Serbs protest in Northern Kosovo

Mika what are you talking about "Greater Serbia" was never implemented since Milosovic was not a fan, he was a socialist and opposed the radicals. It is not your lack of basic history that surprises me but the cheek you have to suggest by not accepting an illegal state we are "risking bad relations with Albania". I assure you that you have done all the riskinging and more when you attacked Serbian civilsation and cleansed it of everything Serbian and try to continuesly do so.

Justice doesnt really exist at the moment since Serbs have lost the right to defend themselves in the last 15 years, something enjoyed by very few nations in the world and a grim reality for those wishing to preserve their ancestorial land and the Church's holy land of Metohija.
Please do not speak of justice my independance supporter because you know not of what you speak.

Mika, you're terribly uninformed, and have unfortunately fallen into the trap of "Albanian Coffee Shop" history..

"Do you think about future of your kids and what you leave behind for them exept destruction and enmity with their neighbors?"

Well, turn the mirror around and ponder this...

You should be asking the Albanian politicians why THEY created this situation.

Try to look into the mirror and realize that it's the Albanian politicians who have sacrificed everything for an independence that will either a) Not happen, or b) be a retarded version of independence...
In the meanwhile, all your neighbours don't trust you, your economy is in shambles, and a young generation has grown up empty...

But no worries, YOUR politicians signed on for your own misery, YOUR politicians dug this current hole, YOUR politicians created hatred among neighbours..

Unfortunately, your horse blinders don't allow you to see that it's YOUR politicians that are just as guilty of stupity..

Again, i ask you...How are Albanian politicans any better?

Mika,

You are being ridiculous! Where have you spent last 7 years? In a cave?

You write: "... (Serbian) people that suffered in those wars still go after their politicians that brought to them nothing but suffering and lost wars, destroying everything that previouse generations build with a hard work."

I'm not Serbian, so I don't have to take their side by blood –but I must say you are deaf and blind if you haven't observed changes in Serbian politics and politicians. Give me a name of a governing Serbian politician who was involved in destruction. Then observe the situation among Kosovo Albanians...

So, the ''people'' is happening again, reminding us of lost battles that Serbian government took over the Ex-YU, in foolish attempt of creation of ''Greater Serbia''. I am little bit surprised that same people that suffered in those wars still go after their politicians that brought to them nothing but suffering and lost wars, destroying everything that previouse generations build with a hard work.Can someone of the Serbians please explain to me: Do you think about future of your kids and what you leave behind for them exept destruction and enmity with their neighbors?

Thats a good thing for the Serbs moral. The worst case sonario for the Serbs of Kosovo is the exodus from south to north and north Kosovo becomes part of Serbia. Kosovo may become illegaly independent, but north Kosovo will become part of Serbia.

Mika:
You are right in that this expression of popular support does bear a resemblance to those instigated by Milosevic. Anyway I think this time it may for the best, because although I do not want to give Serbia and inch, I will be happy to be rid of this Serb population that will remain loyal to Belgrade and as such will constitute a continual source of problems and conflict whatever we offer them. Besides the only way Serbia can get that bit is by recognizing the independence of the rest of Kosova so it may be a good deal in the end. And we get to keep the monasteries, ain't that ironic? So that Serb tourism can fuel the development of Kosova's economy. That is if the Serbs even care about them.

To Mika - Just to piggyback off "Unknown Comic" - peaceful protests are allowed & should be allowed anywhere.

With regard to your comment Olf, stop fishing for replies that have no validity or pertain to the article at hand. This comment that made it through the moderators is evidence of your provoking nature based on personal feelings & not facts.

What I don't get is why the Serbs don't get an independent country.

The criteria are, apparently,:

1)the overwhelming majority of some region or other wants to separate their region from the legal entity to which they are attached,

2) the majority of the region seeking independence has suffered somehow at the hand of the majority of the legal entity to which their region is attached, and

3) they have support of some super power.

RS fits that bill as well. I just don't get that Serbs get one treatment while Albanians get another with the same set of facts.

Oh boy, now we get to have a contest on who was wronged more, since that would make them two sets of facts. (It's not at all, since the principles are still the same).

If Albanians get Kosovo independence, so does RS and the other Serb pockets in Kosovo. If Albanians get to keep 200k Serbs from their homes, be prepared to take 200k Albanians living in Serbia.

Come on guys, seriously. Is that the kind of "justice" you want?

Why can't y'all just say, "We done you wrong. We should have let you keep your autonomy. Then we let our guys lose their cool once some bad guys started shooting at us and the police and we went too far. We understand you don't want our help and will leave you alone in peace. Sorry. Here's a pint."

"Gee, and we shouldn't have shot all those policemen or cheered as civilians were killed in the bombing in 99. We're really sorry about the churches and promise to leave y'all alone and let you live in peace. We understand why you don't want our help in rebuilding. All 200k of your boys are welcome to come back home. Have a smoke."

I guess politicians get too much out of playing both sides. You don't have to play the suckers. You could just play nice and give your politicians their walking papers.

Joe:
I don't want to stray too far from the story, and my comment to mika was a way to stop total ignorance from getting out of hand..

And without getting pulled into a rhetorical debate with you (since you're already putting words in my mouth), i'd like to point out some misconceptions firstly, and THEN answer your question...

Firstly.......

"Should they go back to those terrible unhuman conditions of the nineties under Serbian rule"

What are you talking about?
Do you really get sucked into this belief?

I mean really...
Is Serbian discourse with Albanian treatment for the last fifty years any different? How do you think Milosevic got popular in the first place??
Did you ever ask yourself how Serbs were treated in Kosovo? Of course not. Tito and the communists kept telling them to keep their mouths shut, and get out of their.
I'll go one step further in perhaps suggesting that it was Serbian mistreatment and alienation and mistrust from their Albanian neighbours that started the ball rolling..
It's hard to swallow Joe, but it's true.
Mistrust goes both ways.

But i digress...
To answer your question:

It's impossible to give a straight answer. Sorry..

Short sighted US foreign policy doesn't allow either side to go forward..Period.

I would have hoped that NATO and the Western powers offered Serbia the opportunity to make it PAINFULLY clear, that if Kosovo was to stay a part of Serbia, that it's citizens (mainly Albanian), would have uniquivocable rights to the same institutions, make Albanian a second language, and print the language on the back of the cereal boxes and cigarette packs if need be..
Fair representation in parliament, and total transparency in Serbian affairs....

Of course Serbia has been pinned to a corner diplomatically, in where Serbia isn't even ALLOWED to suggest such a thing.
The west plays a "Catch 22" scenario in where Serbia is required to be a positive partner in talks, but not even remotely allowed to even SAY the word Kosovo..
They've been forced to play Diplomatic Water Polo with one arm tied behind it's back..

And the worst part about it, is that NATO helped create a state of absolute polar views, UNMIK safeguards that idea, and any olive branch extensions are almost impossible to reach....

Joe...
A side note please..

If you want to take out measuring sticks of minority treatment... overall, you'll see that the US has treated it's own citizens far worse than Serbia has EVER done..

I know you don't those kind of comparisons, but it's true..

Pijetro,

As a non-Albanian I would like to ask you what better alternative do you suggest to the K-Albanians?

Should they go back to those terrible unhuman conditions of the nineties under Serbian rule, when they were oppressed, terrorised and had no rights?
You would say "This time it will be different. They will have their autonomy".
Oh sure. Everybody knows how quick autonomy can by revoked by Serbia. When a country like Serbia is not trustworthy anymore every ethnic group would act the same way as the K-Albanians.

kosova is a neighbor of serbia, you agree or not. bosnia, croatia.

Look how the Serbs protest, in a civil manner. I didn't hear of slogans of Albanians to burn in hell forever, unlike the Albanians demonstration in Pristina. & the one in 2004.

Mike, you are far too generous to Joe. Joe presents himself as a Hungarian, I believe.

If that is true, Joe's obsession with deriding Serbia at every opportunity is completely out of step with the majority of Hungarians today.

He represents part of a fringe, populated by Nazi sympatisers and imperialist dreamers, who have no connection with modern Hungarian society.

His comment that Serbs cannot be trusted holds no water. If that were true Germany would never be trusted again, ever.

As long as it is peaceful protest is welcomed. A freedom of expresssion but when it is violent it does not one person any good.

K Serbs are protesting but their future is within new Kosova.

We know that most of these banners are written by Belgrade politicians.

K-Serbs welcome to new Independent Kosova. to a brighetr future for all not just for a few.

1999

Joe,

Before I respond you your present comment, let me just take this opportunity to apologize for the last back-and-forth spat we had a few weeks ago. I'm sure you know what I'm referring to. While I still feel justified in critiquing your points, my wording and the manner I wrote it was both uncouth and unprofessional. I'm not asking for us to be best buds, but at the very least we should be able to disagree in a mature manner, and for that, I beg your pardon for my last reply.

Now as for what you said today, I feel that Serbia of 2007 is vastly different than Serbia of 1990. While I doubt it will actually happen, I do tend to think that an internationally mandated Kosovo that is autonomously situated in Serbia will not only be enforced by the UN, but will best something Belgrade in no way wishes to disrupt. I also think that if Kosovo remains - even symbolically - in Serbia, Belgrade will make no more hints at pushing for RS dismemberment. Tadic, Kostunica, et al, are not as crazy as Milosevic, who was more than happy to gamble away Kosovo for the sake of remaining in office.

teni wrote:"I will be happy to be rid of this Serb population that will remain loyal to Belgrade and as such will constitute a continual source of problems and conflict whatever we offer them. ". Well, at least we see your true color,finally. Just let me ask one thing, what happened to all the 'multiethnic culture blaah,blaah,blaah' talks? And another thing, i bet serbs were saying the same thing about albanians during 90's.

doesn't matter your opinion regarding kosovo issue, don't we all think that they could have chosen a little bit better motto for their rally?
Just imagine thousands of people chanting "No to the illegal EU mission circumventing UN resolution, No to independent Kosovo, a huge Yes to Kosovo as part of Serbia and Serbs as full-fledged citizens of Serbia!".
i mean, come on... : )

Mike,

I realize now that my attitude had something to do with triggering our spat and I apologize for it. However we should continue our discours in a mature, civilized manner.

Mike wrote Serbia is vastly different of what it was during the 90ties.

Mike I gathered you are a teacher and I am sure you must e very busy man, because most teachers that I know are. It seems to me you only read some positives about Serbia and ignore the critics labeling perhaps as western propaganda, as many Serbs do.

Please if you have time to read those comments that Jeton replied to Mathew few day ago as I think it pinches some very good points about Serbia, which even Mathew agreed with it.



As for the political atmosphere in Serbia, it would be naive to say that things have changed too drastically and things are all honky dory. For instance, if a politician in the Parliament uses racial slurs ("Gypsy mentality"), and you have a party member which was the winner of last elections saying that "Shiptar-separatists terrorists" should be sent back to Albania, all in plain public view and on record, I am sure any semi-intelligent person would be appalled by all of this. So what happened to those aforementioned "politicians" for being so blunt in letting their radical, inflammatory and just plain degrading opinions be known in what is supposed to be a mini-heaven for multi-ethnicity and respect? Oh, right, not even a slap in the wrist. Do you honestly expect more than two million people to live under these kind of politicians that were democratically elected by Serbs themselves? I am sorry, but I don't buy that Serbia has changed much with its former self, which is regrettable, because it is holding back and poisoning the younger generation from moving forward and becoming a powerhouse of the Balkans.


If Serbia REALLY cared for the people living in Kosova/o, then it would've done things a bit differently than the approaches it has done till now. Leaving the past as the past, what it could do in the better part of this decade would've been the following;

1) Apologize what the government has done to Albanians during the 98-99 war - this would've gone a LONG way.
2) Change the constitution - make Serbian and Albanian official languages of Serbia.
3) Change the flag to reflect the multi-ethnicity of the country
4) Pay for the damages done to the property in Kosova/o
5) Not tolerate inflammatory and racist comments of politicians - come on now, this shouldn't even be pointed out
6) Give Kosova/o the same level of autonomy like that of a state within a (con)federation/union - think of Belgium in between the Flanders and Walloons or Republic of Srpska (well, Kosova/o wouldn't be called "Republika e Shqiptarëve" - translation; "Republic of Albanians" -- I am hoping you see where I am getting with this in conjunction with "Republika Srpska" and Bosnia).

The above is no an exhaustive list by any stretch of the imagination, but it would've been a great starting point for Serbia.


It is worth noting that I am not saying that that is what I would outright and readily accept - independence is a much better option for us K. Albanians (what ethnic group wouldn't want to be free?), but the above would give us a BIG run for our money in coming up with a good argument in support for our aspirations for independence from Serbia, taking into considerations as to what the Serb government was giving in and that they wanted to do to make things right.


Just like you dear Matthew, I sincerely wish that our subtle differences would not overshadow on what we have so much in common. I look forward to the day were all is just a past in the history books where the younger generations looks at with mild disgust of all irrationality and non-nonsensical chain of events. But until we make peace and part ways in order to heal what we've been through, then I am afraid that that bright aforementioned future looks bleaker than ever.
(Jetoni, US, 23 November 2007 04:44)

So, the ''people'' is happening again, reminding us of lost battles that Serbian government took over the Ex-YU, in foolish attempt of creation of ''Greater Serbia''. I am little bit surprised that same people that suffered in those wars still go after their politicians that brought to them nothing but suffering and lost wars, destroying everything that previouse generations build with a hard work.Can someone of the Serbians please explain to me: Do you think about future of your kids and what you leave behind for them exept destruction and enmity with their neighbors?

Mika:
You are right in that this expression of popular support does bear a resemblance to those instigated by Milosevic. Anyway I think this time it may for the best, because although I do not want to give Serbia and inch, I will be happy to be rid of this Serb population that will remain loyal to Belgrade and as such will constitute a continual source of problems and conflict whatever we offer them. Besides the only way Serbia can get that bit is by recognizing the independence of the rest of Kosova so it may be a good deal in the end. And we get to keep the monasteries, ain't that ironic? So that Serb tourism can fuel the development of Kosova's economy. That is if the Serbs even care about them.

Pijetro,

As a non-Albanian I would like to ask you what better alternative do you suggest to the K-Albanians?

Should they go back to those terrible unhuman conditions of the nineties under Serbian rule, when they were oppressed, terrorised and had no rights?
You would say "This time it will be different. They will have their autonomy".
Oh sure. Everybody knows how quick autonomy can by revoked by Serbia. When a country like Serbia is not trustworthy anymore every ethnic group would act the same way as the K-Albanians.

kosova is a neighbor of serbia, you agree or not. bosnia, croatia.

K Serbs are protesting but their future is within new Kosova.

We know that most of these banners are written by Belgrade politicians.

K-Serbs welcome to new Independent Kosova. to a brighetr future for all not just for a few.

1999

Mika what are you talking about "Greater Serbia" was never implemented since Milosovic was not a fan, he was a socialist and opposed the radicals. It is not your lack of basic history that surprises me but the cheek you have to suggest by not accepting an illegal state we are "risking bad relations with Albania". I assure you that you have done all the riskinging and more when you attacked Serbian civilsation and cleansed it of everything Serbian and try to continuesly do so.

Justice doesnt really exist at the moment since Serbs have lost the right to defend themselves in the last 15 years, something enjoyed by very few nations in the world and a grim reality for those wishing to preserve their ancestorial land and the Church's holy land of Metohija.
Please do not speak of justice my independance supporter because you know not of what you speak.

Mika, you're terribly uninformed, and have unfortunately fallen into the trap of "Albanian Coffee Shop" history..

"Do you think about future of your kids and what you leave behind for them exept destruction and enmity with their neighbors?"

Well, turn the mirror around and ponder this...

You should be asking the Albanian politicians why THEY created this situation.

Try to look into the mirror and realize that it's the Albanian politicians who have sacrificed everything for an independence that will either a) Not happen, or b) be a retarded version of independence...
In the meanwhile, all your neighbours don't trust you, your economy is in shambles, and a young generation has grown up empty...

But no worries, YOUR politicians signed on for your own misery, YOUR politicians dug this current hole, YOUR politicians created hatred among neighbours..

Unfortunately, your horse blinders don't allow you to see that it's YOUR politicians that are just as guilty of stupity..

Again, i ask you...How are Albanian politicans any better?

Mika,

You are being ridiculous! Where have you spent last 7 years? In a cave?

You write: "... (Serbian) people that suffered in those wars still go after their politicians that brought to them nothing but suffering and lost wars, destroying everything that previouse generations build with a hard work."

I'm not Serbian, so I don't have to take their side by blood –but I must say you are deaf and blind if you haven't observed changes in Serbian politics and politicians. Give me a name of a governing Serbian politician who was involved in destruction. Then observe the situation among Kosovo Albanians...

As long as it is peaceful protest is welcomed. A freedom of expresssion but when it is violent it does not one person any good.

What I don't get is why the Serbs don't get an independent country.

The criteria are, apparently,:

1)the overwhelming majority of some region or other wants to separate their region from the legal entity to which they are attached,

2) the majority of the region seeking independence has suffered somehow at the hand of the majority of the legal entity to which their region is attached, and

3) they have support of some super power.

RS fits that bill as well. I just don't get that Serbs get one treatment while Albanians get another with the same set of facts.

Oh boy, now we get to have a contest on who was wronged more, since that would make them two sets of facts. (It's not at all, since the principles are still the same).

If Albanians get Kosovo independence, so does RS and the other Serb pockets in Kosovo. If Albanians get to keep 200k Serbs from their homes, be prepared to take 200k Albanians living in Serbia.

Come on guys, seriously. Is that the kind of "justice" you want?

Why can't y'all just say, "We done you wrong. We should have let you keep your autonomy. Then we let our guys lose their cool once some bad guys started shooting at us and the police and we went too far. We understand you don't want our help and will leave you alone in peace. Sorry. Here's a pint."

"Gee, and we shouldn't have shot all those policemen or cheered as civilians were killed in the bombing in 99. We're really sorry about the churches and promise to leave y'all alone and let you live in peace. We understand why you don't want our help in rebuilding. All 200k of your boys are welcome to come back home. Have a smoke."

I guess politicians get too much out of playing both sides. You don't have to play the suckers. You could just play nice and give your politicians their walking papers.

Mike, you are far too generous to Joe. Joe presents himself as a Hungarian, I believe.

If that is true, Joe's obsession with deriding Serbia at every opportunity is completely out of step with the majority of Hungarians today.

He represents part of a fringe, populated by Nazi sympatisers and imperialist dreamers, who have no connection with modern Hungarian society.

His comment that Serbs cannot be trusted holds no water. If that were true Germany would never be trusted again, ever.

Thats a good thing for the Serbs moral. The worst case sonario for the Serbs of Kosovo is the exodus from south to north and north Kosovo becomes part of Serbia. Kosovo may become illegaly independent, but north Kosovo will become part of Serbia.

To Mika - Just to piggyback off "Unknown Comic" - peaceful protests are allowed & should be allowed anywhere.

With regard to your comment Olf, stop fishing for replies that have no validity or pertain to the article at hand. This comment that made it through the moderators is evidence of your provoking nature based on personal feelings & not facts.

Joe,

Before I respond you your present comment, let me just take this opportunity to apologize for the last back-and-forth spat we had a few weeks ago. I'm sure you know what I'm referring to. While I still feel justified in critiquing your points, my wording and the manner I wrote it was both uncouth and unprofessional. I'm not asking for us to be best buds, but at the very least we should be able to disagree in a mature manner, and for that, I beg your pardon for my last reply.

Now as for what you said today, I feel that Serbia of 2007 is vastly different than Serbia of 1990. While I doubt it will actually happen, I do tend to think that an internationally mandated Kosovo that is autonomously situated in Serbia will not only be enforced by the UN, but will best something Belgrade in no way wishes to disrupt. I also think that if Kosovo remains - even symbolically - in Serbia, Belgrade will make no more hints at pushing for RS dismemberment. Tadic, Kostunica, et al, are not as crazy as Milosevic, who was more than happy to gamble away Kosovo for the sake of remaining in office.

Look how the Serbs protest, in a civil manner. I didn't hear of slogans of Albanians to burn in hell forever, unlike the Albanians demonstration in Pristina. & the one in 2004.

teni wrote:"I will be happy to be rid of this Serb population that will remain loyal to Belgrade and as such will constitute a continual source of problems and conflict whatever we offer them. ". Well, at least we see your true color,finally. Just let me ask one thing, what happened to all the 'multiethnic culture blaah,blaah,blaah' talks? And another thing, i bet serbs were saying the same thing about albanians during 90's.

doesn't matter your opinion regarding kosovo issue, don't we all think that they could have chosen a little bit better motto for their rally?
Just imagine thousands of people chanting "No to the illegal EU mission circumventing UN resolution, No to independent Kosovo, a huge Yes to Kosovo as part of Serbia and Serbs as full-fledged citizens of Serbia!".
i mean, come on... : )

Mike,

I realize now that my attitude had something to do with triggering our spat and I apologize for it. However we should continue our discours in a mature, civilized manner.

Joe:
I don't want to stray too far from the story, and my comment to mika was a way to stop total ignorance from getting out of hand..

And without getting pulled into a rhetorical debate with you (since you're already putting words in my mouth), i'd like to point out some misconceptions firstly, and THEN answer your question...

Firstly.......

"Should they go back to those terrible unhuman conditions of the nineties under Serbian rule"

What are you talking about?
Do you really get sucked into this belief?

I mean really...
Is Serbian discourse with Albanian treatment for the last fifty years any different? How do you think Milosevic got popular in the first place??
Did you ever ask yourself how Serbs were treated in Kosovo? Of course not. Tito and the communists kept telling them to keep their mouths shut, and get out of their.
I'll go one step further in perhaps suggesting that it was Serbian mistreatment and alienation and mistrust from their Albanian neighbours that started the ball rolling..
It's hard to swallow Joe, but it's true.
Mistrust goes both ways.

But i digress...
To answer your question:

It's impossible to give a straight answer. Sorry..

Short sighted US foreign policy doesn't allow either side to go forward..Period.

I would have hoped that NATO and the Western powers offered Serbia the opportunity to make it PAINFULLY clear, that if Kosovo was to stay a part of Serbia, that it's citizens (mainly Albanian), would have uniquivocable rights to the same institutions, make Albanian a second language, and print the language on the back of the cereal boxes and cigarette packs if need be..
Fair representation in parliament, and total transparency in Serbian affairs....

Of course Serbia has been pinned to a corner diplomatically, in where Serbia isn't even ALLOWED to suggest such a thing.
The west plays a "Catch 22" scenario in where Serbia is required to be a positive partner in talks, but not even remotely allowed to even SAY the word Kosovo..
They've been forced to play Diplomatic Water Polo with one arm tied behind it's back..

And the worst part about it, is that NATO helped create a state of absolute polar views, UNMIK safeguards that idea, and any olive branch extensions are almost impossible to reach....

Joe...
A side note please..

If you want to take out measuring sticks of minority treatment... overall, you'll see that the US has treated it's own citizens far worse than Serbia has EVER done..

I know you don't those kind of comparisons, but it's true..

Mike wrote Serbia is vastly different of what it was during the 90ties.

Mike I gathered you are a teacher and I am sure you must e very busy man, because most teachers that I know are. It seems to me you only read some positives about Serbia and ignore the critics labeling perhaps as western propaganda, as many Serbs do.

Please if you have time to read those comments that Jeton replied to Mathew few day ago as I think it pinches some very good points about Serbia, which even Mathew agreed with it.



As for the political atmosphere in Serbia, it would be naive to say that things have changed too drastically and things are all honky dory. For instance, if a politician in the Parliament uses racial slurs ("Gypsy mentality"), and you have a party member which was the winner of last elections saying that "Shiptar-separatists terrorists" should be sent back to Albania, all in plain public view and on record, I am sure any semi-intelligent person would be appalled by all of this. So what happened to those aforementioned "politicians" for being so blunt in letting their radical, inflammatory and just plain degrading opinions be known in what is supposed to be a mini-heaven for multi-ethnicity and respect? Oh, right, not even a slap in the wrist. Do you honestly expect more than two million people to live under these kind of politicians that were democratically elected by Serbs themselves? I am sorry, but I don't buy that Serbia has changed much with its former self, which is regrettable, because it is holding back and poisoning the younger generation from moving forward and becoming a powerhouse of the Balkans.


If Serbia REALLY cared for the people living in Kosova/o, then it would've done things a bit differently than the approaches it has done till now. Leaving the past as the past, what it could do in the better part of this decade would've been the following;

1) Apologize what the government has done to Albanians during the 98-99 war - this would've gone a LONG way.
2) Change the constitution - make Serbian and Albanian official languages of Serbia.
3) Change the flag to reflect the multi-ethnicity of the country
4) Pay for the damages done to the property in Kosova/o
5) Not tolerate inflammatory and racist comments of politicians - come on now, this shouldn't even be pointed out
6) Give Kosova/o the same level of autonomy like that of a state within a (con)federation/union - think of Belgium in between the Flanders and Walloons or Republic of Srpska (well, Kosova/o wouldn't be called "Republika e Shqiptarëve" - translation; "Republic of Albanians" -- I am hoping you see where I am getting with this in conjunction with "Republika Srpska" and Bosnia).

The above is no an exhaustive list by any stretch of the imagination, but it would've been a great starting point for Serbia.


It is worth noting that I am not saying that that is what I would outright and readily accept - independence is a much better option for us K. Albanians (what ethnic group wouldn't want to be free?), but the above would give us a BIG run for our money in coming up with a good argument in support for our aspirations for independence from Serbia, taking into considerations as to what the Serb government was giving in and that they wanted to do to make things right.


Just like you dear Matthew, I sincerely wish that our subtle differences would not overshadow on what we have so much in common. I look forward to the day were all is just a past in the history books where the younger generations looks at with mild disgust of all irrationality and non-nonsensical chain of events. But until we make peace and part ways in order to heal what we've been through, then I am afraid that that bright aforementioned future looks bleaker than ever.
(Jetoni, US, 23 November 2007 04:44)