Cabinet adopts platform, Gazprom reacts

Hilarious how the albanians have to bite at every bit they can get.

Cost for Kosovo's independence is how much? Oh ya, your long sought journey for self determination.... out of one hole and into another. You now serve another master...I can see the trend.


Gee Lenard as a Croat you really seem to care for Serbs. Your comment about your ten double hull tankers is full if it really, you country is selling off your most prized ship building company because it is lacking in business and suffers from debt. Croatian pipeline? Ya that will be starting from Bulgaria and going right through Serbia. Glad this is getting lots of media attention it could drive the price up for NIS. :)

Why don't Serbia makes a counter offer they feel is the right and reasonable price. Offer 49% of the Co then they will have control of the decision making and what is good for Serbia instead what is good for Russian interests. Or is the Serbian government trying to by Russian friendship and support at any cost and regret it down the line when it is to late.

"Energy Observer’s website wrote that the government had until January 18 to decide on the offer. And that Russia's gas and oil giant Gazprom expected a deal, rather than just a platform on continued talks.

This is an ULTIMATUM, 2 days before Pres. Elections.
Why?

First Russian offer was 750m+750m in investment, when it is estimated that only for 51 percent stake in Serbia's oil monopoly NIS is 800m alone. And now the offer got to 400m.

Economy Minister Mlađan Dinkić's publicly voiced dissatisfaction with the Russian offer.
He confirmed that it consisted of EUR 400mn plus investments, and construction of a gas pipeline at 2013 at the earliest for the 51 percent stake in Serbia's oil monopoly NIS, and dubbed the offer "humiliating". And also he wanted an international tender, for the price to be decided according to market principles. Why?

Prime Minister Vojislav Koštunica asked him the next day to resign from a government working group in charge of preparing the agreement. Why?

Most ministers "from the economic part of the government" did not show approval and enthusiasm for the idea, something the Russians "expected". Why?

Who is behind this, and why? I think here is the DONE DEAL in which the Serbian camp here avoids to comment.
If Serbia looses Kosova, it will not affect Serbia economically negatively.
It will not affect even the budget; on the contrary it will be a relief from the economic point of view. But if you loose NIS for so cheap, and pay for gas as everybody else and guaranteed as everyone as long as follow market principles, then you are not in advantage but in disadvantage, and this will affect Serbia on every aspect, rather than the loss of Kosova.

Hey people, this is only a platform. Lets wait and see what happens next. I don't think that Serbia will just grant NIS. I believe that government is going to make a wise move and perhaps won't allowed 51% in favour for Russia.

A92: Here are your full of it from Russian shipping publications. For example, Sovkomflot and Novoship, both among the top twenty tanker companies in the world, have some of the newest fleets in the industry. The average age of Sovkomflot’s ships is less than eight years, while Novoship’s average is less than eleven. The industry average, Intertanco reports, runs 13-14 years. Russian shipping companies are some of the most productive in the world and their programs to replace old vessels can be actively implemented. According to Tagir Izmailov, President of Novoship, in the next three years, shipyards in South Korea and Croatia will build sixteen tankers for the company. http://www.maritimemarket.ru/eng/6_2003.html
# Croatian shipbuilding industry, A.Markaran
The order book of Croatia's shipbuilding industry currently rates the fifth largest in the world after those of South Korea, Japan, China and Taiwan. In the past 50 years, Croatian shipyards delivered over 900 ships 21 mn dwt in total to customers in over 70 countries.
The country's shipyards and dockyards are incorporated into the Croatian shipbuilding corporation HRVATSKA BRODOGRADNJA-JADRANBROD d.d. Ships are built at three large yards, ULJANIK, 3.MAJ and BRODOSPLIT (the latter has a special purpose yard among its facilities) and three smaller yards, BRODOTROGIR, KRALJEVICA and VIKTOR LENAC. The latter is one of the leading dockyards in the Mediterranean. Russia and Croatia have a long history of cooperation in the shipbuilding sphere. During the almost 40 years of partnership, over 200 ships 3.5 mn dwt in total have been built in Croatia for Russia, Georgia, Latvia and Azerbaijan. http://www.maritimemarket.ru/eng/6_2003.html

Cost of security council veto!?!?

Dear serbian posters you woke up the russian bear and now you feel it was not time? I mean i thought the russians were respecting the int law and not waiting to rob serbia blind. The day will come that that bear will take whats on paper theirs and all this business for tit for tat will leave a sour taste in the serb mouth just like other ex ussr countrys.
Happy new year to all

Costs of Kremlin "friendship".

While half of the donkeys' body was inside wolves' mouth, "little donkey" closed his eyes and said: I hope I'm dreaming...

Dear serbian posters you woke up the russian bear and now you feel it was not time? I mean i thought the russians were respecting the int law and not waiting to rob serbia blind. The day will come that that bear will take whats on paper theirs and all this business for tit for tat will leave a sour taste in the serb mouth just like other ex ussr countrys.
Happy new year to all

Costs of Kremlin "friendship".

Cost of security council veto!?!?

Why don't Serbia makes a counter offer they feel is the right and reasonable price. Offer 49% of the Co then they will have control of the decision making and what is good for Serbia instead what is good for Russian interests. Or is the Serbian government trying to by Russian friendship and support at any cost and regret it down the line when it is to late.

"Energy Observer’s website wrote that the government had until January 18 to decide on the offer. And that Russia's gas and oil giant Gazprom expected a deal, rather than just a platform on continued talks.

This is an ULTIMATUM, 2 days before Pres. Elections.
Why?

First Russian offer was 750m+750m in investment, when it is estimated that only for 51 percent stake in Serbia's oil monopoly NIS is 800m alone. And now the offer got to 400m.

Economy Minister Mlađan Dinkić's publicly voiced dissatisfaction with the Russian offer.
He confirmed that it consisted of EUR 400mn plus investments, and construction of a gas pipeline at 2013 at the earliest for the 51 percent stake in Serbia's oil monopoly NIS, and dubbed the offer "humiliating". And also he wanted an international tender, for the price to be decided according to market principles. Why?

Prime Minister Vojislav Koštunica asked him the next day to resign from a government working group in charge of preparing the agreement. Why?

Most ministers "from the economic part of the government" did not show approval and enthusiasm for the idea, something the Russians "expected". Why?

Who is behind this, and why? I think here is the DONE DEAL in which the Serbian camp here avoids to comment.
If Serbia looses Kosova, it will not affect Serbia economically negatively.
It will not affect even the budget; on the contrary it will be a relief from the economic point of view. But if you loose NIS for so cheap, and pay for gas as everybody else and guaranteed as everyone as long as follow market principles, then you are not in advantage but in disadvantage, and this will affect Serbia on every aspect, rather than the loss of Kosova.

While half of the donkeys' body was inside wolves' mouth, "little donkey" closed his eyes and said: I hope I'm dreaming...

Hey people, this is only a platform. Lets wait and see what happens next. I don't think that Serbia will just grant NIS. I believe that government is going to make a wise move and perhaps won't allowed 51% in favour for Russia.

Hilarious how the albanians have to bite at every bit they can get.

Cost for Kosovo's independence is how much? Oh ya, your long sought journey for self determination.... out of one hole and into another. You now serve another master...I can see the trend.


Gee Lenard as a Croat you really seem to care for Serbs. Your comment about your ten double hull tankers is full if it really, you country is selling off your most prized ship building company because it is lacking in business and suffers from debt. Croatian pipeline? Ya that will be starting from Bulgaria and going right through Serbia. Glad this is getting lots of media attention it could drive the price up for NIS. :)

A92: Here are your full of it from Russian shipping publications. For example, Sovkomflot and Novoship, both among the top twenty tanker companies in the world, have some of the newest fleets in the industry. The average age of Sovkomflot’s ships is less than eight years, while Novoship’s average is less than eleven. The industry average, Intertanco reports, runs 13-14 years. Russian shipping companies are some of the most productive in the world and their programs to replace old vessels can be actively implemented. According to Tagir Izmailov, President of Novoship, in the next three years, shipyards in South Korea and Croatia will build sixteen tankers for the company. http://www.maritimemarket.ru/eng/6_2003.html
# Croatian shipbuilding industry, A.Markaran
The order book of Croatia's shipbuilding industry currently rates the fifth largest in the world after those of South Korea, Japan, China and Taiwan. In the past 50 years, Croatian shipyards delivered over 900 ships 21 mn dwt in total to customers in over 70 countries.
The country's shipyards and dockyards are incorporated into the Croatian shipbuilding corporation HRVATSKA BRODOGRADNJA-JADRANBROD d.d. Ships are built at three large yards, ULJANIK, 3.MAJ and BRODOSPLIT (the latter has a special purpose yard among its facilities) and three smaller yards, BRODOTROGIR, KRALJEVICA and VIKTOR LENAC. The latter is one of the leading dockyards in the Mediterranean. Russia and Croatia have a long history of cooperation in the shipbuilding sphere. During the almost 40 years of partnership, over 200 ships 3.5 mn dwt in total have been built in Croatia for Russia, Georgia, Latvia and Azerbaijan. http://www.maritimemarket.ru/eng/6_2003.html