"Kosovo to be focus of Slovenian EU presidency"

I think Belgrade should not even bother to send an Ambasador to Slovenia , since they have plans to call back all Ambasadors from Countries , which will recognize Kosova. Slovenia is one of them.
Just an advice , don't bother to appoint an Ambasador to Slovenia.
As far as Mr. Rupel, he will do an excelent jobs as President of EU , during his term in office.

@ princip uk

i am getting sick of your mention of Albanians getting serbian passport. who cares for serb pass, it means nothing. But anyway to make you feel better, i will tell you it is true, but remember what makes an albanian is not a passport piece of paper, but what is in his heart.
so as a conclusion I think is good for albanians to increase their numbers in other countries such as serbia, so they can help get more rights for presevo valley albanians.

Princip, I think the Kosovo Albanians have expected they are in Kosovo and don't need you to keep telling them to expect the state they are in.

When you say "Serbian Albanians", do you mean Albanians in Southern Serbia or Kosovo Albanians, if you mean the K Albanians, then they would find this term offensive. Princip you clearly dislike the K Albanians, so why do you wish to have them in your state, or is it only their land you are interested in.

Maybe if Milosevic hadn't been so heavy handed in the former Yugoslavia, you'd still have a Yugoslav state that would be a member of the EU.

Exactly right! Slovenia has much to offer in this case as it knows firsthand what it means to be under Serbian rule and how wonderful and prosperous is to be free and independent. It is the best example to all the ex-parts of Yugoslavia, with Kosova being one of them, to show what an small but independent nation can achieve if it is free to exercise its will and desires. Kosovans look forward to learn more from Slovenian experience.

Keep on waving at the web Princip.
Do you really think that US&EU would waist so much time and effort if they agreed with Serbia to give Kosova autonomy?
US&EU are to respect the will of the majority in Kosova and to give back the occupied land back to the proper owners.
Pricnip, these years should have served as a learning ground for all those ex-Yugoslavs living abroad and Serbs in Balkans. You should have learned by now that something that does not belong to you will never be yours, even after many centuries of torture, cleansing and terror. K-Albanians were never and will never be afraid to ask what belongs to them, history proves that.
Before you (rightly) say mafiocracy I suggest you involve in a discussion with Serbs in Serbia proper to discuss the very same there.

To B92 why didn’t you publish Slovenian Foreign Minister Rupel full statement?
Here it is what Rupel said, in his own words

"Slovenian Foreign Minister Dimitrij Rupel, whose country assumes the EU presidency on January 1, said Kosovo's path to independence should be "coordinated internationally."
"We need a little more time for that," Rupel told German business daily Handelsblatt, but added: "The Kosovars must definitely not wait another year for independence."
"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071203/wl_nm/serbia_kosovo_mediators_dc_1

I think is good for albanians to increase their numbers in other countries such as serbia, so they can help get more rights for presevo valley albanians.
(doni,

You think this means civilized strategy? Reproduction as a tool in order to gain some aim (this case right on selfdetermiabtion) is nothing more but primitive act that lead to pverty of the nation (this time Albanian nation). I no longer wonder why EU wants Serbia in its family without Kosovo!

"but should rather seek other possibilities.

Precisely for that reason, according to the Slovenian foreign minister, more dialogue was needed, not only with Belgrade and Priština, but within the EU itself, in order to preserve its unity"

- were we not told it was all a Fait accompli the EU was unnamoulsly backing the US folly of throwing out all credibility of UN resolutions that they had formulated, signed and agreed to uphold?

Thaci said "immedialtly" after the 10th December - so we are waiting for the 11th Decemebr - if it comes and goes with no such illegal actions surely the penny must drop to those Serbian Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija that false promises from Uncle sam could never be delievered since it was not theirs to give!

Accept the state your in and start working on the truth and reconcilation to make Serbia a better state for all irrespective of ethnicity! Many hundreds of thousands have expressed this alligence in obtaining the Serbian passport - one cannot deny that Serbian institutions have not hold in the region when many see the Serbian passport as a must have over the Unmikistan passport!

Of course for some commentators come the 11th December they will carry on with a new ever extendable deadline - probably Dec. 20008 - the reality is all this time is being wasted and your in denial of the state your in and for that Economic development is sadly also being denied to those who desperatly need jobs and a future. Of course the leadership who control the only money making ventures in this mafiocracy of an entity are more then happy to allow the Status Quo. They are also more then happy to continue it while pretending Uncle Sam is coordinating a new extendable deadline - while all the time they obtain a greater and greater hold over what little economic activity there is.

11th December is an opportunity many to realise that there never was a genuine promise - it was false and now is the time for reality - accept teh state your in and start working with it in partnership to a European future where artifical boundaries and wall are not created but are removed.

Of course the EU is united - no illegal US folly - instead uphold the UN and Resolution 1244 i.e. Serbia's sovereignity and territorial integrity is upheld and Serbian Albanians need to acept the stat they are in!

Slovak PM warns against unilaterally declared independence for Kosovo
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/04/europe/EU-GEN-EU-Slovakia-Kosovo.php#end_main

Italy's premier urges Kosovo Albanians not to declare independence unilaterally
http://www.pr-inside.com/italy-s-premier-urges-kosovo-albanians-not-r329206.htm

The Slovene's say more talks are required especially for EU unity. The Slovaks say no unilateral recognition
"It's hard for us to imagine that we would recognize a Kosovo that unilaterally declares itself independent,"

Even the Italians are also stating the obvious - what Thaci (Ceku and Kosumi) have said will & can never be - i.e. you can declare what you want but it will be your biggest mistake!

And we were told it was all a fait acompli only Greece and Cyrpus still objected to the US illegal folly!

Come the 11th December there will be;
No Illegal declaration
No Illegal recognition
No Violence - NATO will act!

- let me make another pre-emptive prediction what ever new extendable deadline is set the same will apply!

Oh what a tangled web we weave.......

It is obvious that EU has no mutual standpoint on Kosovo issue. It will take long time before Kosovo become legally independent (if ever gain independence).

Mark Green - Princip is clear in what he means:

"Serbian Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija"

"Maybe if Milosevic hadn't been so heavy handed in the former Yugoslavia, you'd still have a Yugoslav state that would be a member of the EU."

Very big assumption. Slovenia had been planning independence for a few years prior to 1991. Czechoslovakia split up with out any suggestion of "heavy-handedness" by either side there so it is hard to imagine that Yugoslavia would have stayed one country had Milosevic never existed.

Kosovo Albanians were rioting in 1981 when they had as much autonomy they later complained about losing.

Clean Cut - when was Slovenia last under "Serbian rule"?

"when we lived for decades without any support from the government or any other nation during the Serbian propaganda"

When Kosovo was being very heavily financed by Yugoslavia and Serbia. Serbs had a special tax levied on them to send money down to Kosovo for the Albanians.

Serbs money build Pristina University, the hospitals, paved the roads, and everything.

Albanians weren't even paying for their electricity, water, healthcare, etc.

Albanians were given a free ride which is why many from Albania were coming up to Kosovo.

Many of today's "Kosovars" had at least one parent or grandparent come from Albania to live off other Yugoslavians' (but mostly Serbs' funding).

@ida "When Kosovo was being very heavily financed by Yugoslavia and Serbia. Serbs had a special tax levied on them to send money down to Kosovo for the Albanians. "

Why don't you take it up with your government then? It looks like K-Albanian's intention to severe any administrative ties with Serbia, is inline with your complains. You won't have to pay anymore for us. What's the problem then?

Its a bit like saying the Chinese bombed Pearl Harbour.
(Niall O'Doherty, Ireland, 4 December 2007 18:35)

Might I say that an Irishman like yourself is an expert on WWII?

Slovania was under Serbian rule, so please spare us your words.

"Exactly right! Slovenia has much to offer in this case as it knows firsthand what it means to be under Serbian rule - Clean Cut"

FYI, Slovenia was never under Serbian rule, it seceeded from the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia on 26 June 1991.

Its a bit like saying the Chinese bombed Pearl Harbour.

"Slovania was under Serbian rule, so please spare us your words.
(KS, 4 December 2007 19:50)"

Do you mean Slovenia or Slavonia?

Neither were under Serbian rule anyhow.

Princip,UK
Many hundreds of thousands have expressed this alligence in obtaining the Serbian passport - one cannot deny that Serbian institutions have not hold in the region when many see the Serbian passport as a must have over the Unmikistan passport!
(Princip, UK, 4 December 2007 11:48)
Princip,
I don't mind you repeating yourself over and over, because I know and you know that you have lost your arguments hence these repeated comments every day.
I asked you few days ago and I am asking you again. Actually any Serb where ever they are, be that in London, Belgrade or Edinburgh like you Princip, do you or any one of you have Serbian Passport?

If you do then please let us know, on your Serbian Passport, does it say under Nationality as Serbian Nationality?

Let me guess! There is no Serbian Passport.

Now that we are clear about this, could you tell me how on earth do Albanians have Serbian Passport whereas you, Serbians, don't have one.

Nice try Princip but aren't you tired of weaving your tangled web of propaganda?

P.S If one Serb can show me a proof that Serbs have their passport written Serbian under Nationality then I will make a public apology to all Serbs where ever they are.

Come on, anyone?

Mark Green,

"if you mean the K Albanians, then they would find this term offensive"

- as has already been pointed out to you by PJD (thanks) I was very clear about what I meant. Just as clear as I am when I say I am a British Serb.

What is offensive is if I denied the obvious reality of being a British citizen did not "conform to it" set up seperate education & institutions while demanding that all Brits spoke Serbian and decide to insurrect terrorist actions against the state and cry victimhood while organising the murder of police, judiciary, military and any civilians (including other ethnic-Albanians) who supported the state I was in.

The reality is that I respect the state I am in depsite all its faults and failings when it decided to bombard and kill my kin directly and indirectly! Or do you Mark Green propose that I deserve independence if I was to follow this "model of violent seccesion" as set by the Serbian Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija that the US would like to impose but cannot. In which case I guess we will have continued instability as the model can be equally used to reverse the current situation - mass influx of Serbs in the north and south with a huge encouragement to propagate and live off UN/EU aid till the demographics change - is this really the future of instability you want Mark Green?

As for passports don't forget they are Serbian regrdless what it has been written. They are issued in Republic of Serbia and it means they are Serbian. But don't worry new one will be issued in March. You will be by then still highly dependant on Serbian passports.
(bmrusila, 5 December 2007 16:44)

Bmrusila,

So according to you then, UNMIK passports who are issued in Germany are German passport, am i right?

Come on, you with "Serbian Passport" prove it, do you or do you not have Serbian Passport written Serbian Nationality. Come on Princip where is your Serbian Passport?

Being selective on what the IC is saying and not being able or choosing to ignore the overwhelming EU majority who support the independence is not only pathetic but is shotting yourself on the foot.

There is by all means some rocky time to come at Balkans, but rest assured my friends that this is next to nothing compared with when we lived for decades without any support from the government or any other nation during the Serbian propaganda. We live on different times my dear friends now and the world suddenly got very small for the truth to prevail.

B92 – Thank you for distorting my comment, I am sure you are aware of the principles of the impartiality. And before you lecture me on it please refer to most of the comments form the Serb camp and get an independent view of them.

Ida - please refer to my previous censored comment NO MORE PROPAGANDA

mr princip -- ok, here goes. you can blather on about "serbian albanians" "albanian serbs" whatever -- freedom of speech, and after all, you live in democratic merry old england, and not some place, further east shall we say.

but i, on the other hand, shall use my freedom of speech to once again congratulate the citizens of kosovo/a -- all the citizens (i'm not into ethnic cleansing, sorry) on the upcoming independence. it's never easy, and you will be threatened with all sorts of catastrophes, natural and highly unnatural -- but you shall persevere, and we around the world will be there to help out. i am excited about the future, and hopeful for all those who wish to join in, rather than try to drag us to the bad old days...

KS,

Serbia may have been the largest constitutent republic in YU and the capital of YU based in Belgrade but it was under the jurisdiction of the Yugoslav state. Thats a bit like saying that Germany is ruled by Bavaria. Its President was a Croat (Tito) and second in command Kardelj (Slovene). You also seem to forget that there was a K-Albanian preseident in the mid 80s. Oh wait, are you going to blame the Serbs for Tito and all the ills that fell upon YU.

Mr Tripi, I am indeed Irish and I dont drink Guinness, my favourite tipple is Carlsberg, a Danish larger beer.

Olf,


For your information read something about Serbian State of Nemanjic 1199-1371. Then continue with Debacle of Serbian State of Nemanjic 1371-1389. As you may conclude Serbia has long history of organized and civilized society. Serbia as modern and organised society within independent and officialy recognised state dates from 1878.

As for passports don't forget they are Serbian regrdless what it has been written. They are issued in Republic of Serbia and it means they are Serbian. But don't worry new one will be issued in March. You will be by then still highly dependant on Serbian passports.

I would like to correct Princip Ex-Yugoslavian,who has the luxury that many Serbs in Serbia dont have it of being a holder of British passport and being able to move freely, finding a job as they are pleny in Britain, have a proper life if he chooses to, that he is British Yugoslav. In history I have never come across of Serbia state, it was either, Otomans,SSK, Yugoslavians. I belive that Serbia has just started lving as a newest state in planet and that is after the Montenegro.
Princip, sorry mate ;-)

Niall O'Doherty, if you say that you are Irish (I daubt)-learn more about Ireland and have a pint of guinness mate.
Cheers!

@ princip uk

i am getting sick of your mention of Albanians getting serbian passport. who cares for serb pass, it means nothing. But anyway to make you feel better, i will tell you it is true, but remember what makes an albanian is not a passport piece of paper, but what is in his heart.
so as a conclusion I think is good for albanians to increase their numbers in other countries such as serbia, so they can help get more rights for presevo valley albanians.

Exactly right! Slovenia has much to offer in this case as it knows firsthand what it means to be under Serbian rule and how wonderful and prosperous is to be free and independent. It is the best example to all the ex-parts of Yugoslavia, with Kosova being one of them, to show what an small but independent nation can achieve if it is free to exercise its will and desires. Kosovans look forward to learn more from Slovenian experience.

Keep on waving at the web Princip.
Do you really think that US&EU would waist so much time and effort if they agreed with Serbia to give Kosova autonomy?
US&EU are to respect the will of the majority in Kosova and to give back the occupied land back to the proper owners.
Pricnip, these years should have served as a learning ground for all those ex-Yugoslavs living abroad and Serbs in Balkans. You should have learned by now that something that does not belong to you will never be yours, even after many centuries of torture, cleansing and terror. K-Albanians were never and will never be afraid to ask what belongs to them, history proves that.
Before you (rightly) say mafiocracy I suggest you involve in a discussion with Serbs in Serbia proper to discuss the very same there.

Princip, I think the Kosovo Albanians have expected they are in Kosovo and don't need you to keep telling them to expect the state they are in.

When you say "Serbian Albanians", do you mean Albanians in Southern Serbia or Kosovo Albanians, if you mean the K Albanians, then they would find this term offensive. Princip you clearly dislike the K Albanians, so why do you wish to have them in your state, or is it only their land you are interested in.

Maybe if Milosevic hadn't been so heavy handed in the former Yugoslavia, you'd still have a Yugoslav state that would be a member of the EU.

To B92 why didn’t you publish Slovenian Foreign Minister Rupel full statement?
Here it is what Rupel said, in his own words

"Slovenian Foreign Minister Dimitrij Rupel, whose country assumes the EU presidency on January 1, said Kosovo's path to independence should be "coordinated internationally."
"We need a little more time for that," Rupel told German business daily Handelsblatt, but added: "The Kosovars must definitely not wait another year for independence."
"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071203/wl_nm/serbia_kosovo_mediators_dc_1

I think Belgrade should not even bother to send an Ambasador to Slovenia , since they have plans to call back all Ambasadors from Countries , which will recognize Kosova. Slovenia is one of them.
Just an advice , don't bother to appoint an Ambasador to Slovenia.
As far as Mr. Rupel, he will do an excelent jobs as President of EU , during his term in office.

Being selective on what the IC is saying and not being able or choosing to ignore the overwhelming EU majority who support the independence is not only pathetic but is shotting yourself on the foot.

There is by all means some rocky time to come at Balkans, but rest assured my friends that this is next to nothing compared with when we lived for decades without any support from the government or any other nation during the Serbian propaganda. We live on different times my dear friends now and the world suddenly got very small for the truth to prevail.

Its a bit like saying the Chinese bombed Pearl Harbour.
(Niall O'Doherty, Ireland, 4 December 2007 18:35)

Might I say that an Irishman like yourself is an expert on WWII?

Slovania was under Serbian rule, so please spare us your words.

"but should rather seek other possibilities.

Precisely for that reason, according to the Slovenian foreign minister, more dialogue was needed, not only with Belgrade and Priština, but within the EU itself, in order to preserve its unity"

- were we not told it was all a Fait accompli the EU was unnamoulsly backing the US folly of throwing out all credibility of UN resolutions that they had formulated, signed and agreed to uphold?

Thaci said "immedialtly" after the 10th December - so we are waiting for the 11th Decemebr - if it comes and goes with no such illegal actions surely the penny must drop to those Serbian Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija that false promises from Uncle sam could never be delievered since it was not theirs to give!

Accept the state your in and start working on the truth and reconcilation to make Serbia a better state for all irrespective of ethnicity! Many hundreds of thousands have expressed this alligence in obtaining the Serbian passport - one cannot deny that Serbian institutions have not hold in the region when many see the Serbian passport as a must have over the Unmikistan passport!

Of course for some commentators come the 11th December they will carry on with a new ever extendable deadline - probably Dec. 20008 - the reality is all this time is being wasted and your in denial of the state your in and for that Economic development is sadly also being denied to those who desperatly need jobs and a future. Of course the leadership who control the only money making ventures in this mafiocracy of an entity are more then happy to allow the Status Quo. They are also more then happy to continue it while pretending Uncle Sam is coordinating a new extendable deadline - while all the time they obtain a greater and greater hold over what little economic activity there is.

11th December is an opportunity many to realise that there never was a genuine promise - it was false and now is the time for reality - accept teh state your in and start working with it in partnership to a European future where artifical boundaries and wall are not created but are removed.

Of course the EU is united - no illegal US folly - instead uphold the UN and Resolution 1244 i.e. Serbia's sovereignity and territorial integrity is upheld and Serbian Albanians need to acept the stat they are in!

Slovak PM warns against unilaterally declared independence for Kosovo
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/04/europe/EU-GEN-EU-Slovakia-Kosovo.php#end_main

Italy's premier urges Kosovo Albanians not to declare independence unilaterally
http://www.pr-inside.com/italy-s-premier-urges-kosovo-albanians-not-r329206.htm

The Slovene's say more talks are required especially for EU unity. The Slovaks say no unilateral recognition
"It's hard for us to imagine that we would recognize a Kosovo that unilaterally declares itself independent,"

Even the Italians are also stating the obvious - what Thaci (Ceku and Kosumi) have said will & can never be - i.e. you can declare what you want but it will be your biggest mistake!

And we were told it was all a fait acompli only Greece and Cyrpus still objected to the US illegal folly!

Come the 11th December there will be;
No Illegal declaration
No Illegal recognition
No Violence - NATO will act!

- let me make another pre-emptive prediction what ever new extendable deadline is set the same will apply!

Oh what a tangled web we weave.......

It is obvious that EU has no mutual standpoint on Kosovo issue. It will take long time before Kosovo become legally independent (if ever gain independence).

"when we lived for decades without any support from the government or any other nation during the Serbian propaganda"

When Kosovo was being very heavily financed by Yugoslavia and Serbia. Serbs had a special tax levied on them to send money down to Kosovo for the Albanians.

Serbs money build Pristina University, the hospitals, paved the roads, and everything.

Albanians weren't even paying for their electricity, water, healthcare, etc.

Albanians were given a free ride which is why many from Albania were coming up to Kosovo.

Many of today's "Kosovars" had at least one parent or grandparent come from Albania to live off other Yugoslavians' (but mostly Serbs' funding).

@ida "When Kosovo was being very heavily financed by Yugoslavia and Serbia. Serbs had a special tax levied on them to send money down to Kosovo for the Albanians. "

Why don't you take it up with your government then? It looks like K-Albanian's intention to severe any administrative ties with Serbia, is inline with your complains. You won't have to pay anymore for us. What's the problem then?

B92 – Thank you for distorting my comment, I am sure you are aware of the principles of the impartiality. And before you lecture me on it please refer to most of the comments form the Serb camp and get an independent view of them.

Ida - please refer to my previous censored comment NO MORE PROPAGANDA

I think is good for albanians to increase their numbers in other countries such as serbia, so they can help get more rights for presevo valley albanians.
(doni,

You think this means civilized strategy? Reproduction as a tool in order to gain some aim (this case right on selfdetermiabtion) is nothing more but primitive act that lead to pverty of the nation (this time Albanian nation). I no longer wonder why EU wants Serbia in its family without Kosovo!

Mark Green - Princip is clear in what he means:

"Serbian Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija"

"Maybe if Milosevic hadn't been so heavy handed in the former Yugoslavia, you'd still have a Yugoslav state that would be a member of the EU."

Very big assumption. Slovenia had been planning independence for a few years prior to 1991. Czechoslovakia split up with out any suggestion of "heavy-handedness" by either side there so it is hard to imagine that Yugoslavia would have stayed one country had Milosevic never existed.

Kosovo Albanians were rioting in 1981 when they had as much autonomy they later complained about losing.

Clean Cut - when was Slovenia last under "Serbian rule"?

"Exactly right! Slovenia has much to offer in this case as it knows firsthand what it means to be under Serbian rule - Clean Cut"

FYI, Slovenia was never under Serbian rule, it seceeded from the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia on 26 June 1991.

Its a bit like saying the Chinese bombed Pearl Harbour.

Mark Green,

"if you mean the K Albanians, then they would find this term offensive"

- as has already been pointed out to you by PJD (thanks) I was very clear about what I meant. Just as clear as I am when I say I am a British Serb.

What is offensive is if I denied the obvious reality of being a British citizen did not "conform to it" set up seperate education & institutions while demanding that all Brits spoke Serbian and decide to insurrect terrorist actions against the state and cry victimhood while organising the murder of police, judiciary, military and any civilians (including other ethnic-Albanians) who supported the state I was in.

The reality is that I respect the state I am in depsite all its faults and failings when it decided to bombard and kill my kin directly and indirectly! Or do you Mark Green propose that I deserve independence if I was to follow this "model of violent seccesion" as set by the Serbian Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija that the US would like to impose but cannot. In which case I guess we will have continued instability as the model can be equally used to reverse the current situation - mass influx of Serbs in the north and south with a huge encouragement to propagate and live off UN/EU aid till the demographics change - is this really the future of instability you want Mark Green?

"Slovania was under Serbian rule, so please spare us your words.
(KS, 4 December 2007 19:50)"

Do you mean Slovenia or Slavonia?

Neither were under Serbian rule anyhow.

Princip,UK
Many hundreds of thousands have expressed this alligence in obtaining the Serbian passport - one cannot deny that Serbian institutions have not hold in the region when many see the Serbian passport as a must have over the Unmikistan passport!
(Princip, UK, 4 December 2007 11:48)
Princip,
I don't mind you repeating yourself over and over, because I know and you know that you have lost your arguments hence these repeated comments every day.
I asked you few days ago and I am asking you again. Actually any Serb where ever they are, be that in London, Belgrade or Edinburgh like you Princip, do you or any one of you have Serbian Passport?

If you do then please let us know, on your Serbian Passport, does it say under Nationality as Serbian Nationality?

Let me guess! There is no Serbian Passport.

Now that we are clear about this, could you tell me how on earth do Albanians have Serbian Passport whereas you, Serbians, don't have one.

Nice try Princip but aren't you tired of weaving your tangled web of propaganda?

P.S If one Serb can show me a proof that Serbs have their passport written Serbian under Nationality then I will make a public apology to all Serbs where ever they are.

Come on, anyone?

mr princip -- ok, here goes. you can blather on about "serbian albanians" "albanian serbs" whatever -- freedom of speech, and after all, you live in democratic merry old england, and not some place, further east shall we say.

but i, on the other hand, shall use my freedom of speech to once again congratulate the citizens of kosovo/a -- all the citizens (i'm not into ethnic cleansing, sorry) on the upcoming independence. it's never easy, and you will be threatened with all sorts of catastrophes, natural and highly unnatural -- but you shall persevere, and we around the world will be there to help out. i am excited about the future, and hopeful for all those who wish to join in, rather than try to drag us to the bad old days...

I would like to correct Princip Ex-Yugoslavian,who has the luxury that many Serbs in Serbia dont have it of being a holder of British passport and being able to move freely, finding a job as they are pleny in Britain, have a proper life if he chooses to, that he is British Yugoslav. In history I have never come across of Serbia state, it was either, Otomans,SSK, Yugoslavians. I belive that Serbia has just started lving as a newest state in planet and that is after the Montenegro.
Princip, sorry mate ;-)

Niall O'Doherty, if you say that you are Irish (I daubt)-learn more about Ireland and have a pint of guinness mate.
Cheers!

KS,

Serbia may have been the largest constitutent republic in YU and the capital of YU based in Belgrade but it was under the jurisdiction of the Yugoslav state. Thats a bit like saying that Germany is ruled by Bavaria. Its President was a Croat (Tito) and second in command Kardelj (Slovene). You also seem to forget that there was a K-Albanian preseident in the mid 80s. Oh wait, are you going to blame the Serbs for Tito and all the ills that fell upon YU.

Mr Tripi, I am indeed Irish and I dont drink Guinness, my favourite tipple is Carlsberg, a Danish larger beer.

Olf,


For your information read something about Serbian State of Nemanjic 1199-1371. Then continue with Debacle of Serbian State of Nemanjic 1371-1389. As you may conclude Serbia has long history of organized and civilized society. Serbia as modern and organised society within independent and officialy recognised state dates from 1878.

As for passports don't forget they are Serbian regrdless what it has been written. They are issued in Republic of Serbia and it means they are Serbian. But don't worry new one will be issued in March. You will be by then still highly dependant on Serbian passports.

As for passports don't forget they are Serbian regrdless what it has been written. They are issued in Republic of Serbia and it means they are Serbian. But don't worry new one will be issued in March. You will be by then still highly dependant on Serbian passports.
(bmrusila, 5 December 2007 16:44)

Bmrusila,

So according to you then, UNMIK passports who are issued in Germany are German passport, am i right?

Come on, you with "Serbian Passport" prove it, do you or do you not have Serbian Passport written Serbian Nationality. Come on Princip where is your Serbian Passport?