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Saturday, 01.12.2007.

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Hague: Haradinaj plans no defense

Lawyers representing Ramush Haradinaj will not call any defense witnesses in his war crimes trial, the AP reports.

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Rob

pre 16 godina

ida, please. For the last time, check your facts. Haradinaj was never accused of raping anyone. It's all in the indictment. The only thing he's accused of personally doing is kicking a guy in the back.
And as for the comments about Seslj... who ever said that Seslj was a thug? From my understanding he's intelligent, sophisticated and personable. He just also happens to be insane.

ida

pre 16 godina

"You Serb Camp call this man a thug but yet what you accuse him of is not THUGARY."

Oh yes it is. He raped a young Roma girl and raped and tortured others as well. He and his followers killed Albanian civilians as well.

bganon

pre 16 godina

KS I can hardly resist such a post really.

'Thugs don't fight in wars'

No? What do they do, suddenly turn into intellectuals and leave the country to study somewhere else? Sorry but thugs are the first ones to take part in war. We ALL saw that, you cant change history now.

'thugs don't give up willingly to go hundreds of miles away to some court to face fictitious accusations for his people. '

How nice of you to compliment Vojislav Seselj. I believe that thugs should have a fair trial but I dont have any emotional investment in 'protecting' accused war criminals.

'I don't have concrete evidence that he took any part on the war...besides being in Kosova during 98-99.'

Then you are not following his trial closely. Besides thankfully you wont be making the decision. It seems as if you want to believe the guy is innocent. Its patently obvious to anybody neutral watching the trial that the man is a common thug. That conclusion can be drawn just from the fact that witnesses are behaving the way they are.

'Let's say that what these people claim that they saw under his orders all these people being killed. They would be traumatized, shocked, emotionally unstable to fully recognize the captors faces. How hard is it to mix peoples faces up? Not that hard at all. '

You know that kind of statement reminds me a little of Milosevic when he rebutted evidence of Kosovo Albanian witnesses.

To summarise you are using the Seselj, Milosevic defence.

Now if a civilian leader (as in other democratic countries) was Prime Minister of Kosovo nobody would be able to accuse him of war crimes. But if warlords are in charge what do you expect?

KS

pre 16 godina

You Serb Camp call this man a thug but yet what you accuse him of is not THUGARY. Thugs don't fight in wars, thugs don't defend their country, thugs don't give up willingly to go hundreds of miles away to some court to face fictitious accusations for his people.

You say that he committed war crimes...I say, I don't have concrete evidence that he took any part on the war...besides being in Kosova during 98-99.
All the readers know are some pictures they have seen of Haradinaj in UCK uniform. Let's say that what these people claim that they saw under his orders all these people being killed. They would be traumatized, shocked, emotionally unstable to fully recognize the captors faces. How hard is it to mix peoples faces up? Not that hard at all.

I don't blame them for no defense. These accusations get more and more pathetic by the day, seriously. When Thaçi becomes prime I can bet that Belgrade will somehow arrange for ICTY to call on him for Hague... Enough is Enough!

dreamon

pre 16 godina

I guess there are greater things happening than you or the lay person can see. :)

Obviously, he'll be working ministerial level in Thaci's administration in the newly independent sovereign nation of Kosova. :)
It's a matter of timing that's going into this decision by the defense.

bganon

pre 16 godina

I smell a rat. Not that I have any sympathy for that thug but I think he's being left out to dry, or in other words he's been encouraged by false advice.

Still, his trial will be remembered for the sheer amount of witnesses who were too petrified to testify.

Its would be better for everybody involved if he was to just silently be written out of history.

Besides, Daut is taking care of things now.

lids

pre 16 godina

The point was getting him there.Treat him like a criminal and for the rest of his natural life he is nothing but someone who has blood of innocent on his hands.
"Snake" next please..

village-bey

pre 16 godina

That’s a huge gamble. Massive legal bills, a separate fund set up on purpose and in the end no case for defence. One may wonder about the proportionality between the case brought forward and efforts by defence legal team. If Ben Emmerson is proven right on this one, the Haradinaj case will be exposed as nothing but a political show trial from the past and as such should never have been brought up before judges in the first place.
Let’s see how this turns out.

lids

pre 16 godina

The point was getting him there.Treat him like a criminal and for the rest of his natural life he is nothing but someone who has blood of innocent on his hands.
"Snake" next please..

village-bey

pre 16 godina

That’s a huge gamble. Massive legal bills, a separate fund set up on purpose and in the end no case for defence. One may wonder about the proportionality between the case brought forward and efforts by defence legal team. If Ben Emmerson is proven right on this one, the Haradinaj case will be exposed as nothing but a political show trial from the past and as such should never have been brought up before judges in the first place.
Let’s see how this turns out.

bganon

pre 16 godina

I smell a rat. Not that I have any sympathy for that thug but I think he's being left out to dry, or in other words he's been encouraged by false advice.

Still, his trial will be remembered for the sheer amount of witnesses who were too petrified to testify.

Its would be better for everybody involved if he was to just silently be written out of history.

Besides, Daut is taking care of things now.

KS

pre 16 godina

You Serb Camp call this man a thug but yet what you accuse him of is not THUGARY. Thugs don't fight in wars, thugs don't defend their country, thugs don't give up willingly to go hundreds of miles away to some court to face fictitious accusations for his people.

You say that he committed war crimes...I say, I don't have concrete evidence that he took any part on the war...besides being in Kosova during 98-99.
All the readers know are some pictures they have seen of Haradinaj in UCK uniform. Let's say that what these people claim that they saw under his orders all these people being killed. They would be traumatized, shocked, emotionally unstable to fully recognize the captors faces. How hard is it to mix peoples faces up? Not that hard at all.

I don't blame them for no defense. These accusations get more and more pathetic by the day, seriously. When Thaçi becomes prime I can bet that Belgrade will somehow arrange for ICTY to call on him for Hague... Enough is Enough!

bganon

pre 16 godina

KS I can hardly resist such a post really.

'Thugs don't fight in wars'

No? What do they do, suddenly turn into intellectuals and leave the country to study somewhere else? Sorry but thugs are the first ones to take part in war. We ALL saw that, you cant change history now.

'thugs don't give up willingly to go hundreds of miles away to some court to face fictitious accusations for his people. '

How nice of you to compliment Vojislav Seselj. I believe that thugs should have a fair trial but I dont have any emotional investment in 'protecting' accused war criminals.

'I don't have concrete evidence that he took any part on the war...besides being in Kosova during 98-99.'

Then you are not following his trial closely. Besides thankfully you wont be making the decision. It seems as if you want to believe the guy is innocent. Its patently obvious to anybody neutral watching the trial that the man is a common thug. That conclusion can be drawn just from the fact that witnesses are behaving the way they are.

'Let's say that what these people claim that they saw under his orders all these people being killed. They would be traumatized, shocked, emotionally unstable to fully recognize the captors faces. How hard is it to mix peoples faces up? Not that hard at all. '

You know that kind of statement reminds me a little of Milosevic when he rebutted evidence of Kosovo Albanian witnesses.

To summarise you are using the Seselj, Milosevic defence.

Now if a civilian leader (as in other democratic countries) was Prime Minister of Kosovo nobody would be able to accuse him of war crimes. But if warlords are in charge what do you expect?

Rob

pre 16 godina

ida, please. For the last time, check your facts. Haradinaj was never accused of raping anyone. It's all in the indictment. The only thing he's accused of personally doing is kicking a guy in the back.
And as for the comments about Seslj... who ever said that Seslj was a thug? From my understanding he's intelligent, sophisticated and personable. He just also happens to be insane.

dreamon

pre 16 godina

I guess there are greater things happening than you or the lay person can see. :)

Obviously, he'll be working ministerial level in Thaci's administration in the newly independent sovereign nation of Kosova. :)
It's a matter of timing that's going into this decision by the defense.

ida

pre 16 godina

"You Serb Camp call this man a thug but yet what you accuse him of is not THUGARY."

Oh yes it is. He raped a young Roma girl and raped and tortured others as well. He and his followers killed Albanian civilians as well.

village-bey

pre 16 godina

That’s a huge gamble. Massive legal bills, a separate fund set up on purpose and in the end no case for defence. One may wonder about the proportionality between the case brought forward and efforts by defence legal team. If Ben Emmerson is proven right on this one, the Haradinaj case will be exposed as nothing but a political show trial from the past and as such should never have been brought up before judges in the first place.
Let’s see how this turns out.

dreamon

pre 16 godina

I guess there are greater things happening than you or the lay person can see. :)

Obviously, he'll be working ministerial level in Thaci's administration in the newly independent sovereign nation of Kosova. :)
It's a matter of timing that's going into this decision by the defense.

KS

pre 16 godina

You Serb Camp call this man a thug but yet what you accuse him of is not THUGARY. Thugs don't fight in wars, thugs don't defend their country, thugs don't give up willingly to go hundreds of miles away to some court to face fictitious accusations for his people.

You say that he committed war crimes...I say, I don't have concrete evidence that he took any part on the war...besides being in Kosova during 98-99.
All the readers know are some pictures they have seen of Haradinaj in UCK uniform. Let's say that what these people claim that they saw under his orders all these people being killed. They would be traumatized, shocked, emotionally unstable to fully recognize the captors faces. How hard is it to mix peoples faces up? Not that hard at all.

I don't blame them for no defense. These accusations get more and more pathetic by the day, seriously. When Thaçi becomes prime I can bet that Belgrade will somehow arrange for ICTY to call on him for Hague... Enough is Enough!

lids

pre 16 godina

The point was getting him there.Treat him like a criminal and for the rest of his natural life he is nothing but someone who has blood of innocent on his hands.
"Snake" next please..

bganon

pre 16 godina

I smell a rat. Not that I have any sympathy for that thug but I think he's being left out to dry, or in other words he's been encouraged by false advice.

Still, his trial will be remembered for the sheer amount of witnesses who were too petrified to testify.

Its would be better for everybody involved if he was to just silently be written out of history.

Besides, Daut is taking care of things now.

bganon

pre 16 godina

KS I can hardly resist such a post really.

'Thugs don't fight in wars'

No? What do they do, suddenly turn into intellectuals and leave the country to study somewhere else? Sorry but thugs are the first ones to take part in war. We ALL saw that, you cant change history now.

'thugs don't give up willingly to go hundreds of miles away to some court to face fictitious accusations for his people. '

How nice of you to compliment Vojislav Seselj. I believe that thugs should have a fair trial but I dont have any emotional investment in 'protecting' accused war criminals.

'I don't have concrete evidence that he took any part on the war...besides being in Kosova during 98-99.'

Then you are not following his trial closely. Besides thankfully you wont be making the decision. It seems as if you want to believe the guy is innocent. Its patently obvious to anybody neutral watching the trial that the man is a common thug. That conclusion can be drawn just from the fact that witnesses are behaving the way they are.

'Let's say that what these people claim that they saw under his orders all these people being killed. They would be traumatized, shocked, emotionally unstable to fully recognize the captors faces. How hard is it to mix peoples faces up? Not that hard at all. '

You know that kind of statement reminds me a little of Milosevic when he rebutted evidence of Kosovo Albanian witnesses.

To summarise you are using the Seselj, Milosevic defence.

Now if a civilian leader (as in other democratic countries) was Prime Minister of Kosovo nobody would be able to accuse him of war crimes. But if warlords are in charge what do you expect?

ida

pre 16 godina

"You Serb Camp call this man a thug but yet what you accuse him of is not THUGARY."

Oh yes it is. He raped a young Roma girl and raped and tortured others as well. He and his followers killed Albanian civilians as well.

Rob

pre 16 godina

ida, please. For the last time, check your facts. Haradinaj was never accused of raping anyone. It's all in the indictment. The only thing he's accused of personally doing is kicking a guy in the back.
And as for the comments about Seslj... who ever said that Seslj was a thug? From my understanding he's intelligent, sophisticated and personable. He just also happens to be insane.