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Thursday, 13.12.2007.

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EP rapporteur predicts two new countries in early 2008

Jelko Kacin predicts the creation of two new states during Slovenia’s EU presidency: Kosovo and Palestine.

Izvor: FoNet

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Joe

pre 16 godina

Roger7,

Yougoslavia (minus Serbia) at the end functioned like a colony of Serbia. I had Sloven and Chroatian friends, who used to complain about it bitterly.
Yes Germany helped them become independent. So what?
It is nice to know that they did something good in that area. Vielen Dank Deutschland!

Roger7

pre 16 godina

Interesting piece and newly published.

Could Slovenia’s Jelko Kacin be advocating in support of Germany and what it started in 1991...the dissolution of the former Yugoslavia.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4556.2818.0.0

lazer, nyc usa

pre 16 godina

Jovan, I lived in Kosova/o first 23 years of my life, I know it really well.
Its the people from outside kosova/o that stirred all the trouble.
Likes like Milosevic, Kostunica etc.
We know the whole story.
History should teach us something. If we are smart we will learn if not we wont.
You can say anything yoou want, but Liga of Prizren was created so the fight was against the Turks.
But in life, big fish will eat the little fish, so that what happened with kosova/o then and now Serbia is being overwhelmed by EU and US, not to forget the rest of the world.
As far as China, one point. Albania was the one that sponsored China to a UN membership.
Hope they wont forget the favor.

Jovan

pre 16 godina

"n the past, before Milosevic and all other Serbian nationalists, Albanians and Serbs in Kosova/o did live side by side, with respect for each other.
The problem is that chauvinism got involved and if someone committed a crime it was seen as a nationalistic provocation. "

lazer, I think the problems started when the K-albanians outnumbered the Serbs in the province, or if we take a look further in the past...it started with those "prizren-league"-fanatics...

Serbs and Albanians lived side by side without problems all along until some Albanians claimed serbian territory to be theirs...
sad but true!

teni

pre 16 godina

Cvele: You are mistaken if you think that we care if Transdniestria or Abkhazia are recognized by Serbia and Russia. No one else will anyway, but the fact that you want to take out your "inat" at losing Kosova on Georgia and Moldova makes me think of an Albanian saying that roughly translates as "For the inat of my mother-in-law I slept with my neighbor."

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

Bmrusila,
I have also wondered many times why Serbia doesn't do this. It should be a clear case in ANY international court.

The only reason I can se is that Serbia doesn't want to offend the criminal parts of other countries that did this, IMO a very wrong move.

Even if I am not a supporter of Milosevic he was on the right track when issuing warrant orders for the Nato countries leaders that gave their blessings to the terror bombings of Serbia.

Unfortunately the "nationalistic" president Kostunica (as some Albanians say) revoked all arrest orders when he became president

lids

pre 16 godina

So Slovenia is crying a river too.
Blame game has to start with Serbia and will end with Serbia.
With new Serbian politician hardly anyone can play games.

smile

pre 16 godina

i have a prediction too: kosovo will become gaza, meanwhile serbia and israel will continue to take care of their national interests.

Canadian

pre 16 godina

Not likely in both cases! Not going to happen for as long as Israel and Serbia exist in the world. The Slovenians would do well not to make such predictions, it makes them look very silly. There are other ways of getting attention in the world.

KS

pre 16 godina

Great news. Princip all those regions become independent when Presheva (valley) & Medvegja, Vojvodina, Sanxhak, all become international recognized states.

Cvele

pre 16 godina

A slovene predicted something. I have another prediction. Russia and Serbia will recognise RS, and Georgias and Moldovas break away regions. CCCC

lazer, nyc usa

pre 16 godina

I am sure you know that it is coming. Kosova Independence.
I have a suggestion, you should change your stance and work with us so we can achieve a friendly relationship, together.
In the past, before Milosevic and all other Serbian nationalists, Albanians and Serbs in Kosova/o did live side by side, with respect for each other.
The problem is that chauvinism got involved and if someone committed a crime it was seen as a nationalistic provocation.
Same thing in USA, if you commit a crime against a different race its a hate crime. It should be just a crime. So, lets come to a resolution, after all the huffing and puffing, after dust settles. We change our politicians and get intelectualls to run our countries.
Wht do you think?

mika

pre 16 godina

Now it's time for justice to take place:Palestine and Kosova to became 2 new states, which will fulfill the justice and improve people thoughts about justice, that is slow but reacheble.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

Why stop at 2 ?

I am sure he could have continued with South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Pridnestrovie, Western Sahara, Flanders, Wallonia, Republika Srpska, Kurdistan, Basque Republic, etc etc....

"It presents to the whole family of man the question whether a constitutional republic or democracy -- a Government of the people, by the same people -- can or cannot maintain its territorial integrity against its own domestic foes. It presents the question whether discontented individuals, too few in numbers to control administration, according to organic law, in any case, can always, upon the pretenses made in this case, or on any other pretenses, or arbitrarily without any pretense, break up their Government and thus practically put an end to free government upon the earth. It forces us to ask: "Is there, in all republics, this inherent and fatal weakness?" "Must a government, of necessity, be too strong for the liberties of its own people, or too weak to maintain its own existence? "
Abraham Lincoln, Special Session Message, 1861.

Oh what a tangled web we weave in this lawless future that will proceed......

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Slovenia begun to play a role of doctors giving such diagnosis of neurosis and neurotic state. Perhaps this diagnose refers more to EU since they are in real mess by searching for impossible. Wherever EU turns its head the all roads lead to UNSC as the only legal institution that may provide legal actions. Everything else is illegal. Perhaps the EU policy might be described as schizofrenic with an acute delusional state of mind.

It is high time that Serbia sue NATO countries involved in illegal bombing. That would maybe make them think next time when they try to do something out of UNSC approval.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Slovenia begun to play a role of doctors giving such diagnosis of neurosis and neurotic state. Perhaps this diagnose refers more to EU since they are in real mess by searching for impossible. Wherever EU turns its head the all roads lead to UNSC as the only legal institution that may provide legal actions. Everything else is illegal. Perhaps the EU policy might be described as schizofrenic with an acute delusional state of mind.

It is high time that Serbia sue NATO countries involved in illegal bombing. That would maybe make them think next time when they try to do something out of UNSC approval.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

Why stop at 2 ?

I am sure he could have continued with South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Pridnestrovie, Western Sahara, Flanders, Wallonia, Republika Srpska, Kurdistan, Basque Republic, etc etc....

"It presents to the whole family of man the question whether a constitutional republic or democracy -- a Government of the people, by the same people -- can or cannot maintain its territorial integrity against its own domestic foes. It presents the question whether discontented individuals, too few in numbers to control administration, according to organic law, in any case, can always, upon the pretenses made in this case, or on any other pretenses, or arbitrarily without any pretense, break up their Government and thus practically put an end to free government upon the earth. It forces us to ask: "Is there, in all republics, this inherent and fatal weakness?" "Must a government, of necessity, be too strong for the liberties of its own people, or too weak to maintain its own existence? "
Abraham Lincoln, Special Session Message, 1861.

Oh what a tangled web we weave in this lawless future that will proceed......

Canadian

pre 16 godina

Not likely in both cases! Not going to happen for as long as Israel and Serbia exist in the world. The Slovenians would do well not to make such predictions, it makes them look very silly. There are other ways of getting attention in the world.

smile

pre 16 godina

i have a prediction too: kosovo will become gaza, meanwhile serbia and israel will continue to take care of their national interests.

Jovan

pre 16 godina

"n the past, before Milosevic and all other Serbian nationalists, Albanians and Serbs in Kosova/o did live side by side, with respect for each other.
The problem is that chauvinism got involved and if someone committed a crime it was seen as a nationalistic provocation. "

lazer, I think the problems started when the K-albanians outnumbered the Serbs in the province, or if we take a look further in the past...it started with those "prizren-league"-fanatics...

Serbs and Albanians lived side by side without problems all along until some Albanians claimed serbian territory to be theirs...
sad but true!

Cvele

pre 16 godina

A slovene predicted something. I have another prediction. Russia and Serbia will recognise RS, and Georgias and Moldovas break away regions. CCCC

lids

pre 16 godina

So Slovenia is crying a river too.
Blame game has to start with Serbia and will end with Serbia.
With new Serbian politician hardly anyone can play games.

KS

pre 16 godina

Great news. Princip all those regions become independent when Presheva (valley) & Medvegja, Vojvodina, Sanxhak, all become international recognized states.

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

Bmrusila,
I have also wondered many times why Serbia doesn't do this. It should be a clear case in ANY international court.

The only reason I can se is that Serbia doesn't want to offend the criminal parts of other countries that did this, IMO a very wrong move.

Even if I am not a supporter of Milosevic he was on the right track when issuing warrant orders for the Nato countries leaders that gave their blessings to the terror bombings of Serbia.

Unfortunately the "nationalistic" president Kostunica (as some Albanians say) revoked all arrest orders when he became president

teni

pre 16 godina

Cvele: You are mistaken if you think that we care if Transdniestria or Abkhazia are recognized by Serbia and Russia. No one else will anyway, but the fact that you want to take out your "inat" at losing Kosova on Georgia and Moldova makes me think of an Albanian saying that roughly translates as "For the inat of my mother-in-law I slept with my neighbor."

Roger7

pre 16 godina

Interesting piece and newly published.

Could Slovenia’s Jelko Kacin be advocating in support of Germany and what it started in 1991...the dissolution of the former Yugoslavia.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4556.2818.0.0

lazer, nyc usa

pre 16 godina

Jovan, I lived in Kosova/o first 23 years of my life, I know it really well.
Its the people from outside kosova/o that stirred all the trouble.
Likes like Milosevic, Kostunica etc.
We know the whole story.
History should teach us something. If we are smart we will learn if not we wont.
You can say anything yoou want, but Liga of Prizren was created so the fight was against the Turks.
But in life, big fish will eat the little fish, so that what happened with kosova/o then and now Serbia is being overwhelmed by EU and US, not to forget the rest of the world.
As far as China, one point. Albania was the one that sponsored China to a UN membership.
Hope they wont forget the favor.

mika

pre 16 godina

Now it's time for justice to take place:Palestine and Kosova to became 2 new states, which will fulfill the justice and improve people thoughts about justice, that is slow but reacheble.

lazer, nyc usa

pre 16 godina

I am sure you know that it is coming. Kosova Independence.
I have a suggestion, you should change your stance and work with us so we can achieve a friendly relationship, together.
In the past, before Milosevic and all other Serbian nationalists, Albanians and Serbs in Kosova/o did live side by side, with respect for each other.
The problem is that chauvinism got involved and if someone committed a crime it was seen as a nationalistic provocation.
Same thing in USA, if you commit a crime against a different race its a hate crime. It should be just a crime. So, lets come to a resolution, after all the huffing and puffing, after dust settles. We change our politicians and get intelectualls to run our countries.
Wht do you think?

Joe

pre 16 godina

Roger7,

Yougoslavia (minus Serbia) at the end functioned like a colony of Serbia. I had Sloven and Chroatian friends, who used to complain about it bitterly.
Yes Germany helped them become independent. So what?
It is nice to know that they did something good in that area. Vielen Dank Deutschland!

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

Slovenia begun to play a role of doctors giving such diagnosis of neurosis and neurotic state. Perhaps this diagnose refers more to EU since they are in real mess by searching for impossible. Wherever EU turns its head the all roads lead to UNSC as the only legal institution that may provide legal actions. Everything else is illegal. Perhaps the EU policy might be described as schizofrenic with an acute delusional state of mind.

It is high time that Serbia sue NATO countries involved in illegal bombing. That would maybe make them think next time when they try to do something out of UNSC approval.

KS

pre 16 godina

Great news. Princip all those regions become independent when Presheva (valley) & Medvegja, Vojvodina, Sanxhak, all become international recognized states.

mika

pre 16 godina

Now it's time for justice to take place:Palestine and Kosova to became 2 new states, which will fulfill the justice and improve people thoughts about justice, that is slow but reacheble.

lazer, nyc usa

pre 16 godina

I am sure you know that it is coming. Kosova Independence.
I have a suggestion, you should change your stance and work with us so we can achieve a friendly relationship, together.
In the past, before Milosevic and all other Serbian nationalists, Albanians and Serbs in Kosova/o did live side by side, with respect for each other.
The problem is that chauvinism got involved and if someone committed a crime it was seen as a nationalistic provocation.
Same thing in USA, if you commit a crime against a different race its a hate crime. It should be just a crime. So, lets come to a resolution, after all the huffing and puffing, after dust settles. We change our politicians and get intelectualls to run our countries.
Wht do you think?

teni

pre 16 godina

Cvele: You are mistaken if you think that we care if Transdniestria or Abkhazia are recognized by Serbia and Russia. No one else will anyway, but the fact that you want to take out your "inat" at losing Kosova on Georgia and Moldova makes me think of an Albanian saying that roughly translates as "For the inat of my mother-in-law I slept with my neighbor."

lazer, nyc usa

pre 16 godina

Jovan, I lived in Kosova/o first 23 years of my life, I know it really well.
Its the people from outside kosova/o that stirred all the trouble.
Likes like Milosevic, Kostunica etc.
We know the whole story.
History should teach us something. If we are smart we will learn if not we wont.
You can say anything yoou want, but Liga of Prizren was created so the fight was against the Turks.
But in life, big fish will eat the little fish, so that what happened with kosova/o then and now Serbia is being overwhelmed by EU and US, not to forget the rest of the world.
As far as China, one point. Albania was the one that sponsored China to a UN membership.
Hope they wont forget the favor.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

Why stop at 2 ?

I am sure he could have continued with South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Pridnestrovie, Western Sahara, Flanders, Wallonia, Republika Srpska, Kurdistan, Basque Republic, etc etc....

"It presents to the whole family of man the question whether a constitutional republic or democracy -- a Government of the people, by the same people -- can or cannot maintain its territorial integrity against its own domestic foes. It presents the question whether discontented individuals, too few in numbers to control administration, according to organic law, in any case, can always, upon the pretenses made in this case, or on any other pretenses, or arbitrarily without any pretense, break up their Government and thus practically put an end to free government upon the earth. It forces us to ask: "Is there, in all republics, this inherent and fatal weakness?" "Must a government, of necessity, be too strong for the liberties of its own people, or too weak to maintain its own existence? "
Abraham Lincoln, Special Session Message, 1861.

Oh what a tangled web we weave in this lawless future that will proceed......

Cvele

pre 16 godina

A slovene predicted something. I have another prediction. Russia and Serbia will recognise RS, and Georgias and Moldovas break away regions. CCCC

Canadian

pre 16 godina

Not likely in both cases! Not going to happen for as long as Israel and Serbia exist in the world. The Slovenians would do well not to make such predictions, it makes them look very silly. There are other ways of getting attention in the world.

lids

pre 16 godina

So Slovenia is crying a river too.
Blame game has to start with Serbia and will end with Serbia.
With new Serbian politician hardly anyone can play games.

Srboslav

pre 16 godina

Bmrusila,
I have also wondered many times why Serbia doesn't do this. It should be a clear case in ANY international court.

The only reason I can se is that Serbia doesn't want to offend the criminal parts of other countries that did this, IMO a very wrong move.

Even if I am not a supporter of Milosevic he was on the right track when issuing warrant orders for the Nato countries leaders that gave their blessings to the terror bombings of Serbia.

Unfortunately the "nationalistic" president Kostunica (as some Albanians say) revoked all arrest orders when he became president

smile

pre 16 godina

i have a prediction too: kosovo will become gaza, meanwhile serbia and israel will continue to take care of their national interests.

Jovan

pre 16 godina

"n the past, before Milosevic and all other Serbian nationalists, Albanians and Serbs in Kosova/o did live side by side, with respect for each other.
The problem is that chauvinism got involved and if someone committed a crime it was seen as a nationalistic provocation. "

lazer, I think the problems started when the K-albanians outnumbered the Serbs in the province, or if we take a look further in the past...it started with those "prizren-league"-fanatics...

Serbs and Albanians lived side by side without problems all along until some Albanians claimed serbian territory to be theirs...
sad but true!

Roger7

pre 16 godina

Interesting piece and newly published.

Could Slovenia’s Jelko Kacin be advocating in support of Germany and what it started in 1991...the dissolution of the former Yugoslavia.

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=4556.2818.0.0

Joe

pre 16 godina

Roger7,

Yougoslavia (minus Serbia) at the end functioned like a colony of Serbia. I had Sloven and Chroatian friends, who used to complain about it bitterly.
Yes Germany helped them become independent. So what?
It is nice to know that they did something good in that area. Vielen Dank Deutschland!