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Kosovo Serbs denied basic human rights

Serbian officials say that the human rights record in the country is worst in Kosovo.

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Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

I do not understand how such interpretations from my previous statement can be made to prove a point that is practically baseless.
What I said is that Serbs 'think' that their rights are being infringed because they have gotten used to exercising virtual rule over a majority. Seeing that such perks do not fly anymore, they feel bitter and resent the fact that democracy has forced them to live as their Albanian neighbors.
When I said that the days of Serbian exclusive control over public institutions and security (police and defense), I meant to reinforce the fact that wrongs are now being reversed and democracy is being implemented.
If lack of Serbian control over public institutions and police translates to lack of freedom, then it is true but their grievances are irrational.
They did boycott democratic polls did they not? Furthermore, they do live among a 90% majority do they not?
When was the last time you saw an Albanian in a Serbian government?

Obilic

pre 16 godina

BTW, during 14th century all of albania was part of the Serbian Kingdom.
(Obilic, 10 December 2007 22:14)

Obilic,
we happen to live in 21st century. What would you answer to a Turk claiming that over 400 years Serbia was a part of the Turkish Empire?
(genc, 10 December 2007 23:22)

My point exactly, you claim that Kosovo was albanian land hundreds of years ago, well at one time all of albania was part of Srbija...so what im saying is that in recent history, Kosovo was and is a part of Srbija and thats where it should stay. Or should the Serbs try and regain albania?? Face it, Kosovo je Srbija!

genc

pre 16 godina

BTW, during 14th century all of albania was part of the Serbian Kingdom.
(Obilic, 10 December 2007 22:14)

Obilic,
we happen to live in 21st century. What would you answer to a Turk claiming that over 400 years Serbia was a part of the Turkish Empire?

Obilic

pre 16 godina

Serbs should be treated like first class citizens. They are the rightful people in Kosovo and are living in Srbija. If Nato cant do this, then maybe the Serbian government can give them a hand. BTW, during 14th century all of albania was part of the Serbian Kingdom.

smile

pre 16 godina

village bey is the fastest learner here. of course he doesn't care in the least bit about what happens to serbs, but he knows what he's supposed to say. i say well done bey.
i too think that kos albanians should be given a broad autonomy.

Jovan z

pre 16 godina

Well Ptoleme and Frukyy's comments are typical of Balkan people.They did it to us so we are just returning the favor.Peggy you are correct Albanians don't play fair.And there is still recent wounds that have not healed but there is no excuse
Albanians never had things as bad as Serbs do.Sure there was a problem like any restive minority would have with civil rights.But they also had education in Albanian ,hospitals,social servives, and government positions.I know all of Yugoslavia under our own brand of communism had it much better.We had to give a part of our pay every month to subsidize Kosovo-Metohija
and Albanians were free to move and live with basic human rights.For those to posters above to read a story on a Serbian site about human rights that they are not respecting under international administration
is despicable.Village-bey I respect you for standing up to the reality of what is going on in Kosovo-Metohija.
Your comment " Nothing can devalue our own fight for basic human rights more than our indifference to our fellow human beings or worse those once victims turning perpetrators".Shows that both that not everyone is of one mind on this emontional issue thank you that says a lot.

peggy

pre 16 godina

Ptoleme, so the Serbs are getting what they deserve according to you. In your imagination the Serbs trampled all over Albanians and now they can be reduced to sub human.

That is only in your imagination. The Albanians enjoyed a great autonomy which wasn't good enough, so now they want to take it all. Now that's more the truth than what you say, but even if you are right, you still have no right to treat another human being that way.

With your kind of attitude nobody is safe anywhere Albanians reside. Any form of disagreement or perceived injustice you will reduce those people to less than human.
Everyone here reading the comments can plainly see that Albanians don't play fair. Anyone except the Albanians of course.

Let's see if this gets published as when Albanians sneer at the Serbs those comments are published, but any form of critisism or negative opinion directed the other way doesn't.

Is telling it like it is a crime now?

frukyy

pre 16 godina

They have the right to vote but refuse to. They have more seats in parliament then they represent the population. Do not pay any gas, electricity, taxes and other urban fees. 24/7 under heavy protection. Highly paid by Belgrade.
The ones that have blood on their hands of course they feel “culpable”.
Nevertheless there are still necessary improvements concerning the right of expression and movement in Kosova however I think Serbia is not in position to give lesson to anyone about human rights. Serbia besides violating the basic human right of minorities treats incorrectly patients with mental conditions and orphans.

village-bey

pre 16 godina

Human Right Minority Service and SNV are making valid points that need to be addressed urgently. Nothing can devalue our own fight for basic human rights more than our indifference to our fellow human beings or worse those once victims turning perpetrators. We need to engage en masse with the public and each and each everyone to lead by example. Nothing can justify this condition any longer.

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

The organization pointed out that it was "absurd that Serbs, as a constituent people, are experiencing in one part of the state unprecedented terror on the part of ethnic Albanians."

What do these people expect? Just because Serbs are a constituent people according to a constitution that was virtually ignored by ethnic Albanians (actually Serbia chose to exclude Albanians) and only supported by a 51.46% majority in a 53.66% turnout, they seek to exercise once more autocratic rule over these people. The days when Serbs comprise an exclusivity over public institutions and security forces are over.
Maybe they should have thought twice when they were trampling over the rights of Albanians.

peggy

pre 16 godina

Ptoleme, so the Serbs are getting what they deserve according to you. In your imagination the Serbs trampled all over Albanians and now they can be reduced to sub human.

That is only in your imagination. The Albanians enjoyed a great autonomy which wasn't good enough, so now they want to take it all. Now that's more the truth than what you say, but even if you are right, you still have no right to treat another human being that way.

With your kind of attitude nobody is safe anywhere Albanians reside. Any form of disagreement or perceived injustice you will reduce those people to less than human.
Everyone here reading the comments can plainly see that Albanians don't play fair. Anyone except the Albanians of course.

Let's see if this gets published as when Albanians sneer at the Serbs those comments are published, but any form of critisism or negative opinion directed the other way doesn't.

Is telling it like it is a crime now?

Obilic

pre 16 godina

Serbs should be treated like first class citizens. They are the rightful people in Kosovo and are living in Srbija. If Nato cant do this, then maybe the Serbian government can give them a hand. BTW, during 14th century all of albania was part of the Serbian Kingdom.

Jovan z

pre 16 godina

Well Ptoleme and Frukyy's comments are typical of Balkan people.They did it to us so we are just returning the favor.Peggy you are correct Albanians don't play fair.And there is still recent wounds that have not healed but there is no excuse
Albanians never had things as bad as Serbs do.Sure there was a problem like any restive minority would have with civil rights.But they also had education in Albanian ,hospitals,social servives, and government positions.I know all of Yugoslavia under our own brand of communism had it much better.We had to give a part of our pay every month to subsidize Kosovo-Metohija
and Albanians were free to move and live with basic human rights.For those to posters above to read a story on a Serbian site about human rights that they are not respecting under international administration
is despicable.Village-bey I respect you for standing up to the reality of what is going on in Kosovo-Metohija.
Your comment " Nothing can devalue our own fight for basic human rights more than our indifference to our fellow human beings or worse those once victims turning perpetrators".Shows that both that not everyone is of one mind on this emontional issue thank you that says a lot.

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

The organization pointed out that it was "absurd that Serbs, as a constituent people, are experiencing in one part of the state unprecedented terror on the part of ethnic Albanians."

What do these people expect? Just because Serbs are a constituent people according to a constitution that was virtually ignored by ethnic Albanians (actually Serbia chose to exclude Albanians) and only supported by a 51.46% majority in a 53.66% turnout, they seek to exercise once more autocratic rule over these people. The days when Serbs comprise an exclusivity over public institutions and security forces are over.
Maybe they should have thought twice when they were trampling over the rights of Albanians.

smile

pre 16 godina

village bey is the fastest learner here. of course he doesn't care in the least bit about what happens to serbs, but he knows what he's supposed to say. i say well done bey.
i too think that kos albanians should be given a broad autonomy.

genc

pre 16 godina

BTW, during 14th century all of albania was part of the Serbian Kingdom.
(Obilic, 10 December 2007 22:14)

Obilic,
we happen to live in 21st century. What would you answer to a Turk claiming that over 400 years Serbia was a part of the Turkish Empire?

village-bey

pre 16 godina

Human Right Minority Service and SNV are making valid points that need to be addressed urgently. Nothing can devalue our own fight for basic human rights more than our indifference to our fellow human beings or worse those once victims turning perpetrators. We need to engage en masse with the public and each and each everyone to lead by example. Nothing can justify this condition any longer.

frukyy

pre 16 godina

They have the right to vote but refuse to. They have more seats in parliament then they represent the population. Do not pay any gas, electricity, taxes and other urban fees. 24/7 under heavy protection. Highly paid by Belgrade.
The ones that have blood on their hands of course they feel “culpable”.
Nevertheless there are still necessary improvements concerning the right of expression and movement in Kosova however I think Serbia is not in position to give lesson to anyone about human rights. Serbia besides violating the basic human right of minorities treats incorrectly patients with mental conditions and orphans.

Obilic

pre 16 godina

BTW, during 14th century all of albania was part of the Serbian Kingdom.
(Obilic, 10 December 2007 22:14)

Obilic,
we happen to live in 21st century. What would you answer to a Turk claiming that over 400 years Serbia was a part of the Turkish Empire?
(genc, 10 December 2007 23:22)

My point exactly, you claim that Kosovo was albanian land hundreds of years ago, well at one time all of albania was part of Srbija...so what im saying is that in recent history, Kosovo was and is a part of Srbija and thats where it should stay. Or should the Serbs try and regain albania?? Face it, Kosovo je Srbija!

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

I do not understand how such interpretations from my previous statement can be made to prove a point that is practically baseless.
What I said is that Serbs 'think' that their rights are being infringed because they have gotten used to exercising virtual rule over a majority. Seeing that such perks do not fly anymore, they feel bitter and resent the fact that democracy has forced them to live as their Albanian neighbors.
When I said that the days of Serbian exclusive control over public institutions and security (police and defense), I meant to reinforce the fact that wrongs are now being reversed and democracy is being implemented.
If lack of Serbian control over public institutions and police translates to lack of freedom, then it is true but their grievances are irrational.
They did boycott democratic polls did they not? Furthermore, they do live among a 90% majority do they not?
When was the last time you saw an Albanian in a Serbian government?

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

The organization pointed out that it was "absurd that Serbs, as a constituent people, are experiencing in one part of the state unprecedented terror on the part of ethnic Albanians."

What do these people expect? Just because Serbs are a constituent people according to a constitution that was virtually ignored by ethnic Albanians (actually Serbia chose to exclude Albanians) and only supported by a 51.46% majority in a 53.66% turnout, they seek to exercise once more autocratic rule over these people. The days when Serbs comprise an exclusivity over public institutions and security forces are over.
Maybe they should have thought twice when they were trampling over the rights of Albanians.

frukyy

pre 16 godina

They have the right to vote but refuse to. They have more seats in parliament then they represent the population. Do not pay any gas, electricity, taxes and other urban fees. 24/7 under heavy protection. Highly paid by Belgrade.
The ones that have blood on their hands of course they feel “culpable”.
Nevertheless there are still necessary improvements concerning the right of expression and movement in Kosova however I think Serbia is not in position to give lesson to anyone about human rights. Serbia besides violating the basic human right of minorities treats incorrectly patients with mental conditions and orphans.

genc

pre 16 godina

BTW, during 14th century all of albania was part of the Serbian Kingdom.
(Obilic, 10 December 2007 22:14)

Obilic,
we happen to live in 21st century. What would you answer to a Turk claiming that over 400 years Serbia was a part of the Turkish Empire?

village-bey

pre 16 godina

Human Right Minority Service and SNV are making valid points that need to be addressed urgently. Nothing can devalue our own fight for basic human rights more than our indifference to our fellow human beings or worse those once victims turning perpetrators. We need to engage en masse with the public and each and each everyone to lead by example. Nothing can justify this condition any longer.

peggy

pre 16 godina

Ptoleme, so the Serbs are getting what they deserve according to you. In your imagination the Serbs trampled all over Albanians and now they can be reduced to sub human.

That is only in your imagination. The Albanians enjoyed a great autonomy which wasn't good enough, so now they want to take it all. Now that's more the truth than what you say, but even if you are right, you still have no right to treat another human being that way.

With your kind of attitude nobody is safe anywhere Albanians reside. Any form of disagreement or perceived injustice you will reduce those people to less than human.
Everyone here reading the comments can plainly see that Albanians don't play fair. Anyone except the Albanians of course.

Let's see if this gets published as when Albanians sneer at the Serbs those comments are published, but any form of critisism or negative opinion directed the other way doesn't.

Is telling it like it is a crime now?

Obilic

pre 16 godina

Serbs should be treated like first class citizens. They are the rightful people in Kosovo and are living in Srbija. If Nato cant do this, then maybe the Serbian government can give them a hand. BTW, during 14th century all of albania was part of the Serbian Kingdom.

Jovan z

pre 16 godina

Well Ptoleme and Frukyy's comments are typical of Balkan people.They did it to us so we are just returning the favor.Peggy you are correct Albanians don't play fair.And there is still recent wounds that have not healed but there is no excuse
Albanians never had things as bad as Serbs do.Sure there was a problem like any restive minority would have with civil rights.But they also had education in Albanian ,hospitals,social servives, and government positions.I know all of Yugoslavia under our own brand of communism had it much better.We had to give a part of our pay every month to subsidize Kosovo-Metohija
and Albanians were free to move and live with basic human rights.For those to posters above to read a story on a Serbian site about human rights that they are not respecting under international administration
is despicable.Village-bey I respect you for standing up to the reality of what is going on in Kosovo-Metohija.
Your comment " Nothing can devalue our own fight for basic human rights more than our indifference to our fellow human beings or worse those once victims turning perpetrators".Shows that both that not everyone is of one mind on this emontional issue thank you that says a lot.

smile

pre 16 godina

village bey is the fastest learner here. of course he doesn't care in the least bit about what happens to serbs, but he knows what he's supposed to say. i say well done bey.
i too think that kos albanians should be given a broad autonomy.

Obilic

pre 16 godina

BTW, during 14th century all of albania was part of the Serbian Kingdom.
(Obilic, 10 December 2007 22:14)

Obilic,
we happen to live in 21st century. What would you answer to a Turk claiming that over 400 years Serbia was a part of the Turkish Empire?
(genc, 10 December 2007 23:22)

My point exactly, you claim that Kosovo was albanian land hundreds of years ago, well at one time all of albania was part of Srbija...so what im saying is that in recent history, Kosovo was and is a part of Srbija and thats where it should stay. Or should the Serbs try and regain albania?? Face it, Kosovo je Srbija!

Ptoleme

pre 16 godina

I do not understand how such interpretations from my previous statement can be made to prove a point that is practically baseless.
What I said is that Serbs 'think' that their rights are being infringed because they have gotten used to exercising virtual rule over a majority. Seeing that such perks do not fly anymore, they feel bitter and resent the fact that democracy has forced them to live as their Albanian neighbors.
When I said that the days of Serbian exclusive control over public institutions and security (police and defense), I meant to reinforce the fact that wrongs are now being reversed and democracy is being implemented.
If lack of Serbian control over public institutions and police translates to lack of freedom, then it is true but their grievances are irrational.
They did boycott democratic polls did they not? Furthermore, they do live among a 90% majority do they not?
When was the last time you saw an Albanian in a Serbian government?