thanks, i am curious. it's good to know that about the albanian language. that's then a bit like out lj and nj which are also single letters. no one in the world will be able to understand how ll or nj can be one letter, but here we are, we understand eachother :) maybe we had the same language reformer, eh. or maybe they went to the same school in vienna :)
if i lived in kosovo i would definitely learn albanian. i wish every serb in kosovo spoke it. i also wish albanians in kosovo wouldnt pretend that they dont speak serbian. speaking a language is a good, useful thing, a beautiful thing and an asset.
Russia & Serbia says Kosova will never be allowed to join the UN.
Well there is a way around that problem. Kosova can join up with Albania that is already a UN Member, thus instant membership in UN.
(Laura, 17 January 2008 14:29)
that too will be an option but not the one desired. it's more of a last resort.
the upside is that we will not have to create another flag. :)
Milan,
I'm glad that you as a Serb living in Canada are realistic. I assure you that there are many other Serbs that live in reality and want prosperity for Serbian people. On the other side there are many Serbs who live in deception and myths mainly caused by informative darkness that prevailed in Serbia during the last decades (mainly a merit of RTS). I appeal to all peace loving people to head towards a prosperous future and not to return to the past which was tragic for many nations. Kosova/o is heading irreversibly towards independence that nothing can stop. It's time to reconcile and each party yake its own path.
Hi again,
@ Frans
It seems that the comments about this issue are going to endless.
Frans, I should admit that it is true that KLA during 1998 did the same crimes more or less on Serb nationality than Serb army did on Kosovars. But I should say that in comparison with what Serbs did on Kosovars it was not so major thing. I am not trying to be the advocate of KLA here, but I should say that what they did (against humanity) was a kind of respond to Serb army. Unfortunately, in the war there are no rules, but I should highlight that Serbs started this carry on (crimes) first and if KLA did the same as revenge, still it does not justify their acts, but it should be proven.
Frans I should remind you that Racak was not the first massacre that Serb army did; actually it was the last so far. You have the massacre like Serbenica (at least 7000 assassinated), in front of the eyes of Dutch force “so called peace troops” etc. There were found guity some low rank Serb Police, but the big fish always escapes. What is really strange is that the war criminals are having support by the actual serb government by not handing them over to Hague. In directly this means that even the actual Serb politicians supported all the crimes that were made in Bosnia and Kosovo. We should not forget that more than 90% of the actual Serb politicians were in politic when Milošević decided to terminate Albanian in Kosovo. There was not different thought among them, but in the other hand also there was not protest by the civil society of Serbia against the crimes that were happening next door, so passively they supported them.
In one comment above by Michael said that Tadic can apologize before the UNSC.
Michael, I should say that first of all Tadic and Serbia should apologize first to Albanian Kosovars, than Serbian politicians should apologize to all Serbs for the seek policy that they have followed and continue to follow against their neighbours and other nationalities, and then we can took for their international rights on national boundaries. But I am sure that this will never happened.
In the UNSC, I am sure without considering the real facts and fairness; the respective countries have already set up their mind for what they think for the future of Kosovo. It has been already a practice of UNSC that before they start a session on Kosovo, surprisingly it happens a murder of a Serb minority in Kosovo (most of the cases the victim is over 60 years old) and the whole UNSC session goes around with statements condemning this crime against Serb minority in Kosovo and showing how bad are Kosovars and they do not deserve independence. So indirectly the life of one or two persons (Serb) supersedes over the lives of thousand of Kosovars that where massacred. My personal Opinion is that UDB (Serb intelligent) is very active and doing the home works properly.
Definitely, I should say that I have been in the borderline with Kosovo during 1998 helping the Kosovo refuges coming in Albania. I have seen with my own eyes people (civilians) old men, women and children injured for entertainment of Serb paramilitaries (others that did not show in the border were killed) . I have seen a selection of girls and women done at Border Crossing point taking them away from their families and sending them up the hill to the solders for raping and entertainment. Sometimes this happened in front of their families. In the year 2000, KFOR found by accident the body of a girl 17 years old, thrown away in the bushes 50 m away from Morini Border Crossing point with Albania. I wish and I hope that it will be given the chance to Kosovo for self governing as serbs do not deserve it.
You can denie things and they can still happen, my dear Tadić.If there would be any chance to prevent the death just not accepting it, I would live forever. So would you my dear Tadić.
I heard Tadic's statement same as the people present in there. The difference, me in front of my TV and they within the same room. From what I heard, Mr. Tadic does not care at all about Albanians living in Kosovo. There is no single sentence that confirms Serbias willingness to accept Kosovo Albanians as equal citizens in Serbia. I didn't miss this, what about other UNSC Members?!!! He was pleading and begging: PLEASE DO NOT PUNISH SERBIA ONCE AGAIN... We have changed... We are good people now... We are democraticly oriented... And, did not say any sentence about other issues, wrong issues that Albainans are affacted with... All he cares is keep Kosovo... He will hopefully never have it... Why Mr. Tadic doesn't start paying pensions to Kosovo Albanians, to the ones that have been working and paying all contributions for years long on the time when Serbia is paying same one to Serbs living in Kosovo (Salaries of Serbian teachers working in Kosovo 200%). Would this be a small sign in showing the world that Albanians are equaly tretad?!!! Asked about action plan, he answers no VIOLENEC but still teh document is to be secret... haahahha... Anybody believed it?!!! Why to keep it secret if no reason to be ashamed of... Thanks god, w have international community present in Kosovo, we have our individuals taht we have selected addressing to the same body and there are a lot of agencies, of lot institutions well informed about how Albanians were tretaed by Serbian Goverment and I believe this will give them a good view and strong reasons to recomend / decide... If for nothing else, I am not willing to be oriented towards Russia and China... I want to be oriented towards Europe and this gives me good excusse to give my best and organise my future on my own and not be part of the state (Serbia state) that consideras me as a second league citizent... Thanks but NO... And honestly, I am not ready neither willing to live under same paramilitary forces once again, under same goverment that hunted me and other Albanians in Kosovo years long... We were demanding equal rights for a long time and this was not heard. Now, we are not ready to go back on the same again. We will move forward and Serbia should not and can not prevent this. Even like this (with presence of international community, no independence but rather status quo etc) is much better than living under rule of Serbia. I would rather fly to teh wors state and start livign there but NEVER under Serbia again. I would go to Africa, I would freely agree to live in jungle but NEVER again under Serbia. Most of you do not now hot it is to have regular military forces supporting paramilitary units that are in your backyard and you stand in front of them hoping and begging the god for the safety of your 3 year and 6 year old children... I will do my best not to risk such a sittuation again. Yesterday, Mr Tadic clearly showed HE DOES NOT CARE FOR ALBANIANS AT ALL. ALL HE CARES ARE THE SERBS and he would put them anywhere its needed just to make sure they will vote him again. just to make sure his ego will be satisfyed, just to make sure he could say he won again... No my friends, it makes no difference what will UNSC decide... It will be individual acceptance or collective acceptance of Independance of Kosovo... And what counts is Kosovo will become independant... Best regards from Kosova / Kosovo
You cought Milanche in lies as I am too. He wrote Kostucnica as Costunica and if he was a Serb I presume he would know how to write Kostunica with K and not with C. But let him be. Maybe he enjoys to be a Serb.
I believe that Serbian parliament should consider a possibility to postpone presidental elections - to time after Kosovo's declaration of the independance.
Western countries are counting on that people will be to devided with post election questions - missing the critical time to react on Kosovo issue.
The Russian offer, however, comes at a price: Russia wants to take a controlling stake in Serbia's state oil company,
Naftna Industrija Srbije, or NIS, at a fraction of its market value. Pro-Western factions in the Serbian government
have balked at what they called a "humiliating offer," and it remains unclear whether the agreement can be reached
in time for Putin's visit to Sofia
"Kosovo would have been independent for at least a half year already if not for Russia's stance," said Fyodor Lukyanov,
the editor of Russia in Global Affairs magazine. "Russia expects some kind of gratitude from the Serbs."
Well it looks as if the proverbial stuff has hit the fan with enough force to take down the ceiling.
Ahmet, what on earth are you on about? Im sorry, but your suggesting a school principal, who had many of his school students murdered while KFOR and UNMIK seemingly did nothing and as always with the albanians saying "no suspects or clear motive", would need to have belgrade give him some sort of plan to make him attack Reuker who said that nothing had happened?Re-think everything you have written, please. And it is about time that someone was shown the double standards of Reuker. He should be thrown in prison. Just like the kenyan officer who said that he took no sides.
518 Serbs were killed, along with 104 members of other ethnically discriminated communities," he said.
"841 Serbs were also kidnapped."
518 killed and 841 missing? those 841 are sure to be like the other 518. But according to Reuker nothing happened? The events of march 2004 were enough.
They have called on Article 39 of the rules of procedure, under which “an individual who can offer information useful to the course of the debate” can be allowed to take part. This says enough.........he is a guest. Tadic is representing a country, a state. Completely different in respect.
And absolutely a bliss to see that "war" is not an option. We've had enough of those and at our expense.
From MR tadic I could understand one thing. Serbia it is not willing to fight for Kosova but since Russia pushing them they can not gave up and accept the facts. All this is because of Russia. They want through serbia to take some positions in Balkans. Even Russia they dont care about Kosova. What they want is to prevent membership of Serbia in EU in order to in some way to occupy Serbia. Doing so they will acchive a lot of things. To cut Europe roads to Small Azia and Middle Azia and to Energetic resources. Russia is using Serbia against Europe. What I suggest to Europe is to forget about Serbia. There are a lot of roads which send europe to middle azia. It is Adriatic highway thwough Albania then Macedonia or Greece, Then through Hungary- Romania-Bulgaria etc. Leave Serbia isolate them and be sure they will not make any trouble aout of their borders. If they want to be occupied by Russia let them have it.
what he is thinking KOSOVO to it will recognise serbia like a state? serbia isn't any god for anything to kosovo so the best thing for kosovo goverment first is to build electric fence around the border with serbia like israel did to palestine and ignore that country existence....
"but: unlike in albanian, there are is no doubling of consonants in serbian, such as your lovely 'sllovak' example there;)
except, now that i think about it, in this word: 'najjeftiniji', meaning, 'the cheapest', as in, 'trick'.
please be proud of who you are and do not try to mislead with serb names here. thanks.
(smile, 16 January 2008 23:14) "
Just to educate you a little since there is so much talk about Albanian and Albanians here.
In Albanian the letter ll such as in Sllovakia is considered one letter only, not a doubling of consonants. The letters Dh, gj, nj,rr, sh, th, xh, zh, are also considered as one letter and not as doubling of consonants. We consider them to be no different than the letters a, b, c , d, e ,f etc etc. The reason behind this is that in Albanian each sounds corresponds to a specific letter. So whether you make the sound f or gj each of those sounds correspond to that one specific letter, and you write the sound exactly as you hear it. This is just in case you are curious. I would consider doubling if in Albanian we wrote a word like "matter" for example where there are 2 t's. We do not have that in Albanian.
Tadic : "We'll never accept Kosovo independence"
Sorry but Tadic has been on a slippery slope, with conflicting arguments.
He has tendency to bring up European Union.
He has tendency to bring up Serbia's economic prosperity.
Tadic should take a lesson from Kostunica and remain firm in his belief and principle.
Trust is a powerful force.
What I found funny in Tadic speech was when he said that what happened in Kosova in 1999 was due to Milosevic's regime, he died, Serbia was punished bla bla and now Serbia has changed therefore should not be punished anymore for crimes committed by then Milosevic's regime, in another words this is not year 1999. Right after that, he went on talking about Serbs who were killed , their houses destroyed etc, all in 1999.
So according to Tadic, we should forget and move on because those crimes were done by then Serbia's regime and in 1999 - and nothing to do with today's Serbia, but we should not forget about houses destroyed etc, as long as the victims are Serbs.
Well Mr. Tadic we can either talk about what happened in Kosova in 1999 and from both sides or we do not. You can't ask us to ignore 1999 crime against Albanians and only mention those against Serbs. Otherwise, you will sound funny. If it was Kostunica's speech then one can expect such funny speech but not from you :). I mean you look more sensible and more intelligent.
Tadic forgot to mention that after NATO took control of Kosovo more than 1000 Kosovo Albanians were murdered by NATO allies, terrorist KLA.
The entire families were wiped out. Legal term for more than 5 people killed is massacre.
NATO did not lift a finger to protect them and prevent massacres. This fact speaks volume about NATO's fraudulent humanitarian concern for Kosovo Albanian civilians.
The number of Kosovo Albanian civilians murdered by Albanian extremists before and after the war is higher than the number of Kosovo Albanian civilians caught in the crossfire between Serbian police and KLA terrorists.
Ahmet Isufi, Demaqi called Albanian silence about murdering of fellow Albanians after June 1999 great shame. What you can tell us about it?
I know that it shatters the construct of Albanian victimhood to pieces, but this is your opportunity to speak up.
Dardania (Kosova) is already de facto independent. It will be de jure very soon and we will all be happy that this chapter finally closed. It is time for our people Kosovans and Serbian, to live as good neighbors, trade with each other, visit each other, work with each other. Whoever has a problem with that, in fact has a bigger problem in the head. We all know who they are. Kosova issue is very unique and it is more about the people and not about borders. People of Kosova have decided to be free, independent and souvereign. No one can stop the free will, not even God Himself! Politicians will come and go, armies will win and loose, leaders will be born and die, but nations live forever.
"Kosovo free as Checks and Sllovaks did decades ago"
being a serb is what you would call, hardship and high honor, and therefore i can see why you would want to pretend to be one.
but: unlike in albanian, there are is no doubling of consonants in serbian, such as your lovely 'sllovak' example there;)
except, now that i think about it, in this word: 'najjeftiniji', meaning, 'the cheapest', as in, 'trick'.
please be proud of who you are and do not try to mislead with serb names here. thanks.
Tadic is the "Bill Clinton" of Serbia. Kostunica does all of the work while Tadic tries to take the credit for it. How strong has Tadic been against the EU mission? If you want to see the continued humiliation of Serbia, vote for Tadic.
"Serbia will never recognize Kosovo's independence," the president told the Security Council as he began his address.
Mr. President! In politic you NEVER say NEVER. Just find the way to make a better life for serbian people. It is wrong to follow Mr. Millošević ideas. It is wrong to follow Šešelj and Tomislav Nikolić, even Coštunica nationalist ideas. It is time for change and you lead the change before it is late. Milan Cosić, Toronto Canada.
@Klodi and others.
Interesting that you blame the Serbis for what happened in 1998. But more interesting is that a former PM of Kosovo is now on trail in The Hague and will most likely be sentenced to 25 years in prison for rape, torture against Serbs,Roma and others .........all done in....1998!! So, what you want to say? Not one Serb is convicted for any crime before Racak which was even doubtfull but for sure was after what the former PM did. Better stay in Ireland!
Hi Klodi,
You are right in your assessment of the degree of Serbian crimes against humanity. There are many bodies of Albanian Kosovar civilians yet to be discovered. However, today B92 reported the finding of the bodies of 37 Albanian civilians in Prizren. A Serb Police officer admitted he had written a report of this crime back in 2001. There are many more bodies of masacared Albanians yet to be found. This information should be passed onto Tadic so that he can apologize before the UNSC, where he is speaking today, for these recently discovered murders of civilian Albanians by the Serb police. Many of the bodies were those of women and children.
Can someone tell me what is more important "keeping" Kosovo and Metohija with 96% non-serbs and leaving Srbska and Krajina or is better to fight for serbian people to live together in one state. Isn't better for Serbia to be seperated from the past and leave Kosovo free as Checks and Sllovaks did decades ago. Is any serb that see future of their kids in a better Serbia or it is better to see under bombed bridges from foreign country because something very disputable. I hope moderator doesn't see those question as anti-serbs remarks and leave people to discuss on those issue. Thanks. Milan Cosic, Toronto. Kanada.
Actually, it is my first time giving my comment in this website.
It took my attention Tom’s comment and surprisingly by surname he looks that he has an Irish background, which means that he should know very well what Kosovars want.
In every official statement of Serbia government, they clam for the International Right of Serbia and respect of their boundaries and territory. But, does this give the right to Serbia to mascara and kill other nationality within so called Serbia territory???? In Kosovo’s case the last mascaras on 1998 was something that Kosova people have experienced publicly also before on 1912 and before that as well. It is not important what happened before II World War, but it is very important what happened on 1998 with Kosova people and this civilized and modern society and world community let it happened. Isn’t there an International law to respect other nationalities? Therefore, I believe that this is a lost battle for Serbia, as they had Kosovo and they could not keep it as they could not keep even the former countries of Yugoslavia. And you know Why TOM, because they wanted to prevail. Now days nobody can prevail against the free will of the people that wants freedom. Still there are teams in Kosovo looking for mass graves caused by Serbs, actually there are still discovering those in Bosnia.
Since Kate asked me what is my point I would respond.
Kate and Tom without Princip:
My point is that he (SRSG) can show indisputable evidence that the assault was ordered from Belgrade.
Kate,
Ahmet doesn't have a point - he's just latching onto every little thing he can think of to fling some mud at the Serbs. From now on I will choose to ignore this character.
I do not know a huge amount about Boris Tadic but he's steering a steady ship at the moment and I wish him well in his address to the UNSC. I will repeat, that as long as the Serbian government/President stick together, they will prevail.
I would like to know how Tadic plans to "disqualify" the Independence of Kosovo. He has already stated that Serbia is not willing to go to war to "keep" Kosova. Tadic was very quick to reveal this fact inspite of all the bravado and threats from the lunatic fringe. A very wise choice Mr.Tadic, since the alternative of resorting to war would set Serbia back 100 years.
I see that the UN is allowing Prime Minister Thaci to speak at the UNSC. Justice is being served inspite of Serbia's hollow threats!
are you suggesting you wrote Ruckers report for him ???
You clearly are lost for any rational discussion given that it is clear illegal Declaration of Dependence keeps on getting postponed!
EU would like to resolve this but at teh end of the day when they suggest unity then this is a clear message that it must be one that is on legal basis i.e requires Serbia's consent!
I would like to inform evrybody that post coments on this site that; SRSG on first page of his report has inlcuded the incident that took place in Gorazhdevac, which SRSG and COMKFOR were assaulted by group of Serbs led by School Principal in Gorzhdevac. I know every word on that text but I will not mention it here. You all will hear it for yourself.
Tadić pointed out there was good news for Serbia at the Security Council, "that there is no majority for any independence for Kosovo."
-That I believed all along. The UK,France and the USA do not make a world nor entire Europe. Those countries were trying to push for impossible and finally hit upon the resistance from the other countreis who do not dare to breach the law and to be taken as responsible for that sometimes in the future.
However, this is good opportunity to reveal the factual situation in Kosovo and bury down Ruecker's report full of lies. The least I expect from Mr Ban is to withdrow Ruecker from his current position in Kosovo.
Kate,
Ahmet doesn't have a point - he's just latching onto every little thing he can think of to fling some mud at the Serbs. From now on I will choose to ignore this character.
I do not know a huge amount about Boris Tadic but he's steering a steady ship at the moment and I wish him well in his address to the UNSC. I will repeat, that as long as the Serbian government/President stick together, they will prevail.
Tadić pointed out there was good news for Serbia at the Security Council, "that there is no majority for any independence for Kosovo."
-That I believed all along. The UK,France and the USA do not make a world nor entire Europe. Those countries were trying to push for impossible and finally hit upon the resistance from the other countreis who do not dare to breach the law and to be taken as responsible for that sometimes in the future.
However, this is good opportunity to reveal the factual situation in Kosovo and bury down Ruecker's report full of lies. The least I expect from Mr Ban is to withdrow Ruecker from his current position in Kosovo.
are you suggesting you wrote Ruckers report for him ???
You clearly are lost for any rational discussion given that it is clear illegal Declaration of Dependence keeps on getting postponed!
EU would like to resolve this but at teh end of the day when they suggest unity then this is a clear message that it must be one that is on legal basis i.e requires Serbia's consent!
@Klodi and others.
Interesting that you blame the Serbis for what happened in 1998. But more interesting is that a former PM of Kosovo is now on trail in The Hague and will most likely be sentenced to 25 years in prison for rape, torture against Serbs,Roma and others .........all done in....1998!! So, what you want to say? Not one Serb is convicted for any crime before Racak which was even doubtfull but for sure was after what the former PM did. Better stay in Ireland!
"Kosovo free as Checks and Sllovaks did decades ago"
being a serb is what you would call, hardship and high honor, and therefore i can see why you would want to pretend to be one.
but: unlike in albanian, there are is no doubling of consonants in serbian, such as your lovely 'sllovak' example there;)
except, now that i think about it, in this word: 'najjeftiniji', meaning, 'the cheapest', as in, 'trick'.
please be proud of who you are and do not try to mislead with serb names here. thanks.
I would like to inform evrybody that post coments on this site that; SRSG on first page of his report has inlcuded the incident that took place in Gorazhdevac, which SRSG and COMKFOR were assaulted by group of Serbs led by School Principal in Gorzhdevac. I know every word on that text but I will not mention it here. You all will hear it for yourself.
I would like to know how Tadic plans to "disqualify" the Independence of Kosovo. He has already stated that Serbia is not willing to go to war to "keep" Kosova. Tadic was very quick to reveal this fact inspite of all the bravado and threats from the lunatic fringe. A very wise choice Mr.Tadic, since the alternative of resorting to war would set Serbia back 100 years.
I see that the UN is allowing Prime Minister Thaci to speak at the UNSC. Justice is being served inspite of Serbia's hollow threats!
"Serbia will never recognize Kosovo's independence," the president told the Security Council as he began his address.
Mr. President! In politic you NEVER say NEVER. Just find the way to make a better life for serbian people. It is wrong to follow Mr. Millošević ideas. It is wrong to follow Šešelj and Tomislav Nikolić, even Coštunica nationalist ideas. It is time for change and you lead the change before it is late. Milan Cosić, Toronto Canada.
Hi Klodi,
You are right in your assessment of the degree of Serbian crimes against humanity. There are many bodies of Albanian Kosovar civilians yet to be discovered. However, today B92 reported the finding of the bodies of 37 Albanian civilians in Prizren. A Serb Police officer admitted he had written a report of this crime back in 2001. There are many more bodies of masacared Albanians yet to be found. This information should be passed onto Tadic so that he can apologize before the UNSC, where he is speaking today, for these recently discovered murders of civilian Albanians by the Serb police. Many of the bodies were those of women and children.
Since Kate asked me what is my point I would respond.
Kate and Tom without Princip:
My point is that he (SRSG) can show indisputable evidence that the assault was ordered from Belgrade.
Can someone tell me what is more important "keeping" Kosovo and Metohija with 96% non-serbs and leaving Srbska and Krajina or is better to fight for serbian people to live together in one state. Isn't better for Serbia to be seperated from the past and leave Kosovo free as Checks and Sllovaks did decades ago. Is any serb that see future of their kids in a better Serbia or it is better to see under bombed bridges from foreign country because something very disputable. I hope moderator doesn't see those question as anti-serbs remarks and leave people to discuss on those issue. Thanks. Milan Cosic, Toronto. Kanada.
Tadic is the "Bill Clinton" of Serbia. Kostunica does all of the work while Tadic tries to take the credit for it. How strong has Tadic been against the EU mission? If you want to see the continued humiliation of Serbia, vote for Tadic.
Actually, it is my first time giving my comment in this website.
It took my attention Tom’s comment and surprisingly by surname he looks that he has an Irish background, which means that he should know very well what Kosovars want.
In every official statement of Serbia government, they clam for the International Right of Serbia and respect of their boundaries and territory. But, does this give the right to Serbia to mascara and kill other nationality within so called Serbia territory???? In Kosovo’s case the last mascaras on 1998 was something that Kosova people have experienced publicly also before on 1912 and before that as well. It is not important what happened before II World War, but it is very important what happened on 1998 with Kosova people and this civilized and modern society and world community let it happened. Isn’t there an International law to respect other nationalities? Therefore, I believe that this is a lost battle for Serbia, as they had Kosovo and they could not keep it as they could not keep even the former countries of Yugoslavia. And you know Why TOM, because they wanted to prevail. Now days nobody can prevail against the free will of the people that wants freedom. Still there are teams in Kosovo looking for mass graves caused by Serbs, actually there are still discovering those in Bosnia.
Tadic forgot to mention that after NATO took control of Kosovo more than 1000 Kosovo Albanians were murdered by NATO allies, terrorist KLA.
The entire families were wiped out. Legal term for more than 5 people killed is massacre.
NATO did not lift a finger to protect them and prevent massacres. This fact speaks volume about NATO's fraudulent humanitarian concern for Kosovo Albanian civilians.
The number of Kosovo Albanian civilians murdered by Albanian extremists before and after the war is higher than the number of Kosovo Albanian civilians caught in the crossfire between Serbian police and KLA terrorists.
Ahmet Isufi, Demaqi called Albanian silence about murdering of fellow Albanians after June 1999 great shame. What you can tell us about it?
I know that it shatters the construct of Albanian victimhood to pieces, but this is your opportunity to speak up.
You cought Milanche in lies as I am too. He wrote Kostucnica as Costunica and if he was a Serb I presume he would know how to write Kostunica with K and not with C. But let him be. Maybe he enjoys to be a Serb.
Hi again,
@ Frans
It seems that the comments about this issue are going to endless.
Frans, I should admit that it is true that KLA during 1998 did the same crimes more or less on Serb nationality than Serb army did on Kosovars. But I should say that in comparison with what Serbs did on Kosovars it was not so major thing. I am not trying to be the advocate of KLA here, but I should say that what they did (against humanity) was a kind of respond to Serb army. Unfortunately, in the war there are no rules, but I should highlight that Serbs started this carry on (crimes) first and if KLA did the same as revenge, still it does not justify their acts, but it should be proven.
Frans I should remind you that Racak was not the first massacre that Serb army did; actually it was the last so far. You have the massacre like Serbenica (at least 7000 assassinated), in front of the eyes of Dutch force “so called peace troops” etc. There were found guity some low rank Serb Police, but the big fish always escapes. What is really strange is that the war criminals are having support by the actual serb government by not handing them over to Hague. In directly this means that even the actual Serb politicians supported all the crimes that were made in Bosnia and Kosovo. We should not forget that more than 90% of the actual Serb politicians were in politic when Milošević decided to terminate Albanian in Kosovo. There was not different thought among them, but in the other hand also there was not protest by the civil society of Serbia against the crimes that were happening next door, so passively they supported them.
In one comment above by Michael said that Tadic can apologize before the UNSC.
Michael, I should say that first of all Tadic and Serbia should apologize first to Albanian Kosovars, than Serbian politicians should apologize to all Serbs for the seek policy that they have followed and continue to follow against their neighbours and other nationalities, and then we can took for their international rights on national boundaries. But I am sure that this will never happened.
In the UNSC, I am sure without considering the real facts and fairness; the respective countries have already set up their mind for what they think for the future of Kosovo. It has been already a practice of UNSC that before they start a session on Kosovo, surprisingly it happens a murder of a Serb minority in Kosovo (most of the cases the victim is over 60 years old) and the whole UNSC session goes around with statements condemning this crime against Serb minority in Kosovo and showing how bad are Kosovars and they do not deserve independence. So indirectly the life of one or two persons (Serb) supersedes over the lives of thousand of Kosovars that where massacred. My personal Opinion is that UDB (Serb intelligent) is very active and doing the home works properly.
Definitely, I should say that I have been in the borderline with Kosovo during 1998 helping the Kosovo refuges coming in Albania. I have seen with my own eyes people (civilians) old men, women and children injured for entertainment of Serb paramilitaries (others that did not show in the border were killed) . I have seen a selection of girls and women done at Border Crossing point taking them away from their families and sending them up the hill to the solders for raping and entertainment. Sometimes this happened in front of their families. In the year 2000, KFOR found by accident the body of a girl 17 years old, thrown away in the bushes 50 m away from Morini Border Crossing point with Albania. I wish and I hope that it will be given the chance to Kosovo for self governing as serbs do not deserve it.
thanks, i am curious. it's good to know that about the albanian language. that's then a bit like out lj and nj which are also single letters. no one in the world will be able to understand how ll or nj can be one letter, but here we are, we understand eachother :) maybe we had the same language reformer, eh. or maybe they went to the same school in vienna :)
if i lived in kosovo i would definitely learn albanian. i wish every serb in kosovo spoke it. i also wish albanians in kosovo wouldnt pretend that they dont speak serbian. speaking a language is a good, useful thing, a beautiful thing and an asset.
What I found funny in Tadic speech was when he said that what happened in Kosova in 1999 was due to Milosevic's regime, he died, Serbia was punished bla bla and now Serbia has changed therefore should not be punished anymore for crimes committed by then Milosevic's regime, in another words this is not year 1999. Right after that, he went on talking about Serbs who were killed , their houses destroyed etc, all in 1999.
So according to Tadic, we should forget and move on because those crimes were done by then Serbia's regime and in 1999 - and nothing to do with today's Serbia, but we should not forget about houses destroyed etc, as long as the victims are Serbs.
Well Mr. Tadic we can either talk about what happened in Kosova in 1999 and from both sides or we do not. You can't ask us to ignore 1999 crime against Albanians and only mention those against Serbs. Otherwise, you will sound funny. If it was Kostunica's speech then one can expect such funny speech but not from you :). I mean you look more sensible and more intelligent.
Well it looks as if the proverbial stuff has hit the fan with enough force to take down the ceiling.
Ahmet, what on earth are you on about? Im sorry, but your suggesting a school principal, who had many of his school students murdered while KFOR and UNMIK seemingly did nothing and as always with the albanians saying "no suspects or clear motive", would need to have belgrade give him some sort of plan to make him attack Reuker who said that nothing had happened?Re-think everything you have written, please. And it is about time that someone was shown the double standards of Reuker. He should be thrown in prison. Just like the kenyan officer who said that he took no sides.
518 Serbs were killed, along with 104 members of other ethnically discriminated communities," he said.
"841 Serbs were also kidnapped."
518 killed and 841 missing? those 841 are sure to be like the other 518. But according to Reuker nothing happened? The events of march 2004 were enough.
They have called on Article 39 of the rules of procedure, under which “an individual who can offer information useful to the course of the debate” can be allowed to take part. This says enough.........he is a guest. Tadic is representing a country, a state. Completely different in respect.
And absolutely a bliss to see that "war" is not an option. We've had enough of those and at our expense.
You can denie things and they can still happen, my dear Tadić.If there would be any chance to prevent the death just not accepting it, I would live forever. So would you my dear Tadić.
I heard Tadic's statement same as the people present in there. The difference, me in front of my TV and they within the same room. From what I heard, Mr. Tadic does not care at all about Albanians living in Kosovo. There is no single sentence that confirms Serbias willingness to accept Kosovo Albanians as equal citizens in Serbia. I didn't miss this, what about other UNSC Members?!!! He was pleading and begging: PLEASE DO NOT PUNISH SERBIA ONCE AGAIN... We have changed... We are good people now... We are democraticly oriented... And, did not say any sentence about other issues, wrong issues that Albainans are affacted with... All he cares is keep Kosovo... He will hopefully never have it... Why Mr. Tadic doesn't start paying pensions to Kosovo Albanians, to the ones that have been working and paying all contributions for years long on the time when Serbia is paying same one to Serbs living in Kosovo (Salaries of Serbian teachers working in Kosovo 200%). Would this be a small sign in showing the world that Albanians are equaly tretad?!!! Asked about action plan, he answers no VIOLENEC but still teh document is to be secret... haahahha... Anybody believed it?!!! Why to keep it secret if no reason to be ashamed of... Thanks god, w have international community present in Kosovo, we have our individuals taht we have selected addressing to the same body and there are a lot of agencies, of lot institutions well informed about how Albanians were tretaed by Serbian Goverment and I believe this will give them a good view and strong reasons to recomend / decide... If for nothing else, I am not willing to be oriented towards Russia and China... I want to be oriented towards Europe and this gives me good excusse to give my best and organise my future on my own and not be part of the state (Serbia state) that consideras me as a second league citizent... Thanks but NO... And honestly, I am not ready neither willing to live under same paramilitary forces once again, under same goverment that hunted me and other Albanians in Kosovo years long... We were demanding equal rights for a long time and this was not heard. Now, we are not ready to go back on the same again. We will move forward and Serbia should not and can not prevent this. Even like this (with presence of international community, no independence but rather status quo etc) is much better than living under rule of Serbia. I would rather fly to teh wors state and start livign there but NEVER under Serbia again. I would go to Africa, I would freely agree to live in jungle but NEVER again under Serbia. Most of you do not now hot it is to have regular military forces supporting paramilitary units that are in your backyard and you stand in front of them hoping and begging the god for the safety of your 3 year and 6 year old children... I will do my best not to risk such a sittuation again. Yesterday, Mr Tadic clearly showed HE DOES NOT CARE FOR ALBANIANS AT ALL. ALL HE CARES ARE THE SERBS and he would put them anywhere its needed just to make sure they will vote him again. just to make sure his ego will be satisfyed, just to make sure he could say he won again... No my friends, it makes no difference what will UNSC decide... It will be individual acceptance or collective acceptance of Independance of Kosovo... And what counts is Kosovo will become independant... Best regards from Kosova / Kosovo
Tadic : "We'll never accept Kosovo independence"
Sorry but Tadic has been on a slippery slope, with conflicting arguments.
He has tendency to bring up European Union.
He has tendency to bring up Serbia's economic prosperity.
Tadic should take a lesson from Kostunica and remain firm in his belief and principle.
Trust is a powerful force.
"but: unlike in albanian, there are is no doubling of consonants in serbian, such as your lovely 'sllovak' example there;)
except, now that i think about it, in this word: 'najjeftiniji', meaning, 'the cheapest', as in, 'trick'.
please be proud of who you are and do not try to mislead with serb names here. thanks.
(smile, 16 January 2008 23:14) "
Just to educate you a little since there is so much talk about Albanian and Albanians here.
In Albanian the letter ll such as in Sllovakia is considered one letter only, not a doubling of consonants. The letters Dh, gj, nj,rr, sh, th, xh, zh, are also considered as one letter and not as doubling of consonants. We consider them to be no different than the letters a, b, c , d, e ,f etc etc. The reason behind this is that in Albanian each sounds corresponds to a specific letter. So whether you make the sound f or gj each of those sounds correspond to that one specific letter, and you write the sound exactly as you hear it. This is just in case you are curious. I would consider doubling if in Albanian we wrote a word like "matter" for example where there are 2 t's. We do not have that in Albanian.
From MR tadic I could understand one thing. Serbia it is not willing to fight for Kosova but since Russia pushing them they can not gave up and accept the facts. All this is because of Russia. They want through serbia to take some positions in Balkans. Even Russia they dont care about Kosova. What they want is to prevent membership of Serbia in EU in order to in some way to occupy Serbia. Doing so they will acchive a lot of things. To cut Europe roads to Small Azia and Middle Azia and to Energetic resources. Russia is using Serbia against Europe. What I suggest to Europe is to forget about Serbia. There are a lot of roads which send europe to middle azia. It is Adriatic highway thwough Albania then Macedonia or Greece, Then through Hungary- Romania-Bulgaria etc. Leave Serbia isolate them and be sure they will not make any trouble aout of their borders. If they want to be occupied by Russia let them have it.
I believe that Serbian parliament should consider a possibility to postpone presidental elections - to time after Kosovo's declaration of the independance.
Western countries are counting on that people will be to devided with post election questions - missing the critical time to react on Kosovo issue.
Milan,
I'm glad that you as a Serb living in Canada are realistic. I assure you that there are many other Serbs that live in reality and want prosperity for Serbian people. On the other side there are many Serbs who live in deception and myths mainly caused by informative darkness that prevailed in Serbia during the last decades (mainly a merit of RTS). I appeal to all peace loving people to head towards a prosperous future and not to return to the past which was tragic for many nations. Kosova/o is heading irreversibly towards independence that nothing can stop. It's time to reconcile and each party yake its own path.
Russia & Serbia says Kosova will never be allowed to join the UN.
Well there is a way around that problem. Kosova can join up with Albania that is already a UN Member, thus instant membership in UN.
(Laura, 17 January 2008 14:29)
that too will be an option but not the one desired. it's more of a last resort.
the upside is that we will not have to create another flag. :)
Dardania (Kosova) is already de facto independent. It will be de jure very soon and we will all be happy that this chapter finally closed. It is time for our people Kosovans and Serbian, to live as good neighbors, trade with each other, visit each other, work with each other. Whoever has a problem with that, in fact has a bigger problem in the head. We all know who they are. Kosova issue is very unique and it is more about the people and not about borders. People of Kosova have decided to be free, independent and souvereign. No one can stop the free will, not even God Himself! Politicians will come and go, armies will win and loose, leaders will be born and die, but nations live forever.
what he is thinking KOSOVO to it will recognise serbia like a state? serbia isn't any god for anything to kosovo so the best thing for kosovo goverment first is to build electric fence around the border with serbia like israel did to palestine and ignore that country existence....
The Russian offer, however, comes at a price: Russia wants to take a controlling stake in Serbia's state oil company,
Naftna Industrija Srbije, or NIS, at a fraction of its market value. Pro-Western factions in the Serbian government
have balked at what they called a "humiliating offer," and it remains unclear whether the agreement can be reached
in time for Putin's visit to Sofia
"Kosovo would have been independent for at least a half year already if not for Russia's stance," said Fyodor Lukyanov,
the editor of Russia in Global Affairs magazine. "Russia expects some kind of gratitude from the Serbs."
I would like to inform evrybody that post coments on this site that; SRSG on first page of his report has inlcuded the incident that took place in Gorazhdevac, which SRSG and COMKFOR were assaulted by group of Serbs led by School Principal in Gorzhdevac. I know every word on that text but I will not mention it here. You all will hear it for yourself.
"Serbia will never recognize Kosovo's independence," the president told the Security Council as he began his address.
Mr. President! In politic you NEVER say NEVER. Just find the way to make a better life for serbian people. It is wrong to follow Mr. Millošević ideas. It is wrong to follow Šešelj and Tomislav Nikolić, even Coštunica nationalist ideas. It is time for change and you lead the change before it is late. Milan Cosić, Toronto Canada.
I would like to know how Tadic plans to "disqualify" the Independence of Kosovo. He has already stated that Serbia is not willing to go to war to "keep" Kosova. Tadic was very quick to reveal this fact inspite of all the bravado and threats from the lunatic fringe. A very wise choice Mr.Tadic, since the alternative of resorting to war would set Serbia back 100 years.
I see that the UN is allowing Prime Minister Thaci to speak at the UNSC. Justice is being served inspite of Serbia's hollow threats!
Since Kate asked me what is my point I would respond.
Kate and Tom without Princip:
My point is that he (SRSG) can show indisputable evidence that the assault was ordered from Belgrade.
Actually, it is my first time giving my comment in this website.
It took my attention Tom’s comment and surprisingly by surname he looks that he has an Irish background, which means that he should know very well what Kosovars want.
In every official statement of Serbia government, they clam for the International Right of Serbia and respect of their boundaries and territory. But, does this give the right to Serbia to mascara and kill other nationality within so called Serbia territory???? In Kosovo’s case the last mascaras on 1998 was something that Kosova people have experienced publicly also before on 1912 and before that as well. It is not important what happened before II World War, but it is very important what happened on 1998 with Kosova people and this civilized and modern society and world community let it happened. Isn’t there an International law to respect other nationalities? Therefore, I believe that this is a lost battle for Serbia, as they had Kosovo and they could not keep it as they could not keep even the former countries of Yugoslavia. And you know Why TOM, because they wanted to prevail. Now days nobody can prevail against the free will of the people that wants freedom. Still there are teams in Kosovo looking for mass graves caused by Serbs, actually there are still discovering those in Bosnia.
Tadić pointed out there was good news for Serbia at the Security Council, "that there is no majority for any independence for Kosovo."
-That I believed all along. The UK,France and the USA do not make a world nor entire Europe. Those countries were trying to push for impossible and finally hit upon the resistance from the other countreis who do not dare to breach the law and to be taken as responsible for that sometimes in the future.
However, this is good opportunity to reveal the factual situation in Kosovo and bury down Ruecker's report full of lies. The least I expect from Mr Ban is to withdrow Ruecker from his current position in Kosovo.
Hi Klodi,
You are right in your assessment of the degree of Serbian crimes against humanity. There are many bodies of Albanian Kosovar civilians yet to be discovered. However, today B92 reported the finding of the bodies of 37 Albanian civilians in Prizren. A Serb Police officer admitted he had written a report of this crime back in 2001. There are many more bodies of masacared Albanians yet to be found. This information should be passed onto Tadic so that he can apologize before the UNSC, where he is speaking today, for these recently discovered murders of civilian Albanians by the Serb police. Many of the bodies were those of women and children.
Can someone tell me what is more important "keeping" Kosovo and Metohija with 96% non-serbs and leaving Srbska and Krajina or is better to fight for serbian people to live together in one state. Isn't better for Serbia to be seperated from the past and leave Kosovo free as Checks and Sllovaks did decades ago. Is any serb that see future of their kids in a better Serbia or it is better to see under bombed bridges from foreign country because something very disputable. I hope moderator doesn't see those question as anti-serbs remarks and leave people to discuss on those issue. Thanks. Milan Cosic, Toronto. Kanada.
are you suggesting you wrote Ruckers report for him ???
You clearly are lost for any rational discussion given that it is clear illegal Declaration of Dependence keeps on getting postponed!
EU would like to resolve this but at teh end of the day when they suggest unity then this is a clear message that it must be one that is on legal basis i.e requires Serbia's consent!
Dardania (Kosova) is already de facto independent. It will be de jure very soon and we will all be happy that this chapter finally closed. It is time for our people Kosovans and Serbian, to live as good neighbors, trade with each other, visit each other, work with each other. Whoever has a problem with that, in fact has a bigger problem in the head. We all know who they are. Kosova issue is very unique and it is more about the people and not about borders. People of Kosova have decided to be free, independent and souvereign. No one can stop the free will, not even God Himself! Politicians will come and go, armies will win and loose, leaders will be born and die, but nations live forever.
What I found funny in Tadic speech was when he said that what happened in Kosova in 1999 was due to Milosevic's regime, he died, Serbia was punished bla bla and now Serbia has changed therefore should not be punished anymore for crimes committed by then Milosevic's regime, in another words this is not year 1999. Right after that, he went on talking about Serbs who were killed , their houses destroyed etc, all in 1999.
So according to Tadic, we should forget and move on because those crimes were done by then Serbia's regime and in 1999 - and nothing to do with today's Serbia, but we should not forget about houses destroyed etc, as long as the victims are Serbs.
Well Mr. Tadic we can either talk about what happened in Kosova in 1999 and from both sides or we do not. You can't ask us to ignore 1999 crime against Albanians and only mention those against Serbs. Otherwise, you will sound funny. If it was Kostunica's speech then one can expect such funny speech but not from you :). I mean you look more sensible and more intelligent.
Milan,
I'm glad that you as a Serb living in Canada are realistic. I assure you that there are many other Serbs that live in reality and want prosperity for Serbian people. On the other side there are many Serbs who live in deception and myths mainly caused by informative darkness that prevailed in Serbia during the last decades (mainly a merit of RTS). I appeal to all peace loving people to head towards a prosperous future and not to return to the past which was tragic for many nations. Kosova/o is heading irreversibly towards independence that nothing can stop. It's time to reconcile and each party yake its own path.
Kate,
Ahmet doesn't have a point - he's just latching onto every little thing he can think of to fling some mud at the Serbs. From now on I will choose to ignore this character.
I do not know a huge amount about Boris Tadic but he's steering a steady ship at the moment and I wish him well in his address to the UNSC. I will repeat, that as long as the Serbian government/President stick together, they will prevail.
"but: unlike in albanian, there are is no doubling of consonants in serbian, such as your lovely 'sllovak' example there;)
except, now that i think about it, in this word: 'najjeftiniji', meaning, 'the cheapest', as in, 'trick'.
please be proud of who you are and do not try to mislead with serb names here. thanks.
(smile, 16 January 2008 23:14) "
Just to educate you a little since there is so much talk about Albanian and Albanians here.
In Albanian the letter ll such as in Sllovakia is considered one letter only, not a doubling of consonants. The letters Dh, gj, nj,rr, sh, th, xh, zh, are also considered as one letter and not as doubling of consonants. We consider them to be no different than the letters a, b, c , d, e ,f etc etc. The reason behind this is that in Albanian each sounds corresponds to a specific letter. So whether you make the sound f or gj each of those sounds correspond to that one specific letter, and you write the sound exactly as you hear it. This is just in case you are curious. I would consider doubling if in Albanian we wrote a word like "matter" for example where there are 2 t's. We do not have that in Albanian.
what he is thinking KOSOVO to it will recognise serbia like a state? serbia isn't any god for anything to kosovo so the best thing for kosovo goverment first is to build electric fence around the border with serbia like israel did to palestine and ignore that country existence....
I heard Tadic's statement same as the people present in there. The difference, me in front of my TV and they within the same room. From what I heard, Mr. Tadic does not care at all about Albanians living in Kosovo. There is no single sentence that confirms Serbias willingness to accept Kosovo Albanians as equal citizens in Serbia. I didn't miss this, what about other UNSC Members?!!! He was pleading and begging: PLEASE DO NOT PUNISH SERBIA ONCE AGAIN... We have changed... We are good people now... We are democraticly oriented... And, did not say any sentence about other issues, wrong issues that Albainans are affacted with... All he cares is keep Kosovo... He will hopefully never have it... Why Mr. Tadic doesn't start paying pensions to Kosovo Albanians, to the ones that have been working and paying all contributions for years long on the time when Serbia is paying same one to Serbs living in Kosovo (Salaries of Serbian teachers working in Kosovo 200%). Would this be a small sign in showing the world that Albanians are equaly tretad?!!! Asked about action plan, he answers no VIOLENEC but still teh document is to be secret... haahahha... Anybody believed it?!!! Why to keep it secret if no reason to be ashamed of... Thanks god, w have international community present in Kosovo, we have our individuals taht we have selected addressing to the same body and there are a lot of agencies, of lot institutions well informed about how Albanians were tretaed by Serbian Goverment and I believe this will give them a good view and strong reasons to recomend / decide... If for nothing else, I am not willing to be oriented towards Russia and China... I want to be oriented towards Europe and this gives me good excusse to give my best and organise my future on my own and not be part of the state (Serbia state) that consideras me as a second league citizent... Thanks but NO... And honestly, I am not ready neither willing to live under same paramilitary forces once again, under same goverment that hunted me and other Albanians in Kosovo years long... We were demanding equal rights for a long time and this was not heard. Now, we are not ready to go back on the same again. We will move forward and Serbia should not and can not prevent this. Even like this (with presence of international community, no independence but rather status quo etc) is much better than living under rule of Serbia. I would rather fly to teh wors state and start livign there but NEVER under Serbia again. I would go to Africa, I would freely agree to live in jungle but NEVER again under Serbia. Most of you do not now hot it is to have regular military forces supporting paramilitary units that are in your backyard and you stand in front of them hoping and begging the god for the safety of your 3 year and 6 year old children... I will do my best not to risk such a sittuation again. Yesterday, Mr Tadic clearly showed HE DOES NOT CARE FOR ALBANIANS AT ALL. ALL HE CARES ARE THE SERBS and he would put them anywhere its needed just to make sure they will vote him again. just to make sure his ego will be satisfyed, just to make sure he could say he won again... No my friends, it makes no difference what will UNSC decide... It will be individual acceptance or collective acceptance of Independance of Kosovo... And what counts is Kosovo will become independant... Best regards from Kosova / Kosovo
Hi again,
@ Frans
It seems that the comments about this issue are going to endless.
Frans, I should admit that it is true that KLA during 1998 did the same crimes more or less on Serb nationality than Serb army did on Kosovars. But I should say that in comparison with what Serbs did on Kosovars it was not so major thing. I am not trying to be the advocate of KLA here, but I should say that what they did (against humanity) was a kind of respond to Serb army. Unfortunately, in the war there are no rules, but I should highlight that Serbs started this carry on (crimes) first and if KLA did the same as revenge, still it does not justify their acts, but it should be proven.
Frans I should remind you that Racak was not the first massacre that Serb army did; actually it was the last so far. You have the massacre like Serbenica (at least 7000 assassinated), in front of the eyes of Dutch force “so called peace troops” etc. There were found guity some low rank Serb Police, but the big fish always escapes. What is really strange is that the war criminals are having support by the actual serb government by not handing them over to Hague. In directly this means that even the actual Serb politicians supported all the crimes that were made in Bosnia and Kosovo. We should not forget that more than 90% of the actual Serb politicians were in politic when Milošević decided to terminate Albanian in Kosovo. There was not different thought among them, but in the other hand also there was not protest by the civil society of Serbia against the crimes that were happening next door, so passively they supported them.
In one comment above by Michael said that Tadic can apologize before the UNSC.
Michael, I should say that first of all Tadic and Serbia should apologize first to Albanian Kosovars, than Serbian politicians should apologize to all Serbs for the seek policy that they have followed and continue to follow against their neighbours and other nationalities, and then we can took for their international rights on national boundaries. But I am sure that this will never happened.
In the UNSC, I am sure without considering the real facts and fairness; the respective countries have already set up their mind for what they think for the future of Kosovo. It has been already a practice of UNSC that before they start a session on Kosovo, surprisingly it happens a murder of a Serb minority in Kosovo (most of the cases the victim is over 60 years old) and the whole UNSC session goes around with statements condemning this crime against Serb minority in Kosovo and showing how bad are Kosovars and they do not deserve independence. So indirectly the life of one or two persons (Serb) supersedes over the lives of thousand of Kosovars that where massacred. My personal Opinion is that UDB (Serb intelligent) is very active and doing the home works properly.
Definitely, I should say that I have been in the borderline with Kosovo during 1998 helping the Kosovo refuges coming in Albania. I have seen with my own eyes people (civilians) old men, women and children injured for entertainment of Serb paramilitaries (others that did not show in the border were killed) . I have seen a selection of girls and women done at Border Crossing point taking them away from their families and sending them up the hill to the solders for raping and entertainment. Sometimes this happened in front of their families. In the year 2000, KFOR found by accident the body of a girl 17 years old, thrown away in the bushes 50 m away from Morini Border Crossing point with Albania. I wish and I hope that it will be given the chance to Kosovo for self governing as serbs do not deserve it.
@Klodi and others.
Interesting that you blame the Serbis for what happened in 1998. But more interesting is that a former PM of Kosovo is now on trail in The Hague and will most likely be sentenced to 25 years in prison for rape, torture against Serbs,Roma and others .........all done in....1998!! So, what you want to say? Not one Serb is convicted for any crime before Racak which was even doubtfull but for sure was after what the former PM did. Better stay in Ireland!
Tadic is the "Bill Clinton" of Serbia. Kostunica does all of the work while Tadic tries to take the credit for it. How strong has Tadic been against the EU mission? If you want to see the continued humiliation of Serbia, vote for Tadic.
"Kosovo free as Checks and Sllovaks did decades ago"
being a serb is what you would call, hardship and high honor, and therefore i can see why you would want to pretend to be one.
but: unlike in albanian, there are is no doubling of consonants in serbian, such as your lovely 'sllovak' example there;)
except, now that i think about it, in this word: 'najjeftiniji', meaning, 'the cheapest', as in, 'trick'.
please be proud of who you are and do not try to mislead with serb names here. thanks.
Tadic forgot to mention that after NATO took control of Kosovo more than 1000 Kosovo Albanians were murdered by NATO allies, terrorist KLA.
The entire families were wiped out. Legal term for more than 5 people killed is massacre.
NATO did not lift a finger to protect them and prevent massacres. This fact speaks volume about NATO's fraudulent humanitarian concern for Kosovo Albanian civilians.
The number of Kosovo Albanian civilians murdered by Albanian extremists before and after the war is higher than the number of Kosovo Albanian civilians caught in the crossfire between Serbian police and KLA terrorists.
Ahmet Isufi, Demaqi called Albanian silence about murdering of fellow Albanians after June 1999 great shame. What you can tell us about it?
I know that it shatters the construct of Albanian victimhood to pieces, but this is your opportunity to speak up.
Tadic : "We'll never accept Kosovo independence"
Sorry but Tadic has been on a slippery slope, with conflicting arguments.
He has tendency to bring up European Union.
He has tendency to bring up Serbia's economic prosperity.
Tadic should take a lesson from Kostunica and remain firm in his belief and principle.
Trust is a powerful force.
Well it looks as if the proverbial stuff has hit the fan with enough force to take down the ceiling.
Ahmet, what on earth are you on about? Im sorry, but your suggesting a school principal, who had many of his school students murdered while KFOR and UNMIK seemingly did nothing and as always with the albanians saying "no suspects or clear motive", would need to have belgrade give him some sort of plan to make him attack Reuker who said that nothing had happened?Re-think everything you have written, please. And it is about time that someone was shown the double standards of Reuker. He should be thrown in prison. Just like the kenyan officer who said that he took no sides.
518 Serbs were killed, along with 104 members of other ethnically discriminated communities," he said.
"841 Serbs were also kidnapped."
518 killed and 841 missing? those 841 are sure to be like the other 518. But according to Reuker nothing happened? The events of march 2004 were enough.
They have called on Article 39 of the rules of procedure, under which “an individual who can offer information useful to the course of the debate” can be allowed to take part. This says enough.........he is a guest. Tadic is representing a country, a state. Completely different in respect.
And absolutely a bliss to see that "war" is not an option. We've had enough of those and at our expense.
From MR tadic I could understand one thing. Serbia it is not willing to fight for Kosova but since Russia pushing them they can not gave up and accept the facts. All this is because of Russia. They want through serbia to take some positions in Balkans. Even Russia they dont care about Kosova. What they want is to prevent membership of Serbia in EU in order to in some way to occupy Serbia. Doing so they will acchive a lot of things. To cut Europe roads to Small Azia and Middle Azia and to Energetic resources. Russia is using Serbia against Europe. What I suggest to Europe is to forget about Serbia. There are a lot of roads which send europe to middle azia. It is Adriatic highway thwough Albania then Macedonia or Greece, Then through Hungary- Romania-Bulgaria etc. Leave Serbia isolate them and be sure they will not make any trouble aout of their borders. If they want to be occupied by Russia let them have it.
The Russian offer, however, comes at a price: Russia wants to take a controlling stake in Serbia's state oil company,
Naftna Industrija Srbije, or NIS, at a fraction of its market value. Pro-Western factions in the Serbian government
have balked at what they called a "humiliating offer," and it remains unclear whether the agreement can be reached
in time for Putin's visit to Sofia
"Kosovo would have been independent for at least a half year already if not for Russia's stance," said Fyodor Lukyanov,
the editor of Russia in Global Affairs magazine. "Russia expects some kind of gratitude from the Serbs."
You cought Milanche in lies as I am too. He wrote Kostucnica as Costunica and if he was a Serb I presume he would know how to write Kostunica with K and not with C. But let him be. Maybe he enjoys to be a Serb.
I believe that Serbian parliament should consider a possibility to postpone presidental elections - to time after Kosovo's declaration of the independance.
Western countries are counting on that people will be to devided with post election questions - missing the critical time to react on Kosovo issue.
You can denie things and they can still happen, my dear Tadić.If there would be any chance to prevent the death just not accepting it, I would live forever. So would you my dear Tadić.
Russia & Serbia says Kosova will never be allowed to join the UN.
Well there is a way around that problem. Kosova can join up with Albania that is already a UN Member, thus instant membership in UN.
(Laura, 17 January 2008 14:29)
that too will be an option but not the one desired. it's more of a last resort.
the upside is that we will not have to create another flag. :)
thanks, i am curious. it's good to know that about the albanian language. that's then a bit like out lj and nj which are also single letters. no one in the world will be able to understand how ll or nj can be one letter, but here we are, we understand eachother :) maybe we had the same language reformer, eh. or maybe they went to the same school in vienna :)
if i lived in kosovo i would definitely learn albanian. i wish every serb in kosovo spoke it. i also wish albanians in kosovo wouldnt pretend that they dont speak serbian. speaking a language is a good, useful thing, a beautiful thing and an asset.
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