GSP
pre 16 godina
to Joe -
http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/Tesla/TeslaversusEdison.htm
Nice try!
Friday, 28.12.2007.
17:01
The Serbian ambassador to the U.S. Friday commented on the current state of relations between the two countries.
Izvor: B92
pre 16 godina
to Joe -
http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/Tesla/TeslaversusEdison.htm
Nice try!
pre 16 godina
Roger7, Stevan...and all others...
don´t worry about "Joe", he´s neither an american-hungarian, nor is he knowing enough of the balkans to be a serious contributor here...
just take him as what he actually is: an individual, eager to provoke others...that´s all he can do here...
since he, to this day, never presented one single argument, it was always and only accusations and belittling comments...
what shows what we are dealing with here...
don´t take that too serious!
pre 16 godina
Shame. A long friendship being thrown away for a handful of gold.
And just think, Albanians are dying to get a loyal friend like America.
With friends like these.
pre 16 godina
Joe, you should now better. Greek clergyman – it is true that we share our religion with our Greek brothers, but Nikola’s father Milutin Tesla, was a Serb orthodox priest, most definitely a Serb. He was born in Lika. His family emigrated from Serbia via Herzegovina to Lika in the XVII century. (Lika was a part of the military frontier against the Turks, populated by a Serb frontier-man who defended Austro-Hungarian eastern borders for centuries.
http://www.teslasociety.com/teslavillage.htm
As for Nikola’s scientific work, he was a real genius, far ahead of his time, enormously inventive. Most practically valuable peace of his work to us is complete process of producing, transporting and using of alternate current electricity as we now it today. Generators, transformators, electro motors, these are all his inventions.
http://www.mall-usa.com/BPCS/tesla.html
pre 16 godina
Joe said…”You could even break your relations with us. Do you think anybody would care?”
Rude, this comment is just rude. While you claim to live in the US now, you apparently did not learn in your formative years to be respectful and tolerant of others.
Joe says…”So much for Tesla as a Serb and as an inventor of the light bulb.”
In your constant attempts to discredit everything Serbian, you continue to spread misinformation.
That Tesla was a subject of the Austro-Hungarian Empire did not negate the fact that he was genetically a Serb.
In the US, the television station PBS (Public Broadcasting Station) did a piece on Tesla. It included the following…
“Nikola Tesla was born a subject of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1856 in a mountainous area of the Balkan Peninsula known as Lika. His father Milutin, and his mother Djuka, were both Serbian by origin. Tesla's father was a stern but loving Orthodox priest, who was also a gifted writer and poet.”
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/
You should look at you own errors before you chastise others.
The question is Joe, “Do you think anybody would care?”
pre 16 godina
Mark, why do you love to twist the words of Serbian posters here.
They mean to say for the American military and other non residential Americans to return home.
How how do you draw a parallel with American Serbs being told by America to return home and American military to return home?
Obviously you don't, but are only being sarcastic or trying to say something which doesn't make any sense.
pre 16 godina
Joe and Mark: Serbians are free to choose their own path. If I were you I'd worry more about establishing some Albanian contributions to American society rather than ridiculing Serbian contributions.
pre 16 godina
GSP,
Extract from Encyclopedia Americana: "TESLA, Nicola, American electrical inventor: b. Smiljan, Croatia, on the Austro-Hungarian border, July 9, 1856: d. New York, N. Y., Jan. 7, 1943. His father was a Greek clergyman and orator, his mather, Georgina Mandic, an inventor, as was her father".
Further it was noted that he studied in Gospic, Karlovac, Graz and Prague and started his professional career in Budapest in 1881. He emigrated to the US in 1884 and became a naturalized citizen. For a time he was associated with Thomas A. Edison. His inventions are listed but the light bulb is none of them.
The same encyclopedia lists under Edison's inventions the incandescent electric lamp.
So much for Tesla as a Serb and as an inventor of the light bulb.
pre 16 godina
Sarcasm on side…. True, there aren’t many Serbian products on American shelves and it’s also true that America doesn’t really give a damn about their relationship with Serbia. With this said; as someone who is deeply involved with US foreign policy I can promise you that further alienation of US Politics from its former European allies will eventually reflect negatively on United States. Sooner or later as a world power, America will have to rethink its international policies (or lack thereof) and make some radical changes.
pre 16 godina
my dear albanian friends..
your childish eagerness to display your anti-serbian sentiments here...is perhaps amusing, if it is anything at all.
but at the same time it displays your greatest weakness: your subliminal fear of Serbia and all what is connected to Serbia.
in distinction from your rather weak attempts to show how "strong" and "hard" you are... I am quite moderate in regard to the US.
although they bombed Serbia for 78 days, without a legal ground, without daring to fly below 6000 feet ( "greatest one and only superpower in the world" ) and while using depleted uranium shells.
I know that the average American citizen sides with Serbia and international law.
it´s not only some written nonsense like you use to post here...it´s just a fact.
many of my american colleagues, friends and partners are telling me that every time we talk about this issue.
so, the bottomline is:
pre 16 godina
Joe, I sincerely doubt you are American and in fact I suspect you are of the mixed variety of Albanian and Hungarian. However, I think you were probably born in Kosovo thus making you first and foremost a Serbian.
pre 16 godina
Bravo Ida!!
To JOE - every single light bulb you purchase in your store was invented by Nikola Tesla.
CCCC
pre 16 godina
I think that would be a "disaster" for the USA.
George W Bush must be having "sleepless night" about Serbia's threat....
pre 16 godina
Mark, Joe, get serious for a minute. While severing of relations with Belgrade would be little more than a passing thought to the average American, it is still a blight on America's already blighted foreign policy record. I seriously hope it doesn't come to that, and making devil-may-care remarks over something this serious misses the point of the article.
And yes Joe, Serbian products are on America's shelves: just check your local liquor store for shljivovitsa - a travesty if it's no longer there! :)
pre 16 godina
No, the point is the U.S.'s obsession, meddling and involvement in Serbia. It's not that Serbian and the U.S. have any trade, but that the U.S. harms Serbs and Serbia would rather the U.S. IGNORE Serbia.
In other words Serbia would do better and be healthier if the U.S. was uninvolved.
As for the Serbian-Americans - they all pay taxes and they all do work in the U.S. This of course includes professors, scientists/inventors - many with patents - including on supercomputers.
The Serbs aren't doing HARM to America but being good citizens enriching America. However, America is harming a people (and its children) who've done nothing bad to America.
Actually, if the Serbian Americans left the U.S. and took their talents to Russia, China and other countries, it would be a net loss for the U.S. as Serbs are hard workers and often of high quality.
Even in the past, many Serbs worked the tough mining jobs and they worked also in the steel and automobile industries.
That's why I say the talented and smart Serbs should not go to the U.S. as the U.S. doesn't deserve anything from Serbs. And unfortunately those Serbs will often be harnesses to pay into the U.S. military machine.
pre 16 godina
It's truly amazing how during Woodrow Wilson's presidency the Serbian flag flew over the White House in Washington, DC & now we're not even being acknowledged. It's either the US way or no way.
You're right Jovan, there IS still International Law!
CCCC
pre 16 godina
Oh yes Mark. Can you imagine all those half-empty supermarkets because of the absense of Serbian products?
That reminds me that I never encountered even one Serbian product in our stores.
pre 16 godina
how on earth would america, the west and all those who support independence manage to survive in today's world without having an embassy in belgrade? not to mention all those glorious export items from belgrade. (sarcasm)
pre 16 godina
Jovan,
You could even break your relations with us. Do you think anybody would care?
pre 16 godina
return home? would you advice america to tell serbian-americans to do the same?
pre 16 godina
the Americans should get a clear signal.
return home and leave only some minor representative there to keep an eye on serbian property...
and improve the connections with those countries wich are respecting the rule of law instead of the rule of the jungle...
but there is still international law... :)
pre 16 godina
the Americans should get a clear signal.
return home and leave only some minor representative there to keep an eye on serbian property...
and improve the connections with those countries wich are respecting the rule of law instead of the rule of the jungle...
but there is still international law... :)
pre 16 godina
It's truly amazing how during Woodrow Wilson's presidency the Serbian flag flew over the White House in Washington, DC & now we're not even being acknowledged. It's either the US way or no way.
You're right Jovan, there IS still International Law!
CCCC
pre 16 godina
how on earth would america, the west and all those who support independence manage to survive in today's world without having an embassy in belgrade? not to mention all those glorious export items from belgrade. (sarcasm)
pre 16 godina
Mark, Joe, get serious for a minute. While severing of relations with Belgrade would be little more than a passing thought to the average American, it is still a blight on America's already blighted foreign policy record. I seriously hope it doesn't come to that, and making devil-may-care remarks over something this serious misses the point of the article.
And yes Joe, Serbian products are on America's shelves: just check your local liquor store for shljivovitsa - a travesty if it's no longer there! :)
pre 16 godina
Jovan,
You could even break your relations with us. Do you think anybody would care?
pre 16 godina
No, the point is the U.S.'s obsession, meddling and involvement in Serbia. It's not that Serbian and the U.S. have any trade, but that the U.S. harms Serbs and Serbia would rather the U.S. IGNORE Serbia.
In other words Serbia would do better and be healthier if the U.S. was uninvolved.
As for the Serbian-Americans - they all pay taxes and they all do work in the U.S. This of course includes professors, scientists/inventors - many with patents - including on supercomputers.
The Serbs aren't doing HARM to America but being good citizens enriching America. However, America is harming a people (and its children) who've done nothing bad to America.
Actually, if the Serbian Americans left the U.S. and took their talents to Russia, China and other countries, it would be a net loss for the U.S. as Serbs are hard workers and often of high quality.
Even in the past, many Serbs worked the tough mining jobs and they worked also in the steel and automobile industries.
That's why I say the talented and smart Serbs should not go to the U.S. as the U.S. doesn't deserve anything from Serbs. And unfortunately those Serbs will often be harnesses to pay into the U.S. military machine.
pre 16 godina
return home? would you advice america to tell serbian-americans to do the same?
pre 16 godina
Oh yes Mark. Can you imagine all those half-empty supermarkets because of the absense of Serbian products?
That reminds me that I never encountered even one Serbian product in our stores.
pre 16 godina
I think that would be a "disaster" for the USA.
George W Bush must be having "sleepless night" about Serbia's threat....
pre 16 godina
Joe and Mark: Serbians are free to choose their own path. If I were you I'd worry more about establishing some Albanian contributions to American society rather than ridiculing Serbian contributions.
pre 16 godina
Sarcasm on side…. True, there aren’t many Serbian products on American shelves and it’s also true that America doesn’t really give a damn about their relationship with Serbia. With this said; as someone who is deeply involved with US foreign policy I can promise you that further alienation of US Politics from its former European allies will eventually reflect negatively on United States. Sooner or later as a world power, America will have to rethink its international policies (or lack thereof) and make some radical changes.
pre 16 godina
Mark, why do you love to twist the words of Serbian posters here.
They mean to say for the American military and other non residential Americans to return home.
How how do you draw a parallel with American Serbs being told by America to return home and American military to return home?
Obviously you don't, but are only being sarcastic or trying to say something which doesn't make any sense.
pre 16 godina
Joe said…”You could even break your relations with us. Do you think anybody would care?”
Rude, this comment is just rude. While you claim to live in the US now, you apparently did not learn in your formative years to be respectful and tolerant of others.
Joe says…”So much for Tesla as a Serb and as an inventor of the light bulb.”
In your constant attempts to discredit everything Serbian, you continue to spread misinformation.
That Tesla was a subject of the Austro-Hungarian Empire did not negate the fact that he was genetically a Serb.
In the US, the television station PBS (Public Broadcasting Station) did a piece on Tesla. It included the following…
“Nikola Tesla was born a subject of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1856 in a mountainous area of the Balkan Peninsula known as Lika. His father Milutin, and his mother Djuka, were both Serbian by origin. Tesla's father was a stern but loving Orthodox priest, who was also a gifted writer and poet.”
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/
You should look at you own errors before you chastise others.
The question is Joe, “Do you think anybody would care?”
pre 16 godina
Bravo Ida!!
To JOE - every single light bulb you purchase in your store was invented by Nikola Tesla.
CCCC
pre 16 godina
Joe, I sincerely doubt you are American and in fact I suspect you are of the mixed variety of Albanian and Hungarian. However, I think you were probably born in Kosovo thus making you first and foremost a Serbian.
pre 16 godina
my dear albanian friends..
your childish eagerness to display your anti-serbian sentiments here...is perhaps amusing, if it is anything at all.
but at the same time it displays your greatest weakness: your subliminal fear of Serbia and all what is connected to Serbia.
in distinction from your rather weak attempts to show how "strong" and "hard" you are... I am quite moderate in regard to the US.
although they bombed Serbia for 78 days, without a legal ground, without daring to fly below 6000 feet ( "greatest one and only superpower in the world" ) and while using depleted uranium shells.
I know that the average American citizen sides with Serbia and international law.
it´s not only some written nonsense like you use to post here...it´s just a fact.
many of my american colleagues, friends and partners are telling me that every time we talk about this issue.
so, the bottomline is:
pre 16 godina
GSP,
Extract from Encyclopedia Americana: "TESLA, Nicola, American electrical inventor: b. Smiljan, Croatia, on the Austro-Hungarian border, July 9, 1856: d. New York, N. Y., Jan. 7, 1943. His father was a Greek clergyman and orator, his mather, Georgina Mandic, an inventor, as was her father".
Further it was noted that he studied in Gospic, Karlovac, Graz and Prague and started his professional career in Budapest in 1881. He emigrated to the US in 1884 and became a naturalized citizen. For a time he was associated with Thomas A. Edison. His inventions are listed but the light bulb is none of them.
The same encyclopedia lists under Edison's inventions the incandescent electric lamp.
So much for Tesla as a Serb and as an inventor of the light bulb.
pre 16 godina
Joe, you should now better. Greek clergyman – it is true that we share our religion with our Greek brothers, but Nikola’s father Milutin Tesla, was a Serb orthodox priest, most definitely a Serb. He was born in Lika. His family emigrated from Serbia via Herzegovina to Lika in the XVII century. (Lika was a part of the military frontier against the Turks, populated by a Serb frontier-man who defended Austro-Hungarian eastern borders for centuries.
http://www.teslasociety.com/teslavillage.htm
As for Nikola’s scientific work, he was a real genius, far ahead of his time, enormously inventive. Most practically valuable peace of his work to us is complete process of producing, transporting and using of alternate current electricity as we now it today. Generators, transformators, electro motors, these are all his inventions.
http://www.mall-usa.com/BPCS/tesla.html
pre 16 godina
Shame. A long friendship being thrown away for a handful of gold.
And just think, Albanians are dying to get a loyal friend like America.
With friends like these.
pre 16 godina
Roger7, Stevan...and all others...
don´t worry about "Joe", he´s neither an american-hungarian, nor is he knowing enough of the balkans to be a serious contributor here...
just take him as what he actually is: an individual, eager to provoke others...that´s all he can do here...
since he, to this day, never presented one single argument, it was always and only accusations and belittling comments...
what shows what we are dealing with here...
don´t take that too serious!
pre 16 godina
to Joe -
http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/Tesla/TeslaversusEdison.htm
Nice try!
pre 16 godina
return home? would you advice america to tell serbian-americans to do the same?
pre 16 godina
how on earth would america, the west and all those who support independence manage to survive in today's world without having an embassy in belgrade? not to mention all those glorious export items from belgrade. (sarcasm)
pre 16 godina
Jovan,
You could even break your relations with us. Do you think anybody would care?
pre 16 godina
Oh yes Mark. Can you imagine all those half-empty supermarkets because of the absense of Serbian products?
That reminds me that I never encountered even one Serbian product in our stores.
pre 16 godina
GSP,
Extract from Encyclopedia Americana: "TESLA, Nicola, American electrical inventor: b. Smiljan, Croatia, on the Austro-Hungarian border, July 9, 1856: d. New York, N. Y., Jan. 7, 1943. His father was a Greek clergyman and orator, his mather, Georgina Mandic, an inventor, as was her father".
Further it was noted that he studied in Gospic, Karlovac, Graz and Prague and started his professional career in Budapest in 1881. He emigrated to the US in 1884 and became a naturalized citizen. For a time he was associated with Thomas A. Edison. His inventions are listed but the light bulb is none of them.
The same encyclopedia lists under Edison's inventions the incandescent electric lamp.
So much for Tesla as a Serb and as an inventor of the light bulb.
pre 16 godina
the Americans should get a clear signal.
return home and leave only some minor representative there to keep an eye on serbian property...
and improve the connections with those countries wich are respecting the rule of law instead of the rule of the jungle...
but there is still international law... :)
pre 16 godina
It's truly amazing how during Woodrow Wilson's presidency the Serbian flag flew over the White House in Washington, DC & now we're not even being acknowledged. It's either the US way or no way.
You're right Jovan, there IS still International Law!
CCCC
pre 16 godina
I think that would be a "disaster" for the USA.
George W Bush must be having "sleepless night" about Serbia's threat....
pre 16 godina
No, the point is the U.S.'s obsession, meddling and involvement in Serbia. It's not that Serbian and the U.S. have any trade, but that the U.S. harms Serbs and Serbia would rather the U.S. IGNORE Serbia.
In other words Serbia would do better and be healthier if the U.S. was uninvolved.
As for the Serbian-Americans - they all pay taxes and they all do work in the U.S. This of course includes professors, scientists/inventors - many with patents - including on supercomputers.
The Serbs aren't doing HARM to America but being good citizens enriching America. However, America is harming a people (and its children) who've done nothing bad to America.
Actually, if the Serbian Americans left the U.S. and took their talents to Russia, China and other countries, it would be a net loss for the U.S. as Serbs are hard workers and often of high quality.
Even in the past, many Serbs worked the tough mining jobs and they worked also in the steel and automobile industries.
That's why I say the talented and smart Serbs should not go to the U.S. as the U.S. doesn't deserve anything from Serbs. And unfortunately those Serbs will often be harnesses to pay into the U.S. military machine.
pre 16 godina
Mark, Joe, get serious for a minute. While severing of relations with Belgrade would be little more than a passing thought to the average American, it is still a blight on America's already blighted foreign policy record. I seriously hope it doesn't come to that, and making devil-may-care remarks over something this serious misses the point of the article.
And yes Joe, Serbian products are on America's shelves: just check your local liquor store for shljivovitsa - a travesty if it's no longer there! :)
pre 16 godina
Bravo Ida!!
To JOE - every single light bulb you purchase in your store was invented by Nikola Tesla.
CCCC
pre 16 godina
Joe, I sincerely doubt you are American and in fact I suspect you are of the mixed variety of Albanian and Hungarian. However, I think you were probably born in Kosovo thus making you first and foremost a Serbian.
pre 16 godina
my dear albanian friends..
your childish eagerness to display your anti-serbian sentiments here...is perhaps amusing, if it is anything at all.
but at the same time it displays your greatest weakness: your subliminal fear of Serbia and all what is connected to Serbia.
in distinction from your rather weak attempts to show how "strong" and "hard" you are... I am quite moderate in regard to the US.
although they bombed Serbia for 78 days, without a legal ground, without daring to fly below 6000 feet ( "greatest one and only superpower in the world" ) and while using depleted uranium shells.
I know that the average American citizen sides with Serbia and international law.
it´s not only some written nonsense like you use to post here...it´s just a fact.
many of my american colleagues, friends and partners are telling me that every time we talk about this issue.
so, the bottomline is:
pre 16 godina
Sarcasm on side…. True, there aren’t many Serbian products on American shelves and it’s also true that America doesn’t really give a damn about their relationship with Serbia. With this said; as someone who is deeply involved with US foreign policy I can promise you that further alienation of US Politics from its former European allies will eventually reflect negatively on United States. Sooner or later as a world power, America will have to rethink its international policies (or lack thereof) and make some radical changes.
pre 16 godina
Mark, why do you love to twist the words of Serbian posters here.
They mean to say for the American military and other non residential Americans to return home.
How how do you draw a parallel with American Serbs being told by America to return home and American military to return home?
Obviously you don't, but are only being sarcastic or trying to say something which doesn't make any sense.
pre 16 godina
Joe and Mark: Serbians are free to choose their own path. If I were you I'd worry more about establishing some Albanian contributions to American society rather than ridiculing Serbian contributions.
pre 16 godina
Joe said…”You could even break your relations with us. Do you think anybody would care?”
Rude, this comment is just rude. While you claim to live in the US now, you apparently did not learn in your formative years to be respectful and tolerant of others.
Joe says…”So much for Tesla as a Serb and as an inventor of the light bulb.”
In your constant attempts to discredit everything Serbian, you continue to spread misinformation.
That Tesla was a subject of the Austro-Hungarian Empire did not negate the fact that he was genetically a Serb.
In the US, the television station PBS (Public Broadcasting Station) did a piece on Tesla. It included the following…
“Nikola Tesla was born a subject of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1856 in a mountainous area of the Balkan Peninsula known as Lika. His father Milutin, and his mother Djuka, were both Serbian by origin. Tesla's father was a stern but loving Orthodox priest, who was also a gifted writer and poet.”
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/
You should look at you own errors before you chastise others.
The question is Joe, “Do you think anybody would care?”
pre 16 godina
Joe, you should now better. Greek clergyman – it is true that we share our religion with our Greek brothers, but Nikola’s father Milutin Tesla, was a Serb orthodox priest, most definitely a Serb. He was born in Lika. His family emigrated from Serbia via Herzegovina to Lika in the XVII century. (Lika was a part of the military frontier against the Turks, populated by a Serb frontier-man who defended Austro-Hungarian eastern borders for centuries.
http://www.teslasociety.com/teslavillage.htm
As for Nikola’s scientific work, he was a real genius, far ahead of his time, enormously inventive. Most practically valuable peace of his work to us is complete process of producing, transporting and using of alternate current electricity as we now it today. Generators, transformators, electro motors, these are all his inventions.
http://www.mall-usa.com/BPCS/tesla.html
pre 16 godina
Shame. A long friendship being thrown away for a handful of gold.
And just think, Albanians are dying to get a loyal friend like America.
With friends like these.
pre 16 godina
Roger7, Stevan...and all others...
don´t worry about "Joe", he´s neither an american-hungarian, nor is he knowing enough of the balkans to be a serious contributor here...
just take him as what he actually is: an individual, eager to provoke others...that´s all he can do here...
since he, to this day, never presented one single argument, it was always and only accusations and belittling comments...
what shows what we are dealing with here...
don´t take that too serious!
pre 16 godina
to Joe -
http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/Tesla/TeslaversusEdison.htm
Nice try!
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