Tadić looks at Kosovo's economic value

What is wrong with holding onto your assets if they are YOUR assets?

Kosovo is Serbian and if it happens to be a good asset for Serbia how can anyone expect Serbia to give it away.
When America gives up on Texas which was not theirs to begin with then they can expect Serbia to give up on Kosovo.

For those who will claim that this is the ONLY reason for Serbia's interest in Kosovo I say that it is a very weak arguement. You can have spiritual roots in a place that also has potential. Besides, Serbia doesn't have to explain why they wish to keep what is theirs. The fact that it is part of Serbia is enough no matter what.

I just wonder why Albanian posters protest after President Tadic's statement. That what he said is true and you must be foolish if you think that Serbia will just grant you its natural treasure. Besides, Trepca is in North and as far as I know Albanians have no access nor control over the North. You are living 9 years without any interference form Serbia and you were not still able to do anything for yourselves. Everyone else is doing it for you but not you. The funniest thing is that the guy from Siera Leone is working as reilway instructor and the last train went trough Sierra Leone in 1975 or something. So, there is nothing wrong that Serbia wants to preserve its own economical interests in Kosovo as well. However, while Belgrade was built and developed as other municipalities in Serbia, Kosovo Albanians were just misused the money that was coming from the all ex Yugoslavian republics in order to develop Kosovo. Albanians decided to still the money and boycotte Yugoslavia and everything that Yugoslavia was offering. It was easier to boycotte, demonstrate,ask for the Republic and doing nothing.

And I'm to assume that yesterday's threats of 'no partition of the north' by sejdu were genuine desire to live with the Serbs?

albanians have spent almost 9 years attempting to eradicate Kosovo's Serbian population.

albanians as well as the Serbs understand the value of the resources in the north. . .the only difference is that the Serbs still control them!

Slowly it is coming to surface the real reason why Serbia wants Kosova land without its population. K-Albanians and the International community have even spelled the problem to the Serbian population but until recently with no success.
Serbian government used the Krajina Serbs to try and gain access to Adriatic sea but with no success.
They started the war in Bosnia for the same reason with the pretext to unite the Serbs but again with no success.
They started the war in Kosova wit the pretext that it is the real cradle of Serbia but with no success again.
Now we see that Serbian regime and its claims have been false. They have deceived so much of their population. They have even sent so many of them to war.
They have sent many of Serbs to death as well and the strangest thing of these regimes is that they accuse the others for their blunders.
I think that time has come for Serbian regime to apologise to its( Serbian) population for start and than to the others for all the horrible thing done.

I agree Dino. Local people should conrol their local resources. That's why the Serbs of North Kosovo will have control of the resources in the North.

Aren't the Kosovo mines in north Kosovo that the Serbs control & that Pristina will never touch? It's a small price to pay for indep, 5 billion worth.

Nick said >> So you want the land but not the people living in it?

First of all Nick there is not 2 Million Albanians in Kosovo, this figure is grossly enlarged by the Muslim leadership there. The fact is no one really knows how many Albanians there really are anymore since up to 20% to 25% of them are illegal Albanians from Albania, from all the numbers I read from different news sources its more like 1.6 Million Albanians, 180,000 Serbs and about 70,000 others, for a total of a little over 1.8 Million people in Kosovo including NATO. I have no doubt that in about 3 or 4 years there will be 2 Million Albanians and in about 10 to 15 years maybe even 3 Million. I have to wonder how do all these people expect to fit in Kosovo which is smaller than most medium Canadian cities.

The Albanians seem very proud of their high birthrate I don't understand why? Anyone can makes babies, the question is how will you support these babies?

Well sure it is an economic issue first. All wars are economic. Kosovo has an economic value to the Western countries among other things. Come on guys the Western powers used slavery and colonialsm for centuries to concentrate capital and build themselves up. They just changed their stories but their intentions are the same. They destoryed lives of millions of people throughout the former Yugoslavia so that they can pursue their 'Great Game' against Russia. Which is all about energy. That's why they targeted ex-Yugoslavia and Kosovo. I think they went for destruction of ex-Yugoslavia primarily because of Kosovo. They wanted it out of Serbia and to put NATO in there and the only way they could do it was through encouragament of nations throughout the former Yugoslavia to break apart. That's actually what happened. This is just the continuation of that violent conspiracy that is now threatening the world peace. In my opinion they lost the 'Great Game' as Russia came back stronger than ever. They did not foresee this and are now in denial which may cause World War III. Nobody thinks it will happen and nobody thinks it is likely to happen. And that means that it is very likely to happen. Because nobody is taking care not to happen. Unless they change their course and stop the whole thing.

Peggy,

So you want the land but not the people living in it?

2 Million Ethnic Albanians live in Kosova and despite yur best efforts to get rid of them, they are still there and will be there forever.

Live with it.

President Boris Tadić says that the largest deposit of coal in this part of Europe is situated in Kosovo
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So Mr. Tadic, in that bush lie down the rabbit, instead the cradle now Kosovo become the coal deposit.

IN THE NAME OF INTERNATIONAL LAW: no more Trepca works and Belgrade is getting build, the slogan of kosovars for years.

"President Boris Tadić says that the largest deposit of coal in this part of Europe is situated in Kosovo.

...while visiting the Kolubara coal mines, and added that is why the southern province is also a major economic issue, and not simply an issue of Serbia's identity, integrity and sovereignty."- well its not yours Mr Tadic, capisc...

I really appreciate the sincerity its noble virtue.

The natural recourses in Kosovo belong to local people (Kosovars), and if they feel like seceding then be it. It does not belong to Belgrade or Tirana it belongs to Prishtina. This is definitely another reason why Serbia should be kept away from Kosovo. And can someone explain to me who wants to push Kosovars to live under Belgrade again?

bmrusia: "Besides, Trepca is in North and as far as I know Albanians have no access nor control over the North."

You are wrong, Albanians have both access and control over the Trepca mines. Trepca mines are in the north indeed but east of Mitrovica in a territory under firm Albanian control. What you have in the north is the smelter plant at Zvecan, but what are you going to do with that plant when we have the mineral and could easily build a new smelter in South Mitrovica close to the floatation plant. If the North is partitioned, it would spell the economic death of the region, unless you plan to live on handouts from the Serbian government forever.
Also the coal and lignite reserves of Kosova are located in the South, not in the North.


"However, while Belgrade was built and developed as other municipalities in Serbia, Kosovo Albanians were just misused the money that was coming from the all ex Yugoslavian republics in order to develop Kosovo."

The money that Serbia sent to Kosova, was used to maintain the martial law and the police state, as well as to bribe the Serbian colons into staying and bring more of them by giving them free land - taken from Albanians -and build for them free houses and businesses. And lets not forget the church building programme that was a priority for Serbian governments ever since 1912, in order to change the ethnic appearance of Kosova. That's where your money and our money went, not to improve the lives of average Kosovar Albanians. Did you forget that is was Albanians that were working in the mines of Trepca for example, yet the profits would go Belgrade not Prishtina.

Nicholas Klinsman: Where does most of the water for Kosovo come from? Also, from where is most of the energy supplied? These are important factors as well.


Water comes from the sky Nicholas, didn't you know that? It falls on the ground, and forms streams, rivers and lakes, and eventually makes its way into the ocean depending on the geography of the land, and back up into the sky. No one owns the water. The water that flows in Serbia through the Danube river, where does it come from? Should Hungary start demanding money for that water by the pound?
Electricity? Kosova buys it at market prices. Serbia doesn't want to sell, we'll buy it from someone else.

You people are really scraping the bottom with comments like this. If we survived Milosevic, we'll survive Kostunica for sure. What doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger.

Adrian Gashi,

First of all to tell you that if North of Kosovo was that poor, everyone including IC would let it merge to Serbia without any problems. Trepca in North has its own value as well as the natural resouces situated in Nort are not to be underestimated. I can asure you of that. However, you claim that all the natural resources are in the south and the Albanians are the one that exploate them. Lets presume that this is the true and I ask you where is the money from that exploatation? Is it invested in development of Kosovo? No, it is not since there nothing has changed from the day I left Pristna. The infrastracture is in its worst shape ever.

When it comes to the North of Kosovo and its citizens you should not worry for them since they are doing just fine under Serbia's control, much better than they would ever survive under Albanian control. Simply, Serbs were living once under the Albanian rule and had very bad expiriences.

Furthermore, when it comes to that bribing that you have mention it is really pure propaganda. I will tell you that when and since I was a kid that the first time I ever heard for the term coruption it was strongly related to Kosovo and Albanians. It was well known who were the Albanians and how easily you could achieve goals by bribing them. Still while I was a kid, the people around me were talking how the Albanians earn thier university degree in a few months. The thing is that there was a high rate of uneducated people amongst the Albanians and they came to the solution by changing that picture easily. There was the money that was granted from the all ex YU republics. Besides misusing that money for buying the University degree you were also buyning the serbian property from that money. In addition, you mentioned that Serbs were builting the churches. Well, that is the funniest thing that I heard resently since not a one churh was built anywhere in Serbia including Kosovo after the WW2 until the 1990.

Instead of being involved in development of its own place of living you were just misusing the money and that was the fact. If this was not the truth then you would already move forward and do something for Kosovo (since Kosovo is very rich in minerals, lignits..), but it seem that Albanians do not know how to move forward and instead they move backwards. Don't forget that you are living without any interference from Serbia for already 9 years by now.

Where does most of the water for Kosovo come from? Also, from where is most of the energy supplied? These are important factors as well.

Adrian Gashi and KS: You folks are really sensitive aren't you. I was hoping we could discuss topics with more openess and less rudeness. What happened to all that talk of good relations?

My question is where does Kosovo get most of their water from? This was a geographic question Adrian, but I'm glad to see you have a grasp of elementary level science.

If you don't know the answers please keep your mouths closed and wait for some other poster (either Albanian or Serbian) to enlighten you.

Otherwise KS please tell me more about those lakes and oceans Kosovo has access to for water. More info about that oil resevoir would be helpful also.

Independence or not the mines are located in the north of Kosovo and that part ain't going no where but Serbia along with its loyal inhabitance. :)

Sorry albanians but the Serbs will be getting more than a lump of coal this Christmas, they'll be getting a entire mine too. :)

The real face appears.

You can't have Tadic, No Greater Serbia!!

Nick KS, I will thank you not to put words in my mouth with such ridiculous statement as "So you want the land but not the people".
Where did I say that the people have to go?

The illegal Albanians who have come over for the purpose of inflating numbers and trouble can go. Genuine K-Albanians naturally have the right to stay on their own land.

If you cannot discredit my argument sensibly please don't irritate with making up rubbish I have not said.

To ABC: I can't speak on Texas, however in California there is a strong hispanic movement, and you can see lots of white and black folks getting out of areas becoming more and more hispanic.

The illegal immigration of hispanic people in the U.S. may be the #1 issue with voters, but the media is trying to play it down.

He should accept the fact that Serbia looted Kosova for 100 years from its labour and natural resourses. Hage should decide how much Serbia has to pay back.

Just un update: the north where the serbs lives are NOT where the mines are.
The mines are in the north-south where there are 100% albanians. Nice try

Dow Jones is down 204 points, Nasdaq almost 76 and Tesla of this site predicts World War III. Wow, what uplifting news!
Should I leave the New York area and move to Serbia, country kept out of trouble by Russia?

Why would the western European powers have wanted to destroy a federation that was such a significant trade and migration partner? The German recognitions of Slovenia and Croatia did advance things, no doubt, but the different republics had been moving apart long before 1991.

As for Kosovo, keeping it within Serbia really is a non-starter. Look at all the crazy conspiracists: People saying that the Kosovar Albanian birth rate is unbelievably high (in fact about as high as that of Americans), that Albanians from Albania would want to immigrate in large numbers to the poorest country in Europe, that Kosovar resources prompted Western powers to destroy Yugoslavia, et cetera.

Where does most of the water for Kosovo come from? Also, from where is most of the energy supplied? These are important factors as well.
(Nicholas Klinsman, 4 January 2008 22:26)

From Kosova maybe? You think we don't have lakes and oceans?

Tadic brings up an important point, a sovereign country needs a sustainable economy. Right now we are rich in minerals (gold, coal, etc) but can't extract it because we need a large investment. At the same time the Privatization offices can't privatize the mines for the companies that WANT to invest because Serbia claims those mines are Yugoslavias. Furthermore we're also seeing so many companies withholding from investing because they want a status for Kosova so those taxes don't keep changing over night. With independence you will see the economy up and running.

I would laugh if tomorrow there is found a large oil reservoir in Kosova....so much for that pipeline. :)

I am mexican and live in estados unidos. We are members of the aztlan movement and wish to secede from the hated white country US and A. Since we are becoming majority, like you are in kosovo, you will support us when we declare independence?

Serbia ,according to the Financial Times, sold one of it's major assets at a discount of over 500 milion dollars to Russian's Gazeprom.Some much for slavic brotherhood and unity.I quess getting a "friend" at the UNSC to threaten a vetoe does have a price but is it worth all that money for 80,000+/- Kosovar Serbs? Eventhough independance is inevitable.I'm sure that money can be better spent in Serbia proper.

Kosova's natural resources belong to it's natural inhabitants. Apartheid in South Africa and Kosova were abolished. There is a reason Kosova has had documented historical boundary/borders.Everyone outside the line is a foreigner.

Canadian
Your knowledge of statistics seemed impressive until you said that Kosovo was smaller than most medium Canadian cities. As far as population goes there are 3 Canadian cities with a larger population. As far a land mass goes Toronto which is Canada's largest city has a land spread of 21km by 43 km. Big difference in the size of Kosovo.

People think the mines are a big deal in terms of the economic development of a region, however many places with mines aren't in such great shape economically. In fact they're downright depressed.

For example, look at Africa or even places in the United States like Duluth Minnesota, Butte Montana, western Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Kentucky. Mines are no indicator of a strong local economy especially coal mines.

Peggy,
Why is Texas brought into question??? There is no movement big or small for Texas to separate from US. The large hispanic population in most states not just Texas came to the US because of the opportunities there. They have no separatist goals.

' I am mexican and live in estados unidos. We are members of the aztlan movement and wish to secede from the hated white country US and A. Since we are becoming majority, like you are in kosovo, you will support us when we declare independence?
(Pablo Juarez, 5 January 2008 05:46) '

Mr Pablo Jovanovic. Grow Up!

Slowly it is coming to surface the real reason why Serbia wants Kosova land without its population. K-Albanians and the International community have even spelled the problem to the Serbian population but until recently with no success.
Serbian government used the Krajina Serbs to try and gain access to Adriatic sea but with no success.
They started the war in Bosnia for the same reason with the pretext to unite the Serbs but again with no success.
They started the war in Kosova wit the pretext that it is the real cradle of Serbia but with no success again.
Now we see that Serbian regime and its claims have been false. They have deceived so much of their population. They have even sent so many of them to war.
They have sent many of Serbs to death as well and the strangest thing of these regimes is that they accuse the others for their blunders.
I think that time has come for Serbian regime to apologise to its( Serbian) population for start and than to the others for all the horrible thing done.

He should accept the fact that Serbia looted Kosova for 100 years from its labour and natural resourses. Hage should decide how much Serbia has to pay back.

Peggy,

So you want the land but not the people living in it?

2 Million Ethnic Albanians live in Kosova and despite yur best efforts to get rid of them, they are still there and will be there forever.

Live with it.

The natural recourses in Kosovo belong to local people (Kosovars), and if they feel like seceding then be it. It does not belong to Belgrade or Tirana it belongs to Prishtina. This is definitely another reason why Serbia should be kept away from Kosovo. And can someone explain to me who wants to push Kosovars to live under Belgrade again?

bmrusia: "Besides, Trepca is in North and as far as I know Albanians have no access nor control over the North."

You are wrong, Albanians have both access and control over the Trepca mines. Trepca mines are in the north indeed but east of Mitrovica in a territory under firm Albanian control. What you have in the north is the smelter plant at Zvecan, but what are you going to do with that plant when we have the mineral and could easily build a new smelter in South Mitrovica close to the floatation plant. If the North is partitioned, it would spell the economic death of the region, unless you plan to live on handouts from the Serbian government forever.
Also the coal and lignite reserves of Kosova are located in the South, not in the North.


"However, while Belgrade was built and developed as other municipalities in Serbia, Kosovo Albanians were just misused the money that was coming from the all ex Yugoslavian republics in order to develop Kosovo."

The money that Serbia sent to Kosova, was used to maintain the martial law and the police state, as well as to bribe the Serbian colons into staying and bring more of them by giving them free land - taken from Albanians -and build for them free houses and businesses. And lets not forget the church building programme that was a priority for Serbian governments ever since 1912, in order to change the ethnic appearance of Kosova. That's where your money and our money went, not to improve the lives of average Kosovar Albanians. Did you forget that is was Albanians that were working in the mines of Trepca for example, yet the profits would go Belgrade not Prishtina.

President Boris Tadić says that the largest deposit of coal in this part of Europe is situated in Kosovo
-----------------------------
So Mr. Tadic, in that bush lie down the rabbit, instead the cradle now Kosovo become the coal deposit.

IN THE NAME OF INTERNATIONAL LAW: no more Trepca works and Belgrade is getting build, the slogan of kosovars for years.

"President Boris Tadić says that the largest deposit of coal in this part of Europe is situated in Kosovo.

...while visiting the Kolubara coal mines, and added that is why the southern province is also a major economic issue, and not simply an issue of Serbia's identity, integrity and sovereignty."- well its not yours Mr Tadic, capisc...

I really appreciate the sincerity its noble virtue.

What is wrong with holding onto your assets if they are YOUR assets?

Kosovo is Serbian and if it happens to be a good asset for Serbia how can anyone expect Serbia to give it away.
When America gives up on Texas which was not theirs to begin with then they can expect Serbia to give up on Kosovo.

For those who will claim that this is the ONLY reason for Serbia's interest in Kosovo I say that it is a very weak arguement. You can have spiritual roots in a place that also has potential. Besides, Serbia doesn't have to explain why they wish to keep what is theirs. The fact that it is part of Serbia is enough no matter what.

Where does most of the water for Kosovo come from? Also, from where is most of the energy supplied? These are important factors as well.
(Nicholas Klinsman, 4 January 2008 22:26)

From Kosova maybe? You think we don't have lakes and oceans?

Tadic brings up an important point, a sovereign country needs a sustainable economy. Right now we are rich in minerals (gold, coal, etc) but can't extract it because we need a large investment. At the same time the Privatization offices can't privatize the mines for the companies that WANT to invest because Serbia claims those mines are Yugoslavias. Furthermore we're also seeing so many companies withholding from investing because they want a status for Kosova so those taxes don't keep changing over night. With independence you will see the economy up and running.

I would laugh if tomorrow there is found a large oil reservoir in Kosova....so much for that pipeline. :)

I just wonder why Albanian posters protest after President Tadic's statement. That what he said is true and you must be foolish if you think that Serbia will just grant you its natural treasure. Besides, Trepca is in North and as far as I know Albanians have no access nor control over the North. You are living 9 years without any interference form Serbia and you were not still able to do anything for yourselves. Everyone else is doing it for you but not you. The funniest thing is that the guy from Siera Leone is working as reilway instructor and the last train went trough Sierra Leone in 1975 or something. So, there is nothing wrong that Serbia wants to preserve its own economical interests in Kosovo as well. However, while Belgrade was built and developed as other municipalities in Serbia, Kosovo Albanians were just misused the money that was coming from the all ex Yugoslavian republics in order to develop Kosovo. Albanians decided to still the money and boycotte Yugoslavia and everything that Yugoslavia was offering. It was easier to boycotte, demonstrate,ask for the Republic and doing nothing.

Just un update: the north where the serbs lives are NOT where the mines are.
The mines are in the north-south where there are 100% albanians. Nice try

Why would the western European powers have wanted to destroy a federation that was such a significant trade and migration partner? The German recognitions of Slovenia and Croatia did advance things, no doubt, but the different republics had been moving apart long before 1991.

As for Kosovo, keeping it within Serbia really is a non-starter. Look at all the crazy conspiracists: People saying that the Kosovar Albanian birth rate is unbelievably high (in fact about as high as that of Americans), that Albanians from Albania would want to immigrate in large numbers to the poorest country in Europe, that Kosovar resources prompted Western powers to destroy Yugoslavia, et cetera.

Nicholas Klinsman: Where does most of the water for Kosovo come from? Also, from where is most of the energy supplied? These are important factors as well.


Water comes from the sky Nicholas, didn't you know that? It falls on the ground, and forms streams, rivers and lakes, and eventually makes its way into the ocean depending on the geography of the land, and back up into the sky. No one owns the water. The water that flows in Serbia through the Danube river, where does it come from? Should Hungary start demanding money for that water by the pound?
Electricity? Kosova buys it at market prices. Serbia doesn't want to sell, we'll buy it from someone else.

You people are really scraping the bottom with comments like this. If we survived Milosevic, we'll survive Kostunica for sure. What doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger.

Serbia ,according to the Financial Times, sold one of it's major assets at a discount of over 500 milion dollars to Russian's Gazeprom.Some much for slavic brotherhood and unity.I quess getting a "friend" at the UNSC to threaten a vetoe does have a price but is it worth all that money for 80,000+/- Kosovar Serbs? Eventhough independance is inevitable.I'm sure that money can be better spent in Serbia proper.

I agree Dino. Local people should conrol their local resources. That's why the Serbs of North Kosovo will have control of the resources in the North.

Nick said >> So you want the land but not the people living in it?

First of all Nick there is not 2 Million Albanians in Kosovo, this figure is grossly enlarged by the Muslim leadership there. The fact is no one really knows how many Albanians there really are anymore since up to 20% to 25% of them are illegal Albanians from Albania, from all the numbers I read from different news sources its more like 1.6 Million Albanians, 180,000 Serbs and about 70,000 others, for a total of a little over 1.8 Million people in Kosovo including NATO. I have no doubt that in about 3 or 4 years there will be 2 Million Albanians and in about 10 to 15 years maybe even 3 Million. I have to wonder how do all these people expect to fit in Kosovo which is smaller than most medium Canadian cities.

The Albanians seem very proud of their high birthrate I don't understand why? Anyone can makes babies, the question is how will you support these babies?

Dow Jones is down 204 points, Nasdaq almost 76 and Tesla of this site predicts World War III. Wow, what uplifting news!
Should I leave the New York area and move to Serbia, country kept out of trouble by Russia?

Kosova's natural resources belong to it's natural inhabitants. Apartheid in South Africa and Kosova were abolished. There is a reason Kosova has had documented historical boundary/borders.Everyone outside the line is a foreigner.

And I'm to assume that yesterday's threats of 'no partition of the north' by sejdu were genuine desire to live with the Serbs?

albanians have spent almost 9 years attempting to eradicate Kosovo's Serbian population.

albanians as well as the Serbs understand the value of the resources in the north. . .the only difference is that the Serbs still control them!

Aren't the Kosovo mines in north Kosovo that the Serbs control & that Pristina will never touch? It's a small price to pay for indep, 5 billion worth.

Well sure it is an economic issue first. All wars are economic. Kosovo has an economic value to the Western countries among other things. Come on guys the Western powers used slavery and colonialsm for centuries to concentrate capital and build themselves up. They just changed their stories but their intentions are the same. They destoryed lives of millions of people throughout the former Yugoslavia so that they can pursue their 'Great Game' against Russia. Which is all about energy. That's why they targeted ex-Yugoslavia and Kosovo. I think they went for destruction of ex-Yugoslavia primarily because of Kosovo. They wanted it out of Serbia and to put NATO in there and the only way they could do it was through encouragament of nations throughout the former Yugoslavia to break apart. That's actually what happened. This is just the continuation of that violent conspiracy that is now threatening the world peace. In my opinion they lost the 'Great Game' as Russia came back stronger than ever. They did not foresee this and are now in denial which may cause World War III. Nobody thinks it will happen and nobody thinks it is likely to happen. And that means that it is very likely to happen. Because nobody is taking care not to happen. Unless they change their course and stop the whole thing.

The real face appears.

You can't have Tadic, No Greater Serbia!!

Where does most of the water for Kosovo come from? Also, from where is most of the energy supplied? These are important factors as well.

Adrian Gashi and KS: You folks are really sensitive aren't you. I was hoping we could discuss topics with more openess and less rudeness. What happened to all that talk of good relations?

My question is where does Kosovo get most of their water from? This was a geographic question Adrian, but I'm glad to see you have a grasp of elementary level science.

If you don't know the answers please keep your mouths closed and wait for some other poster (either Albanian or Serbian) to enlighten you.

Otherwise KS please tell me more about those lakes and oceans Kosovo has access to for water. More info about that oil resevoir would be helpful also.

Nick KS, I will thank you not to put words in my mouth with such ridiculous statement as "So you want the land but not the people".
Where did I say that the people have to go?

The illegal Albanians who have come over for the purpose of inflating numbers and trouble can go. Genuine K-Albanians naturally have the right to stay on their own land.

If you cannot discredit my argument sensibly please don't irritate with making up rubbish I have not said.

Independence or not the mines are located in the north of Kosovo and that part ain't going no where but Serbia along with its loyal inhabitance. :)

Sorry albanians but the Serbs will be getting more than a lump of coal this Christmas, they'll be getting a entire mine too. :)

I am mexican and live in estados unidos. We are members of the aztlan movement and wish to secede from the hated white country US and A. Since we are becoming majority, like you are in kosovo, you will support us when we declare independence?

Peggy,
Why is Texas brought into question??? There is no movement big or small for Texas to separate from US. The large hispanic population in most states not just Texas came to the US because of the opportunities there. They have no separatist goals.

Canadian
Your knowledge of statistics seemed impressive until you said that Kosovo was smaller than most medium Canadian cities. As far as population goes there are 3 Canadian cities with a larger population. As far a land mass goes Toronto which is Canada's largest city has a land spread of 21km by 43 km. Big difference in the size of Kosovo.

Adrian Gashi,

First of all to tell you that if North of Kosovo was that poor, everyone including IC would let it merge to Serbia without any problems. Trepca in North has its own value as well as the natural resouces situated in Nort are not to be underestimated. I can asure you of that. However, you claim that all the natural resources are in the south and the Albanians are the one that exploate them. Lets presume that this is the true and I ask you where is the money from that exploatation? Is it invested in development of Kosovo? No, it is not since there nothing has changed from the day I left Pristna. The infrastracture is in its worst shape ever.

When it comes to the North of Kosovo and its citizens you should not worry for them since they are doing just fine under Serbia's control, much better than they would ever survive under Albanian control. Simply, Serbs were living once under the Albanian rule and had very bad expiriences.

Furthermore, when it comes to that bribing that you have mention it is really pure propaganda. I will tell you that when and since I was a kid that the first time I ever heard for the term coruption it was strongly related to Kosovo and Albanians. It was well known who were the Albanians and how easily you could achieve goals by bribing them. Still while I was a kid, the people around me were talking how the Albanians earn thier university degree in a few months. The thing is that there was a high rate of uneducated people amongst the Albanians and they came to the solution by changing that picture easily. There was the money that was granted from the all ex YU republics. Besides misusing that money for buying the University degree you were also buyning the serbian property from that money. In addition, you mentioned that Serbs were builting the churches. Well, that is the funniest thing that I heard resently since not a one churh was built anywhere in Serbia including Kosovo after the WW2 until the 1990.

Instead of being involved in development of its own place of living you were just misusing the money and that was the fact. If this was not the truth then you would already move forward and do something for Kosovo (since Kosovo is very rich in minerals, lignits..), but it seem that Albanians do not know how to move forward and instead they move backwards. Don't forget that you are living without any interference from Serbia for already 9 years by now.

People think the mines are a big deal in terms of the economic development of a region, however many places with mines aren't in such great shape economically. In fact they're downright depressed.

For example, look at Africa or even places in the United States like Duluth Minnesota, Butte Montana, western Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Kentucky. Mines are no indicator of a strong local economy especially coal mines.

To ABC: I can't speak on Texas, however in California there is a strong hispanic movement, and you can see lots of white and black folks getting out of areas becoming more and more hispanic.

The illegal immigration of hispanic people in the U.S. may be the #1 issue with voters, but the media is trying to play it down.

' I am mexican and live in estados unidos. We are members of the aztlan movement and wish to secede from the hated white country US and A. Since we are becoming majority, like you are in kosovo, you will support us when we declare independence?
(Pablo Juarez, 5 January 2008 05:46) '

Mr Pablo Jovanovic. Grow Up!