the words of former KLA members, the act was committed by his roommate at the time – Hashim Thaci, in cooperation with the secret police that Albania happily placed “at the disposal of the rebel leaders”. The allegations were rejected by Thaci’s representative in Switzerland, Jasha Salih who said:

- These reports are incorrect. Neither Mr Thaci, nor anyone else in the KLA were involved in these activities. Our only aim is independent Kosovo.

On the other hand there are the statements by Bujar Bukoshi, the former premier in Ibrahim Rogov’s exiled cabinet, who said in Hashim’s rise:

- Cadavers have never been an obstacle to Thaci’s career.

The inconvenient truth about Albanian ethnic cleansing

The massacre in the village Racak was by far the bloodiest incident that served as a prelude to “Kosovo’s war”. An alleged murder is in question, with 45 Albanian civilians whose death was presented to the West as the Serbian revenge for the actions taken by the KLA against Serbian security forces. “Yugoslavia” then dropped all allegations, claiming that its forces were not responsible for the crime. However the same coalition led by the USA that recognized Kosovo have not backed away from their allegations, so the crime will remain on the conscience of the Serbs.

To make the historical line even more interesting, Thaci himself shocked the press, and then radio Voice of Russia – who first published Hashim’s confession in March 2000. Hashim admitted that the KLA purposely demonised Serbia through its operations, provoking the military intervention of the West.

The Voice of Russia then cited Thaci who talked about a public secret, admitting that the KLA killed four police officers in the village Racak, with the intent of provoking action from the Serbian special forces. The Serbs did react, and the media immediately characterized it as a Serbian massacre of Albanian villagers, which was denied by Thaci himself, explaining that the bodies of KLA members were later found, which was later additionally analysed in great detail by the media.

Thaci talked about the idea of “Greater Albania” until 1998, when Albania met with the “pyramid scheme” which led to mass looting, which together with the war, homogenized the population in Kosovo. This caused Hashim to change to rhetoric, and start talking about the idea of independence for the region.

From a wanted terrorist to a loved premier

The KLA was on the list of the 100 most wanted and dangerous terrorist organizations in the world until 1998, when the US administration together with Bill Clinton, changed course and decided to support the “guerrillas”, by inaugurating Thaci as the “spokesperson” for Albanian interests in Kosovo.

This course was followed by George W. Bush, despite the link between the KLA and Al Qaeda that is well known to the intelligence community.

Thaci and his party reject all of these allegations.

Tom O'Donoghue

pre 16 godina

Primitive???
One meaning of which is: "something produced by a people or culture that is nonindustrial and often nonliterate and tribal"
(dictionary)
Hmmmm.
Doesn't sound like Serbia. Sounds more like .........

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

More puppet talk from Thaci. I think he'll get the message soon enough.

As for Vojvodina, 67% Serbian and a nice Russian pipeline soon to be running through it, right at the Hungarian border!

Seems fairly safe to me. I'd like to see someone directly face Russian (and European) interests!

Another Canadian Serb

pre 16 godina

JOSH

Don't you read
"THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER"
it was 100 000 Albanians. If you are going to tell a story then tell it right.

Rote Kapella

pre 16 godina

I have never been the Snake's fan club member ( we have none in Russia ) but he is 100 % right when he syas that the Serbs react primitively. Upto now the only real and more or less effective counter action of the Serbs was the Belgrade riot ! All the rest are just predictable and fake attempts to frighten the West with a finger.

The situation demands extraordinary steps unexpected by the enemies. When you deal wih an enemy you should not say what you are going to do and you should not do what you have already said. Let them know the news from the papers !

There's a wide range of such steps that Serbian leaders do not use. Their problem is the lack of unity and political will for radical measures. Russia also doubts of their capacity to go far to defend national interests of the Serbs.

By the way Serbia has got a unique chance to attract massive Russian financing of it's economy and gaining vast military aid. Something will become clear after Medvedev's visit and especially after his election. Hope we shall be able to astonish the Snake with not standard steps. Just as he asks !

Richard Z

pre 16 godina

" What else does he and others expect. To just lay down and welcome Kosovo's independence with open arms. . . "


Not that it reall matters, but I don't like to hide behind annoymonous user name. That comment came from me, I just forgot to fill in my name.

BKK

pre 16 godina

Pot calling the kettle black. OR as French would say it 'La pelle se moque du fourgon'.

It takes a real primitive to know primitive, doesn't it Thaci?

peter, sydney

pre 16 godina

R Guraziu:

You can say this over & over, but doesn't alter the reality. K-albanians declaring independence is not the same as Kosovo being independent.

And after the euphoria of the first couple of days & the 'rush' of recognitions, true state of affairs is now becoming apparent as countries begin to examine the consequences of doing so.

And situation will not change anytime soon..


Arzo:

One persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist. Fact of the matter is anyone who kills another for the sake of a political ideal is a terrorist - as he/she seeks to undermine the established authority through the use of 'terror'.

Thaci joined the KLA in the early part of its history. He carried out 'terrorist' acts. So he has no business being in ANY position of civil authority - let alone running a state - pseudo or otherwise.


Geni & ben:

Suggest you direct your comments towards the ICTY. They were the ones who were charged with investigating K-albanian claims of genocide in Kosovo.

And they were the ones who withdrew after after 2yrs of investigation without finding any such thing - much to Carla del Ponte's chagrin.

I might add that the results of their investigation weren't given much publicity in the western media - didn't fit the serb stereotype I assume.


Geni:

ben:

My comment; "Hard to argue with facts.. " actually referred to Thaci's background, not to 'Tom O'Donaghue's post - which I found amusing.

As for the hague being effective.. seems to depends on who's on trial doesn't it. Brings to mind people like 'Naser Oric' or your very own 'Ramush Haradinaj'.

And B92 has always seemed to me to be an impartial arbitrator - sometimes to it's own detriment.

And when you talk about the "OCCUPATION", to what do you refer?

The occcupation of serbian territory by K-albanians.. no - that doesn't really apply does it - they are (or were) citizens of Serbia - secessionists would be a more apt description.

Then perhaps you're referring to the occupation of Kosovo (& by extension Serbia) by the serbs for the last 1000+ years.. umm.. gonna have to send 'em all back to Russia I suppose...


ilir:

"usualy i dont agree with thaqi but this time he is dead right.
(ilir, 25 February 2008 08:04) "

With the emphasis on the 'dead' I presume..


Roland:

No, we 'galactic defenders of christendom' merely oppose the theft of something we hold dearly - something which defines our history & identity.