Wisner: Kosovo independence to bring clarity to region

Wisner's double talk is
beyond any reasonable person
can comprehend.We'll take
Kosovo away fron Serbia he
says but we will remain friends because there is a
large Serbian community
living in USA.So what? Is that related to the present
situation in Kosovo? Any
recognition of Kosovo outside
the UN is null and void.Read
your constitution Mr Wisner
and in particular Article 4,
proviso 3 and you'll see that
you need a unanimous agreemen
to break a county and recognise a new one.cOtherwise the USA constitution is not worth
the paper is written on.

It clearly shows that if the Albanians can land grab Serbian land it can easly grab land from FYR of Macedonia, Montenagro & Greese. With the help of the west of course. The Albanians can't stand alone, Serbia proved that when the crushed the western trained KLA. After they were defeated (KLA), it took the worlds army (NATO) 78 days of bombing to get the Serbs to sign 1244 and withdraw from Kosovo. Kosovo's indep will only cause more violence in the region. Starting in the FYR of Macidonia. You can't blame Serbia anymore when the blood flows there. That blood will be on the hands of the west, because the west started the domino effect of the Albanian goal of "Greater Albania". The west started something that they will regret and soon it will be out of control, starting with illegal UDI of Kosovo.

Mr Wisner, it would be wise to try finding solution within the framework of resolution 1244. By finding the solution within 1244 resolution the international law would be preserved as well as further complication in the region and not only in the region but worldwide. The compromise would be reached (and we all know that) if the USA was not that pushy in promising the independence from the beginning of the talks. Ahtisari's plan is rejected and therefore has no any function any longer. The USA's government should stay aside without intrfering in Euroepean's sphere of policy and I promise you that compromise would be reached. When it comes to long tradition in ties between the USA and Serbia maybe it is high time to draw the line. There was no much respect for the Serbs in the past decade thanks to the USA's policy. The USA has not make not a one step of good will in order to help Serbia overcome the crisis and preserve its interests but instead of good will the USA rather choose to act as Serbia's false "friend". There is the line that Serbia cannot go below it any longer.

"We can't go on like this forever." says Wisner...

I agree. and what´s best about it, US-americans will leave...but Serbia will still be there.

and UNSC 1244 is still in effect.

great.

Wisner said: "We can't go on like this forever".

I have a suggestion. Wait until the Israel-Palestine conflict is solved and use that solution as a template for solving the Kosovo problem.

Why is it that Palestine, Cyprus, Catalonia, Scotland and so on can wait, but not Kosovo? Why such a hurry to solve Kosovo without even trying proper negotiations?

No, I don't think the negotiations done up until now have been good. Albanians have been promised independence and have not been motivated to negotiate. Start over from the beginning with proper negotiations and reach an acceptable compromise where both sides loose a little. That is the only way.

"Serbia and the United States stood shoulder to shoulder in two world wars."

rest assured it will be the same if there is ever the third. in the mean time, shame on you.

"we tried to find a solution based on compromise."

These words are a bald-faced lie that, as an American, I am ashamed to acknowledge come from our State Dept.
That US policy is devious, cunning, and destructive of Serbia cannot be more plainly expressed than by Wisner, Burns, Rice, et.al.

"As an American I am very proud of our country's policy toward the long suffering K-Albanians of Kosovo and our support of their independence.
It is heartening to see that we continue to work for justice and liberty in the world true to our traditions.
(Joe,)"

Great! Bishop Tutu during his visit to Chicago said: "You (Americans) first kill them, then say: now you (Iraqis) are FREE."

You are completely blind if you still support your administration and its imperial policy around the world.

Albanians leaders from Kosovo do not hiding their intentions from the beginning. Below is a link to an article in Polish paper, "Gazeta Wyborcza". It is an interview with Kosovo leader from Thaci party, Nait Hasani. I just translate to you a small portion of it.

http://www.gazetawyborcza.pl/1,87294,4778218.html
===============================
Po og³oszeniu niepodleg³oœci, jeœli taka bêdzie wola narodu, powinniœmy zrobić referendum i zapytać, czy mamy być osobnym krajem, czy te¿ do³¹czyć do Albanii - mówi "Gazecie" Nait Hasani, jeden z liderów zwyciêskiej Demokratycznej Partii Kosowa (PDK). [...]
- Najpierw musimy uzyskac nadzorowana niepodleglosc, czyli te, która proponuje Ahtisaari. Ale powszechnie wiadomo, ze historycznie mieszkancy Kosowa i Albanczycy to jeden naród, który chce zyc w jednym kraju. Mamy jeden jezyk, jedna tradycje, jedna duchowosc, a Kosowo zostalo od Albanii odlaczone.[...]

Translation: "After declaration of independence, if this would be a will of the nation, we should have a referendum and ask, do we want to be a separate state or we want to join Albania, said to "Gazeta" Nait Hasani, one of the leaders of victorious Kosovo Party (PDK)[...]

-First we have to get supervised independence, the one proposed by Ahtisaari. But it is publicly known, that historically inhabitants
of Kosovo and Albanians are one nation.
We have a common language, common traditions, common spirituality. Kosovo was separated from Albania.
================================
Very good. Your administration fully support Greater Albania so it means violence on Balkans in Macedonia, Montenegro and even Greece. God bless you and your army.

Mr Wisner just makes confusion. He makes harm to the future relations in the BAlkan. But it is his right as American citizen. Balkans have to determine their future. I am afraid Albanians are to dedicated to the American interests, so to see any other option.

This is 100% correlation with Serbian proposals. Of course northern Kosovo is not going to separate, but problem is southern one.

Hey Jimmy, you think you had it hard under Serbia ex yugoslavia how you want to spin it. Before and during the war did Kosovo ever lose power? Now you have blackout daily and way because KEK sells the power that it produces and buys power let me see some body is making some money. now the elections are done and we have LDD and PDK sqaubbling over who gets what Ministries. the focus should be working together to achieve the common goal but as usual we have to fight over who gets what. LDD lost the majority and they still want to run things and they had no results. PDK has the upper hand now and LDD still wants to run stuff. Like i said Jimmy you think you had it bad under serbia just wait and see how bad things are going to get.

Kosovars will newer ewer eccept going back under rules of ex-yu-serbia.
Kosovars had it very hard, and any atempt by belgrade would be useles and just violence that's all.

my dear friend Joe,

if you were an american, what I do not believe, it would be an insult to the ideals that have created the United States of America.

you simply do not know what you are writing about here.

the US are breaching international law, they are putting themselves outside the international system of justice.
that´s certainly nothing you can be proud of, if have sympathies with the USA.

only a mislead albanian boy would try to present the current US-policy in the balkans as heroic and honorable.

you unveil your identity through your comments...

Odri,

As an American I am very proud of our country's policy toward the long suffering K-Albanians of Kosovo and our support of their independence.
It is heartening to see that we continue to work for justice and liberty in the world true to our traditions.

Your reference to the US constitution is out of context. In the US references to states would be similar to what you call provinces. This is for domestic interactions only it has no bearing on foreign relations.
The US Constitution was written 225 years ago, the basis which has remained unchanged and only amended which takes months or years to do. Unlike the Serbian Constitution which was changed last year in 2 days to say that Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia for argument sake.

Kosovars will newer ewer eccept going back under rules of ex-yu-serbia.
Kosovars had it very hard, and any atempt by belgrade would be useles and just violence that's all.

This is 100% correlation with Serbian proposals. Of course northern Kosovo is not going to separate, but problem is southern one.

Odri,

As an American I am very proud of our country's policy toward the long suffering K-Albanians of Kosovo and our support of their independence.
It is heartening to see that we continue to work for justice and liberty in the world true to our traditions.

It clearly shows that if the Albanians can land grab Serbian land it can easly grab land from FYR of Macedonia, Montenagro & Greese. With the help of the west of course. The Albanians can't stand alone, Serbia proved that when the crushed the western trained KLA. After they were defeated (KLA), it took the worlds army (NATO) 78 days of bombing to get the Serbs to sign 1244 and withdraw from Kosovo. Kosovo's indep will only cause more violence in the region. Starting in the FYR of Macidonia. You can't blame Serbia anymore when the blood flows there. That blood will be on the hands of the west, because the west started the domino effect of the Albanian goal of "Greater Albania". The west started something that they will regret and soon it will be out of control, starting with illegal UDI of Kosovo.

"Serbia and the United States stood shoulder to shoulder in two world wars."

rest assured it will be the same if there is ever the third. in the mean time, shame on you.

Wisner's double talk is
beyond any reasonable person
can comprehend.We'll take
Kosovo away fron Serbia he
says but we will remain friends because there is a
large Serbian community
living in USA.So what? Is that related to the present
situation in Kosovo? Any
recognition of Kosovo outside
the UN is null and void.Read
your constitution Mr Wisner
and in particular Article 4,
proviso 3 and you'll see that
you need a unanimous agreemen
to break a county and recognise a new one.cOtherwise the USA constitution is not worth
the paper is written on.

Your reference to the US constitution is out of context. In the US references to states would be similar to what you call provinces. This is for domestic interactions only it has no bearing on foreign relations.
The US Constitution was written 225 years ago, the basis which has remained unchanged and only amended which takes months or years to do. Unlike the Serbian Constitution which was changed last year in 2 days to say that Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia for argument sake.

Mr Wisner just makes confusion. He makes harm to the future relations in the BAlkan. But it is his right as American citizen. Balkans have to determine their future. I am afraid Albanians are to dedicated to the American interests, so to see any other option.

Mr Wisner, it would be wise to try finding solution within the framework of resolution 1244. By finding the solution within 1244 resolution the international law would be preserved as well as further complication in the region and not only in the region but worldwide. The compromise would be reached (and we all know that) if the USA was not that pushy in promising the independence from the beginning of the talks. Ahtisari's plan is rejected and therefore has no any function any longer. The USA's government should stay aside without intrfering in Euroepean's sphere of policy and I promise you that compromise would be reached. When it comes to long tradition in ties between the USA and Serbia maybe it is high time to draw the line. There was no much respect for the Serbs in the past decade thanks to the USA's policy. The USA has not make not a one step of good will in order to help Serbia overcome the crisis and preserve its interests but instead of good will the USA rather choose to act as Serbia's false "friend". There is the line that Serbia cannot go below it any longer.

Wisner said: "We can't go on like this forever".

I have a suggestion. Wait until the Israel-Palestine conflict is solved and use that solution as a template for solving the Kosovo problem.

Why is it that Palestine, Cyprus, Catalonia, Scotland and so on can wait, but not Kosovo? Why such a hurry to solve Kosovo without even trying proper negotiations?

No, I don't think the negotiations done up until now have been good. Albanians have been promised independence and have not been motivated to negotiate. Start over from the beginning with proper negotiations and reach an acceptable compromise where both sides loose a little. That is the only way.

"we tried to find a solution based on compromise."

These words are a bald-faced lie that, as an American, I am ashamed to acknowledge come from our State Dept.
That US policy is devious, cunning, and destructive of Serbia cannot be more plainly expressed than by Wisner, Burns, Rice, et.al.

Hey Jimmy, you think you had it hard under Serbia ex yugoslavia how you want to spin it. Before and during the war did Kosovo ever lose power? Now you have blackout daily and way because KEK sells the power that it produces and buys power let me see some body is making some money. now the elections are done and we have LDD and PDK sqaubbling over who gets what Ministries. the focus should be working together to achieve the common goal but as usual we have to fight over who gets what. LDD lost the majority and they still want to run things and they had no results. PDK has the upper hand now and LDD still wants to run stuff. Like i said Jimmy you think you had it bad under serbia just wait and see how bad things are going to get.

"We can't go on like this forever." says Wisner...

I agree. and what´s best about it, US-americans will leave...but Serbia will still be there.

and UNSC 1244 is still in effect.

great.

my dear friend Joe,

if you were an american, what I do not believe, it would be an insult to the ideals that have created the United States of America.

you simply do not know what you are writing about here.

the US are breaching international law, they are putting themselves outside the international system of justice.
that´s certainly nothing you can be proud of, if have sympathies with the USA.

only a mislead albanian boy would try to present the current US-policy in the balkans as heroic and honorable.

you unveil your identity through your comments...

"As an American I am very proud of our country's policy toward the long suffering K-Albanians of Kosovo and our support of their independence.
It is heartening to see that we continue to work for justice and liberty in the world true to our traditions.
(Joe,)"

Great! Bishop Tutu during his visit to Chicago said: "You (Americans) first kill them, then say: now you (Iraqis) are FREE."

You are completely blind if you still support your administration and its imperial policy around the world.

Albanians leaders from Kosovo do not hiding their intentions from the beginning. Below is a link to an article in Polish paper, "Gazeta Wyborcza". It is an interview with Kosovo leader from Thaci party, Nait Hasani. I just translate to you a small portion of it.

http://www.gazetawyborcza.pl/1,87294,4778218.html
===============================
Po og³oszeniu niepodleg³oœci, jeœli taka bêdzie wola narodu, powinniœmy zrobić referendum i zapytać, czy mamy być osobnym krajem, czy te¿ do³¹czyć do Albanii - mówi "Gazecie" Nait Hasani, jeden z liderów zwyciêskiej Demokratycznej Partii Kosowa (PDK). [...]
- Najpierw musimy uzyskac nadzorowana niepodleglosc, czyli te, która proponuje Ahtisaari. Ale powszechnie wiadomo, ze historycznie mieszkancy Kosowa i Albanczycy to jeden naród, który chce zyc w jednym kraju. Mamy jeden jezyk, jedna tradycje, jedna duchowosc, a Kosowo zostalo od Albanii odlaczone.[...]

Translation: "After declaration of independence, if this would be a will of the nation, we should have a referendum and ask, do we want to be a separate state or we want to join Albania, said to "Gazeta" Nait Hasani, one of the leaders of victorious Kosovo Party (PDK)[...]

-First we have to get supervised independence, the one proposed by Ahtisaari. But it is publicly known, that historically inhabitants
of Kosovo and Albanians are one nation.
We have a common language, common traditions, common spirituality. Kosovo was separated from Albania.
================================
Very good. Your administration fully support Greater Albania so it means violence on Balkans in Macedonia, Montenegro and even Greece. God bless you and your army.