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Thursday, 07.02.2008.

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Analyst: EU offer fine, timing dreadful

Two Serbia-related moves the EU made on Monday were an example of "dreadful timing", Ivo Visković says.

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Richard Z

pre 16 godina

Ben perhaps it would help to read the article first, and also to understand what democracy is.

Zk how long do you want us to wait to move furture, and what do you think the outcome of the Kosovo status will be. We'll end losing both Kosovo and the E.U. if this continues. The E.U. doesn't have to offer us the agreement, the E.U. doesn't need us to join them.

As for bmrusila answer to why now? The SAA agreement could have been signed long time ago. Again I have to ask how much longer do you want to wait? Forever if it's up to people like Kostunica.

The best way to keep Kosovo would have been if we were in the E.U. If this foolish regim keeps playing this game we will lose Kosovo and only will be able to join the E.U. if we reckognise it's independence.

We are better of having the benefits this agreement brings and moving closer to the E.U.

Ataman

pre 16 godina

guys what is in that contract? Is there any slightest hint at Serbian citizens being of "Serbian" (=better) kind and "Albanian"-Kosovar (=second class) with visas, etc? If no, than OK. If yes, it's an evil pact and than maybe K-Albanians would be better to see that pact and think about such "friends".

ben

pre 16 godina

This is what I say analyst- the proposal ok but teh timing is very bad.

I mean there is no democracy in serbia, maybe in 15y- Nikolic had 50% of the votes- and we want to speak of democracy???

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

I think he is missing the point here. His views are only two dimensional. It's not a matter of whether the agreement has anything to do with Kosovo, BUT what signing the agreement implies.

Whilst the EU has a choice between Serbia/Russia or Kosovo, the decision is ever so complicated. BUT, as soon as Serbia signs its intention to join the EU, that choice disappears as the EU can then have both Serbia and Kosovo!

Until Kosovo's status is finalised there should be no signing of agreements with parties wishing for the dismemberment of Serbia. Serbia's integrity is at risk and if we don't respect that, neither will anyone else!

Serbia is prospering as we speak so it's not like it will be missing out economically. The harder the game, the larger the EU carrot so this stance should only help Serbia! Win/Win if the cards are played right!

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

"one of those awkward and clumsy things" that "often happen to international officials when Serbia and the Kosovo problem are concerned."
- oh dear it was clumsy but it does not matter we can break international laws and you will have to accept the partition of your state - ohh so clumsy !

Lets be clear the EU decided in private that the illegal mission will go ahead on the Friday prior to the elections - i.e. they did not care for Tadic if he lost or won. They made it public on Monady once all decisions were in and more importantly even after it became evident that Tadic had won!!

If the EU acts roughshod of all it's own values and principles in forcing and imposing its illegal mission surely Serbia should rightfully question the integrity of any document or agreement that the EU propose ?

Why shouldn't Serbia be weary to sign this Faustian contract ?

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

"I read carefully the proposed accord and absolutely found no link between it and Kosovo," Visković said.

-Of course, they are not so naive to state in the agreement that this political deal or interim agreement means please “close the eye” on the illegal mission. Not a one agreement will say that but the key question is what is all behind that agreement. Besides, the interim agreement did mention it is only applicable in Serbia without Kosovo as its southern province.

Another question is why to wait for so long to offer such trivial agreement? Why now just before Kosovo status resolving? It is because they want to buy as cheap as possible. It looks like that for their illegal mission they offer interim agreement and for Serbia’s signature on independence they will offer SAA without Mladic. And that is how they are planning to buy us all only for some papers in form of interim deal and SAA which give guarantees for nothing. For the EU entrance there would be new conditions just the same as for Turkey. It is enough to see what is happening in Croatia nowadays and what is she asked to do with its protection of fishing zone.

Lenard

pre 16 godina

It is amazing how many Serb apologizest their are fore the European Common Market. Thats exactly what it is not some demigod and savior of your countries like some are treating them portray it and believe it is. That is what Brussels technocrats and has been politicians like you to believe it seems they are doing a good job of pulling the wool over their eyes. It is a market and some would like to sell their countries cheap to the market on their word and say so on cheap empty meaningless promises on some pieces of paper. Now these technocrats and has been politicians of Brussels are beginning to believe they are,are now acting accordingly to the legitimacy these people bestow on them and let them be To the determines of their countries to exist and run their own affairs and not be some lackeys to Brussels big self serving members interests and agendas how hide behind the organization to use it to further own self serving interest greed filled goals. Whether they are big or small to get what they want legally or a lot of times illegally and yous bully ,gang ,coursion arm twisting tactics. Then the country pretends and say to the contrary of the self serving evidence it is not them but Brussels. Which is usually are both involved backing each others politicians with the same self serving agendas. Serbia should form a government of Unity of all parties to stand to these Brussels bullies. Not stab each other in the back and do the EU dirty work and of the self serving members of it.

Richard Z

pre 16 godina

Visković is right on all accounts. There is no link to Kosovo, the agreement should be signed, and the E.U. has a dreadfull timing. There was absolutly no rush and need to made the announcement of sending its mision to Kosovo. It's not even in the benefit of the albanians and Kosovo itself, and it wouldn't even have hurt them to make the announcement one week later.

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

I think he is missing the point here. His views are only two dimensional. It's not a matter of whether the agreement has anything to do with Kosovo, BUT what signing the agreement implies.

Whilst the EU has a choice between Serbia/Russia or Kosovo, the decision is ever so complicated. BUT, as soon as Serbia signs its intention to join the EU, that choice disappears as the EU can then have both Serbia and Kosovo!

Until Kosovo's status is finalised there should be no signing of agreements with parties wishing for the dismemberment of Serbia. Serbia's integrity is at risk and if we don't respect that, neither will anyone else!

Serbia is prospering as we speak so it's not like it will be missing out economically. The harder the game, the larger the EU carrot so this stance should only help Serbia! Win/Win if the cards are played right!

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

"I read carefully the proposed accord and absolutely found no link between it and Kosovo," Visković said.

-Of course, they are not so naive to state in the agreement that this political deal or interim agreement means please “close the eye” on the illegal mission. Not a one agreement will say that but the key question is what is all behind that agreement. Besides, the interim agreement did mention it is only applicable in Serbia without Kosovo as its southern province.

Another question is why to wait for so long to offer such trivial agreement? Why now just before Kosovo status resolving? It is because they want to buy as cheap as possible. It looks like that for their illegal mission they offer interim agreement and for Serbia’s signature on independence they will offer SAA without Mladic. And that is how they are planning to buy us all only for some papers in form of interim deal and SAA which give guarantees for nothing. For the EU entrance there would be new conditions just the same as for Turkey. It is enough to see what is happening in Croatia nowadays and what is she asked to do with its protection of fishing zone.

Lenard

pre 16 godina

It is amazing how many Serb apologizest their are fore the European Common Market. Thats exactly what it is not some demigod and savior of your countries like some are treating them portray it and believe it is. That is what Brussels technocrats and has been politicians like you to believe it seems they are doing a good job of pulling the wool over their eyes. It is a market and some would like to sell their countries cheap to the market on their word and say so on cheap empty meaningless promises on some pieces of paper. Now these technocrats and has been politicians of Brussels are beginning to believe they are,are now acting accordingly to the legitimacy these people bestow on them and let them be To the determines of their countries to exist and run their own affairs and not be some lackeys to Brussels big self serving members interests and agendas how hide behind the organization to use it to further own self serving interest greed filled goals. Whether they are big or small to get what they want legally or a lot of times illegally and yous bully ,gang ,coursion arm twisting tactics. Then the country pretends and say to the contrary of the self serving evidence it is not them but Brussels. Which is usually are both involved backing each others politicians with the same self serving agendas. Serbia should form a government of Unity of all parties to stand to these Brussels bullies. Not stab each other in the back and do the EU dirty work and of the self serving members of it.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

"one of those awkward and clumsy things" that "often happen to international officials when Serbia and the Kosovo problem are concerned."
- oh dear it was clumsy but it does not matter we can break international laws and you will have to accept the partition of your state - ohh so clumsy !

Lets be clear the EU decided in private that the illegal mission will go ahead on the Friday prior to the elections - i.e. they did not care for Tadic if he lost or won. They made it public on Monady once all decisions were in and more importantly even after it became evident that Tadic had won!!

If the EU acts roughshod of all it's own values and principles in forcing and imposing its illegal mission surely Serbia should rightfully question the integrity of any document or agreement that the EU propose ?

Why shouldn't Serbia be weary to sign this Faustian contract ?

Richard Z

pre 16 godina

Visković is right on all accounts. There is no link to Kosovo, the agreement should be signed, and the E.U. has a dreadfull timing. There was absolutly no rush and need to made the announcement of sending its mision to Kosovo. It's not even in the benefit of the albanians and Kosovo itself, and it wouldn't even have hurt them to make the announcement one week later.

ben

pre 16 godina

This is what I say analyst- the proposal ok but teh timing is very bad.

I mean there is no democracy in serbia, maybe in 15y- Nikolic had 50% of the votes- and we want to speak of democracy???

Ataman

pre 16 godina

guys what is in that contract? Is there any slightest hint at Serbian citizens being of "Serbian" (=better) kind and "Albanian"-Kosovar (=second class) with visas, etc? If no, than OK. If yes, it's an evil pact and than maybe K-Albanians would be better to see that pact and think about such "friends".

Richard Z

pre 16 godina

Ben perhaps it would help to read the article first, and also to understand what democracy is.

Zk how long do you want us to wait to move furture, and what do you think the outcome of the Kosovo status will be. We'll end losing both Kosovo and the E.U. if this continues. The E.U. doesn't have to offer us the agreement, the E.U. doesn't need us to join them.

As for bmrusila answer to why now? The SAA agreement could have been signed long time ago. Again I have to ask how much longer do you want to wait? Forever if it's up to people like Kostunica.

The best way to keep Kosovo would have been if we were in the E.U. If this foolish regim keeps playing this game we will lose Kosovo and only will be able to join the E.U. if we reckognise it's independence.

We are better of having the benefits this agreement brings and moving closer to the E.U.

ben

pre 16 godina

This is what I say analyst- the proposal ok but teh timing is very bad.

I mean there is no democracy in serbia, maybe in 15y- Nikolic had 50% of the votes- and we want to speak of democracy???

Lenard

pre 16 godina

It is amazing how many Serb apologizest their are fore the European Common Market. Thats exactly what it is not some demigod and savior of your countries like some are treating them portray it and believe it is. That is what Brussels technocrats and has been politicians like you to believe it seems they are doing a good job of pulling the wool over their eyes. It is a market and some would like to sell their countries cheap to the market on their word and say so on cheap empty meaningless promises on some pieces of paper. Now these technocrats and has been politicians of Brussels are beginning to believe they are,are now acting accordingly to the legitimacy these people bestow on them and let them be To the determines of their countries to exist and run their own affairs and not be some lackeys to Brussels big self serving members interests and agendas how hide behind the organization to use it to further own self serving interest greed filled goals. Whether they are big or small to get what they want legally or a lot of times illegally and yous bully ,gang ,coursion arm twisting tactics. Then the country pretends and say to the contrary of the self serving evidence it is not them but Brussels. Which is usually are both involved backing each others politicians with the same self serving agendas. Serbia should form a government of Unity of all parties to stand to these Brussels bullies. Not stab each other in the back and do the EU dirty work and of the self serving members of it.

Richard Z

pre 16 godina

Visković is right on all accounts. There is no link to Kosovo, the agreement should be signed, and the E.U. has a dreadfull timing. There was absolutly no rush and need to made the announcement of sending its mision to Kosovo. It's not even in the benefit of the albanians and Kosovo itself, and it wouldn't even have hurt them to make the announcement one week later.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

"I read carefully the proposed accord and absolutely found no link between it and Kosovo," Visković said.

-Of course, they are not so naive to state in the agreement that this political deal or interim agreement means please “close the eye” on the illegal mission. Not a one agreement will say that but the key question is what is all behind that agreement. Besides, the interim agreement did mention it is only applicable in Serbia without Kosovo as its southern province.

Another question is why to wait for so long to offer such trivial agreement? Why now just before Kosovo status resolving? It is because they want to buy as cheap as possible. It looks like that for their illegal mission they offer interim agreement and for Serbia’s signature on independence they will offer SAA without Mladic. And that is how they are planning to buy us all only for some papers in form of interim deal and SAA which give guarantees for nothing. For the EU entrance there would be new conditions just the same as for Turkey. It is enough to see what is happening in Croatia nowadays and what is she asked to do with its protection of fishing zone.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

"one of those awkward and clumsy things" that "often happen to international officials when Serbia and the Kosovo problem are concerned."
- oh dear it was clumsy but it does not matter we can break international laws and you will have to accept the partition of your state - ohh so clumsy !

Lets be clear the EU decided in private that the illegal mission will go ahead on the Friday prior to the elections - i.e. they did not care for Tadic if he lost or won. They made it public on Monady once all decisions were in and more importantly even after it became evident that Tadic had won!!

If the EU acts roughshod of all it's own values and principles in forcing and imposing its illegal mission surely Serbia should rightfully question the integrity of any document or agreement that the EU propose ?

Why shouldn't Serbia be weary to sign this Faustian contract ?

ZK UK

pre 16 godina

I think he is missing the point here. His views are only two dimensional. It's not a matter of whether the agreement has anything to do with Kosovo, BUT what signing the agreement implies.

Whilst the EU has a choice between Serbia/Russia or Kosovo, the decision is ever so complicated. BUT, as soon as Serbia signs its intention to join the EU, that choice disappears as the EU can then have both Serbia and Kosovo!

Until Kosovo's status is finalised there should be no signing of agreements with parties wishing for the dismemberment of Serbia. Serbia's integrity is at risk and if we don't respect that, neither will anyone else!

Serbia is prospering as we speak so it's not like it will be missing out economically. The harder the game, the larger the EU carrot so this stance should only help Serbia! Win/Win if the cards are played right!

Ataman

pre 16 godina

guys what is in that contract? Is there any slightest hint at Serbian citizens being of "Serbian" (=better) kind and "Albanian"-Kosovar (=second class) with visas, etc? If no, than OK. If yes, it's an evil pact and than maybe K-Albanians would be better to see that pact and think about such "friends".

Richard Z

pre 16 godina

Ben perhaps it would help to read the article first, and also to understand what democracy is.

Zk how long do you want us to wait to move furture, and what do you think the outcome of the Kosovo status will be. We'll end losing both Kosovo and the E.U. if this continues. The E.U. doesn't have to offer us the agreement, the E.U. doesn't need us to join them.

As for bmrusila answer to why now? The SAA agreement could have been signed long time ago. Again I have to ask how much longer do you want to wait? Forever if it's up to people like Kostunica.

The best way to keep Kosovo would have been if we were in the E.U. If this foolish regim keeps playing this game we will lose Kosovo and only will be able to join the E.U. if we reckognise it's independence.

We are better of having the benefits this agreement brings and moving closer to the E.U.