Gendarmes deal with fresh trouble

Serbia needs to cut all diplomatic and economic ties with Slovenia and Albania. Look for financial investors in countries that are civil to Serbia. Slovenia needs to understand that it cannot gain financially by destroying our country and people. It's to bad that Slavic countries like Poland and Slovenia do not see the danger of being sucked into the German sphere while abandoning their Slavic brothers.

But hooligans that just go to demos to enjoy breaking the law and settle scores with the police have no place in a society ruled by law.
(bganon, 18 February 2008 17:40)

I appreciate your sense of the law... indeed I do not respect these kind of idiots breaking whatever comes, but sorry don't also respect people than just decide to appropriate a piece of land that is belonging to a sovereign state member of the UN. So I suggest you to ask your brothers living in switzerland to get back to 'your region' and stop distributing drugs at the exit of schools, then, yes, I might change my mind how lawful 'your region' became.
We had had numerous refugees coming to switzerland but believe me, your compatriotes are the less welcome and for a good reason, they do no respect the law!
Tell me also, how come for a decade, where the serbs had nothing to say in K, the situation has been getting worst and worst, where have your brothers been, whythey haven't investes in the economy but rather in all sort of trafficking with a great result:
50% enemployment (65% youth)
30% living with 1.4 euros per day and less
10% illeterate,
they had the time for them didn't they!!

10 Hours ago you were reporting that over 60 protests have been injured and at least another 40 riot police were injured..now just a McDonald's is destroyed.

Oh dear, it looks like these criminals still havent got the message.

Serbia is a state where the rule of law should be respected. Just because in the past hooligans were allowed to do what they liked, does not mean that Kosovo can be used as an excuse for criminal activities.

Its time to crackdown against the hooligans. OK if its a proper demonstration that might get out of hand through emotion - that isnt extraordinary and to some degree, understandable.

But hooligans that just go to demos to enjoy breaking the law and settle scores with the police have no place in a society ruled by law.

It looks like Serbia has accepted the KosovA's Independence since there are no normal people protesting, just hooligans.

Bganon (message 3) is wrong. These people are not “hooligans” they are political protestors protesting in the only way left open to them.

International law has been abandoned by the US and EU and a land-grab is underway. Today they grab Kosovo, tomorrow Republika Srpska, then Raska, then Vojvodina.

The only chance Serbia has is to fight the aggressors and it must do this in every way it can.

Personally I do not like to see mobs of angry people roaming the streets, but at times like this it is perhaps understandable.

What Serbians must do is boycott all products and businesses that are linked with this aggression. This means they should boycott Mercator and not burn it down.

If protests are organised then Mercator and other businesses from aggressor countries would be out of business in 3 months.

Serbia is not as weak as it appears, and the aggressors, for all their wealth, are not as strong as they would like you to believe.

Bganon (message 7),

Superficially the rioters on Belgrade’s streets and the Hooligans at a Belgrade football match behave in a similar way: throw rocks at the police, break windows, damage cars. But the Belgrade rioters are not breaking your windows or smashing up your car, they are attacking the property of foreign nations who are attacking and occupying part of Serbia. This is a political act, not mindless Hooliganism.

Oh I should add that if some EU countries recognise Kosovo this evening we should expect larger protests later, with more ordinary people taking part.

I dread to think what might happen in town this evening. If it were warmer tens of thousands might gather.

Michael with all respect you dont know what you are talking about - you arent watching these hooligans with your own eyes. I know football / basketball hooligans when I see them. Lets just say that I have had experience in this field. In Serbia (Delije, Grobari) they even do that wierd march with one arm swinging forward followed by a large lurch forward with the front leg. Thats what these kids are doing.

Serbia is not represented by violent, aggressive, uneducated, young men. A normal protest is attended by a cross section of society (if there are no women in the protest you are either talking about a primative country where women are forced to stay at home - which is not the case in Serbia, or you are talking about violent hooligans that women want to avoid). They are not people, they are young men sporting for a fight with the police.

If it were a cross section of people then excesses would be understandable but this isnt the case.

The swiss I dont understand what you are trying to say at all. my brothers in Switzerland?? drugs??? My compatriotes (typo) dont respect the law. Am I Serbian, Swiss or...?

'they had the time for them didn't they!!

Who had the time for whom?

You need to brush up on your English language skills.

Sorr, Michale Thomas but that is not true. Sunday night, while attacking embassies and McDonald's franchises (which I assume are owned by and employee Serbians) local media was attached, as well as several cars with local tags.

I absolutely agree with bagnon - the violence over the past few days has not been political it has been bored hooligans looking for trouble. How unfortunate that a small group is making it easy to portray Serbs as violent and irrational.

Burning and smashing McDonald's is absurd. Do people not know what a franchise is? Sure McDonald's is an American company and brand, but they franchise that brand to owners who buy it. The owner(s) of those McDonald's are Serbian. They employ Serbs. THey get their products from local Serbian producers. Do these huligani really realize who they are hurting?

As for attacking Mercator centers, there are Serbian shops in there as well. I agree with whoever recommended boycotts as a way to act out. Destroying property only increases prices and rarely has the intended effect of motivating businesses to leave. Look at the McDonald's on Terazije - it's been burned like 4 times now! And yet it's still there.

If it is indeed true that the majority of the "protestors" are high school boys and football fans, then this isn't really political protesting - it's kids gone wild. A big thanks to the brave milicija trying to protect people and property despite the danger.

For your information they are smashing windows (not just embassies), trashing public property and smashing car windows. As you have read they have smashed up some McDonalds (not that I care for McDonalds mind). They also attacked journalists - which I'm sure you will agree, doesnt exactly help the Serb cause.

I remember being young too, I can understand what fun they are having, I really can. They have an excellent allibi in the Kosovo issue as some people will spring to their defence, unless they see it with their own eyes. And even then some have an agenda so they wont admit it (SRS).

Still maybe I can join one of the protests, there is this watch in the centre, in a glass window of a shop on Knez Mihajlova street I have my eye on.

No K-Alb dont try to be underhand. There have been normal protests as well. I'm talking about the hooligan element who should be sanctioned for their actions.

10 Hours ago you were reporting that over 60 protests have been injured and at least another 40 riot police were injured..now just a McDonald's is destroyed.

Oh dear, it looks like these criminals still havent got the message.

Serbia is a state where the rule of law should be respected. Just because in the past hooligans were allowed to do what they liked, does not mean that Kosovo can be used as an excuse for criminal activities.

Its time to crackdown against the hooligans. OK if its a proper demonstration that might get out of hand through emotion - that isnt extraordinary and to some degree, understandable.

But hooligans that just go to demos to enjoy breaking the law and settle scores with the police have no place in a society ruled by law.

It looks like Serbia has accepted the KosovA's Independence since there are no normal people protesting, just hooligans.

Serbia needs to cut all diplomatic and economic ties with Slovenia and Albania. Look for financial investors in countries that are civil to Serbia. Slovenia needs to understand that it cannot gain financially by destroying our country and people. It's to bad that Slavic countries like Poland and Slovenia do not see the danger of being sucked into the German sphere while abandoning their Slavic brothers.

But hooligans that just go to demos to enjoy breaking the law and settle scores with the police have no place in a society ruled by law.
(bganon, 18 February 2008 17:40)

I appreciate your sense of the law... indeed I do not respect these kind of idiots breaking whatever comes, but sorry don't also respect people than just decide to appropriate a piece of land that is belonging to a sovereign state member of the UN. So I suggest you to ask your brothers living in switzerland to get back to 'your region' and stop distributing drugs at the exit of schools, then, yes, I might change my mind how lawful 'your region' became.
We had had numerous refugees coming to switzerland but believe me, your compatriotes are the less welcome and for a good reason, they do no respect the law!
Tell me also, how come for a decade, where the serbs had nothing to say in K, the situation has been getting worst and worst, where have your brothers been, whythey haven't investes in the economy but rather in all sort of trafficking with a great result:
50% enemployment (65% youth)
30% living with 1.4 euros per day and less
10% illeterate,
they had the time for them didn't they!!

Michael with all respect you dont know what you are talking about - you arent watching these hooligans with your own eyes. I know football / basketball hooligans when I see them. Lets just say that I have had experience in this field. In Serbia (Delije, Grobari) they even do that wierd march with one arm swinging forward followed by a large lurch forward with the front leg. Thats what these kids are doing.

Serbia is not represented by violent, aggressive, uneducated, young men. A normal protest is attended by a cross section of society (if there are no women in the protest you are either talking about a primative country where women are forced to stay at home - which is not the case in Serbia, or you are talking about violent hooligans that women want to avoid). They are not people, they are young men sporting for a fight with the police.

If it were a cross section of people then excesses would be understandable but this isnt the case.

The swiss I dont understand what you are trying to say at all. my brothers in Switzerland?? drugs??? My compatriotes (typo) dont respect the law. Am I Serbian, Swiss or...?

'they had the time for them didn't they!!

Who had the time for whom?

You need to brush up on your English language skills.

Oh I should add that if some EU countries recognise Kosovo this evening we should expect larger protests later, with more ordinary people taking part.

I dread to think what might happen in town this evening. If it were warmer tens of thousands might gather.

Bganon (message 3) is wrong. These people are not “hooligans” they are political protestors protesting in the only way left open to them.

International law has been abandoned by the US and EU and a land-grab is underway. Today they grab Kosovo, tomorrow Republika Srpska, then Raska, then Vojvodina.

The only chance Serbia has is to fight the aggressors and it must do this in every way it can.

Personally I do not like to see mobs of angry people roaming the streets, but at times like this it is perhaps understandable.

What Serbians must do is boycott all products and businesses that are linked with this aggression. This means they should boycott Mercator and not burn it down.

If protests are organised then Mercator and other businesses from aggressor countries would be out of business in 3 months.

Serbia is not as weak as it appears, and the aggressors, for all their wealth, are not as strong as they would like you to believe.

Bganon (message 7),

Superficially the rioters on Belgrade’s streets and the Hooligans at a Belgrade football match behave in a similar way: throw rocks at the police, break windows, damage cars. But the Belgrade rioters are not breaking your windows or smashing up your car, they are attacking the property of foreign nations who are attacking and occupying part of Serbia. This is a political act, not mindless Hooliganism.

For your information they are smashing windows (not just embassies), trashing public property and smashing car windows. As you have read they have smashed up some McDonalds (not that I care for McDonalds mind). They also attacked journalists - which I'm sure you will agree, doesnt exactly help the Serb cause.

I remember being young too, I can understand what fun they are having, I really can. They have an excellent allibi in the Kosovo issue as some people will spring to their defence, unless they see it with their own eyes. And even then some have an agenda so they wont admit it (SRS).

Still maybe I can join one of the protests, there is this watch in the centre, in a glass window of a shop on Knez Mihajlova street I have my eye on.

No K-Alb dont try to be underhand. There have been normal protests as well. I'm talking about the hooligan element who should be sanctioned for their actions.

Sorr, Michale Thomas but that is not true. Sunday night, while attacking embassies and McDonald's franchises (which I assume are owned by and employee Serbians) local media was attached, as well as several cars with local tags.

I absolutely agree with bagnon - the violence over the past few days has not been political it has been bored hooligans looking for trouble. How unfortunate that a small group is making it easy to portray Serbs as violent and irrational.

Burning and smashing McDonald's is absurd. Do people not know what a franchise is? Sure McDonald's is an American company and brand, but they franchise that brand to owners who buy it. The owner(s) of those McDonald's are Serbian. They employ Serbs. THey get their products from local Serbian producers. Do these huligani really realize who they are hurting?

As for attacking Mercator centers, there are Serbian shops in there as well. I agree with whoever recommended boycotts as a way to act out. Destroying property only increases prices and rarely has the intended effect of motivating businesses to leave. Look at the McDonald's on Terazije - it's been burned like 4 times now! And yet it's still there.

If it is indeed true that the majority of the "protestors" are high school boys and football fans, then this isn't really political protesting - it's kids gone wild. A big thanks to the brave milicija trying to protect people and property despite the danger.