Ex-VJ colonel: KLA deported Albanians

This statement should come as no surprise because it is obvious that this mass deportation could not have been carried out purely by the VJ.
The KLA clearly told these people what the US told them, run to Albania and in a months time you can return, it was all done to justify the bombing and further demonize the Serbs.

Nothing new here. The Muslims did this in Bosnia countless times to rally support and demonize Serbs.

That is the only truth and labeling Serbian Army for deportation of Albanians is more than malicious. There are thousands of Serbs that can confirm that as well since they were eyewitnesses. I don't know why there is no will by prosecutor to investigate this "deportation"closely and/or at least take an objective stand on this issue. KLA was responsible for deportation and that is well known "public secret".

(Mospyt.

Racak was fabricated story too. The killed ones were actually UCK guys. Albanians had good advisers to fabricate this event by unclothing the uniform from the soldiers and dressing them up into civilian clothes. Ask Helena Ranta, a Finnish pathologist that took over the case in order to examine "objectively". Perhaps you may ask why did she feel so relieved after the testemony before Milosevic trial and why didn't she testify by having an eye contact with Milosevic? After the testemony she even thanked judge Richard May for frequent interraption of Milosevic.

You won't get an apology out of that Professional Army Officer, and neither from Serbia. It seems absolutley logical and with merit that the KLA DID instruct their population to leave.

Albanians are suggesting that during the war, while the army was engaged in fighting, patrolling, eating, sleeping, destroying terrorists, and shooting down USAF F-117s, that they also had time and resourses to expell 800,000 poor defenseless Albanians under the noses of NATO surveillance. Can you say Wag the Dog? I found it amusing every time a camera was around, someone was crying hysterically. Reminded me of Clinton laughing one minute and then crying when the cameras were on him during the funeral of his so called "buddy."
The Secretary of Commerce Brown died when his plane crashed in Croatia. Show me some hands that remember that timeless image of Clinton. Laughable!

Back to the topic. If I was a civilian and a war broke out in my backyard, I'd pack the kids up and head out. It's called taking responsibility and getting my family out of harms way. Serbia has the greatest refugee population in Europe, cleansed by Croatia, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians! That's a FACT!

The testimony of German reporter Franz Josef Hutsch, who was imbedded with the KLA before and during the war, says he did see the KLA set this up and do this:

“…It was very clear that at that time the KLA had a very great deal of interest in calling on people to flee their villages. So they actually purposefully created fear by telling people that the villages would in the future be attacked here, Straza, Ivaja, and Picevac up in the north. There the people living in the villages were asked to leave the villages, go into the woodland areas and were actually prevented from returning to their villages again.”
“…The KLA commanders and in the brigades were called upon to set up a list of priorities for the evacuations of the towns and villages. To indicate the villages, to pass on this information, a messenger service of the KLA command was set up. They had contact with satellite telephones with safe links to Albania. These officers had identification papers with them whereby they were able to take over the command of certain areas if necessary. There was a communications system which was supported electronically, on the one hand, but it was also screened, and there was direct communication with these selected officers on the one hand and the individual regional commanders on the other. And they could give direct orders as to which villages should be evacuated where. So the population was then asked, for example, to leave the village in the direction of Albania or Macedonia.”

http://www.un.org/icty/transe54/041012IT.htm

Fred,

Even I can make forensic report in a way that I been told so. However, according some reports the clothes of the murdered people did not have any holes made by bullets. The clothes were no damaged at all, anything that would suggest that they might be civilians. So, someone was without shoes ant that is evidence they were civilians. I will tell you that some of these alleged civilanas were wearing military boots. The other thing is why the bodies were moved from the scene into mosque? Becuase it leaves enough room for manipulation.

all Albanians were moving towards albania and macedonia. two columns that disobeyed nato/kla order and moved north, towards Serbia proper were bombed by NATO. This corroborates Colonel's statement. No columm moving according to NATO's order was bombed.

In 1996, U.S. staged war game in albania, with precisely the same plot.

As of Racak, the most telling is the fact than when ICTY experts returned to the allege d crime scene, they were attacked by "peaceful" Albanians and not able to continue investigation

There are many traces this setup was not able to erase:

-the actual number of found dead, numbers vary

- many were not villagers from
Racak

- dugout fortifications in Racak

- obituaries in albanian press

-Dr Helena Ranta was not competent expert for this kind of investigation, she is forensic dentist

- the reports of ICTY, KLA and international observers does not match in important details. When the official reports from the Serbian sources are added, it is clear to see why and to spot the forgery.

-Albanian extremists were happy with the service provided by American expert for staging of "massacres" and named a street after him - Rruga William Walker.

There is enough hard evidence to call Racak what is was - a hoax, a fabricated reason to attack Serbia. Racak was for United States what Glievitz was for Hitler.

All those who were involved in setting up and executing this set up are guilty of crime against peace and responsible for the death of several thousand people during the war, as well for murder of over 1000 Albanian civilians after the war by KLA.


It makes me sick in my stomack to see that allegedly Serbian news outlet allows extremists to gloat about Racak hoax that is responsible for untold misery that befell Serbs and Albanians alike.

It is comparable to allowing neonazis to glorify Hitler's Gliewitz hoax.

We been saying all along that the deportation of albanians from Kosovo was staged by the kla. Probably instructed by the US & the west. The Bosnian muslims did the same when they bombed a crowded market place of their own people & blamed the the Serbs. But the truth came out & the truth will come out that the real war criminals are the kla and the present political leaders in Pristina. Just like the US general said "we bombed the wrong side".

This man, Stojanovic was in charge of the Serbian forces which committed the Racak massaacre in 1998 in which 34 Albanian civilians were slaughtered. Stojanovic should not be giving evidence to the court, but should be in the dock.

This is utterly disgusting. Did the KLA also perhaps kill and transport over a 1000 Kosovo Albanians to Belgrade's Batajnica & The Danube?

Those with little regard for human life (regardless of ethnicity) can easily fabricate selective claims to their goals, but it absolutely does not wash up to the OVERWHELMING evidence of who the cluprit of thousands of those deaths was.

The massive killings of Kosovo Albanians during the war was not just some mere isolated action of individual soldiers. If that were to be the case, how come we see a SYSTEMATIC campaign of transportation and deceit of thousands of bodies sent back to Serbia?

Who undertook such a massive cover-up? Renegade, individual members of Serbian police and military?

That was a massive, Serbian state-led campaign of murder and deceit.

It is VERY sad that ordinary Serbs are not impressed at all by the evidence of murder committed on their behalf and found in their OWN backyard.

Perhaps this ignorance is the single biggest reason why Serbia since early 90s has embarked in one of the most self-destructive processes a nation has ever seen.

"uk:
“The Muslims did this in Bosnia countless times to rally support and demonize Serbs.’
Vuk and when Muslims couldn’t flee advancing Serbian troops/paramilitary they would be executed, women dehumanized - remember Srebrenica!
“O yeah tell us how 7000 civilians killed themselves “

Even if that were true, which I doubt, the bosnian serb army was controlled by mladic and karadzic and not by serbia. These things have as much to do with serbian-kosavar relations as do the croatian war crimes committed against the bosniaks. Bad analogy, sorry.

Racak was a complete hoax, everyone knows this now. See this link and see just what kind of lies Clinton and Albright are capable of. It makes me sick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3-9tqEBWBM&feature=related

I have been keeping track of Ida's posts and she is living in denial and i cannot beleive that every war crime that took place and is on record she tends to twisted around like it never happened or phantoms did it. Shame on you IDA.

Only one word for this person: Kriminal!

Vuk:
“The Muslims did this in Bosnia countless times to rally support and demonize Serbs.’
Vuk and when Muslims couldn’t flee advancing Serbian troops/paramilitary they would be executed, women dehumanized - remember Srebrenica!
“O yeah tell us how 7000 civilians killed themselves “

When I was in Kosovo-Metohija
in 99 I was aware of some cases where KLA clan leaders organized people to leave in an area that did not at the time see heavy fighting.Lets use logic if the Serbian army was as claimed cleansing albanians why did we not do it in Serbia proper why did we not do it in Belgrade?.In Albanian society clan structure is very dominant so if you have village leaders or Albanian authorities saying leave or else plus NATO bombing as well as a counter-insurgency operation (which by nature is very very difficult) Then you see more of the truth.Also some Albanians fearing KLA violence went north into Serbia lets not forget.NATO played the media very well when they claimed as soon as the bombing started we start ethnic cleansing what a joke.We would move during the day next to a large group of refugees a few thousand yards away to avoid NATO it does not make sense to cleanse refugees as the bombing would have been more intense (at the start after time NATO bombed non military tagets much more openly).The army had very strict rules when dealing with non military persons.

criminals when loose the wars, they always are afraid of their victims. why?
(doni, 8 December 2007 22:22)

How true. Of all those called, only Wesley Clark testified at the ICTY, and that was in closed session, with numerous conditions attached. His appearance was carefully stage managed. No one had the guts to front up and take their chances in open session.

The current US Administration refuses to be a signatory to the International Criminal Court. They lose and/or destroy video and other evidence at an alarming rate. They resist granting access to detainees by the Red Cross and refuse to grant them reasonable access to legal rights.

In reality, it is only the level of sophistication that separates those that bury 100,000 Iraqi soldiers alive with tanks and bomb a sovereign nation non-stop for 78 days, from those that hack people to death with machetes.

They were ordered to leave en-masse by Ceku, Thaci and their KLA. That’s why some posters gloat so much over the injustices befalling the Serbs.

The Kosovo Albanian leaders are acting like irresponsible drunkards that are fast running up a tab with Serbia and the West alike, that generations of Kosovo Albanians will be unable to repay.

Regardless of what happens to the Serbs, the Kosovo Albanian leaders have consigned their people to live in the ‘black hole’ of Europe. Just wait ‘till Europe decides to civilise them and cuts off the illegal activities that fund their woe begotten quasi-state.

criminals when loose the wars, they always are afraid of their victims. why?

Hopefully one day, persons like this one, and many posters in here, will see the light at the end of the tunnel and understand what they have done all these years.

Please stop mis-characterizing the Finnish forensic report on the Racak killings. The report only refrained from using the term "massacre" because as forensic scientists it was outside of their competencies. Massacre was a subjective legal term.

From the report:

Most of the victims wore several warm jackets and pullovers. No ammunition was found in the
pockets. It is likely that no looting of the bodies has occurred, because money (bank notes)
was found on them. The clothing bore no identifying badges or insignia of any military unit. No
indication of removal of badges or insignia was evident. Based on autopsy findings (e.g. bullet
holes, coagulated blood) and photographs of the scenes, it is highly unlikely that clothes could
have been changed or removed. Shoes of some of the victims, however, had been taken off,
possibly before the bodies were carried inside the mosque. Among those autopsied, there
were several elderly men and only one woman. There were no indications of the people being
other than unarmed civilians.

The Racak events have been described as a "massacre". However, such a conclusion does not
fall within the competence of the EU Forensic Team or any other person having participated
solely in the investigation of the bodies. The term "massacre" cannot be based on medicolegal
facts only but is a legal description of the circumstances surrounding the death of persons as
judged from a comprehensive analysis of all available information. Thus, the use of this term is
better suited to be used by organs conducting criminal investigations for the purpose of initiating
legal proceedings. Moreover, medicolegal investigations cannot give a conclusive answer to the
question whether there was a battle or whether the victims died under some other
circumstances. A full criminal investigation combined with the interrogation of witnesses by
appropriate investigative entities could shed more light on the circumstances prior to and at the
time of the death.

Read it for yourself at:

http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/kosovo/Kosovo-Massacres2.htm

This man, Stojanovic was in charge of the Serbian forces which committed the Racak massaacre in 1998 in which 34 Albanian civilians were slaughtered. Stojanovic should not be giving evidence to the court, but should be in the dock.

Only one word for this person: Kriminal!

This is utterly disgusting. Did the KLA also perhaps kill and transport over a 1000 Kosovo Albanians to Belgrade's Batajnica & The Danube?

Those with little regard for human life (regardless of ethnicity) can easily fabricate selective claims to their goals, but it absolutely does not wash up to the OVERWHELMING evidence of who the cluprit of thousands of those deaths was.

The massive killings of Kosovo Albanians during the war was not just some mere isolated action of individual soldiers. If that were to be the case, how come we see a SYSTEMATIC campaign of transportation and deceit of thousands of bodies sent back to Serbia?

Who undertook such a massive cover-up? Renegade, individual members of Serbian police and military?

That was a massive, Serbian state-led campaign of murder and deceit.

It is VERY sad that ordinary Serbs are not impressed at all by the evidence of murder committed on their behalf and found in their OWN backyard.

Perhaps this ignorance is the single biggest reason why Serbia since early 90s has embarked in one of the most self-destructive processes a nation has ever seen.

This statement should come as no surprise because it is obvious that this mass deportation could not have been carried out purely by the VJ.
The KLA clearly told these people what the US told them, run to Albania and in a months time you can return, it was all done to justify the bombing and further demonize the Serbs.

Nothing new here. The Muslims did this in Bosnia countless times to rally support and demonize Serbs.

I have been keeping track of Ida's posts and she is living in denial and i cannot beleive that every war crime that took place and is on record she tends to twisted around like it never happened or phantoms did it. Shame on you IDA.

Vuk:
“The Muslims did this in Bosnia countless times to rally support and demonize Serbs.’
Vuk and when Muslims couldn’t flee advancing Serbian troops/paramilitary they would be executed, women dehumanized - remember Srebrenica!
“O yeah tell us how 7000 civilians killed themselves “

criminals when loose the wars, they always are afraid of their victims. why?

Hopefully one day, persons like this one, and many posters in here, will see the light at the end of the tunnel and understand what they have done all these years.

The testimony of German reporter Franz Josef Hutsch, who was imbedded with the KLA before and during the war, says he did see the KLA set this up and do this:

“…It was very clear that at that time the KLA had a very great deal of interest in calling on people to flee their villages. So they actually purposefully created fear by telling people that the villages would in the future be attacked here, Straza, Ivaja, and Picevac up in the north. There the people living in the villages were asked to leave the villages, go into the woodland areas and were actually prevented from returning to their villages again.”
“…The KLA commanders and in the brigades were called upon to set up a list of priorities for the evacuations of the towns and villages. To indicate the villages, to pass on this information, a messenger service of the KLA command was set up. They had contact with satellite telephones with safe links to Albania. These officers had identification papers with them whereby they were able to take over the command of certain areas if necessary. There was a communications system which was supported electronically, on the one hand, but it was also screened, and there was direct communication with these selected officers on the one hand and the individual regional commanders on the other. And they could give direct orders as to which villages should be evacuated where. So the population was then asked, for example, to leave the village in the direction of Albania or Macedonia.”

http://www.un.org/icty/transe54/041012IT.htm

Please stop mis-characterizing the Finnish forensic report on the Racak killings. The report only refrained from using the term "massacre" because as forensic scientists it was outside of their competencies. Massacre was a subjective legal term.

From the report:

Most of the victims wore several warm jackets and pullovers. No ammunition was found in the
pockets. It is likely that no looting of the bodies has occurred, because money (bank notes)
was found on them. The clothing bore no identifying badges or insignia of any military unit. No
indication of removal of badges or insignia was evident. Based on autopsy findings (e.g. bullet
holes, coagulated blood) and photographs of the scenes, it is highly unlikely that clothes could
have been changed or removed. Shoes of some of the victims, however, had been taken off,
possibly before the bodies were carried inside the mosque. Among those autopsied, there
were several elderly men and only one woman. There were no indications of the people being
other than unarmed civilians.

The Racak events have been described as a "massacre". However, such a conclusion does not
fall within the competence of the EU Forensic Team or any other person having participated
solely in the investigation of the bodies. The term "massacre" cannot be based on medicolegal
facts only but is a legal description of the circumstances surrounding the death of persons as
judged from a comprehensive analysis of all available information. Thus, the use of this term is
better suited to be used by organs conducting criminal investigations for the purpose of initiating
legal proceedings. Moreover, medicolegal investigations cannot give a conclusive answer to the
question whether there was a battle or whether the victims died under some other
circumstances. A full criminal investigation combined with the interrogation of witnesses by
appropriate investigative entities could shed more light on the circumstances prior to and at the
time of the death.

Read it for yourself at:

http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/kosovo/Kosovo-Massacres2.htm

We been saying all along that the deportation of albanians from Kosovo was staged by the kla. Probably instructed by the US & the west. The Bosnian muslims did the same when they bombed a crowded market place of their own people & blamed the the Serbs. But the truth came out & the truth will come out that the real war criminals are the kla and the present political leaders in Pristina. Just like the US general said "we bombed the wrong side".

You won't get an apology out of that Professional Army Officer, and neither from Serbia. It seems absolutley logical and with merit that the KLA DID instruct their population to leave.

Albanians are suggesting that during the war, while the army was engaged in fighting, patrolling, eating, sleeping, destroying terrorists, and shooting down USAF F-117s, that they also had time and resourses to expell 800,000 poor defenseless Albanians under the noses of NATO surveillance. Can you say Wag the Dog? I found it amusing every time a camera was around, someone was crying hysterically. Reminded me of Clinton laughing one minute and then crying when the cameras were on him during the funeral of his so called "buddy."
The Secretary of Commerce Brown died when his plane crashed in Croatia. Show me some hands that remember that timeless image of Clinton. Laughable!

Back to the topic. If I was a civilian and a war broke out in my backyard, I'd pack the kids up and head out. It's called taking responsibility and getting my family out of harms way. Serbia has the greatest refugee population in Europe, cleansed by Croatia, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians! That's a FACT!

criminals when loose the wars, they always are afraid of their victims. why?
(doni, 8 December 2007 22:22)

How true. Of all those called, only Wesley Clark testified at the ICTY, and that was in closed session, with numerous conditions attached. His appearance was carefully stage managed. No one had the guts to front up and take their chances in open session.

The current US Administration refuses to be a signatory to the International Criminal Court. They lose and/or destroy video and other evidence at an alarming rate. They resist granting access to detainees by the Red Cross and refuse to grant them reasonable access to legal rights.

In reality, it is only the level of sophistication that separates those that bury 100,000 Iraqi soldiers alive with tanks and bomb a sovereign nation non-stop for 78 days, from those that hack people to death with machetes.

They were ordered to leave en-masse by Ceku, Thaci and their KLA. That’s why some posters gloat so much over the injustices befalling the Serbs.

The Kosovo Albanian leaders are acting like irresponsible drunkards that are fast running up a tab with Serbia and the West alike, that generations of Kosovo Albanians will be unable to repay.

Regardless of what happens to the Serbs, the Kosovo Albanian leaders have consigned their people to live in the ‘black hole’ of Europe. Just wait ‘till Europe decides to civilise them and cuts off the illegal activities that fund their woe begotten quasi-state.

That is the only truth and labeling Serbian Army for deportation of Albanians is more than malicious. There are thousands of Serbs that can confirm that as well since they were eyewitnesses. I don't know why there is no will by prosecutor to investigate this "deportation"closely and/or at least take an objective stand on this issue. KLA was responsible for deportation and that is well known "public secret".

(Mospyt.

Racak was fabricated story too. The killed ones were actually UCK guys. Albanians had good advisers to fabricate this event by unclothing the uniform from the soldiers and dressing them up into civilian clothes. Ask Helena Ranta, a Finnish pathologist that took over the case in order to examine "objectively". Perhaps you may ask why did she feel so relieved after the testemony before Milosevic trial and why didn't she testify by having an eye contact with Milosevic? After the testemony she even thanked judge Richard May for frequent interraption of Milosevic.

Fred,

Even I can make forensic report in a way that I been told so. However, according some reports the clothes of the murdered people did not have any holes made by bullets. The clothes were no damaged at all, anything that would suggest that they might be civilians. So, someone was without shoes ant that is evidence they were civilians. I will tell you that some of these alleged civilanas were wearing military boots. The other thing is why the bodies were moved from the scene into mosque? Becuase it leaves enough room for manipulation.

all Albanians were moving towards albania and macedonia. two columns that disobeyed nato/kla order and moved north, towards Serbia proper were bombed by NATO. This corroborates Colonel's statement. No columm moving according to NATO's order was bombed.

In 1996, U.S. staged war game in albania, with precisely the same plot.

As of Racak, the most telling is the fact than when ICTY experts returned to the allege d crime scene, they were attacked by "peaceful" Albanians and not able to continue investigation

There are many traces this setup was not able to erase:

-the actual number of found dead, numbers vary

- many were not villagers from
Racak

- dugout fortifications in Racak

- obituaries in albanian press

-Dr Helena Ranta was not competent expert for this kind of investigation, she is forensic dentist

- the reports of ICTY, KLA and international observers does not match in important details. When the official reports from the Serbian sources are added, it is clear to see why and to spot the forgery.

-Albanian extremists were happy with the service provided by American expert for staging of "massacres" and named a street after him - Rruga William Walker.

There is enough hard evidence to call Racak what is was - a hoax, a fabricated reason to attack Serbia. Racak was for United States what Glievitz was for Hitler.

All those who were involved in setting up and executing this set up are guilty of crime against peace and responsible for the death of several thousand people during the war, as well for murder of over 1000 Albanian civilians after the war by KLA.


It makes me sick in my stomack to see that allegedly Serbian news outlet allows extremists to gloat about Racak hoax that is responsible for untold misery that befell Serbs and Albanians alike.

It is comparable to allowing neonazis to glorify Hitler's Gliewitz hoax.

"uk:
“The Muslims did this in Bosnia countless times to rally support and demonize Serbs.’
Vuk and when Muslims couldn’t flee advancing Serbian troops/paramilitary they would be executed, women dehumanized - remember Srebrenica!
“O yeah tell us how 7000 civilians killed themselves “

Even if that were true, which I doubt, the bosnian serb army was controlled by mladic and karadzic and not by serbia. These things have as much to do with serbian-kosavar relations as do the croatian war crimes committed against the bosniaks. Bad analogy, sorry.

Racak was a complete hoax, everyone knows this now. See this link and see just what kind of lies Clinton and Albright are capable of. It makes me sick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3-9tqEBWBM&feature=related

When I was in Kosovo-Metohija
in 99 I was aware of some cases where KLA clan leaders organized people to leave in an area that did not at the time see heavy fighting.Lets use logic if the Serbian army was as claimed cleansing albanians why did we not do it in Serbia proper why did we not do it in Belgrade?.In Albanian society clan structure is very dominant so if you have village leaders or Albanian authorities saying leave or else plus NATO bombing as well as a counter-insurgency operation (which by nature is very very difficult) Then you see more of the truth.Also some Albanians fearing KLA violence went north into Serbia lets not forget.NATO played the media very well when they claimed as soon as the bombing started we start ethnic cleansing what a joke.We would move during the day next to a large group of refugees a few thousand yards away to avoid NATO it does not make sense to cleanse refugees as the bombing would have been more intense (at the start after time NATO bombed non military tagets much more openly).The army had very strict rules when dealing with non military persons.