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Friday, 08.02.2008.

16:40

Row over Macedonian church

A row has flared over the construction of an Orthodox church in Macedonia.

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joe

pre 16 godina

So, historian call, you see the negativity in historical revisionism! Then I have made my point. Stopping revisionist slander does not just apply when albanians are targets, but everybody should have this right. Such as claims that places like Decani are really albanian later claimed by serbs.

By the way, you don't see the irony in Ptolemy's argument? He is claiming that Serbs stole Kosovo's history (so, he claims that all the hundreds of ancient churches in Kosovo are really albanian??), but yet he (clearly an Albanian) has taken a pseudonym of a Greek Egyptian. What is he then stealing?

Dimitar

pre 16 godina

Individuals who give selflessly to others are beyond petty nationalism! Mother Teresa gave to the poor and downtrodden without asking anything in return. She was a lover of God first and foremost.
I wish those that share her nationality would follow her example, even a little bit. By the way, Ptoleme, that's a Macedonian name you've stolen, so stop being a hypocrite. Today's Bitola derives from Ptoleme, Ptol, Btol, Bitola! Finally, its our country, we can do what we want!! I wish Albanians would offer something constructive... just once!!

Historian call

pre 16 godina

"Ptolome: You've really got your head buried in the sand. The Albanians built the churches in Kosovo?
Why don't you call a historian and ask him or her?
Sounds to me like you are jealous! BTW, from what I understand, mother teresa's father was not an ethnic albanian, but armenian or something."

Joe, by this statement you just proved Ptoleme's. Agnes Gonxha (Albanian for "rosebud") Bojaxhiu was born on 26 August 1910, in Skopje,Macedonia.She was the youngest of the children of a family from Shkodër, Albania, born to Nikola Bojaxhiu and Dranafile Bojaxhiu (Albanian for "rose").

dralboluv@yahoo.com

pre 16 godina

Joe, it is kind of funny that you would say that considering that when she was interviewed by ABC network in the 1980's she was quoted in her own words that she was ethnic albanian. Also, in the Vatican Records they have her nationality written in her own handwriting saying she is ethnic albanian. And, in reference to her father being armeinain, her father actually was one of the members of the league of prizren and fought in the unification of the ethnic albanian populated lands of the time. But, I believe that if you are going to build something in Skopje/Shkup, they should build a museum in her honor at that site, instead of building a mosque in Tetovo/Tetova, or the Church in the capital. I think we have enough churches and mosques in the country, but nothing to remember such a powerful human being that broke religious, racial, and ethnic barriers. I think all macedonian citizens can better themselves and future generations if they were to build such a memorial for her and truly keep her memory and ideas in all of our hearts.

joe

pre 16 godina

Ptolome: You've really got your head buried in the sand. The Albanians built the churches in Kosovo?

Why don't you call a historian and ask him or her?
Sounds to me like you are jealous! BTW, from what I understand, mother teresa's father was not an ethnic albanian, but armenian or something.

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

Yeah Delije, they can build it and then later claim that she was Slavic Macedonian on behalf of the Orthodox Church, stealing other people's culture, as they have done with Classic Greeks, Illyrians, and Macedonians.

The same thing Serbs did in their "resettlement" in Kosovo.

Marko

pre 16 godina

The truth is that a Macedonian church existed there until the massive earthquake in '63 destroyed it, the communists never rebuilt the church so it's being done now.
albanians are too busy trying to destroy churches..so you can imagine the anger they feel.
But crying/lying to the West is to be expected, the church will be rebuilt.

Delije

pre 16 godina

Build it!!!! build a beautiful Macedonian Orthodox church their in her memory. Name it after her and everything. What does she only belong to the catholic Albanians or to everyone of whatever religion.

Marko

pre 16 godina

The truth is that a Macedonian church existed there until the massive earthquake in '63 destroyed it, the communists never rebuilt the church so it's being done now.
albanians are too busy trying to destroy churches..so you can imagine the anger they feel.
But crying/lying to the West is to be expected, the church will be rebuilt.

Delije

pre 16 godina

Build it!!!! build a beautiful Macedonian Orthodox church their in her memory. Name it after her and everything. What does she only belong to the catholic Albanians or to everyone of whatever religion.

joe

pre 16 godina

Ptolome: You've really got your head buried in the sand. The Albanians built the churches in Kosovo?

Why don't you call a historian and ask him or her?
Sounds to me like you are jealous! BTW, from what I understand, mother teresa's father was not an ethnic albanian, but armenian or something.

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

Yeah Delije, they can build it and then later claim that she was Slavic Macedonian on behalf of the Orthodox Church, stealing other people's culture, as they have done with Classic Greeks, Illyrians, and Macedonians.

The same thing Serbs did in their "resettlement" in Kosovo.

dralboluv@yahoo.com

pre 16 godina

Joe, it is kind of funny that you would say that considering that when she was interviewed by ABC network in the 1980's she was quoted in her own words that she was ethnic albanian. Also, in the Vatican Records they have her nationality written in her own handwriting saying she is ethnic albanian. And, in reference to her father being armeinain, her father actually was one of the members of the league of prizren and fought in the unification of the ethnic albanian populated lands of the time. But, I believe that if you are going to build something in Skopje/Shkup, they should build a museum in her honor at that site, instead of building a mosque in Tetovo/Tetova, or the Church in the capital. I think we have enough churches and mosques in the country, but nothing to remember such a powerful human being that broke religious, racial, and ethnic barriers. I think all macedonian citizens can better themselves and future generations if they were to build such a memorial for her and truly keep her memory and ideas in all of our hearts.

Dimitar

pre 16 godina

Individuals who give selflessly to others are beyond petty nationalism! Mother Teresa gave to the poor and downtrodden without asking anything in return. She was a lover of God first and foremost.
I wish those that share her nationality would follow her example, even a little bit. By the way, Ptoleme, that's a Macedonian name you've stolen, so stop being a hypocrite. Today's Bitola derives from Ptoleme, Ptol, Btol, Bitola! Finally, its our country, we can do what we want!! I wish Albanians would offer something constructive... just once!!

joe

pre 16 godina

So, historian call, you see the negativity in historical revisionism! Then I have made my point. Stopping revisionist slander does not just apply when albanians are targets, but everybody should have this right. Such as claims that places like Decani are really albanian later claimed by serbs.

By the way, you don't see the irony in Ptolemy's argument? He is claiming that Serbs stole Kosovo's history (so, he claims that all the hundreds of ancient churches in Kosovo are really albanian??), but yet he (clearly an Albanian) has taken a pseudonym of a Greek Egyptian. What is he then stealing?

Historian call

pre 16 godina

"Ptolome: You've really got your head buried in the sand. The Albanians built the churches in Kosovo?
Why don't you call a historian and ask him or her?
Sounds to me like you are jealous! BTW, from what I understand, mother teresa's father was not an ethnic albanian, but armenian or something."

Joe, by this statement you just proved Ptoleme's. Agnes Gonxha (Albanian for "rosebud") Bojaxhiu was born on 26 August 1910, in Skopje,Macedonia.She was the youngest of the children of a family from Shkodër, Albania, born to Nikola Bojaxhiu and Dranafile Bojaxhiu (Albanian for "rose").

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

Yeah Delije, they can build it and then later claim that she was Slavic Macedonian on behalf of the Orthodox Church, stealing other people's culture, as they have done with Classic Greeks, Illyrians, and Macedonians.

The same thing Serbs did in their "resettlement" in Kosovo.

Marko

pre 16 godina

The truth is that a Macedonian church existed there until the massive earthquake in '63 destroyed it, the communists never rebuilt the church so it's being done now.
albanians are too busy trying to destroy churches..so you can imagine the anger they feel.
But crying/lying to the West is to be expected, the church will be rebuilt.

Dimitar

pre 16 godina

Individuals who give selflessly to others are beyond petty nationalism! Mother Teresa gave to the poor and downtrodden without asking anything in return. She was a lover of God first and foremost.
I wish those that share her nationality would follow her example, even a little bit. By the way, Ptoleme, that's a Macedonian name you've stolen, so stop being a hypocrite. Today's Bitola derives from Ptoleme, Ptol, Btol, Bitola! Finally, its our country, we can do what we want!! I wish Albanians would offer something constructive... just once!!

joe

pre 16 godina

So, historian call, you see the negativity in historical revisionism! Then I have made my point. Stopping revisionist slander does not just apply when albanians are targets, but everybody should have this right. Such as claims that places like Decani are really albanian later claimed by serbs.

By the way, you don't see the irony in Ptolemy's argument? He is claiming that Serbs stole Kosovo's history (so, he claims that all the hundreds of ancient churches in Kosovo are really albanian??), but yet he (clearly an Albanian) has taken a pseudonym of a Greek Egyptian. What is he then stealing?

joe

pre 16 godina

Ptolome: You've really got your head buried in the sand. The Albanians built the churches in Kosovo?

Why don't you call a historian and ask him or her?
Sounds to me like you are jealous! BTW, from what I understand, mother teresa's father was not an ethnic albanian, but armenian or something.

Delije

pre 16 godina

Build it!!!! build a beautiful Macedonian Orthodox church their in her memory. Name it after her and everything. What does she only belong to the catholic Albanians or to everyone of whatever religion.

dralboluv@yahoo.com

pre 16 godina

Joe, it is kind of funny that you would say that considering that when she was interviewed by ABC network in the 1980's she was quoted in her own words that she was ethnic albanian. Also, in the Vatican Records they have her nationality written in her own handwriting saying she is ethnic albanian. And, in reference to her father being armeinain, her father actually was one of the members of the league of prizren and fought in the unification of the ethnic albanian populated lands of the time. But, I believe that if you are going to build something in Skopje/Shkup, they should build a museum in her honor at that site, instead of building a mosque in Tetovo/Tetova, or the Church in the capital. I think we have enough churches and mosques in the country, but nothing to remember such a powerful human being that broke religious, racial, and ethnic barriers. I think all macedonian citizens can better themselves and future generations if they were to build such a memorial for her and truly keep her memory and ideas in all of our hearts.

Historian call

pre 16 godina

"Ptolome: You've really got your head buried in the sand. The Albanians built the churches in Kosovo?
Why don't you call a historian and ask him or her?
Sounds to me like you are jealous! BTW, from what I understand, mother teresa's father was not an ethnic albanian, but armenian or something."

Joe, by this statement you just proved Ptoleme's. Agnes Gonxha (Albanian for "rosebud") Bojaxhiu was born on 26 August 1910, in Skopje,Macedonia.She was the youngest of the children of a family from Shkodër, Albania, born to Nikola Bojaxhiu and Dranafile Bojaxhiu (Albanian for "rose").