Valley Albanians fear "increased militarization"

Mr Halimi, why don't you speak to your compatriots from Kosovo and Metohija to witdraw ANA forces from that region. Yet, Mr you speak about ghettoisation of Albanians in Presevo Valley without mentioning ghettoisation of Serbs in Kosovo who cannot even move freely without KFOR soldiers and cannot communicate in own language. Perhaps you can send some notice to your compatriots in Kosovo. Unlike Serbs in Kosovo, Albanians have choice. One of the choice is selling the property from Presevo and moving in another places all over Serbia. Another choice is moving to Kosovo or even Albania if you like. Serbia has right to deploy its forces wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens. I am sure you realise that Presevo Valley region is jeopardized by ANA. There is nothing for you Albanians to fear as long as you stay loyal citizens and do not induce violence against Serbian forces.

That would signal a ghettoization of the Albanians in the region.
Somebody please send this man to Kosovo to see what real gheto is,and please a copy of constitution becouse it is clear that he does not think Serbia is where he presides.

This is a good enough reason to ask for right for self determination. People do not want to be living under military regime and certainly not under the regime that knows nothing but language of violence against them. Serbia forces will use the Independence of Kosova s a pretext for violence towards civilians. I think that international community should react in this case and protect the civilians. This should be stopped by any means. Princip,bmrusila according to International law you are obliged to do something to protect the rights of the citizens. What are you going to do

The Albanian community is afraid of a repeat of 1999, when Serbian forces, for those too disillusioned to remember, tried to ethnically cleanse them. It is a rational worry, wouldn't you agree?

Valley Albanians want to be marginalized so that they can join greater Albania....they will gladly take Serbian money, but not Serbian help....FACT

"Serbia has right to deploy its forces wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens"

bmrusila, do you remember why you lost Kosova in the first place? Do you really think militarization is the solution? If you think so, then I just hope your politicians listen to you. You will only come out as loosers.

Where Albanians reside, conflicts are started. Look at Macedonia, Montenegro, Greece.

"What are you going to do
(Olf, 26 November 2007 16:17)"

here's a scenario:
we're going to put them in ethnic enclaves behind barbed wire and provide armed escort if they wanna go to school or shopping or any other everyday activity. if they don't want armed escort, they can risk dying in the street.
we will advise them against walking in presevo, bujanovac or medvedja speaking their mother tongue because this may get them lynched.
if they travel to pristina, their buses will be liable to be hit with rockets or at least molotov cocktails.
their mosques, from the un heritage list, will be shelled, burned and desecrated.
ok, so they don't have any mosques on the un heritage list. strike that.
their graveyards will be ruined. tombstones broken. they will have to go and dig up their loved ones and go through agony just so that they can rebury them where it's safe to visit.

but, this must never happen, because, what a completely and utterly barbaric scenario! is there a single albanian or anyone else for that matter here who would not call this a completely and utterly disgusting and barbaric scenario.
pls let us know if you exist out there, and believe a scenario like this is acceptable or justifiable in any way. if not, tell us why it's unacceptable. i mentioned disgusting and barbaric. you can add more adjectives.

What is the Albanian community afraid of? Serbia is moving forward! The victim mentality from the Albanians will have to change if they want to live and prosper alongside their fellow countrymen.

bmrusila; "Serbia has right to deploy its forces wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens"
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bmrusila, also Kosovo has right to dep[loy police forces in the Serbian populated areas wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens.

"also Kosovo has right to dep[loy police forces in the Serbian populated areas wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens."

serbia is a country, kosovo is not. kosovo police deploys where un and nato tells it to deploy and obeys if they say do not deploy. if kosovo police try to disobey nato will disarm and disband it in about 8 minutes.

Please, don't militarize Albanian-populated South of Serbia. Speaking from the experience of the last 15 years, wherever Serbian soldiers were sent, another war started. Presevo Valley Albanians are only asking not to make that area another Pre-Kosova look-alike.

the serbian army is there to protect serbian citizens and interests.
the Albanians there are also serbian citizens, so their "fear" is groundless.

they should rather fear albanian criminals starting a new conflict in the balkans...

that is the only danger at the moment, since they won´t get what they want.

miri,texwiller,

Smile already gave you an answer.

Thanks Smile it was good one.

I just don't know why do you Albanians fear so much. Serbia takes care that ANA do not enter Southern Serbia. As I said, if your compatriots do nothing in order to provoke and induce violence against the Serbian Army then there is nothing to be afraid of.

Teni,

I am sorry but you understood me wrong. However, Albanians in Presevo do not live in ghetto as for militarization I said and stick to that Serbia should and have right to protect its citizens. Don't forget that ANA patrols in that region. But why would I expect you to believe since whereever Albanians live they must be victims. Furthermore I also meantioned that if Albanians fer to live in Valley may move away and as first choice I choose Serbia (any another place in Serbia). The choice is up to them. But if they liked to be close to Kosovo they may join you in Kosovo. Kosovo Serbs on the other hand cannot move anywhere else but behind barb-wire and cannot live where it pleases them. Albanoians in Serbia have that choice. As for the reavnge I am sure that Albanians will use every possible way to twist the facts as an excuse in order to slaughter the rest of the Serbs living in Kosovo.

Olf,

Rapings and slaughtering of Sebian population in Kosovo was happening many years before Milosevic. It lasted for decades. I am sorry that you have to face that fact that once you were brutal rapists overthere. That is the reason why Milosevic, when it came to power, said addressing to Serbs in Kosovo "No one will beat you any longer". And why would he say something like that?

Smile

I never thought that someone would think such a scenario. I have seen plenty of those in concentration camps in Bosnia. Shocking!
Smile, 200 years of that kind of scenarion were not enough for you?
People's right for Self-determination should be respected no mater what.
These people do not want to live behind the barbed wires in order to make the International Community think that their life’s are in danger, in fact, Int.Community has had enough of such scenarios they don’t even trust them any longer.
You are also reminding me how Milosevic made every Serb believe that they are victims of Yugoslavia and the Serbs should be united in one state. It also reminds me times when Milosevic paid Serbian people to demolish Serbian graves in Kosova, rape Serbia woman ect, and blame Albanians for that so he could start his slaughter. All these are documented in documentaries in which Serbs themselves admit to doing them.
Smile, plenty more to say about scenarios but (un)fortunately no one believes them anymore.
Try again!

Serbia's army won't attack the Albanians in Presevo Valley, why is everyone so worried?
(Peter Sudyka, 26 November 2007 19:07)

Peter, similar words were spoken by the Dutch UN commander in Srebrenica, just before 8000 men and boys were killed by the Serb forces.
Militarization of the Presheva Valley creates a dangereous situation and should not be allowed. Serbia's intents are to intimidate and ultimately ethnically cleanse the regions of Presheva, Bujanovc and Medvegja from its local Albanian population.
According to Kumanovo military-technical agreement, Serb forces are required to respect the 25 km Air Safety Zone and the 5 km Ground Safety Zone. NATO should demand that Serbia complies with this agreement, before it's too late.

Serbia's army won't attack the Albanians in Presevo Valley, why is everyone so worried?

olf:
I disagree with most of the things pro Albanians post on this forum, but I will respectfully listen to them because I know that's one way to start making things better.

However, I have little tolerance for the type of rhetoric you promote.

Good luck, but I for one will not be reading your postings any longer. You just don't have much to offer.

I see a lot of nonsense here.
Serbia has a right to deploy its army in its territory since they can not do it in Kosova/o.
But lets not forget that Preshevo Valley, being populated with Albanians is not a "user friendly" territory.

Jovan, I dont think any person in the world should be behind barbed wire in a Ghetto. Just think of the Jews in WW2 in Poland and Check Republic, think of Bosna and Omarska, Srebrenica.
I dont think Serbs in Kosova/o should be in that situation and neither Albanians in Preshevo Valley.
So lets calm it down with excessive comments, who would do what, to whom and how. These are barbaric methods.

(smile, 26 November 2007 16:54)
You are right Smile, that is barbaric. It took you 70 years to realise it. Vaso Cubrilovic had that plan in 1937.

bmrusila: Do I understand your point correctly? Since allegedly Serbs in Kosova are facing all that you say, Serbia should reply in kind by doing the same to Valley Albanians? Well at least you don't even make a pretense of moral superiority as most of the Serb camp has been ranting on and on until now. And as for moving to Kosova or Albania, well I guess the K-Serbs could move to Serbia too right? Or they could sell their property and move somewhere else and clear out of the rest of Kosova maybe? O
And there are no ANA forces in Presheva bmrusila. They are only based in Kosova and they are at most some small groups and not worthy of being called "forces". Anyway you better keep in mind that given our Balkan fascination with "an eye for an eye" whatever happens to one of these two communities, i.e. K-Serbs or Valley Albanians is probably gonna happen to the other too, so let us all cool down and don't talk such nonsense any longer because what you suggest would be the surest way of causing another round of fighting.

"Where Albanians reside, conflicts are started. Look at Macedonia, Montenegro, Greece."

Sure thing. The rest of the world is so peaceful. What's there to look at? Let's look at Macedonia. Albanians are about 1/3 of its population and don't get good representation. Let's look at Canada and Quebec and we can see the difference in representation of the population in regions.

Bmrusila, I totally agree with everything you said. I was about the post the same thing. Don't even try to engage with teni. He understand what you were saying but is twisting your words on purpose to suit himself.

Nothing more frustrating than someone playing dumb and trying to put their own spin on what you say.

After reading so many Albanian posts here I am convinced that most of them are posted just to frustrate people with good arguments by twisting what is said and constantly sticking to the same "we were ethnically cleansed" propaganda which is proven to be just that.

I say to the Albanians, first become the citizens you want to be treated as. Ensure safety of the Serbian and non Albanian population there so they don't have to live behind barbed wire and in ghettos and then you will have some sort of credibility as a peaceful non racist people.

Don't ask for something you are not prepared to give. Although it will be given to you anyway.

“People's right for Self-determination should be respected no mater what… You are also reminding me how Milosevic made every Serb believe that they are victims of Yugoslavia and the Serbs should be united in one state. (Olf, 26 November 2007 20:08)”

Olf, clearly you ONLY support the Right to Self Determination for Albanians and NOT Serbs. Very hypocritical.

"According to Kumanovo military-technical agreement, Serb forces are required to respect the 25 km Air Safety Zone and the 5 km Ground Safety Zone. NATO should demand that Serbia complies with this agreement, before it's too late.
(Adrian Gashi, 26 November 2007 23:48)"
little knowledge is dangerous.
our forces are right on the line. and the very best we have, you know who i presume. the agreement was revised after ucpmb terrorists started attacking un on the kosovo side. in may 2001 if i'm not mistaken our forces were back.

Lazer, I agree with you, nobody should be behind any wires.
I don´t exactly know what you mean while referring to Bosnia:
there is a picture that is quite well known, and I have read about it being a fabrication in a book written by Chomsky. of course there were lots of detained Serbs, Croats and bosnian Muslims in that war, but if you are referring to that particular picture, at least I must say that I am not sure about it´s authenticity.
but in general I agree with you. the way the comments are written could be MUCH more civilized.
nevertheless Kosovo is serbian state-territory too.
if all those Albanians who fear the serbian army securing the borders to Macedonia or Albania are so sceptical, why are they not doing it together with the Serbs?
as long as nobody questions serbian state borders, I don´t see any problems in regard to that. what some low-level-paid UNMIK officers can do ( I´ve seen it on tv a Serb and an Albanian patroling together on horses somewhere inside Kosovo , what to be honest I found quite emberassing because it serves the prejudices of western viewers of the poeples living in that region.)
but once again: what those police-officers can do, must be possible for mixed serb-albanian soldiers. nobody would have reason for fear and all would feel themselves "represented".

but I think it is still too early for that. first the status-question must be settled in accordance to international law. then everything else will be easy-peasy...

"Peter, similar words were spoken by the Dutch UN commander in Srebrenica, just before 8000 men and boys were killed by the Serb forces.
Militarization of the Presheva Valley creates a dangereous situation and should not be allowed. Serbia's intents are to intimidate and ultimately ethnically cleanse the regions of Presheva, Bujanovc and Medvegja from its local Albanian population.
According to Kumanovo military-technical agreement, Serb forces are required to respect the 25 km Air Safety Zone and the 5 km Ground Safety Zone. NATO should demand that Serbia complies with this agreement, before it's too late.
(Adrian Gashi, 26 November 2007 23:48) "

I don't think you can compare Presevo with Srebrenica Adrian, first of all:

1) Serbia is not in a state of war.
2) There is no Milosevic, Karadzic or Mladic.
3) Serbia would not risk another UN adminstration of one of its regions, not after Kosovo anyway.
4) Dutch peacekeepers don't have a good reputation for military effectiveness, while NATO does.

I don't believe they would try and ethnically cleanse Presevo Valley any more than Kosovo Albanians would want to cleanse Kosovo's north. NATO is in the vicinity and I doubt anyone will try anything on a major scale.

Only elements which may stir trouble will be CLG and ANA.

that's ok more army or any kind of violence from serbian army to albanians in presheva faster deployment of internatioal trops seems like serbia still is living in the dark era.this is 21 century you do not do things how do you want when comes killing and abuse inocent people usually her in the heart of europe ,seem we all know by history every attacker lost they war and allways it will be.

The Albanian community is afraid of a repeat of 1999, when Serbian forces, for those too disillusioned to remember, tried to ethnically cleanse them. It is a rational worry, wouldn't you agree?

Valley Albanians want to be marginalized so that they can join greater Albania....they will gladly take Serbian money, but not Serbian help....FACT

Smile

I never thought that someone would think such a scenario. I have seen plenty of those in concentration camps in Bosnia. Shocking!
Smile, 200 years of that kind of scenarion were not enough for you?
People's right for Self-determination should be respected no mater what.
These people do not want to live behind the barbed wires in order to make the International Community think that their life’s are in danger, in fact, Int.Community has had enough of such scenarios they don’t even trust them any longer.
You are also reminding me how Milosevic made every Serb believe that they are victims of Yugoslavia and the Serbs should be united in one state. It also reminds me times when Milosevic paid Serbian people to demolish Serbian graves in Kosova, rape Serbia woman ect, and blame Albanians for that so he could start his slaughter. All these are documented in documentaries in which Serbs themselves admit to doing them.
Smile, plenty more to say about scenarios but (un)fortunately no one believes them anymore.
Try again!

Mr Halimi, why don't you speak to your compatriots from Kosovo and Metohija to witdraw ANA forces from that region. Yet, Mr you speak about ghettoisation of Albanians in Presevo Valley without mentioning ghettoisation of Serbs in Kosovo who cannot even move freely without KFOR soldiers and cannot communicate in own language. Perhaps you can send some notice to your compatriots in Kosovo. Unlike Serbs in Kosovo, Albanians have choice. One of the choice is selling the property from Presevo and moving in another places all over Serbia. Another choice is moving to Kosovo or even Albania if you like. Serbia has right to deploy its forces wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens. I am sure you realise that Presevo Valley region is jeopardized by ANA. There is nothing for you Albanians to fear as long as you stay loyal citizens and do not induce violence against Serbian forces.

What is the Albanian community afraid of? Serbia is moving forward! The victim mentality from the Albanians will have to change if they want to live and prosper alongside their fellow countrymen.

"Serbia has right to deploy its forces wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens"

bmrusila, do you remember why you lost Kosova in the first place? Do you really think militarization is the solution? If you think so, then I just hope your politicians listen to you. You will only come out as loosers.

Please, don't militarize Albanian-populated South of Serbia. Speaking from the experience of the last 15 years, wherever Serbian soldiers were sent, another war started. Presevo Valley Albanians are only asking not to make that area another Pre-Kosova look-alike.

bmrusila: Do I understand your point correctly? Since allegedly Serbs in Kosova are facing all that you say, Serbia should reply in kind by doing the same to Valley Albanians? Well at least you don't even make a pretense of moral superiority as most of the Serb camp has been ranting on and on until now. And as for moving to Kosova or Albania, well I guess the K-Serbs could move to Serbia too right? Or they could sell their property and move somewhere else and clear out of the rest of Kosova maybe? O
And there are no ANA forces in Presheva bmrusila. They are only based in Kosova and they are at most some small groups and not worthy of being called "forces". Anyway you better keep in mind that given our Balkan fascination with "an eye for an eye" whatever happens to one of these two communities, i.e. K-Serbs or Valley Albanians is probably gonna happen to the other too, so let us all cool down and don't talk such nonsense any longer because what you suggest would be the surest way of causing another round of fighting.

That would signal a ghettoization of the Albanians in the region.
Somebody please send this man to Kosovo to see what real gheto is,and please a copy of constitution becouse it is clear that he does not think Serbia is where he presides.

This is a good enough reason to ask for right for self determination. People do not want to be living under military regime and certainly not under the regime that knows nothing but language of violence against them. Serbia forces will use the Independence of Kosova s a pretext for violence towards civilians. I think that international community should react in this case and protect the civilians. This should be stopped by any means. Princip,bmrusila according to International law you are obliged to do something to protect the rights of the citizens. What are you going to do

bmrusila; "Serbia has right to deploy its forces wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens"
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bmrusila, also Kosovo has right to dep[loy police forces in the Serbian populated areas wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens.

"What are you going to do
(Olf, 26 November 2007 16:17)"

here's a scenario:
we're going to put them in ethnic enclaves behind barbed wire and provide armed escort if they wanna go to school or shopping or any other everyday activity. if they don't want armed escort, they can risk dying in the street.
we will advise them against walking in presevo, bujanovac or medvedja speaking their mother tongue because this may get them lynched.
if they travel to pristina, their buses will be liable to be hit with rockets or at least molotov cocktails.
their mosques, from the un heritage list, will be shelled, burned and desecrated.
ok, so they don't have any mosques on the un heritage list. strike that.
their graveyards will be ruined. tombstones broken. they will have to go and dig up their loved ones and go through agony just so that they can rebury them where it's safe to visit.

but, this must never happen, because, what a completely and utterly barbaric scenario! is there a single albanian or anyone else for that matter here who would not call this a completely and utterly disgusting and barbaric scenario.
pls let us know if you exist out there, and believe a scenario like this is acceptable or justifiable in any way. if not, tell us why it's unacceptable. i mentioned disgusting and barbaric. you can add more adjectives.

"also Kosovo has right to dep[loy police forces in the Serbian populated areas wherever is needed to ensure stability and protection for its citizens."

serbia is a country, kosovo is not. kosovo police deploys where un and nato tells it to deploy and obeys if they say do not deploy. if kosovo police try to disobey nato will disarm and disband it in about 8 minutes.

miri,texwiller,

Smile already gave you an answer.

Thanks Smile it was good one.

I just don't know why do you Albanians fear so much. Serbia takes care that ANA do not enter Southern Serbia. As I said, if your compatriots do nothing in order to provoke and induce violence against the Serbian Army then there is nothing to be afraid of.

(smile, 26 November 2007 16:54)
You are right Smile, that is barbaric. It took you 70 years to realise it. Vaso Cubrilovic had that plan in 1937.

Serbia's army won't attack the Albanians in Presevo Valley, why is everyone so worried?
(Peter Sudyka, 26 November 2007 19:07)

Peter, similar words were spoken by the Dutch UN commander in Srebrenica, just before 8000 men and boys were killed by the Serb forces.
Militarization of the Presheva Valley creates a dangereous situation and should not be allowed. Serbia's intents are to intimidate and ultimately ethnically cleanse the regions of Presheva, Bujanovc and Medvegja from its local Albanian population.
According to Kumanovo military-technical agreement, Serb forces are required to respect the 25 km Air Safety Zone and the 5 km Ground Safety Zone. NATO should demand that Serbia complies with this agreement, before it's too late.

that's ok more army or any kind of violence from serbian army to albanians in presheva faster deployment of internatioal trops seems like serbia still is living in the dark era.this is 21 century you do not do things how do you want when comes killing and abuse inocent people usually her in the heart of europe ,seem we all know by history every attacker lost they war and allways it will be.

I see a lot of nonsense here.
Serbia has a right to deploy its army in its territory since they can not do it in Kosova/o.
But lets not forget that Preshevo Valley, being populated with Albanians is not a "user friendly" territory.

Jovan, I dont think any person in the world should be behind barbed wire in a Ghetto. Just think of the Jews in WW2 in Poland and Check Republic, think of Bosna and Omarska, Srebrenica.
I dont think Serbs in Kosova/o should be in that situation and neither Albanians in Preshevo Valley.
So lets calm it down with excessive comments, who would do what, to whom and how. These are barbaric methods.

Teni,

I am sorry but you understood me wrong. However, Albanians in Presevo do not live in ghetto as for militarization I said and stick to that Serbia should and have right to protect its citizens. Don't forget that ANA patrols in that region. But why would I expect you to believe since whereever Albanians live they must be victims. Furthermore I also meantioned that if Albanians fer to live in Valley may move away and as first choice I choose Serbia (any another place in Serbia). The choice is up to them. But if they liked to be close to Kosovo they may join you in Kosovo. Kosovo Serbs on the other hand cannot move anywhere else but behind barb-wire and cannot live where it pleases them. Albanoians in Serbia have that choice. As for the reavnge I am sure that Albanians will use every possible way to twist the facts as an excuse in order to slaughter the rest of the Serbs living in Kosovo.

Olf,

Rapings and slaughtering of Sebian population in Kosovo was happening many years before Milosevic. It lasted for decades. I am sorry that you have to face that fact that once you were brutal rapists overthere. That is the reason why Milosevic, when it came to power, said addressing to Serbs in Kosovo "No one will beat you any longer". And why would he say something like that?

"Where Albanians reside, conflicts are started. Look at Macedonia, Montenegro, Greece."

Sure thing. The rest of the world is so peaceful. What's there to look at? Let's look at Macedonia. Albanians are about 1/3 of its population and don't get good representation. Let's look at Canada and Quebec and we can see the difference in representation of the population in regions.

Serbia's army won't attack the Albanians in Presevo Valley, why is everyone so worried?

Where Albanians reside, conflicts are started. Look at Macedonia, Montenegro, Greece.

the serbian army is there to protect serbian citizens and interests.
the Albanians there are also serbian citizens, so their "fear" is groundless.

they should rather fear albanian criminals starting a new conflict in the balkans...

that is the only danger at the moment, since they won´t get what they want.

Bmrusila, I totally agree with everything you said. I was about the post the same thing. Don't even try to engage with teni. He understand what you were saying but is twisting your words on purpose to suit himself.

Nothing more frustrating than someone playing dumb and trying to put their own spin on what you say.

After reading so many Albanian posts here I am convinced that most of them are posted just to frustrate people with good arguments by twisting what is said and constantly sticking to the same "we were ethnically cleansed" propaganda which is proven to be just that.

I say to the Albanians, first become the citizens you want to be treated as. Ensure safety of the Serbian and non Albanian population there so they don't have to live behind barbed wire and in ghettos and then you will have some sort of credibility as a peaceful non racist people.

Don't ask for something you are not prepared to give. Although it will be given to you anyway.

olf:
I disagree with most of the things pro Albanians post on this forum, but I will respectfully listen to them because I know that's one way to start making things better.

However, I have little tolerance for the type of rhetoric you promote.

Good luck, but I for one will not be reading your postings any longer. You just don't have much to offer.

"According to Kumanovo military-technical agreement, Serb forces are required to respect the 25 km Air Safety Zone and the 5 km Ground Safety Zone. NATO should demand that Serbia complies with this agreement, before it's too late.
(Adrian Gashi, 26 November 2007 23:48)"
little knowledge is dangerous.
our forces are right on the line. and the very best we have, you know who i presume. the agreement was revised after ucpmb terrorists started attacking un on the kosovo side. in may 2001 if i'm not mistaken our forces were back.

Lazer, I agree with you, nobody should be behind any wires.
I don´t exactly know what you mean while referring to Bosnia:
there is a picture that is quite well known, and I have read about it being a fabrication in a book written by Chomsky. of course there were lots of detained Serbs, Croats and bosnian Muslims in that war, but if you are referring to that particular picture, at least I must say that I am not sure about it´s authenticity.
but in general I agree with you. the way the comments are written could be MUCH more civilized.
nevertheless Kosovo is serbian state-territory too.
if all those Albanians who fear the serbian army securing the borders to Macedonia or Albania are so sceptical, why are they not doing it together with the Serbs?
as long as nobody questions serbian state borders, I don´t see any problems in regard to that. what some low-level-paid UNMIK officers can do ( I´ve seen it on tv a Serb and an Albanian patroling together on horses somewhere inside Kosovo , what to be honest I found quite emberassing because it serves the prejudices of western viewers of the poeples living in that region.)
but once again: what those police-officers can do, must be possible for mixed serb-albanian soldiers. nobody would have reason for fear and all would feel themselves "represented".

but I think it is still too early for that. first the status-question must be settled in accordance to international law. then everything else will be easy-peasy...

"Peter, similar words were spoken by the Dutch UN commander in Srebrenica, just before 8000 men and boys were killed by the Serb forces.
Militarization of the Presheva Valley creates a dangereous situation and should not be allowed. Serbia's intents are to intimidate and ultimately ethnically cleanse the regions of Presheva, Bujanovc and Medvegja from its local Albanian population.
According to Kumanovo military-technical agreement, Serb forces are required to respect the 25 km Air Safety Zone and the 5 km Ground Safety Zone. NATO should demand that Serbia complies with this agreement, before it's too late.
(Adrian Gashi, 26 November 2007 23:48) "

I don't think you can compare Presevo with Srebrenica Adrian, first of all:

1) Serbia is not in a state of war.
2) There is no Milosevic, Karadzic or Mladic.
3) Serbia would not risk another UN adminstration of one of its regions, not after Kosovo anyway.
4) Dutch peacekeepers don't have a good reputation for military effectiveness, while NATO does.

I don't believe they would try and ethnically cleanse Presevo Valley any more than Kosovo Albanians would want to cleanse Kosovo's north. NATO is in the vicinity and I doubt anyone will try anything on a major scale.

Only elements which may stir trouble will be CLG and ANA.

“People's right for Self-determination should be respected no mater what… You are also reminding me how Milosevic made every Serb believe that they are victims of Yugoslavia and the Serbs should be united in one state. (Olf, 26 November 2007 20:08)”

Olf, clearly you ONLY support the Right to Self Determination for Albanians and NOT Serbs. Very hypocritical.