EC chief defends mission; EULEX withdraws from north

"The EU mission is not contrary to UN Security Council Resolution 1244 and the international law," Barroso stated, once again citing one section of Paragraph 10 of that resolution, which works in favor of the EU argument, but leaving out the second part of the same paragraph, which analysts say favors Serbia."

How pathetic of Barroso to have to now resort to half-sentences and half-truths!

On my reading of 1244 it is not legal unless they are assisting at the Secretary General's behest.

Also, 1244 most definitely allows for autonomy - but not independence.
Given that the EU are linking their involvement to independence and not to autonomy, this could quite legitimately be interpreted as being against the fundamentals of the UN charter.

It is therefore illegal for the EU to involve themselves in this way.

The good thing is that Serbia now has right on its side and that it is the international community whose behaviour is being called into question.

Kosovo is still a province of Serbia, and this cannot change until Serbia agrees.

Given the breach of 1244 it would now be within Serbia's power to relax the restrictions on itself such as sending in police etc.. precisely to enforce 1244. The IC have lost the right to claim that they can restrict Serbia by using 1244 because they are breaking 1244 themselves. (I say this because of the stupidity of the so called 'lost the right to govern argument' mentioned elsewhere).

lowe wrote:

How pathetic of Barroso to have to now resort to half-sentences and half-truths!

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Not only that, but half of the sentence is twisted to legitimise the EU mission and the US is saying the other half, that guarantee's Serbia's sovereignty, is not because it is in the "preamble". The whole paragraph is in the "preamble"!

I'm not surprised as this is part of the US hegemonic system that Serbia and Russia are now battling. Most of what is said is for consumption by the masses who really do not have a clue.

it does not bode well for eulex, or indeed for 'territorial integrity of kosovo' ;) if they rely on our generosity. we have seldom been generous when under attack with our territory illegally stolen. in fact, we have never done that.
good luck :)

So the EC chief needs to defend EULEX legality. Anybody surprised?

So tell me, in this B92 article "U.S. dubs Russia Kosovo stance "cynical" http://xs4.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=02&dd=23&nav_id=47919

The US claims:

The resolution guarantees FRY successor-state Serbia's sovereignty and territorial integrity, "but only in the preamble, not in the legal-operative sense".

However, that very same "preamble" is what the EU is trying to use to justify its mission.

They are are trying to illegitimise Serbia's claim but justify the EU mission at the same time!

Now who are the cynics? Here it is again. Full text can be found here http://www.nato.int/Kosovo/docu/u990610a.htm

10 Authorizes the Secretary-General, with the assistance of relevant international organizations, to establish an international civil presence in Kosovo in order to provide an interim administration for Kosovo under which the people of Kosovo can enjoy substantial autonomy within the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, and which will provide transitional administration while establishing and overseeing the development of provisional democratic self-governing institutions to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants of Kosovo;

EA"Ethnic Albanian"
i thought there were no refugees. Remember Kosovo is 95% Albanian. Maybe you are in reference to the
500 000 Serbian refugees waiting to return to Croatia?????
This so called systematic deployment year after has yet to benefit any Serbian Citizen from any of the Former Reoublics of Yugoslavia.
Earth to Mars
the Serbs have already blamed the USA as the leader to the dismantling of Serbia.
Have you not watched the riots in Belgrade on CNN and the rhetorical statement made by Americas' Mr BURNS!

If Serbia continues to sabotage the deployment of EU mission then the return of refugees would become impossible, then the Serbs will blame the international community.

We should check with Nostrodames writings of the future he would have been from the wise and powerful all knowing EU. They might have Serbia on a technicality if they search hard enough and set up a make work project of the unemployed EU technocrats and has been politicians comities for that quantitative expressed purpose of finding some technicality. Then the Serbs goose would be cooked and no legs to stand on. If not they possiblebaly could come up with a long lost and forgotten work of his for the expressed purposes and for the times like these. He better have said some thing and not have oppose it "because UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has not opposed it" either by the EU self serving logic.

Serbia and Kosovo are better off with the EU than NATO-UN. The EU has not itself endorsed "Kosovo independence" and I think that, if Serbs give it a chance the EU could help improve the sad situations of the Kosovo Serbs. Someday, when Serbia is in the the EU, there will be no border stopping Serbs from their Holyland!

EA

“…If Serbia continues to sabotage the deployment of EU mission then the return of refugees would become impossible, then the Serbs will blame the international community…”

Of course we blame them. If they were serious about human rights and cared about refuges, they would already returned them. Wasn’t eight years not enough?

If Serbia continues to sabotage the deployment of EU mission then the return of refugees would become impossible, then the Serbs will blame the international community.

Serbia and Kosovo are better off with the EU than NATO-UN. The EU has not itself endorsed "Kosovo independence" and I think that, if Serbs give it a chance the EU could help improve the sad situations of the Kosovo Serbs. Someday, when Serbia is in the the EU, there will be no border stopping Serbs from their Holyland!

We should check with Nostrodames writings of the future he would have been from the wise and powerful all knowing EU. They might have Serbia on a technicality if they search hard enough and set up a make work project of the unemployed EU technocrats and has been politicians comities for that quantitative expressed purpose of finding some technicality. Then the Serbs goose would be cooked and no legs to stand on. If not they possiblebaly could come up with a long lost and forgotten work of his for the expressed purposes and for the times like these. He better have said some thing and not have oppose it "because UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has not opposed it" either by the EU self serving logic.

EA"Ethnic Albanian"
i thought there were no refugees. Remember Kosovo is 95% Albanian. Maybe you are in reference to the
500 000 Serbian refugees waiting to return to Croatia?????
This so called systematic deployment year after has yet to benefit any Serbian Citizen from any of the Former Reoublics of Yugoslavia.
Earth to Mars
the Serbs have already blamed the USA as the leader to the dismantling of Serbia.
Have you not watched the riots in Belgrade on CNN and the rhetorical statement made by Americas' Mr BURNS!

"The EU mission is not contrary to UN Security Council Resolution 1244 and the international law," Barroso stated, once again citing one section of Paragraph 10 of that resolution, which works in favor of the EU argument, but leaving out the second part of the same paragraph, which analysts say favors Serbia."

How pathetic of Barroso to have to now resort to half-sentences and half-truths!

So the EC chief needs to defend EULEX legality. Anybody surprised?

So tell me, in this B92 article "U.S. dubs Russia Kosovo stance "cynical" http://xs4.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2008&mm=02&dd=23&nav_id=47919

The US claims:

The resolution guarantees FRY successor-state Serbia's sovereignty and territorial integrity, "but only in the preamble, not in the legal-operative sense".

However, that very same "preamble" is what the EU is trying to use to justify its mission.

They are are trying to illegitimise Serbia's claim but justify the EU mission at the same time!

Now who are the cynics? Here it is again. Full text can be found here http://www.nato.int/Kosovo/docu/u990610a.htm

10 Authorizes the Secretary-General, with the assistance of relevant international organizations, to establish an international civil presence in Kosovo in order to provide an interim administration for Kosovo under which the people of Kosovo can enjoy substantial autonomy within the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, and which will provide transitional administration while establishing and overseeing the development of provisional democratic self-governing institutions to ensure conditions for a peaceful and normal life for all inhabitants of Kosovo;

lowe wrote:

How pathetic of Barroso to have to now resort to half-sentences and half-truths!

--

Not only that, but half of the sentence is twisted to legitimise the EU mission and the US is saying the other half, that guarantee's Serbia's sovereignty, is not because it is in the "preamble". The whole paragraph is in the "preamble"!

I'm not surprised as this is part of the US hegemonic system that Serbia and Russia are now battling. Most of what is said is for consumption by the masses who really do not have a clue.

On my reading of 1244 it is not legal unless they are assisting at the Secretary General's behest.

Also, 1244 most definitely allows for autonomy - but not independence.
Given that the EU are linking their involvement to independence and not to autonomy, this could quite legitimately be interpreted as being against the fundamentals of the UN charter.

It is therefore illegal for the EU to involve themselves in this way.

The good thing is that Serbia now has right on its side and that it is the international community whose behaviour is being called into question.

Kosovo is still a province of Serbia, and this cannot change until Serbia agrees.

Given the breach of 1244 it would now be within Serbia's power to relax the restrictions on itself such as sending in police etc.. precisely to enforce 1244. The IC have lost the right to claim that they can restrict Serbia by using 1244 because they are breaking 1244 themselves. (I say this because of the stupidity of the so called 'lost the right to govern argument' mentioned elsewhere).

it does not bode well for eulex, or indeed for 'territorial integrity of kosovo' ;) if they rely on our generosity. we have seldom been generous when under attack with our territory illegally stolen. in fact, we have never done that.
good luck :)

EA

“…If Serbia continues to sabotage the deployment of EU mission then the return of refugees would become impossible, then the Serbs will blame the international community…”

Of course we blame them. If they were serious about human rights and cared about refuges, they would already returned them. Wasn’t eight years not enough?