once again: let´s just see what future brings...
(Jovan, 26 January 2008 23:55)
Jovan I don't know you, I don't want to know you but some how I fill bad about you because the way you wrote this comment you can see that some kind of uncontrolled frustration is ruling you which already I think has become part of your universe. What future brings for Kosova is already known.
With all their failures to assist Serbia in the past, what makes you think Russia will be able to prevent Kosova's independence.
(Michael John, 26 January 2008 18:05)
Michael John, is Kosovo independent, today? NO! Why is that? Could it have anything to do with Russia? Hmmm, I'll let you think about that.
UN is one of the most amoral and corrupted organizations in the planet. However, its mission statement is all good. UN should be forced to do what is right in Kosova--let the majority rule (over 90% albanian.
It is US leadership that has made UN have a backbone and moral responsibility. It is the leadership of US that defeated the Germans in WWII. It is US that defended Europe against communist Russia and the reds. It is US that suported and made sure that NATO exists even after the Soviet Union proved to be a no match or no threat to Europe anymore. US pays the highest fees to UN. Thank god that UN is not dominated by Russia or even China. When that happens guess what UN will not exist no more. The world has been and will be a better place if ruled by highly civilized and controled anglosaxons. No communist, idealist, or nationalist hot headed nations should be in a position to make big decisions for humanity.
Everytime that happened we have memories of Croatia, Bosnia, Kosova. Remember the UN general Bhutros Gali (who basically allowed the war in Bosnia and Croatia prolonge). US fired him eventually. Couln't do it fast enough. Do you want UN to follow international law and have another scenario. International law is to be adjusted to human rights and not to nationalistic regimes.
Common people. What was your idea to do with 90+ % Albanian population in Kosova? To send them to Albania? Make them refugees in Macedonia? Assimilate them?
And you have a nerve to talk International Law when you know well that that is equal to Santa Clause and Mickey Mouse when it comes to human rights and peace.
Kosova is 90+% Albanian. Will be independent. Will respect minorities. Kosova has a prime minister who has recently declaired that to be patriotic you have to integrate and accept minorities. Serbs are still dreaming of the 100 year occupation that ended in 1999. It ended and get used to it.
By the way. If I were you I would start posting less and less as the independence gets declared and recognized in the next 2 weeks. Because you would eat your own words if you kept posting the anti-independence dogma. So, start posting less and find other productive venues to chanel your hatred of and independent Kosova because it WILL BE INDEPENDENT!!!!
"I would also like to say, why isn't anyone reporting that the Reucker Administatration just got the greenlight to close "parallel structures"?
This website is reporting it.
[link]
The authors seems to be part of Creative Commons, I am not sure how reliable this information is but their article to me seem to be very accurate. I recommend everyone gives it a read.
(KS, 26 January 2008 22:16) "
I wouldn't read too much into this Albanian website for the following reasons:
1. It conveniently quoted UNNAMED sources.
2. If it was so easy to close the Serbian structures, don't you think Ruecker or his predecessors have done so eons ago?
3. The claim that the Contact Group is empowered to "grant" any permission to Ruecker and UNMIK is downright ridiculous for any source to make if it expects to be taken seriously. UNMIK belongs to the UN. Likewise Ruecker was appointed by the UNSC. Therefore he and UNMIK must take orders from the UNSC only. If he takes orders from other parties, he must be sacked immediately. I am sure Ruecker knows this better than anyone else!
4. How can this so-called "permission" be given by the Contact Group without Moscow's agreement? The last I heard was that Russia was still a part of this group.
5. Any overt moves against the parallel structures now will only stoke tension which is the last thing EU and KFOR wants or needs. In any case these structures could always go underground. Then what? Inflict violence on the unarmed K-Serbs before the entire world at a time when Pristina is desperate for the worldwide support? And with 1244 still in force? I don't think so!
So thanks but no thanks -- the report will have to do a lot better than this to be taken seriously.
Minority rights . . . tell that to the 1,200 Serb children, their teachers, and Priests from the Strpce and Vitina Municipalities, that I had to guard to go visit the Patriarchy at Pec and Visoki Decani. There are tanks parked out in front of these structures, I wonder why?
I have been also to Velika Hoca, I have seen the graveyard that was desecrated there, as well as many many others. The hatred and nationalism is not rearing its head in Kosovo right now because these dogs of war are being held back by Thaci and Ceku.
They will quickly rear their heads when the time is right. It is sad to say that within 20 years many churches that survived the occupation of the Turks will not have a place in the new "multi-ethinic Kosova"
The best way to trace a people , or a land is through its linguistics. The word "Kos" in Albanian is yoghourt, so Kosvoa must be "Yougortastan or Yugortoslavia".
On the other hand Kosovo i Metohija would translate to Land of the Black Birds and Church land . . . a bit more realistic don't you think?
Further more the hundreds of Orthodox sites, or now ruins, show a cultural connection to the land... in two years I did not see a mosque, or Church built by Albanians that was older than 400 years.
Also all the village names are of slavic origin, there are dozens of Kamenicas, and Mitrovicas, and others scattered through out the slavic world from south- central back to eastern Europe.
I wonder if there is another Gracanica outside of Tirana?
One can not simply claim a land because of a demographic explosion, or because you have the guns of the most power military in the world at your back.
I am a bitter person after two year in the province, bitter at the decisions my country has made and continues to make. I am bitter at the way we have treated a fellow Christian people and a people who have been supportive of use for the last hundred years. I am angered at the fact that my government would use precious military resources against a government and a people who posed no threat to the US, her allies, or her interests. May God show mercy to us for our "intervention".
" On one hand we will burn down their Churches, and what we can not destroy we will claim for our own." One thing is certain its sickly barbaric and yet sadly effective.
While I was in Kosovo I had a friend of mine who worked for Caritas, a Catholic Albanian, who I considered well educated for the area. But wish a straight face on several occasions he tried to convince me that all the Orthodox Churches in Kosovo were actually Catholic ones, stolen by the Slavs from Albanians after migration. I will say, as I have had numerous times on these boards before, that I am a proud Catholic of the Western Latin Rite. And I will continue to state that, in no uncertain terms, that the Balkans always feel under the jurisdiction of the Patriarch of Constantinople. Granted that we were one Catholic Church until 1054, but the Balkans were conducting their liturgies in Greek looking to Constantinople.
"Or 20/120 seats set for minorities, that's 1/6th or almost 17% when minorities make up 8-9% (at most).
-- Ahtisaari Plan --
Give minorities the greatest powers and privledges in the world."
The answer, in case you haven't noticed is "NO". Serbia is offering more than Ahtisaari or anyone else for that matter so Kosovo remains a part of Serbia, plain and simple. So when are you guys declaring independence? I'm getting a little bored now but I don't expect it to be more than a few days. I hope you're not waiting for a unified EU position!
given that Kosovo is an integral part of sovereign serbian territory, approved by the serbian constitution and even by the UN-Charta and UNSC 1244...
given that the Russians have put a lot of their weight into this, and would feel humiliated, which would mean Mr.Putin losing a lot of his reputation...
given that Serbia has recently signed a protocol ( sic! ) in regard of the serbian NIS-complex, and the actual signing of a full-value agreement is just going to take place in late 2008...
and at the same time...
given that the Serbian government doesn´t even hide the ammount of money that Russia is paying... ( an amazingly good bargain from the russian point of view )...
and that Serbia is not giving away presents, in that regard..
I would strongly recommend you to at least once in your lifetime finally get it straight and use your brains to make your own conclusions...
I´ll give you a little hint: I expect something different to be the real deal behind closed doors.
I am just very curious to see that albanian declaration of dependence...
and then, let´s just see what future brings!
I´d refer to some lines Shakespeare wrote a long time ago... and perhaps it will help you to overcome your usual wishful thinking in order to come back to reality.
"you that chose not by the view, chance as fair, and choose as true: since this fortune falls to you, be content and seek no new..."
although I doubt that any of the kids in here will understand what I mean...
I think it is quite adequate to have it written...
I would also like to say, why isn't anyone reporting that the Reucker Administatration just got the greenlight to close "parallel structures"?
This website is reporting it.
http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080125467/Politics/UNMIK-gets-the-permission-to-terminate-Serbian-parallel-structures.html
The authors seems to be part of Creative Commons, I am not sure how reliable this information is but their article to me seem to be very accurate. I recommend everyone gives it a read.
# Knock, knock. Who's there? Minority. Minority who? Minority rights in Kosovo! Ha! Ha! Ha!
(Delije, 26 January 2008 20:00)
The KPS has grown steadily since 1999, and in 2004 reached its planned full size of nearly 7,000 officers. About 85% of KPS officers are ethnic Albanians, 15% are ethnic Serbs as well as other smaller ethnic minorities.
-- Kosova Asembly --
# 10 seats set aside for the representatives of the Serb community
# 10 seats set aside for the representatives of other communities:
* 4 seats for the Roma, Ashkali and Egyptian communities (RAE)
* 3 seats for the Bosniak community
* 2 seats for the Turkish community
* 1 seat for the Goran community
Or 20/120 seats set for minorities, that's 1/6th or almost 17% when minorities make up 8-9% (at most).
-- Ahtisaari Plan --
Give minorities the greatest powers and privledges in the world. Like for example, Serbian language would be official language everywhere in Kosova, decentralization, etc etc. Since there are so many benefits, please look at this links and read it for yourself.
Of course USA can make anything of Kosovo, even independent, or may even claim it as another planet but the question is how valid is that? If you do not know what is the meaning and the purpose of the UN than you will learn it soon. Do I have to remind you that USA recognised Taiwan as well but revoked its signature? If there was no meaning of the UN, then why Taiwan is trying to become its member?
Bypassing the UN the resolution 1244 stays in force, does that ring any bells? The one must be really naive to think that another state can be made in the territory of the sovereign country. If that was so easy there would be thousands of countries worldwide.
If the USA could bomb Serbia in 1999 without UN approval, what makes you think that the UN can stop America from making Kosova independent. Russia, for all its threats, could not prevent Nato from bombing Serbia. Even the feeble Russian attempt to take the airport in Kosova after the war in 1999 was botched because the Russian soldiers ran out of food and had to beg the NATO troops for a few crumbs. So much for Russian military might.
With all their failures to assist Serbia in the past, what makes you think Russia will be able to prevent Kosova's independence.
The United Nations is about as United on the Kosovo conflict as post Tito Yugoslavia. In addition is just about as Communist as Soviet Russia. A few sly Foxes dressed up as King of the Jungle Lions. Determine what the so called "United" Nations what is and what is not and apparently, what is Legal and what is mostly Legal if you have utter disregard for another countries border. It's sad that the Gang Lords "Beat In" membership also includes a free for all of ones land.
The Kosovo prime minister said that he expected “the EU to be united in recognizing Kosovo’s independence.”
-Then Mr Thachi you will have to wait for long, much longer than you thouht. You can forget about the EU's unified stand.
Your historical date will be just like previous ones that ended up in some drawer, never implemented and forgotten forever. But if that pleases you then you can try to make historical dates and tasks each year.
The Kosovo prime minister said that he expected “the EU to be united in recognizing Kosovo’s independence.”
-Then Mr Thachi you will have to wait for long, much longer than you thouht. You can forget about the EU's unified stand.
Your historical date will be just like previous ones that ended up in some drawer, never implemented and forgotten forever. But if that pleases you then you can try to make historical dates and tasks each year.
Of course USA can make anything of Kosovo, even independent, or may even claim it as another planet but the question is how valid is that? If you do not know what is the meaning and the purpose of the UN than you will learn it soon. Do I have to remind you that USA recognised Taiwan as well but revoked its signature? If there was no meaning of the UN, then why Taiwan is trying to become its member?
Bypassing the UN the resolution 1244 stays in force, does that ring any bells? The one must be really naive to think that another state can be made in the territory of the sovereign country. If that was so easy there would be thousands of countries worldwide.
"Or 20/120 seats set for minorities, that's 1/6th or almost 17% when minorities make up 8-9% (at most).
-- Ahtisaari Plan --
Give minorities the greatest powers and privledges in the world."
The answer, in case you haven't noticed is "NO". Serbia is offering more than Ahtisaari or anyone else for that matter so Kosovo remains a part of Serbia, plain and simple. So when are you guys declaring independence? I'm getting a little bored now but I don't expect it to be more than a few days. I hope you're not waiting for a unified EU position!
"I would also like to say, why isn't anyone reporting that the Reucker Administatration just got the greenlight to close "parallel structures"?
This website is reporting it.
[link]
The authors seems to be part of Creative Commons, I am not sure how reliable this information is but their article to me seem to be very accurate. I recommend everyone gives it a read.
(KS, 26 January 2008 22:16) "
I wouldn't read too much into this Albanian website for the following reasons:
1. It conveniently quoted UNNAMED sources.
2. If it was so easy to close the Serbian structures, don't you think Ruecker or his predecessors have done so eons ago?
3. The claim that the Contact Group is empowered to "grant" any permission to Ruecker and UNMIK is downright ridiculous for any source to make if it expects to be taken seriously. UNMIK belongs to the UN. Likewise Ruecker was appointed by the UNSC. Therefore he and UNMIK must take orders from the UNSC only. If he takes orders from other parties, he must be sacked immediately. I am sure Ruecker knows this better than anyone else!
4. How can this so-called "permission" be given by the Contact Group without Moscow's agreement? The last I heard was that Russia was still a part of this group.
5. Any overt moves against the parallel structures now will only stoke tension which is the last thing EU and KFOR wants or needs. In any case these structures could always go underground. Then what? Inflict violence on the unarmed K-Serbs before the entire world at a time when Pristina is desperate for the worldwide support? And with 1244 still in force? I don't think so!
So thanks but no thanks -- the report will have to do a lot better than this to be taken seriously.
Minority rights . . . tell that to the 1,200 Serb children, their teachers, and Priests from the Strpce and Vitina Municipalities, that I had to guard to go visit the Patriarchy at Pec and Visoki Decani. There are tanks parked out in front of these structures, I wonder why?
I have been also to Velika Hoca, I have seen the graveyard that was desecrated there, as well as many many others. The hatred and nationalism is not rearing its head in Kosovo right now because these dogs of war are being held back by Thaci and Ceku.
They will quickly rear their heads when the time is right. It is sad to say that within 20 years many churches that survived the occupation of the Turks will not have a place in the new "multi-ethinic Kosova"
The best way to trace a people , or a land is through its linguistics. The word "Kos" in Albanian is yoghourt, so Kosvoa must be "Yougortastan or Yugortoslavia".
On the other hand Kosovo i Metohija would translate to Land of the Black Birds and Church land . . . a bit more realistic don't you think?
Further more the hundreds of Orthodox sites, or now ruins, show a cultural connection to the land... in two years I did not see a mosque, or Church built by Albanians that was older than 400 years.
Also all the village names are of slavic origin, there are dozens of Kamenicas, and Mitrovicas, and others scattered through out the slavic world from south- central back to eastern Europe.
I wonder if there is another Gracanica outside of Tirana?
One can not simply claim a land because of a demographic explosion, or because you have the guns of the most power military in the world at your back.
I am a bitter person after two year in the province, bitter at the decisions my country has made and continues to make. I am bitter at the way we have treated a fellow Christian people and a people who have been supportive of use for the last hundred years. I am angered at the fact that my government would use precious military resources against a government and a people who posed no threat to the US, her allies, or her interests. May God show mercy to us for our "intervention".
With all their failures to assist Serbia in the past, what makes you think Russia will be able to prevent Kosova's independence.
(Michael John, 26 January 2008 18:05)
Michael John, is Kosovo independent, today? NO! Why is that? Could it have anything to do with Russia? Hmmm, I'll let you think about that.
The United Nations is about as United on the Kosovo conflict as post Tito Yugoslavia. In addition is just about as Communist as Soviet Russia. A few sly Foxes dressed up as King of the Jungle Lions. Determine what the so called "United" Nations what is and what is not and apparently, what is Legal and what is mostly Legal if you have utter disregard for another countries border. It's sad that the Gang Lords "Beat In" membership also includes a free for all of ones land.
If the USA could bomb Serbia in 1999 without UN approval, what makes you think that the UN can stop America from making Kosova independent. Russia, for all its threats, could not prevent Nato from bombing Serbia. Even the feeble Russian attempt to take the airport in Kosova after the war in 1999 was botched because the Russian soldiers ran out of food and had to beg the NATO troops for a few crumbs. So much for Russian military might.
With all their failures to assist Serbia in the past, what makes you think Russia will be able to prevent Kosova's independence.
# Knock, knock. Who's there? Minority. Minority who? Minority rights in Kosovo! Ha! Ha! Ha!
(Delije, 26 January 2008 20:00)
The KPS has grown steadily since 1999, and in 2004 reached its planned full size of nearly 7,000 officers. About 85% of KPS officers are ethnic Albanians, 15% are ethnic Serbs as well as other smaller ethnic minorities.
-- Kosova Asembly --
# 10 seats set aside for the representatives of the Serb community
# 10 seats set aside for the representatives of other communities:
* 4 seats for the Roma, Ashkali and Egyptian communities (RAE)
* 3 seats for the Bosniak community
* 2 seats for the Turkish community
* 1 seat for the Goran community
Or 20/120 seats set for minorities, that's 1/6th or almost 17% when minorities make up 8-9% (at most).
-- Ahtisaari Plan --
Give minorities the greatest powers and privledges in the world. Like for example, Serbian language would be official language everywhere in Kosova, decentralization, etc etc. Since there are so many benefits, please look at this links and read it for yourself.
I would also like to say, why isn't anyone reporting that the Reucker Administatration just got the greenlight to close "parallel structures"?
This website is reporting it.
http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080125467/Politics/UNMIK-gets-the-permission-to-terminate-Serbian-parallel-structures.html
The authors seems to be part of Creative Commons, I am not sure how reliable this information is but their article to me seem to be very accurate. I recommend everyone gives it a read.
given that Kosovo is an integral part of sovereign serbian territory, approved by the serbian constitution and even by the UN-Charta and UNSC 1244...
given that the Russians have put a lot of their weight into this, and would feel humiliated, which would mean Mr.Putin losing a lot of his reputation...
given that Serbia has recently signed a protocol ( sic! ) in regard of the serbian NIS-complex, and the actual signing of a full-value agreement is just going to take place in late 2008...
and at the same time...
given that the Serbian government doesn´t even hide the ammount of money that Russia is paying... ( an amazingly good bargain from the russian point of view )...
and that Serbia is not giving away presents, in that regard..
I would strongly recommend you to at least once in your lifetime finally get it straight and use your brains to make your own conclusions...
I´ll give you a little hint: I expect something different to be the real deal behind closed doors.
I am just very curious to see that albanian declaration of dependence...
and then, let´s just see what future brings!
I´d refer to some lines Shakespeare wrote a long time ago... and perhaps it will help you to overcome your usual wishful thinking in order to come back to reality.
"you that chose not by the view, chance as fair, and choose as true: since this fortune falls to you, be content and seek no new..."
although I doubt that any of the kids in here will understand what I mean...
I think it is quite adequate to have it written...
" On one hand we will burn down their Churches, and what we can not destroy we will claim for our own." One thing is certain its sickly barbaric and yet sadly effective.
While I was in Kosovo I had a friend of mine who worked for Caritas, a Catholic Albanian, who I considered well educated for the area. But wish a straight face on several occasions he tried to convince me that all the Orthodox Churches in Kosovo were actually Catholic ones, stolen by the Slavs from Albanians after migration. I will say, as I have had numerous times on these boards before, that I am a proud Catholic of the Western Latin Rite. And I will continue to state that, in no uncertain terms, that the Balkans always feel under the jurisdiction of the Patriarch of Constantinople. Granted that we were one Catholic Church until 1054, but the Balkans were conducting their liturgies in Greek looking to Constantinople.
UN is one of the most amoral and corrupted organizations in the planet. However, its mission statement is all good. UN should be forced to do what is right in Kosova--let the majority rule (over 90% albanian.
It is US leadership that has made UN have a backbone and moral responsibility. It is the leadership of US that defeated the Germans in WWII. It is US that defended Europe against communist Russia and the reds. It is US that suported and made sure that NATO exists even after the Soviet Union proved to be a no match or no threat to Europe anymore. US pays the highest fees to UN. Thank god that UN is not dominated by Russia or even China. When that happens guess what UN will not exist no more. The world has been and will be a better place if ruled by highly civilized and controled anglosaxons. No communist, idealist, or nationalist hot headed nations should be in a position to make big decisions for humanity.
Everytime that happened we have memories of Croatia, Bosnia, Kosova. Remember the UN general Bhutros Gali (who basically allowed the war in Bosnia and Croatia prolonge). US fired him eventually. Couln't do it fast enough. Do you want UN to follow international law and have another scenario. International law is to be adjusted to human rights and not to nationalistic regimes.
Common people. What was your idea to do with 90+ % Albanian population in Kosova? To send them to Albania? Make them refugees in Macedonia? Assimilate them?
And you have a nerve to talk International Law when you know well that that is equal to Santa Clause and Mickey Mouse when it comes to human rights and peace.
Kosova is 90+% Albanian. Will be independent. Will respect minorities. Kosova has a prime minister who has recently declaired that to be patriotic you have to integrate and accept minorities. Serbs are still dreaming of the 100 year occupation that ended in 1999. It ended and get used to it.
By the way. If I were you I would start posting less and less as the independence gets declared and recognized in the next 2 weeks. Because you would eat your own words if you kept posting the anti-independence dogma. So, start posting less and find other productive venues to chanel your hatred of and independent Kosova because it WILL BE INDEPENDENT!!!!
once again: let´s just see what future brings...
(Jovan, 26 January 2008 23:55)
Jovan I don't know you, I don't want to know you but some how I fill bad about you because the way you wrote this comment you can see that some kind of uncontrolled frustration is ruling you which already I think has become part of your universe. What future brings for Kosova is already known.
The Kosovo prime minister said that he expected “the EU to be united in recognizing Kosovo’s independence.”
-Then Mr Thachi you will have to wait for long, much longer than you thouht. You can forget about the EU's unified stand.
Your historical date will be just like previous ones that ended up in some drawer, never implemented and forgotten forever. But if that pleases you then you can try to make historical dates and tasks each year.
once again: let´s just see what future brings...
(Jovan, 26 January 2008 23:55)
Jovan I don't know you, I don't want to know you but some how I fill bad about you because the way you wrote this comment you can see that some kind of uncontrolled frustration is ruling you which already I think has become part of your universe. What future brings for Kosova is already known.
The United Nations is about as United on the Kosovo conflict as post Tito Yugoslavia. In addition is just about as Communist as Soviet Russia. A few sly Foxes dressed up as King of the Jungle Lions. Determine what the so called "United" Nations what is and what is not and apparently, what is Legal and what is mostly Legal if you have utter disregard for another countries border. It's sad that the Gang Lords "Beat In" membership also includes a free for all of ones land.
If the USA could bomb Serbia in 1999 without UN approval, what makes you think that the UN can stop America from making Kosova independent. Russia, for all its threats, could not prevent Nato from bombing Serbia. Even the feeble Russian attempt to take the airport in Kosova after the war in 1999 was botched because the Russian soldiers ran out of food and had to beg the NATO troops for a few crumbs. So much for Russian military might.
With all their failures to assist Serbia in the past, what makes you think Russia will be able to prevent Kosova's independence.
Of course USA can make anything of Kosovo, even independent, or may even claim it as another planet but the question is how valid is that? If you do not know what is the meaning and the purpose of the UN than you will learn it soon. Do I have to remind you that USA recognised Taiwan as well but revoked its signature? If there was no meaning of the UN, then why Taiwan is trying to become its member?
Bypassing the UN the resolution 1244 stays in force, does that ring any bells? The one must be really naive to think that another state can be made in the territory of the sovereign country. If that was so easy there would be thousands of countries worldwide.
# Knock, knock. Who's there? Minority. Minority who? Minority rights in Kosovo! Ha! Ha! Ha!
(Delije, 26 January 2008 20:00)
The KPS has grown steadily since 1999, and in 2004 reached its planned full size of nearly 7,000 officers. About 85% of KPS officers are ethnic Albanians, 15% are ethnic Serbs as well as other smaller ethnic minorities.
-- Kosova Asembly --
# 10 seats set aside for the representatives of the Serb community
# 10 seats set aside for the representatives of other communities:
* 4 seats for the Roma, Ashkali and Egyptian communities (RAE)
* 3 seats for the Bosniak community
* 2 seats for the Turkish community
* 1 seat for the Goran community
Or 20/120 seats set for minorities, that's 1/6th or almost 17% when minorities make up 8-9% (at most).
-- Ahtisaari Plan --
Give minorities the greatest powers and privledges in the world. Like for example, Serbian language would be official language everywhere in Kosova, decentralization, etc etc. Since there are so many benefits, please look at this links and read it for yourself.
I would also like to say, why isn't anyone reporting that the Reucker Administatration just got the greenlight to close "parallel structures"?
This website is reporting it.
http://www.newkosovareport.com/20080125467/Politics/UNMIK-gets-the-permission-to-terminate-Serbian-parallel-structures.html
The authors seems to be part of Creative Commons, I am not sure how reliable this information is but their article to me seem to be very accurate. I recommend everyone gives it a read.
given that Kosovo is an integral part of sovereign serbian territory, approved by the serbian constitution and even by the UN-Charta and UNSC 1244...
given that the Russians have put a lot of their weight into this, and would feel humiliated, which would mean Mr.Putin losing a lot of his reputation...
given that Serbia has recently signed a protocol ( sic! ) in regard of the serbian NIS-complex, and the actual signing of a full-value agreement is just going to take place in late 2008...
and at the same time...
given that the Serbian government doesn´t even hide the ammount of money that Russia is paying... ( an amazingly good bargain from the russian point of view )...
and that Serbia is not giving away presents, in that regard..
I would strongly recommend you to at least once in your lifetime finally get it straight and use your brains to make your own conclusions...
I´ll give you a little hint: I expect something different to be the real deal behind closed doors.
I am just very curious to see that albanian declaration of dependence...
and then, let´s just see what future brings!
I´d refer to some lines Shakespeare wrote a long time ago... and perhaps it will help you to overcome your usual wishful thinking in order to come back to reality.
"you that chose not by the view, chance as fair, and choose as true: since this fortune falls to you, be content and seek no new..."
although I doubt that any of the kids in here will understand what I mean...
I think it is quite adequate to have it written...
"Or 20/120 seats set for minorities, that's 1/6th or almost 17% when minorities make up 8-9% (at most).
-- Ahtisaari Plan --
Give minorities the greatest powers and privledges in the world."
The answer, in case you haven't noticed is "NO". Serbia is offering more than Ahtisaari or anyone else for that matter so Kosovo remains a part of Serbia, plain and simple. So when are you guys declaring independence? I'm getting a little bored now but I don't expect it to be more than a few days. I hope you're not waiting for a unified EU position!
Minority rights . . . tell that to the 1,200 Serb children, their teachers, and Priests from the Strpce and Vitina Municipalities, that I had to guard to go visit the Patriarchy at Pec and Visoki Decani. There are tanks parked out in front of these structures, I wonder why?
I have been also to Velika Hoca, I have seen the graveyard that was desecrated there, as well as many many others. The hatred and nationalism is not rearing its head in Kosovo right now because these dogs of war are being held back by Thaci and Ceku.
They will quickly rear their heads when the time is right. It is sad to say that within 20 years many churches that survived the occupation of the Turks will not have a place in the new "multi-ethinic Kosova"
The best way to trace a people , or a land is through its linguistics. The word "Kos" in Albanian is yoghourt, so Kosvoa must be "Yougortastan or Yugortoslavia".
On the other hand Kosovo i Metohija would translate to Land of the Black Birds and Church land . . . a bit more realistic don't you think?
Further more the hundreds of Orthodox sites, or now ruins, show a cultural connection to the land... in two years I did not see a mosque, or Church built by Albanians that was older than 400 years.
Also all the village names are of slavic origin, there are dozens of Kamenicas, and Mitrovicas, and others scattered through out the slavic world from south- central back to eastern Europe.
I wonder if there is another Gracanica outside of Tirana?
One can not simply claim a land because of a demographic explosion, or because you have the guns of the most power military in the world at your back.
I am a bitter person after two year in the province, bitter at the decisions my country has made and continues to make. I am bitter at the way we have treated a fellow Christian people and a people who have been supportive of use for the last hundred years. I am angered at the fact that my government would use precious military resources against a government and a people who posed no threat to the US, her allies, or her interests. May God show mercy to us for our "intervention".
" On one hand we will burn down their Churches, and what we can not destroy we will claim for our own." One thing is certain its sickly barbaric and yet sadly effective.
While I was in Kosovo I had a friend of mine who worked for Caritas, a Catholic Albanian, who I considered well educated for the area. But wish a straight face on several occasions he tried to convince me that all the Orthodox Churches in Kosovo were actually Catholic ones, stolen by the Slavs from Albanians after migration. I will say, as I have had numerous times on these boards before, that I am a proud Catholic of the Western Latin Rite. And I will continue to state that, in no uncertain terms, that the Balkans always feel under the jurisdiction of the Patriarch of Constantinople. Granted that we were one Catholic Church until 1054, but the Balkans were conducting their liturgies in Greek looking to Constantinople.
"I would also like to say, why isn't anyone reporting that the Reucker Administatration just got the greenlight to close "parallel structures"?
This website is reporting it.
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The authors seems to be part of Creative Commons, I am not sure how reliable this information is but their article to me seem to be very accurate. I recommend everyone gives it a read.
(KS, 26 January 2008 22:16) "
I wouldn't read too much into this Albanian website for the following reasons:
1. It conveniently quoted UNNAMED sources.
2. If it was so easy to close the Serbian structures, don't you think Ruecker or his predecessors have done so eons ago?
3. The claim that the Contact Group is empowered to "grant" any permission to Ruecker and UNMIK is downright ridiculous for any source to make if it expects to be taken seriously. UNMIK belongs to the UN. Likewise Ruecker was appointed by the UNSC. Therefore he and UNMIK must take orders from the UNSC only. If he takes orders from other parties, he must be sacked immediately. I am sure Ruecker knows this better than anyone else!
4. How can this so-called "permission" be given by the Contact Group without Moscow's agreement? The last I heard was that Russia was still a part of this group.
5. Any overt moves against the parallel structures now will only stoke tension which is the last thing EU and KFOR wants or needs. In any case these structures could always go underground. Then what? Inflict violence on the unarmed K-Serbs before the entire world at a time when Pristina is desperate for the worldwide support? And with 1244 still in force? I don't think so!
So thanks but no thanks -- the report will have to do a lot better than this to be taken seriously.
UN is one of the most amoral and corrupted organizations in the planet. However, its mission statement is all good. UN should be forced to do what is right in Kosova--let the majority rule (over 90% albanian.
It is US leadership that has made UN have a backbone and moral responsibility. It is the leadership of US that defeated the Germans in WWII. It is US that defended Europe against communist Russia and the reds. It is US that suported and made sure that NATO exists even after the Soviet Union proved to be a no match or no threat to Europe anymore. US pays the highest fees to UN. Thank god that UN is not dominated by Russia or even China. When that happens guess what UN will not exist no more. The world has been and will be a better place if ruled by highly civilized and controled anglosaxons. No communist, idealist, or nationalist hot headed nations should be in a position to make big decisions for humanity.
Everytime that happened we have memories of Croatia, Bosnia, Kosova. Remember the UN general Bhutros Gali (who basically allowed the war in Bosnia and Croatia prolonge). US fired him eventually. Couln't do it fast enough. Do you want UN to follow international law and have another scenario. International law is to be adjusted to human rights and not to nationalistic regimes.
Common people. What was your idea to do with 90+ % Albanian population in Kosova? To send them to Albania? Make them refugees in Macedonia? Assimilate them?
And you have a nerve to talk International Law when you know well that that is equal to Santa Clause and Mickey Mouse when it comes to human rights and peace.
Kosova is 90+% Albanian. Will be independent. Will respect minorities. Kosova has a prime minister who has recently declaired that to be patriotic you have to integrate and accept minorities. Serbs are still dreaming of the 100 year occupation that ended in 1999. It ended and get used to it.
By the way. If I were you I would start posting less and less as the independence gets declared and recognized in the next 2 weeks. Because you would eat your own words if you kept posting the anti-independence dogma. So, start posting less and find other productive venues to chanel your hatred of and independent Kosova because it WILL BE INDEPENDENT!!!!
With all their failures to assist Serbia in the past, what makes you think Russia will be able to prevent Kosova's independence.
(Michael John, 26 January 2008 18:05)
Michael John, is Kosovo independent, today? NO! Why is that? Could it have anything to do with Russia? Hmmm, I'll let you think about that.
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