"EC, EU support Serbia's European path"

Mr Djelic I think that Serbia should not join the EU. This is not any more about the Kosovo even though their EU stand opened my eyes. This is all about principles and Serbia should be principle when rejecting EU. The another thing is that EU is an artifical and above all one freaking creation. Joining the EU and as its part Serbia will lose its independence and right on making certain decisions. We would maybe have some financial benefits (taking the EU fund money for development)but would have to give up a lot in return. I hope there will be referendum so that people can decide. I wish us to stay neutral and cooperate with East and West, especially East. Mr Djelic, just think when EU begin with its desintegration(maybe never happen, but maybe is gonna happen). I certainly hope that Serbia is going to stay neutral (without joining any organization since we dearly paid for joining different orgainizations and federations) as much as possible.

Why should we join the EU, when its leadership bombed us and would bomb us again, if we had regime in power which was more nationalistic concerning the economy? The EU is good if one wants to be a colony, but that should not be our goal. Our goal should be to go to our cultural brother, Russia.

Djelic - ask them directly when the EU says they want Serbia in the EU do they mean All of Sovereign Serbia or Dismembered and Partitioned Serbia at the behest of the "few" EU who are US poodles ? Which is it to be ?

Then and only then when they are very clear on the response will they have Serbia's response with regards a EU future !

Peter Sudyka,

I am very well aware that Russia is far away and that policy making is not love between the nations but pure interests. In this case as I said East, East does not include only Russia. However, all I meant it was in terms of trading and not any organization joining (again only maybe trading organizations). I did not clearly exclude the West. All that Serbia needs at this moment is working on its development. I also explained my doubts regarding EU. Well, my opinion is that Serbia would be blackmailed continoulsy by the EU each time when tries to oppose on the certain regulations set by the EU and which maybe won't be suitable to Serbia. Take Kosovo issue as an example. There are many countries in EU that are not so willing to grant Kosovo independence but they are not enough ready to oppose it since those countries are much dependent on EU's mighty countries such as UK,Germany, France and these mentioned countries have very, I mean very close ties with USA.

The another thing is that EU cooperates to much with USA (which is ok to some extend). What I do not appriciate when it comes to EU is that EU act as a blindely USA's obedient.

Next that it comes to my mind is doubt of EU survival. The USA to much interfere in the internal EU afafirs (both as in the entire EU family and in each EU's country individually). You may call me paranoic but I have no trust in USA. In my opinion EU would be perfect without external interference. Thus I do not trust in EU survival and if EU desintegration ever happen Serbia would pay dearly again. Serbia does not need any unions, any federations, any military organizations, anything of these sorts any longer. Just neutral stand and fair cooperation with East and West. If one of these coutries express little respect or try to diminish Serbia in any way the cooperation should be halted untill the attutude of the certain countires is changed towards Serbia.

East or West, make up your minds people!

Wishthinking or delusion?

bmrusila

I understand your doubts with regards to the EU, but Serbia should not make the mistake of joining any particular side, in this case East or West. Serbia should have an open market and trade with whoever the please, the biggest mistake would be to have politics interfere with trade, as it will hamper economic development and the everyday lives of the Serbian people.

History has taught us enough times that isolation only leads to a country's demise, the educated will pack their bags and go West, the country will fall into recession, as reliance on trade with the East will not maintain Serbia on European standards. Have a look at Albania for an example, only now are they slowly starting to develop from the years of isolation, and it will be a long time before they even reach some of their Balkan neighbors, let alone the EU standards!

I too do not trust the USA for anything, I hate the way they meddle in our affairs and expect our help every time they dream up a new war, but to maintain free and open trade with the USA is indeed a great thing, and should not be taken for granted (if only this, nothing else is really necessary, nor should it have anything to do with the EU).

I do not think that the EU will disintegrate though, why should it? The US might interfere, but it does not have any power to split it.

"Serbia does not need any unions, any federations, any military organizations, anything of these sorts any longer. Just neutral stand and fair cooperation with East and West."

Fair enough, I agree that no country needs the EU, but on the other hand, looking at the economic performance of former communist countries since they have joined the EU shows that while not mandatory, it is highly recommended for any country in Europe, I think.

All I have to say is Serbia has had its fair share of unions. Serbia is Serbia and will remain as such.

We will remain in our interest's and thats that. If the EU decides to support us more heavily so be it a friendship in progress but it will have to show the first move. The same applies to everyone who wishes to join Serbia's good graces.

People, I think Serbs, don’t you see that Europe (EU indeed) desperately needs Serbia. Joining to EU Serbian people will be thrown into capitalistic market where it will be used as source of cheap labour only. Small number of people will feel benefits including some politicians. Just watch who is for EU integration with no regards to price Serbia has to pay (Kosovo indeed)! The ones that will benefit do not care about Serbian workers.
Again I’ll remind all Serbians that Serbia has unique geo-political position and without Serbia in EU, Europe is cut out from east (waterways and roads). Yes we want to be part of EU but never against our brothers Russians and without full territorial integrity recognition.
Message to Europian quasi intellectuals will be:
We do not want to be part of EU to be respected, we want you to respect us before we become part of EU.

ToniUK

What do you have against Serbia joining the EU?

bmrusila

"We would maybe have some financial benefits (taking the EU fund money for development)but would have to give up a lot in return."

What would Serbia give up in joining the EU bmrusila? There are adjustments and reforms that have to take place, but the EU will only benefit Serbia. Serbs should not be so anti-European, a strong economy can only benefit the people and the gains will far outnumber anything Serbia would have to give up. Russia is too far away from Serbia to help in developing it, besides, Russia is to Serbia like US is to Kosovo, they are just pawns in their political gains. The EU is something that Serbia could truly benefit from, I think.

This is not fair to other Balkan nations who have worked really hard to achieve standards in order to have an invitation from EU. Serbia is achieving it by blackmailing the international community with violence and war. After all these games are over, Serbia will be left with nothing to play others with. Then, they will see the real deal, how it is done, and the consequences of a single threat to others. Thank God Kosova will not have to deal with Serbia anymore about these issues.

Sure Serbia can sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement but it will not join the EU without coming to terms with the reality in Kosovo. Only when Serbia recognises Kosovo as a state can resolution 1244 be discharged. Until that happens none of them two will be joining the EU. Brussels will/should not make the same mistake as with Cyprus.

I don't think so. I believe the correct response would be "not in my watch." WAR CRIMINALS are in SERBIA.

This is not fair to other Balkan nations who have worked really hard to achieve standards in order to have an invitation from EU. Serbia is achieving it by blackmailing the international community with violence and war. After all these games are over, Serbia will be left with nothing to play others with. Then, they will see the real deal, how it is done, and the consequences of a single threat to others. Thank God Kosova will not have to deal with Serbia anymore about these issues.

Sure Serbia can sign the Stabilization and Association Agreement but it will not join the EU without coming to terms with the reality in Kosovo. Only when Serbia recognises Kosovo as a state can resolution 1244 be discharged. Until that happens none of them two will be joining the EU. Brussels will/should not make the same mistake as with Cyprus.

Wishthinking or delusion?

East or West, make up your minds people!

ToniUK

What do you have against Serbia joining the EU?

bmrusila

"We would maybe have some financial benefits (taking the EU fund money for development)but would have to give up a lot in return."

What would Serbia give up in joining the EU bmrusila? There are adjustments and reforms that have to take place, but the EU will only benefit Serbia. Serbs should not be so anti-European, a strong economy can only benefit the people and the gains will far outnumber anything Serbia would have to give up. Russia is too far away from Serbia to help in developing it, besides, Russia is to Serbia like US is to Kosovo, they are just pawns in their political gains. The EU is something that Serbia could truly benefit from, I think.

I don't think so. I believe the correct response would be "not in my watch." WAR CRIMINALS are in SERBIA.

Mr Djelic I think that Serbia should not join the EU. This is not any more about the Kosovo even though their EU stand opened my eyes. This is all about principles and Serbia should be principle when rejecting EU. The another thing is that EU is an artifical and above all one freaking creation. Joining the EU and as its part Serbia will lose its independence and right on making certain decisions. We would maybe have some financial benefits (taking the EU fund money for development)but would have to give up a lot in return. I hope there will be referendum so that people can decide. I wish us to stay neutral and cooperate with East and West, especially East. Mr Djelic, just think when EU begin with its desintegration(maybe never happen, but maybe is gonna happen). I certainly hope that Serbia is going to stay neutral (without joining any organization since we dearly paid for joining different orgainizations and federations) as much as possible.

Why should we join the EU, when its leadership bombed us and would bomb us again, if we had regime in power which was more nationalistic concerning the economy? The EU is good if one wants to be a colony, but that should not be our goal. Our goal should be to go to our cultural brother, Russia.

Djelic - ask them directly when the EU says they want Serbia in the EU do they mean All of Sovereign Serbia or Dismembered and Partitioned Serbia at the behest of the "few" EU who are US poodles ? Which is it to be ?

Then and only then when they are very clear on the response will they have Serbia's response with regards a EU future !

Peter Sudyka,

I am very well aware that Russia is far away and that policy making is not love between the nations but pure interests. In this case as I said East, East does not include only Russia. However, all I meant it was in terms of trading and not any organization joining (again only maybe trading organizations). I did not clearly exclude the West. All that Serbia needs at this moment is working on its development. I also explained my doubts regarding EU. Well, my opinion is that Serbia would be blackmailed continoulsy by the EU each time when tries to oppose on the certain regulations set by the EU and which maybe won't be suitable to Serbia. Take Kosovo issue as an example. There are many countries in EU that are not so willing to grant Kosovo independence but they are not enough ready to oppose it since those countries are much dependent on EU's mighty countries such as UK,Germany, France and these mentioned countries have very, I mean very close ties with USA.

The another thing is that EU cooperates to much with USA (which is ok to some extend). What I do not appriciate when it comes to EU is that EU act as a blindely USA's obedient.

Next that it comes to my mind is doubt of EU survival. The USA to much interfere in the internal EU afafirs (both as in the entire EU family and in each EU's country individually). You may call me paranoic but I have no trust in USA. In my opinion EU would be perfect without external interference. Thus I do not trust in EU survival and if EU desintegration ever happen Serbia would pay dearly again. Serbia does not need any unions, any federations, any military organizations, anything of these sorts any longer. Just neutral stand and fair cooperation with East and West. If one of these coutries express little respect or try to diminish Serbia in any way the cooperation should be halted untill the attutude of the certain countires is changed towards Serbia.

bmrusila

I understand your doubts with regards to the EU, but Serbia should not make the mistake of joining any particular side, in this case East or West. Serbia should have an open market and trade with whoever the please, the biggest mistake would be to have politics interfere with trade, as it will hamper economic development and the everyday lives of the Serbian people.

History has taught us enough times that isolation only leads to a country's demise, the educated will pack their bags and go West, the country will fall into recession, as reliance on trade with the East will not maintain Serbia on European standards. Have a look at Albania for an example, only now are they slowly starting to develop from the years of isolation, and it will be a long time before they even reach some of their Balkan neighbors, let alone the EU standards!

I too do not trust the USA for anything, I hate the way they meddle in our affairs and expect our help every time they dream up a new war, but to maintain free and open trade with the USA is indeed a great thing, and should not be taken for granted (if only this, nothing else is really necessary, nor should it have anything to do with the EU).

I do not think that the EU will disintegrate though, why should it? The US might interfere, but it does not have any power to split it.

"Serbia does not need any unions, any federations, any military organizations, anything of these sorts any longer. Just neutral stand and fair cooperation with East and West."

Fair enough, I agree that no country needs the EU, but on the other hand, looking at the economic performance of former communist countries since they have joined the EU shows that while not mandatory, it is highly recommended for any country in Europe, I think.

All I have to say is Serbia has had its fair share of unions. Serbia is Serbia and will remain as such.

We will remain in our interest's and thats that. If the EU decides to support us more heavily so be it a friendship in progress but it will have to show the first move. The same applies to everyone who wishes to join Serbia's good graces.

People, I think Serbs, don’t you see that Europe (EU indeed) desperately needs Serbia. Joining to EU Serbian people will be thrown into capitalistic market where it will be used as source of cheap labour only. Small number of people will feel benefits including some politicians. Just watch who is for EU integration with no regards to price Serbia has to pay (Kosovo indeed)! The ones that will benefit do not care about Serbian workers.
Again I’ll remind all Serbians that Serbia has unique geo-political position and without Serbia in EU, Europe is cut out from east (waterways and roads). Yes we want to be part of EU but never against our brothers Russians and without full territorial integrity recognition.
Message to Europian quasi intellectuals will be:
We do not want to be part of EU to be respected, we want you to respect us before we become part of EU.