Kosovska Mitrovica: 8 Serb houses under attack

Here we go again. The Albanians continued with its democratic intentions and very skilled negotiations by using the only language they understand, the language of violence. Well, I gues they want control over the North and there is no one to prevent their whishes as the Albanians said it many times before. I just wonder where were those famous KFOR peacekeepers and their readiness to prevent such actions. The truth is that they are incapable of provoding the stability for Serbs living in Kosovo and thus Serbian army must replace KFOR in the North.

to Delije:

I highly doubt Serbs would do this to each other. This smells like the work of albanians. These are the kinds of things that were happening before Slobo said enough is enough - and the army was sent in. What is really a shame is how the international community turned a blind eye on those crimes. What's even worse is how they tried to blame us Serbs as agressors, when in fact we were and still are victims of albanian aggression. Except now the "peacekeepres" are just watching the ethnic clensing of Serbs from their homeland, and are doing absolutiley nothing to stop this.

Serbs had to deal with this kind of barbaric actions for years, so its nothing new for Serbs in KiM. Obvioulsy KFOR is obsolete when it comes to protection of Serbs in their own country!

This is yet another shining example of why Nato/UNMIK can't be trusted to protect Serbs and others from Albanian terrorism. What happened to all that talk from Nato, IE: "we will prevent violence?"

And thats why Serbs & Albanians will never live together in Kosovo. I'm sure that it was Albanians that did this. Not all Albanians feel this way but there's a group of them that want the Serbs out with the declairation of independence coming soon. And if was Serbs that did this they should punished for tring to start posible violence between the two. But I still think it was a group of Albanians that are tring to intimidate the Serbs in the North. But I've been wrong before.

Doni and Agami: Do you admit the possibility that one side might spark an incident for propaganda purposes? Perhaps, you've seen propaganda stunts before.

NATO is there to hold the Serbs down while the Albanians kick them time and time again things like this happen.There is no reason for it.Unlike others I think NATO can do something and chooses not to.It has nothing to do wih incompetence and everthing to do with intention.Why should Albanians stop we have told them already that we will not defend ourselves when they attack.

Good point Ratko, maybe Slobo was on to something when he took away their autonomy. You have to earn it.

Serbian safety always was / will be a concern in KiM.

I don’t wish to jump into conclusions as of yet. I would like to see KFOR bring some people to justice (whoever they may be, Serbs or Albanians). With this said, I’m not sure what kind of benefits would those whose homes were attacked reap from such actions. I am going to “assume” that certain part of Albanian population committed those attacks. There weren’t any repercussions in the past for such actions and West as always is turning blind eye toward such attacks. Who is there to stop anyone on Kosovo from committing violence? KFOR? I think KFOR is there only to help support secessionist agenda of Albanians who in turn are supported by European Union and United States.

Kosovo(a) Albanians will not allow Serbs to lead same type of secessionist movement as Albanians did during late 90ies and early 2000’s. Albanians have already done it all and know how these things work. While they still have support of the West they will probably try to kick out rest of the Serbian population out of Northern Kosovo in hopes that Serbs there would not have a referendum proclaiming their own independence from Kosovo(a).

Why Albanians should do this, when we know that it is in our interests to ruin our image for such stupid acts.
I think it is certain groups from the security services in serbia who have still old K-agents still employeed.

If this is the Albanian way of saying Happy New Year, it's going to be one long year indeed.

To all the people saying that this was a Serbian act there is only one thing to say.

KFOR would be only too happy to arrest the Serbs who are doing this as an example of how corrupt Serbs are and how badly and unjustly the Albanians have been treated.

They cannot arrest any Serbs because it was not the Serbs. Now they don't want to arrest Albanians as this would jeopardise their ambitions in Kosovo so surprise suprise, there are never any people arrested for any of these sort of crimes.

The biggest eveil is to blame the victims for the acts of the agressor against them.

I think this time you are wrong again.. it does not make sense does it? Now there are only few days before proclamation of independence.. why shold albanians atack serbs? It would be very stupid.. But serbs would have any reason to do it themselves.. and then tell the world, the serbian minority in kosovo is not secure..

regards, agim

Thank you for your thoughtful replies Doni and Agami. I would not think it's in the Albanian interests to make trouble either. Nonetheless, look at what has happened to the Serbs in Kosovo since just 1999. Here are some facts that you will have a difficult time disputing or alleging propaganda ploys.

"In Pristina, the capital of the province, only 110 Serbs remain out of a pre-war total of 20,700 urban Pristiners. In Prizren out of 8.300 pre-war Serbs only 65 elderly people remain; in Djakovica the last remaining Serbs are only 6 old Serb women living in a parish home, while in Pec there are no Serbs in the town, in which 9.100 Serbs lived before. In fact, in all Kosovo major cities the number of international personnel is higher than the number of Serbs who originally lived there."

This is a bad start for 2008. The situation reminds me very much of Northern Ireland. Serbs & Albanians must learn to start respecting one another. Both sides are clearly capable of terrorist acts and unless both sides are appeased by the status issue the future for Kosovo is bleak.

at Nicholas Klinsman,

according to me, this is just a propaganda mission from some foreign secret services who want partition to happen so that the dominio will follow.
But since there was no serb injured or god forbid killed, we must assume that someone in belgrade knew about it and supported it as long as serbs will be safe.
And this excludes the possibility of albanians doing it, it's not albanian style this. It's shame to do such a thing like this.

As always, it's in no majority sides interests to have done it.

What is most probable is a third party involved. But serb security must have known it, maybe the are serb agents or some loyal alb, employeed in some obscure underground illegal organization in serbia with conection to government.

But when this happens to serbs we immediatly think, now look at serb camp here say it must have been albanians.
as well as when happen to albanians we say the same to you, just because you said to us. And by this logic, a third party may be involved, especially now that independence will come. But form both sides there are certain groups who just dream that another fight starts between serbs and albanians. There are still past remains well hidden in our societies today under every pretext just to make their aims.

According to many sources K-Albanians can not even approach that area inhabited by Serbs. And what amateurish action. The Serbs tried to do some propoganda but no real domages. What a childish action. It is trully ridiculous.

There where probably old houses needed repair. These act are done by vandals of somekind, they don have to be Albanian by default.Vandals can be Serbs too, they have done similar act in the past just to provoke and fuel unarmed people of both nationalities.

Don't forget about the bombing of a Serbian bank in Southern KosovO - guess that was us too. I think not. It was a collaborative effort between the UNMIK turning a blind eye & the albanians skirting on the security of their UNMIK passports, which mind you are not valid in Serbia, which KosovO is STILL a part of & will remain a part of.

Joe said >>> According to many sources K-Albanians can not even approach that area inhabited by Serbs.

According to your sources? What are you now Joe a Hungarian/Albanian/American super spy? You must be the only outsider here who has inside sources. Oh please.... I personally think you are a Muslim who lives in Kosovo, period.

Nicholas Klinsman: AFAIK there were no attacks on
K-serbian minority for months..
You just have to think logically: Why should albanians attack a serb home in such a crusial time? And how is it possible, that not even one serb was injured by the attack? For me there is no doubt, it is/was a propaganda purpose behind this! If you have a better explanation that makes sense, then give it a try...

regards, agim

Please have a look at this page:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kosovo/etc/facts.html

Here en excerpt:
"
- Est. Number of Kosovar Albanians expelled from Kosovo by Serbs, March to June 1999: 863,000
- Est. Number of Kosovar Albanians internally displaced within Kosovo, as of mid-May 1999: 590,000
- Percentage of Kosovar Albanian population displaced during war: at least 90%"

The problem was, the crimes were commitid not only by police and army forses but alos by serb civilians, and they fled after NATO invasion, since they felt guilty - they knew what they have done.. We recognize them in paramilitary and police uniforms as well.. after all they were our neighbors for decades..

regards agim
p.s: My name is "Agimi" and not Agami :-)

You know, I think ANA patrolling in black ski masks and stopping people at gunpoint at this point in time wouldn’t help the Albanian interests either, but they did it anyway. It is possible it’s a message to Serbs that they need to leave soon.

However, that being said, its too early to point fingers or make outlandish conspiracy theories based on faulty logic. Stay calm and don’t let the “bad guys” (on both sides) drag you down…

2004 here we go again, Come KFOR you deployed troops to Northern Kosovo to secure the area and now you see what happens.

This is a typical serbian propaganda. A propaganda type of Milosevic times when nothing would happen and the propaganda machine under Milosevic would claim that number of violations happened against serbs. But this time nobody will listen anymore to this kind of pure propaganda.

We all know that Ahmet Isufi is masquerading as Joe.

In Bosnian neighborhood in northern Mitrovica there are no serbs. Actually this is an enclave where Albanians live and are protected by KFOR soldiers. The serbian houses must be next to that neigborhood and they mey be friends with albanians and also they except the new state of Kosova.

The propaganda we've been hearing from those pushing for indepence is that any delay would result in instability and violence.

So for the Kosovar leadership to have or even create such seeds of violence on the ground, it would be intended to give Europe enough reason not to develope cold feet and start pressing for further delays...If there is no percieved threat of kosovo exploding into violence, Europe would have no need or reason to rush things that also could potentially provoke
into an explosion of violence.

such attacks are horrible, and i have to agree w/the nationalist posters on this one point (and don't distort my words, again, censor!)-- the nato troops and kosovo/a security forces have to deal with this, whoever is the perpetrator. it just feeds fear, and it's true love partner, hate.
xxx roberto from san francisco

And the people live in this houses where not at home at the moment...what a game!

You have to admit, it's strange that in ALL of these houses that were attacked, nobody was home.

Whether done by Serbs or Albanians, I still don't think this event is very significant. It's just isolated violence between people who don't like each other.

But isn't anyone else tired of this? Just let Kosovo be independent already and let's all move on with our lives, including K-Serbs and K-Albs.

Laki,
This is because for fifteen years now most of the "independent" media in the West have acted as cheerleaders and PR mouthpieces for US/NATO. Anything that doesn't fit the agenda of US/NATO is simply not reported. There are only a few honourable exceptions.

Violence at this time is only in Belgrade's interest. I call on KFOR and KPS to do more to stop Serbian security services from such provocations. UNMIK should also allow Kosovo Government to establish counterintelligence services to stop these kinds of acts that aim to destabilize Kosova.

Few Albanians can go into these area.


There are many Serb militias and even Serb special forces that operate in these areas.

The possibility that this is indeed orcahsted by Belgrade
itself is very real.

It is convent times as Kosova seems to move every day towards its UDI.

No foreign independent media has reported anything about this “incident”. Only alien foreign media not in touch with reality that came up with this story is serbianna.com, which doesn’t count since it’s not in synch with current event in earth.

I think this time you are wrong again.. it does not make sense does it? Now there are only few days before proclamation of independence.. why shold albanians atack serbs? It would be very stupid.. But serbs would have any reason to do it themselves.. and then tell the world, the serbian minority in kosovo is not secure..

regards, agim

Why Albanians should do this, when we know that it is in our interests to ruin our image for such stupid acts.
I think it is certain groups from the security services in serbia who have still old K-agents still employeed.

There where probably old houses needed repair. These act are done by vandals of somekind, they don have to be Albanian by default.Vandals can be Serbs too, they have done similar act in the past just to provoke and fuel unarmed people of both nationalities.

at Nicholas Klinsman,

according to me, this is just a propaganda mission from some foreign secret services who want partition to happen so that the dominio will follow.
But since there was no serb injured or god forbid killed, we must assume that someone in belgrade knew about it and supported it as long as serbs will be safe.
And this excludes the possibility of albanians doing it, it's not albanian style this. It's shame to do such a thing like this.

As always, it's in no majority sides interests to have done it.

What is most probable is a third party involved. But serb security must have known it, maybe the are serb agents or some loyal alb, employeed in some obscure underground illegal organization in serbia with conection to government.

But when this happens to serbs we immediatly think, now look at serb camp here say it must have been albanians.
as well as when happen to albanians we say the same to you, just because you said to us. And by this logic, a third party may be involved, especially now that independence will come. But form both sides there are certain groups who just dream that another fight starts between serbs and albanians. There are still past remains well hidden in our societies today under every pretext just to make their aims.

According to many sources K-Albanians can not even approach that area inhabited by Serbs. And what amateurish action. The Serbs tried to do some propoganda but no real domages. What a childish action. It is trully ridiculous.

Nicholas Klinsman: AFAIK there were no attacks on
K-serbian minority for months..
You just have to think logically: Why should albanians attack a serb home in such a crusial time? And how is it possible, that not even one serb was injured by the attack? For me there is no doubt, it is/was a propaganda purpose behind this! If you have a better explanation that makes sense, then give it a try...

regards, agim

This is a typical serbian propaganda. A propaganda type of Milosevic times when nothing would happen and the propaganda machine under Milosevic would claim that number of violations happened against serbs. But this time nobody will listen anymore to this kind of pure propaganda.

And thats why Serbs & Albanians will never live together in Kosovo. I'm sure that it was Albanians that did this. Not all Albanians feel this way but there's a group of them that want the Serbs out with the declairation of independence coming soon. And if was Serbs that did this they should punished for tring to start posible violence between the two. But I still think it was a group of Albanians that are tring to intimidate the Serbs in the North. But I've been wrong before.

No foreign independent media has reported anything about this “incident”. Only alien foreign media not in touch with reality that came up with this story is serbianna.com, which doesn’t count since it’s not in synch with current event in earth.

Here we go again. The Albanians continued with its democratic intentions and very skilled negotiations by using the only language they understand, the language of violence. Well, I gues they want control over the North and there is no one to prevent their whishes as the Albanians said it many times before. I just wonder where were those famous KFOR peacekeepers and their readiness to prevent such actions. The truth is that they are incapable of provoding the stability for Serbs living in Kosovo and thus Serbian army must replace KFOR in the North.

Serbs had to deal with this kind of barbaric actions for years, so its nothing new for Serbs in KiM. Obvioulsy KFOR is obsolete when it comes to protection of Serbs in their own country!

to Delije:

I highly doubt Serbs would do this to each other. This smells like the work of albanians. These are the kinds of things that were happening before Slobo said enough is enough - and the army was sent in. What is really a shame is how the international community turned a blind eye on those crimes. What's even worse is how they tried to blame us Serbs as agressors, when in fact we were and still are victims of albanian aggression. Except now the "peacekeepres" are just watching the ethnic clensing of Serbs from their homeland, and are doing absolutiley nothing to stop this.

This is a bad start for 2008. The situation reminds me very much of Northern Ireland. Serbs & Albanians must learn to start respecting one another. Both sides are clearly capable of terrorist acts and unless both sides are appeased by the status issue the future for Kosovo is bleak.

This is yet another shining example of why Nato/UNMIK can't be trusted to protect Serbs and others from Albanian terrorism. What happened to all that talk from Nato, IE: "we will prevent violence?"

Violence at this time is only in Belgrade's interest. I call on KFOR and KPS to do more to stop Serbian security services from such provocations. UNMIK should also allow Kosovo Government to establish counterintelligence services to stop these kinds of acts that aim to destabilize Kosova.

Few Albanians can go into these area.


There are many Serb militias and even Serb special forces that operate in these areas.

The possibility that this is indeed orcahsted by Belgrade
itself is very real.

It is convent times as Kosova seems to move every day towards its UDI.

And the people live in this houses where not at home at the moment...what a game!

In Bosnian neighborhood in northern Mitrovica there are no serbs. Actually this is an enclave where Albanians live and are protected by KFOR soldiers. The serbian houses must be next to that neigborhood and they mey be friends with albanians and also they except the new state of Kosova.

If this is the Albanian way of saying Happy New Year, it's going to be one long year indeed.

I don’t wish to jump into conclusions as of yet. I would like to see KFOR bring some people to justice (whoever they may be, Serbs or Albanians). With this said, I’m not sure what kind of benefits would those whose homes were attacked reap from such actions. I am going to “assume” that certain part of Albanian population committed those attacks. There weren’t any repercussions in the past for such actions and West as always is turning blind eye toward such attacks. Who is there to stop anyone on Kosovo from committing violence? KFOR? I think KFOR is there only to help support secessionist agenda of Albanians who in turn are supported by European Union and United States.

Kosovo(a) Albanians will not allow Serbs to lead same type of secessionist movement as Albanians did during late 90ies and early 2000’s. Albanians have already done it all and know how these things work. While they still have support of the West they will probably try to kick out rest of the Serbian population out of Northern Kosovo in hopes that Serbs there would not have a referendum proclaiming their own independence from Kosovo(a).

Please have a look at this page:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kosovo/etc/facts.html

Here en excerpt:
"
- Est. Number of Kosovar Albanians expelled from Kosovo by Serbs, March to June 1999: 863,000
- Est. Number of Kosovar Albanians internally displaced within Kosovo, as of mid-May 1999: 590,000
- Percentage of Kosovar Albanian population displaced during war: at least 90%"

The problem was, the crimes were commitid not only by police and army forses but alos by serb civilians, and they fled after NATO invasion, since they felt guilty - they knew what they have done.. We recognize them in paramilitary and police uniforms as well.. after all they were our neighbors for decades..

regards agim
p.s: My name is "Agimi" and not Agami :-)

such attacks are horrible, and i have to agree w/the nationalist posters on this one point (and don't distort my words, again, censor!)-- the nato troops and kosovo/a security forces have to deal with this, whoever is the perpetrator. it just feeds fear, and it's true love partner, hate.
xxx roberto from san francisco

Joe said >>> According to many sources K-Albanians can not even approach that area inhabited by Serbs.

According to your sources? What are you now Joe a Hungarian/Albanian/American super spy? You must be the only outsider here who has inside sources. Oh please.... I personally think you are a Muslim who lives in Kosovo, period.

Doni and Agami: Do you admit the possibility that one side might spark an incident for propaganda purposes? Perhaps, you've seen propaganda stunts before.

NATO is there to hold the Serbs down while the Albanians kick them time and time again things like this happen.There is no reason for it.Unlike others I think NATO can do something and chooses not to.It has nothing to do wih incompetence and everthing to do with intention.Why should Albanians stop we have told them already that we will not defend ourselves when they attack.

Good point Ratko, maybe Slobo was on to something when he took away their autonomy. You have to earn it.

Serbian safety always was / will be a concern in KiM.

Thank you for your thoughtful replies Doni and Agami. I would not think it's in the Albanian interests to make trouble either. Nonetheless, look at what has happened to the Serbs in Kosovo since just 1999. Here are some facts that you will have a difficult time disputing or alleging propaganda ploys.

"In Pristina, the capital of the province, only 110 Serbs remain out of a pre-war total of 20,700 urban Pristiners. In Prizren out of 8.300 pre-war Serbs only 65 elderly people remain; in Djakovica the last remaining Serbs are only 6 old Serb women living in a parish home, while in Pec there are no Serbs in the town, in which 9.100 Serbs lived before. In fact, in all Kosovo major cities the number of international personnel is higher than the number of Serbs who originally lived there."

To all the people saying that this was a Serbian act there is only one thing to say.

KFOR would be only too happy to arrest the Serbs who are doing this as an example of how corrupt Serbs are and how badly and unjustly the Albanians have been treated.

They cannot arrest any Serbs because it was not the Serbs. Now they don't want to arrest Albanians as this would jeopardise their ambitions in Kosovo so surprise suprise, there are never any people arrested for any of these sort of crimes.

The biggest eveil is to blame the victims for the acts of the agressor against them.

The propaganda we've been hearing from those pushing for indepence is that any delay would result in instability and violence.

So for the Kosovar leadership to have or even create such seeds of violence on the ground, it would be intended to give Europe enough reason not to develope cold feet and start pressing for further delays...If there is no percieved threat of kosovo exploding into violence, Europe would have no need or reason to rush things that also could potentially provoke
into an explosion of violence.

Don't forget about the bombing of a Serbian bank in Southern KosovO - guess that was us too. I think not. It was a collaborative effort between the UNMIK turning a blind eye & the albanians skirting on the security of their UNMIK passports, which mind you are not valid in Serbia, which KosovO is STILL a part of & will remain a part of.

You know, I think ANA patrolling in black ski masks and stopping people at gunpoint at this point in time wouldn’t help the Albanian interests either, but they did it anyway. It is possible it’s a message to Serbs that they need to leave soon.

However, that being said, its too early to point fingers or make outlandish conspiracy theories based on faulty logic. Stay calm and don’t let the “bad guys” (on both sides) drag you down…

2004 here we go again, Come KFOR you deployed troops to Northern Kosovo to secure the area and now you see what happens.

We all know that Ahmet Isufi is masquerading as Joe.

You have to admit, it's strange that in ALL of these houses that were attacked, nobody was home.

Whether done by Serbs or Albanians, I still don't think this event is very significant. It's just isolated violence between people who don't like each other.

But isn't anyone else tired of this? Just let Kosovo be independent already and let's all move on with our lives, including K-Serbs and K-Albs.

Laki,
This is because for fifteen years now most of the "independent" media in the West have acted as cheerleaders and PR mouthpieces for US/NATO. Anything that doesn't fit the agenda of US/NATO is simply not reported. There are only a few honourable exceptions.