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Retired general refutes deportation claims

Retired Yugoslav Army (VJ) General Božidar Delić denied claims that Albanians had been forced out of Kosovo in 1999.

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mika

pre 16 godina

Nothing much to say really, to denie that Serbian army, police and paramilitar forces made ethnic cleansing over Kosovar Albanians is like trying to denie hollocaust. Myself, i saw several killings of my copatriots by Serbian forces, i burried some of them during the night, and those killings had only one purpose : to scare people and force them to leave Kosovo in big numbers.My family was beaten by Sebian forces on 28 March 1999, and we were forced to leave Kosovo walking all away from Mitrovica-Albanian border and other way around. It was war time and i don't blame Serbians, if we had force maybe we would do exactly the same to them, i blame them for denying those crimes, at least you could act like a man should act and make confession, who knows dear God may forgive you, but not the people who suffered from you. Be sure of that .

mamalione

pre 16 godina

robertO, are you agreeing that the Albanians staged a lot of the 1999 Exodus? I'm confused by your writing.
Anyway, let's be honest here. How can a small disproportionate amount of Serbian forces drive out a million Albanians? Think about it, a million people. But here is the kicker anyway, they all came back. It was not ethnic cleansing as projected, was it? We all know what the real ethnic cleansing was, don't we? When the Serbs were driven from their homeland by criminal Albanians under NATO's eyes. That is the real crime in Kosovo. Maybe Hillary could expound on that? But then, they are only Serbs and, Bill knew how to deal with them.

robert0

pre 16 godina

teni -- i am in total agreement w/you as usual. i wish the good general a long prison term. if they can't use specific war-crime evidence, there is always the P-word (perjury.)

i won't argue the point about running away fr serb terror forces -- the evidence fills volumes and i've read quite a bit of it -- it's pretty horrible.

as long as war crimes are covered up and lied about, no progress will ever be made.

ida

pre 16 godina

A German reporter, Franz Josef Hutsch, embedded with the KLA said that villages were evacuated on KLA orders. He testified he'd seen the lists drawn up for certain villages 2 months before NATO bombing. He also says much was staged by the KLA:

Hutsch claims there was even a "priority list of villages to be evacuated" which were in fact evacuated when air strikes began on 24 March 1999. The witness mentioned several Albanian villages in the area between Orahovac and Suva Reka that were evacuated on KLA orders.

PJD

pre 16 godina

teni:
"Well Mr.Delic, first of all I wish you a long prison term."

You obviously didn't read the article - Delic is a witness and not a defendant!

smile

pre 16 godina

i think that the reason for the albanians leaving homes and going to other coutnries in 99 was a combination of factors. first, i think they were afraid of our forces. after all war is war, and for at least two years before that war albanians were killing our civilians and cops in kosovo. they figured they were now not safe with full war going on. another reason was kla probably forcing some of them out, i dont think any family in their right mind would voluntarily contribute to media propaganda effort, but i think kla and those who advised them were looking for the cnn effect. nato bombing was probably the least of all reasons, although mind you it was very different in kosovo that here as i understand. where i live there were only a couple of attacks and against an ammo plant, and there was really no reason for anyone to go to shelter much less leave their house. but it was more intense in kosovo to put it mildly.

nikshala

pre 16 godina

I am in disbelief!!!

When I read comments like Ratko's, I am suprised that there are people that genuinely believe that albanains left Kosovo because of NATO bombs! Its a scary thought that there are so misinformed people in the 21st century!

Unlike this general, who knows the truth, but is clearly lying to save himself, and is spiting serbian propaganda (which I can understand why he is doing that) - people like Ratko seem to believe his comments! He knows he is lying, so should you!

The sooner Kosovo gets independence the better, and hopefully it will never have anything to do with Serbia again!

Ratko

pre 16 godina

This is the TRUTH! Eveything the general said is the truth.

Of course people like victor will try to spin everything as anti-Serb. What can you do...

Hasim

pre 16 godina

Soldiers, policemen, parmilitaries, worked with local police and military units in exacting a reign of terror upon the Albanian population during the 1999 conflict in Kosovo.

What general Delic says is not the truth.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

I believe General and I am sure that what he was saying is true. Albanians should be more honest and stop denying this fact. They were mostly afraid of KLA and forced mobilization even before the bombing. During bombing they were organised by KLA and maybe even by OSCE in order to create humanitarian ctastrophe and justify NATO'S bombing.

Perhaps Albanians feard Arkan as well but it is unlikely since nobody saw him but just heard the stories. However, I admit that they were very well organized in order to show to the world what a victims they are. I just wonder where did they come up with 12 000 killed people.

teni

pre 16 godina

Well Mr.Delic, first of all I wish you a long prison term. Then Albania did far more than lend artillery support during one battle to the KLA: it provided bases, training and weapons too, while ordinary Albanians provided shelter for all the refugees fleeing you, but in light of what you and your forces were doing in Kosova in 1998-99 I think the Albanian government of the time should be criticized for not doing more. People in the Northern regions of Albania, bordering Kosova are still dying from Serb mines to this day.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«I ran into them and asked them why they were leaving. Fear of the NATO bombing was the first reason. »

The expression is literally correct: to run into them!

I don't believe the retired general. Thousands and thousands of Albanians repeated what they soldiers were telling: RETURN TO ALBANIA.

The example given by Mr Delic cannot be generalized. I agree can a few could have been afraid of NATO, but the majority saw NATO as the Liberator. THen, why would they run and leave their village?

The Albanians, as the Bosnians in 1992, were afraid of the systemamtic campaign of terror created to chase them from their homes, and as we all know, Arkan and his paramilitary, and Seselj's paramilitary, and many other paramilitary units working in Kosovo, were paid to sustain this campaign of terror.

I do not believe a word in General Delic's testimony, relating to this topic.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 16 godina

Thsi guy is the biggest lier that I ahve ever heard in my life. I cannot beleive what I am reading at what he said. Still living in denial.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

" the end of May 1999, the KLA had artillery support from the Albanian side "

- and Albanian Govt. official today goe around suggesting it is impartial in wanting to continue its unashamed agression against the sovereignity and territorial integrity of its UN recognised neighbour.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

I believe General and I am sure that what he was saying is true. Albanians should be more honest and stop denying this fact. They were mostly afraid of KLA and forced mobilization even before the bombing. During bombing they were organised by KLA and maybe even by OSCE in order to create humanitarian ctastrophe and justify NATO'S bombing.

Perhaps Albanians feard Arkan as well but it is unlikely since nobody saw him but just heard the stories. However, I admit that they were very well organized in order to show to the world what a victims they are. I just wonder where did they come up with 12 000 killed people.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

" the end of May 1999, the KLA had artillery support from the Albanian side "

- and Albanian Govt. official today goe around suggesting it is impartial in wanting to continue its unashamed agression against the sovereignity and territorial integrity of its UN recognised neighbour.

teni

pre 16 godina

Well Mr.Delic, first of all I wish you a long prison term. Then Albania did far more than lend artillery support during one battle to the KLA: it provided bases, training and weapons too, while ordinary Albanians provided shelter for all the refugees fleeing you, but in light of what you and your forces were doing in Kosova in 1998-99 I think the Albanian government of the time should be criticized for not doing more. People in the Northern regions of Albania, bordering Kosova are still dying from Serb mines to this day.

Ratko

pre 16 godina

This is the TRUTH! Eveything the general said is the truth.

Of course people like victor will try to spin everything as anti-Serb. What can you do...

Ahmet Isufi

pre 16 godina

Thsi guy is the biggest lier that I ahve ever heard in my life. I cannot beleive what I am reading at what he said. Still living in denial.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«I ran into them and asked them why they were leaving. Fear of the NATO bombing was the first reason. »

The expression is literally correct: to run into them!

I don't believe the retired general. Thousands and thousands of Albanians repeated what they soldiers were telling: RETURN TO ALBANIA.

The example given by Mr Delic cannot be generalized. I agree can a few could have been afraid of NATO, but the majority saw NATO as the Liberator. THen, why would they run and leave their village?

The Albanians, as the Bosnians in 1992, were afraid of the systemamtic campaign of terror created to chase them from their homes, and as we all know, Arkan and his paramilitary, and Seselj's paramilitary, and many other paramilitary units working in Kosovo, were paid to sustain this campaign of terror.

I do not believe a word in General Delic's testimony, relating to this topic.

Hasim

pre 16 godina

Soldiers, policemen, parmilitaries, worked with local police and military units in exacting a reign of terror upon the Albanian population during the 1999 conflict in Kosovo.

What general Delic says is not the truth.

smile

pre 16 godina

i think that the reason for the albanians leaving homes and going to other coutnries in 99 was a combination of factors. first, i think they were afraid of our forces. after all war is war, and for at least two years before that war albanians were killing our civilians and cops in kosovo. they figured they were now not safe with full war going on. another reason was kla probably forcing some of them out, i dont think any family in their right mind would voluntarily contribute to media propaganda effort, but i think kla and those who advised them were looking for the cnn effect. nato bombing was probably the least of all reasons, although mind you it was very different in kosovo that here as i understand. where i live there were only a couple of attacks and against an ammo plant, and there was really no reason for anyone to go to shelter much less leave their house. but it was more intense in kosovo to put it mildly.

ida

pre 16 godina

A German reporter, Franz Josef Hutsch, embedded with the KLA said that villages were evacuated on KLA orders. He testified he'd seen the lists drawn up for certain villages 2 months before NATO bombing. He also says much was staged by the KLA:

Hutsch claims there was even a "priority list of villages to be evacuated" which were in fact evacuated when air strikes began on 24 March 1999. The witness mentioned several Albanian villages in the area between Orahovac and Suva Reka that were evacuated on KLA orders.

nikshala

pre 16 godina

I am in disbelief!!!

When I read comments like Ratko's, I am suprised that there are people that genuinely believe that albanains left Kosovo because of NATO bombs! Its a scary thought that there are so misinformed people in the 21st century!

Unlike this general, who knows the truth, but is clearly lying to save himself, and is spiting serbian propaganda (which I can understand why he is doing that) - people like Ratko seem to believe his comments! He knows he is lying, so should you!

The sooner Kosovo gets independence the better, and hopefully it will never have anything to do with Serbia again!

PJD

pre 16 godina

teni:
"Well Mr.Delic, first of all I wish you a long prison term."

You obviously didn't read the article - Delic is a witness and not a defendant!

mamalione

pre 16 godina

robertO, are you agreeing that the Albanians staged a lot of the 1999 Exodus? I'm confused by your writing.
Anyway, let's be honest here. How can a small disproportionate amount of Serbian forces drive out a million Albanians? Think about it, a million people. But here is the kicker anyway, they all came back. It was not ethnic cleansing as projected, was it? We all know what the real ethnic cleansing was, don't we? When the Serbs were driven from their homeland by criminal Albanians under NATO's eyes. That is the real crime in Kosovo. Maybe Hillary could expound on that? But then, they are only Serbs and, Bill knew how to deal with them.

robert0

pre 16 godina

teni -- i am in total agreement w/you as usual. i wish the good general a long prison term. if they can't use specific war-crime evidence, there is always the P-word (perjury.)

i won't argue the point about running away fr serb terror forces -- the evidence fills volumes and i've read quite a bit of it -- it's pretty horrible.

as long as war crimes are covered up and lied about, no progress will ever be made.

mika

pre 16 godina

Nothing much to say really, to denie that Serbian army, police and paramilitar forces made ethnic cleansing over Kosovar Albanians is like trying to denie hollocaust. Myself, i saw several killings of my copatriots by Serbian forces, i burried some of them during the night, and those killings had only one purpose : to scare people and force them to leave Kosovo in big numbers.My family was beaten by Sebian forces on 28 March 1999, and we were forced to leave Kosovo walking all away from Mitrovica-Albanian border and other way around. It was war time and i don't blame Serbians, if we had force maybe we would do exactly the same to them, i blame them for denying those crimes, at least you could act like a man should act and make confession, who knows dear God may forgive you, but not the people who suffered from you. Be sure of that .

teni

pre 16 godina

Well Mr.Delic, first of all I wish you a long prison term. Then Albania did far more than lend artillery support during one battle to the KLA: it provided bases, training and weapons too, while ordinary Albanians provided shelter for all the refugees fleeing you, but in light of what you and your forces were doing in Kosova in 1998-99 I think the Albanian government of the time should be criticized for not doing more. People in the Northern regions of Albania, bordering Kosova are still dying from Serb mines to this day.

Ahmet Isufi

pre 16 godina

Thsi guy is the biggest lier that I ahve ever heard in my life. I cannot beleive what I am reading at what he said. Still living in denial.

Victor

pre 16 godina

«I ran into them and asked them why they were leaving. Fear of the NATO bombing was the first reason. »

The expression is literally correct: to run into them!

I don't believe the retired general. Thousands and thousands of Albanians repeated what they soldiers were telling: RETURN TO ALBANIA.

The example given by Mr Delic cannot be generalized. I agree can a few could have been afraid of NATO, but the majority saw NATO as the Liberator. THen, why would they run and leave their village?

The Albanians, as the Bosnians in 1992, were afraid of the systemamtic campaign of terror created to chase them from their homes, and as we all know, Arkan and his paramilitary, and Seselj's paramilitary, and many other paramilitary units working in Kosovo, were paid to sustain this campaign of terror.

I do not believe a word in General Delic's testimony, relating to this topic.

Hasim

pre 16 godina

Soldiers, policemen, parmilitaries, worked with local police and military units in exacting a reign of terror upon the Albanian population during the 1999 conflict in Kosovo.

What general Delic says is not the truth.

Ratko

pre 16 godina

This is the TRUTH! Eveything the general said is the truth.

Of course people like victor will try to spin everything as anti-Serb. What can you do...

nikshala

pre 16 godina

I am in disbelief!!!

When I read comments like Ratko's, I am suprised that there are people that genuinely believe that albanains left Kosovo because of NATO bombs! Its a scary thought that there are so misinformed people in the 21st century!

Unlike this general, who knows the truth, but is clearly lying to save himself, and is spiting serbian propaganda (which I can understand why he is doing that) - people like Ratko seem to believe his comments! He knows he is lying, so should you!

The sooner Kosovo gets independence the better, and hopefully it will never have anything to do with Serbia again!

robert0

pre 16 godina

teni -- i am in total agreement w/you as usual. i wish the good general a long prison term. if they can't use specific war-crime evidence, there is always the P-word (perjury.)

i won't argue the point about running away fr serb terror forces -- the evidence fills volumes and i've read quite a bit of it -- it's pretty horrible.

as long as war crimes are covered up and lied about, no progress will ever be made.

Princip, UK

pre 16 godina

" the end of May 1999, the KLA had artillery support from the Albanian side "

- and Albanian Govt. official today goe around suggesting it is impartial in wanting to continue its unashamed agression against the sovereignity and territorial integrity of its UN recognised neighbour.

bmrusila

pre 16 godina

I believe General and I am sure that what he was saying is true. Albanians should be more honest and stop denying this fact. They were mostly afraid of KLA and forced mobilization even before the bombing. During bombing they were organised by KLA and maybe even by OSCE in order to create humanitarian ctastrophe and justify NATO'S bombing.

Perhaps Albanians feard Arkan as well but it is unlikely since nobody saw him but just heard the stories. However, I admit that they were very well organized in order to show to the world what a victims they are. I just wonder where did they come up with 12 000 killed people.

smile

pre 16 godina

i think that the reason for the albanians leaving homes and going to other coutnries in 99 was a combination of factors. first, i think they were afraid of our forces. after all war is war, and for at least two years before that war albanians were killing our civilians and cops in kosovo. they figured they were now not safe with full war going on. another reason was kla probably forcing some of them out, i dont think any family in their right mind would voluntarily contribute to media propaganda effort, but i think kla and those who advised them were looking for the cnn effect. nato bombing was probably the least of all reasons, although mind you it was very different in kosovo that here as i understand. where i live there were only a couple of attacks and against an ammo plant, and there was really no reason for anyone to go to shelter much less leave their house. but it was more intense in kosovo to put it mildly.

PJD

pre 16 godina

teni:
"Well Mr.Delic, first of all I wish you a long prison term."

You obviously didn't read the article - Delic is a witness and not a defendant!

ida

pre 16 godina

A German reporter, Franz Josef Hutsch, embedded with the KLA said that villages were evacuated on KLA orders. He testified he'd seen the lists drawn up for certain villages 2 months before NATO bombing. He also says much was staged by the KLA:

Hutsch claims there was even a "priority list of villages to be evacuated" which were in fact evacuated when air strikes began on 24 March 1999. The witness mentioned several Albanian villages in the area between Orahovac and Suva Reka that were evacuated on KLA orders.

mamalione

pre 16 godina

robertO, are you agreeing that the Albanians staged a lot of the 1999 Exodus? I'm confused by your writing.
Anyway, let's be honest here. How can a small disproportionate amount of Serbian forces drive out a million Albanians? Think about it, a million people. But here is the kicker anyway, they all came back. It was not ethnic cleansing as projected, was it? We all know what the real ethnic cleansing was, don't we? When the Serbs were driven from their homeland by criminal Albanians under NATO's eyes. That is the real crime in Kosovo. Maybe Hillary could expound on that? But then, they are only Serbs and, Bill knew how to deal with them.

mika

pre 16 godina

Nothing much to say really, to denie that Serbian army, police and paramilitar forces made ethnic cleansing over Kosovar Albanians is like trying to denie hollocaust. Myself, i saw several killings of my copatriots by Serbian forces, i burried some of them during the night, and those killings had only one purpose : to scare people and force them to leave Kosovo in big numbers.My family was beaten by Sebian forces on 28 March 1999, and we were forced to leave Kosovo walking all away from Mitrovica-Albanian border and other way around. It was war time and i don't blame Serbians, if we had force maybe we would do exactly the same to them, i blame them for denying those crimes, at least you could act like a man should act and make confession, who knows dear God may forgive you, but not the people who suffered from you. Be sure of that .