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Wednesday, 30.01.2008.

18:56

Witness: Greater Serbia never existed

At the Hague trial of Vojislav Šešelj today, Yves TomiC said Serbia had never existed in the frontiers of Greater Serbia.

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Al

pre 16 godina

Don't worry, Alex, I haven't forgotten about the Greater Croatia that existed in WW2. (Albeit a "Greater Croatia" that had to do without certain chunks of "Croatian" territory that the Italians and Hungarians had annexed.)
What's more, I deliberately did NOT refer to the 2nd Yugoslavia as "Greater Serbia", seeing as socialist Yugoslavia was a federal state for a while, unlike the centralised state of the Karadjordjevici. I believe that the 2nd Yugoslavia deserves to be mourned, but that it wasn't killed by separatist nationalists alone but also by centralist nationalists!
Referring to the 2nd Yugoslavia as "Greater Croatia" just because Tito wasn't an ethnic Serb and some of the countries and regions that Serbia had acquired since the Balkan Wars were removed from direct Serbian control is ridiculous, however.
The only other entity that might be reasonably considered as constituting a "Greater Croatia" is the Banovina Hrvatska created in accordance with the Sporazum of 1939. If Tito's Yugoslavia was a state under Croatian hegemony, how explain all the Croatian grievances that led to mass protests in the 1960s and 70s? Let's face it, the man had little time for Serb nationalists but he certainly wasn't a Croatian one either...

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

It amazing that Dahl is allowed to go on much longer. Her "evidence" is more and more astonishing, what will be the next step?

Citing scripts from the 50:s that qoute Joe MCCarthy saying that Tito was a communist and therefore Seselj is guilty of genocide?

SinCity

pre 16 godina

I commend Mr Tomic for truthfully stating the manner in which Serbs like Seselj and Milosevic aimed to carve out a Greater Serbia at the expense of other nations.

Alex

pre 16 godina

Al, you have it wrong a bit...Greater Serbia hasn't existed but a Greater Croatia did twice...World War 2 and then again in Tito's Yugoslavia because last time I checked he was a Croat-Slovene that reduced "Greater Serbia" supposed lands into 5 equal republics and 2 autonomous provinces (which were basically republics too). I think people need to stop with this that Greater Serbia was Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was a creation by the Great Powers after World War I after the collapse of Austria-Hungary.

But even though what it was, either favoring Serb or not, Yugoslavia brought something to all of its people and that was peace and prosperity, but it seems everyone forgets that...instead they are too busy drumming up old stubborn nationalist ideas that do not make sense half of the time.

al couts

pre 16 godina

Yves Tomic is an academic joke. His testimony on behalf of the prosecution demonstrates the ICTY's inability to find and factual and credible evidence against what they have accused Seselj of, a man guilty of nothing more than the patriotic love of his people and nation. Tomic is obviously being paid handsomely by his Franco-German puppetmasters. The ICTY is reaching far into its bag of magic tricks and has found this second rate academic from some second rate academic institution in none other than a country that has Serbian blood on its hands. Shame on you Mr. Tomic. Shame on you ICTY

Al

pre 16 godina

Tch, what a foolish man this Yves Tomić must be. Of course Greater Serbia existed: it's just that it was called the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes at the time...

Alex

pre 16 godina

Al, you have it wrong a bit...Greater Serbia hasn't existed but a Greater Croatia did twice...World War 2 and then again in Tito's Yugoslavia because last time I checked he was a Croat-Slovene that reduced "Greater Serbia" supposed lands into 5 equal republics and 2 autonomous provinces (which were basically republics too). I think people need to stop with this that Greater Serbia was Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was a creation by the Great Powers after World War I after the collapse of Austria-Hungary.

But even though what it was, either favoring Serb or not, Yugoslavia brought something to all of its people and that was peace and prosperity, but it seems everyone forgets that...instead they are too busy drumming up old stubborn nationalist ideas that do not make sense half of the time.

al couts

pre 16 godina

Yves Tomic is an academic joke. His testimony on behalf of the prosecution demonstrates the ICTY's inability to find and factual and credible evidence against what they have accused Seselj of, a man guilty of nothing more than the patriotic love of his people and nation. Tomic is obviously being paid handsomely by his Franco-German puppetmasters. The ICTY is reaching far into its bag of magic tricks and has found this second rate academic from some second rate academic institution in none other than a country that has Serbian blood on its hands. Shame on you Mr. Tomic. Shame on you ICTY

Al

pre 16 godina

Tch, what a foolish man this Yves Tomić must be. Of course Greater Serbia existed: it's just that it was called the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes at the time...

SinCity

pre 16 godina

I commend Mr Tomic for truthfully stating the manner in which Serbs like Seselj and Milosevic aimed to carve out a Greater Serbia at the expense of other nations.

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

It amazing that Dahl is allowed to go on much longer. Her "evidence" is more and more astonishing, what will be the next step?

Citing scripts from the 50:s that qoute Joe MCCarthy saying that Tito was a communist and therefore Seselj is guilty of genocide?

Al

pre 16 godina

Don't worry, Alex, I haven't forgotten about the Greater Croatia that existed in WW2. (Albeit a "Greater Croatia" that had to do without certain chunks of "Croatian" territory that the Italians and Hungarians had annexed.)
What's more, I deliberately did NOT refer to the 2nd Yugoslavia as "Greater Serbia", seeing as socialist Yugoslavia was a federal state for a while, unlike the centralised state of the Karadjordjevici. I believe that the 2nd Yugoslavia deserves to be mourned, but that it wasn't killed by separatist nationalists alone but also by centralist nationalists!
Referring to the 2nd Yugoslavia as "Greater Croatia" just because Tito wasn't an ethnic Serb and some of the countries and regions that Serbia had acquired since the Balkan Wars were removed from direct Serbian control is ridiculous, however.
The only other entity that might be reasonably considered as constituting a "Greater Croatia" is the Banovina Hrvatska created in accordance with the Sporazum of 1939. If Tito's Yugoslavia was a state under Croatian hegemony, how explain all the Croatian grievances that led to mass protests in the 1960s and 70s? Let's face it, the man had little time for Serb nationalists but he certainly wasn't a Croatian one either...

Al

pre 16 godina

Tch, what a foolish man this Yves Tomić must be. Of course Greater Serbia existed: it's just that it was called the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes at the time...

al couts

pre 16 godina

Yves Tomic is an academic joke. His testimony on behalf of the prosecution demonstrates the ICTY's inability to find and factual and credible evidence against what they have accused Seselj of, a man guilty of nothing more than the patriotic love of his people and nation. Tomic is obviously being paid handsomely by his Franco-German puppetmasters. The ICTY is reaching far into its bag of magic tricks and has found this second rate academic from some second rate academic institution in none other than a country that has Serbian blood on its hands. Shame on you Mr. Tomic. Shame on you ICTY

SinCity

pre 16 godina

I commend Mr Tomic for truthfully stating the manner in which Serbs like Seselj and Milosevic aimed to carve out a Greater Serbia at the expense of other nations.

Alex

pre 16 godina

Al, you have it wrong a bit...Greater Serbia hasn't existed but a Greater Croatia did twice...World War 2 and then again in Tito's Yugoslavia because last time I checked he was a Croat-Slovene that reduced "Greater Serbia" supposed lands into 5 equal republics and 2 autonomous provinces (which were basically republics too). I think people need to stop with this that Greater Serbia was Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was a creation by the Great Powers after World War I after the collapse of Austria-Hungary.

But even though what it was, either favoring Serb or not, Yugoslavia brought something to all of its people and that was peace and prosperity, but it seems everyone forgets that...instead they are too busy drumming up old stubborn nationalist ideas that do not make sense half of the time.

Al

pre 16 godina

Don't worry, Alex, I haven't forgotten about the Greater Croatia that existed in WW2. (Albeit a "Greater Croatia" that had to do without certain chunks of "Croatian" territory that the Italians and Hungarians had annexed.)
What's more, I deliberately did NOT refer to the 2nd Yugoslavia as "Greater Serbia", seeing as socialist Yugoslavia was a federal state for a while, unlike the centralised state of the Karadjordjevici. I believe that the 2nd Yugoslavia deserves to be mourned, but that it wasn't killed by separatist nationalists alone but also by centralist nationalists!
Referring to the 2nd Yugoslavia as "Greater Croatia" just because Tito wasn't an ethnic Serb and some of the countries and regions that Serbia had acquired since the Balkan Wars were removed from direct Serbian control is ridiculous, however.
The only other entity that might be reasonably considered as constituting a "Greater Croatia" is the Banovina Hrvatska created in accordance with the Sporazum of 1939. If Tito's Yugoslavia was a state under Croatian hegemony, how explain all the Croatian grievances that led to mass protests in the 1960s and 70s? Let's face it, the man had little time for Serb nationalists but he certainly wasn't a Croatian one either...

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

It amazing that Dahl is allowed to go on much longer. Her "evidence" is more and more astonishing, what will be the next step?

Citing scripts from the 50:s that qoute Joe MCCarthy saying that Tito was a communist and therefore Seselj is guilty of genocide?