German NATO battalion in northern Kosovo

I don't think serbia has a clue what type of forces along with military hardware is being stationed in northern part of Kosova, specifically Northern Mitro and Leposavic. Raids are being conducted on daily bases and caches of weapons are being confiscated. About time UNMIK and KFOR collects the weapons up north.By the way this is being done so as to create safe and secure envornemant for all citizens alike.

oh dear, given some of the comments above one would have thought something new had happened! It is not as if there werent other trrops already in place. I for one am happy to see that NATO are taking the risk of violence seriously - something they clarly have learnt from events in 2004. Moreover, as we all know from last february they are not afraid of using force to quell any possibility of violence.

One need also realise that the German troops need to get on with tracking down the ANA who have alleged that they have some terrorists in the area - I think this is Germany's bigger concern!

I dont think anyone need worry about Serbian actions just yet - diplomacy is working and international laws have not been and look even less likely to ever be broken for the sake of a few vocal ethnic-Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija. I guess come the 11th decemeber the reality will sink in that false promises can never be delieverd upon and you can ask uncle Sam why he misguided the few who believed him.

Dear B92

Why is this permitted to be posted? >> "No one believes Serbian diplomacy. Serb politicians have shown that the only tool that they use is violence towards civilians.

"No one believes Serbian diplomacy. Serb politicians have shown that the only tool that they use is violence towards civilians."

That's a completely uneducated comment of your's Olf. Obviously you haven't been paying attention to what's on the ground since 2000. It's so typical of the collective stereotyping done by uninformed nationalists.

Show me since 2000 where "violence towards civilians" has been used by Serb politicians as the "only tool". Put your money where your mouth is.

I think that NATO/KFOR is answering the calls of Princip, Jovan, Ron, Kate and is going to show that they are here to protect Serbs as well. They are going to protect Serbs form Serbs too, that’s why raids are conducted currently in north of Kosova
NO Violence=KFOR will intervene.
.... .....
.....

KFOR needs to secure all Kosova.

KFOR has to neytarlize any threat from Serbs, or ANA

Can someone tell me what these german soldiers are doing in north KiM? Other than to maintain the occupation of the Serbian province.

For once the KFOR troops in northern Kosova will be unbiased and maybe they will restore order and trust in both side of the river by eliminating the unlawful paramilitary “bridge guards” formations. No one wants bloodshed and whatever painful decision will be made after the talks between two sides the order and the rule of the law must be reestablished on the region. Apparently EU learned from Bosnia and will not let another mass grave to be excavated on the region. EU must not fail this time and reward Putin with the right to veto on European affairs.

Princip
I don’t think anyone need worry about Serbian actions just yet - diplomacy is working and international laws have not been and look even less likely to ever be broken for the sake of a few vocal ethnic-Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija

No one believes Serbian diplomacy. Serb politicians have shown that the only tool that they use is violence towards civilians.
Lets hope that KFOR will only be drinking hor tea and stay in their baracks.

It does not really matter at all if Kosovo becomes its own state. It will always be Serbia, something no one will be able to change! The land is full of Serbian Blood.

There is absolutely no reason that the Germans (of all people) should be in the North of KosovO - unless of course, they are looking to keep the albanians out & then the term "peacekeepers" is completely valid!

if my english-skills were so terribly lousy like some Albanians here are showing it...

I would simply stay quiet.

it´s just like the Tachi, who "studied" international law in switzerland ( allegedly )...

but I would love to know how he has managed it since his english is also more than poor.

guys, learn english!

let´s see what future brings.

so far, UNSC 1244 is still in effect - so what are you boasting around? you have achieved nothing at all.

sure, you will declare "independence"... and I will yawn to that.

"Can someone tell me what these german soldiers are doing in north KiM? "

They are there to secure that if Belgrade makes any attempt to partition Kosova it will be faced with a swift response from KFOR and NATO.

Show me since 2000 where "violence towards civilians" has been used by Serb politicians as the "only tool". Put your money where your mouth is.
(Mike, 20 November 2007 20:34)

he can't put any money where his mouth is mike... there is not a cent to spare... since the serbian police/army/government left kosovo they've just been getting poorer and poorer...

Look at the timeline of the events in last two days. Use common sense and figure out what criminal factions is KFOR interested in destroying!!



19 November 2007
-“Report: NATO, UN plan to seize control of Kosovo's north”

-“Alexander Ivanko, spokesperson for the UN administration in Kosovo, UNMIK, said that his organization was “doing some planning for the repositioning of UNMIK in the north”.
“However, we cannot talk about our plans”, Ivanko said.”

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=11&dd=19&nav_id=45537



20 November 2007
“German NATO battalion soon in northern Kosovo”

"Can someone tell me what these german soldiers are doing in north KiM? "

They are there to secure that if Belgrade makes any attempt to partition Kosova it will be faced with a swift response from KFOR and NATO.
(miri, 20 November 2007 17:59) "

miri,

did it ever occur to you that they might really be there to help protect K-Serbs from possible Albanian violence after Dec 10 when there's no independence? Or to hunt down the ANA?

In any case, Nato is mandated by 1244 to look after Kosovo's security. This includes Kosovo north of the Ibar. So everyone should not read too much into this deployment. After all Nato is there under 1244 and they, including the Germans, know they have to follow the provisions of that UN resolution.

"As more NATO soldiers as you send there, as safier those people will feel."

Not so as NATO stood by while Roma and Serb civilians were kidnapped and murdered throughout Kosovo so many of them fled to northern Kosovo where, by their numbers, they had some defense.

"Serbs are more confused then ever. First they tell NATO they don't need their protection, then they change their minds and say they need NATO protection, now they say why NATO wants to protect them. Guys, make up your minds! Those poor soldiers can't be magicians, so they can predict your judgemnt in advance.
(Clean Cut, 21 November 2007 10:38)"

Clean Cut,

I'm not a Serb but I think you are missing the point entirely. Nato is in Kosovo under 1244 to provide security ie. to protect the people there, including the K-Serbs.

K-Serbs therefore have the right to demand protection from Nato as and when they deem necessary. And it is those Nato soldiers' DUTY under 1244 to provide that protection.

Dear all. I'm happy that albanian and serbs are discussing more free and without backups, as their reprensative are doing it in Vienn. But, one think I can tell, in Kosova, Bosnia will not be allowed, that is shore. It's credibility of NATO in question. For albanian side that is very OK. For Serbs, probably, as we understand NO, but whatwe can do when serbs didn't know how to play from the beggining. Serbs can not blame EU or USA about all this. They should blame theirselfev particulary and Rusians in generaly. Russia protect Serbia for their interest, and when their acomplished their interest Serbia has been left alone. Serbian history is full of cases such this mentioned.

Good news! Finally all those people over there can feel safe and not fear from anyone, be that Albanian or Serbian. As more NATO soldiers as you send there, as safier those people will feel. It's time for those people to get back to their lives and stop being puppets of others.

Mike

calling someone uneducated without any grounds is uneducated. My posting has nothing do with education, don’t make me laugh, it only reflects my view of the Serbian diplomacy for the past 200 years of Kosovas occupation.
Mike, are you aware of that Serbia diplomats threaten with violence once a week. Don’t you read the press at all or maybe B92 articles?
K-Albanians are used to be called names by Serbs in order to use the violence, so you are no surprise to me.

Serbs are more confused then ever. First they tell NATO they don't need their protection, then they change their minds and say they need NATO protection, now they say why NATO wants to protect them. Guys, make up your minds! Those poor soldiers can't be magicians, so they can predict your judgemnt in advance.

"it´s just like the Tachi, who "studied" international law in switzerland ( allegedly )..."

Jovan learn some geography and history. Maybe then you'll learn about the languages needed to study in Switzerland.

Another thing. In life it is not good to be cocky. It doesn't bring you anything. Those people who you are trying to be ironic with, might speak more languages than you do and English might be the new language they're trying to learn.
Don't be the sterotype Serb, always thinking you are the smartest.

Olf,

You did not answer my question, and you clearly avoided the topic. You said, and again I repeat:

"No one believes Serbian diplomacy. Serb politicians have shown that the only tool that they use is violence towards civilians."

Me asking you to explain your comment and provide evidence that the "only tool" Serb politicians have ever used was "violence against civilians" was both straight forward and appropriate for your uneducated comment.

You are responsible for now showing, since you made this claim, that throughout all of Serbian history the only thing Serbs have ever done is use violence against civilians. That's exactly what you said. It's a pretty tall order to do, but this is a claim you made, and I'm simply challenging you on it. So Olf, I feel I have every right to call your statement uneducated since you have yet to provide empirical evidence.

If you can't back up your own statement (which you clearly avoided but still took the time to reply to me), you should retract it and refrain from making uneducated comments like that in the future.

"Jovan learn some geography and history. Maybe then you'll learn about the languages needed to study in Switzerland. "


how about you enlightening us here, about the languages being spoken in Switzerland?

:)

I´ll give you a hint:

tell me just one of those languages being spoken adequately by this criminal who called himself snake...

to study "international law"...you have to be firm in english...otherwise there won´t be much success visible.

but, I am not angry, you wanted to spread some anti-serbian propaganda, even if it is quite poor, but you´ve done it, and I was bored to death by it.

I don't think serbia has a clue what type of forces along with military hardware is being stationed in northern part of Kosova, specifically Northern Mitro and Leposavic. Raids are being conducted on daily bases and caches of weapons are being confiscated. About time UNMIK and KFOR collects the weapons up north.By the way this is being done so as to create safe and secure envornemant for all citizens alike.

Princip
I don’t think anyone need worry about Serbian actions just yet - diplomacy is working and international laws have not been and look even less likely to ever be broken for the sake of a few vocal ethnic-Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija

No one believes Serbian diplomacy. Serb politicians have shown that the only tool that they use is violence towards civilians.
Lets hope that KFOR will only be drinking hor tea and stay in their baracks.

oh dear, given some of the comments above one would have thought something new had happened! It is not as if there werent other trrops already in place. I for one am happy to see that NATO are taking the risk of violence seriously - something they clarly have learnt from events in 2004. Moreover, as we all know from last february they are not afraid of using force to quell any possibility of violence.

One need also realise that the German troops need to get on with tracking down the ANA who have alleged that they have some terrorists in the area - I think this is Germany's bigger concern!

I dont think anyone need worry about Serbian actions just yet - diplomacy is working and international laws have not been and look even less likely to ever be broken for the sake of a few vocal ethnic-Albanians in Serbia's province of Kosovo & Metohija. I guess come the 11th decemeber the reality will sink in that false promises can never be delieverd upon and you can ask uncle Sam why he misguided the few who believed him.

Can someone tell me what these german soldiers are doing in north KiM? Other than to maintain the occupation of the Serbian province.

"Can someone tell me what these german soldiers are doing in north KiM? "

They are there to secure that if Belgrade makes any attempt to partition Kosova it will be faced with a swift response from KFOR and NATO.

For once the KFOR troops in northern Kosova will be unbiased and maybe they will restore order and trust in both side of the river by eliminating the unlawful paramilitary “bridge guards” formations. No one wants bloodshed and whatever painful decision will be made after the talks between two sides the order and the rule of the law must be reestablished on the region. Apparently EU learned from Bosnia and will not let another mass grave to be excavated on the region. EU must not fail this time and reward Putin with the right to veto on European affairs.

KFOR needs to secure all Kosova.

KFOR has to neytarlize any threat from Serbs, or ANA

I think that NATO/KFOR is answering the calls of Princip, Jovan, Ron, Kate and is going to show that they are here to protect Serbs as well. They are going to protect Serbs form Serbs too, that’s why raids are conducted currently in north of Kosova
NO Violence=KFOR will intervene.
.... .....
.....

Dear B92

Why is this permitted to be posted? >> "No one believes Serbian diplomacy. Serb politicians have shown that the only tool that they use is violence towards civilians.

Dear all. I'm happy that albanian and serbs are discussing more free and without backups, as their reprensative are doing it in Vienn. But, one think I can tell, in Kosova, Bosnia will not be allowed, that is shore. It's credibility of NATO in question. For albanian side that is very OK. For Serbs, probably, as we understand NO, but whatwe can do when serbs didn't know how to play from the beggining. Serbs can not blame EU or USA about all this. They should blame theirselfev particulary and Rusians in generaly. Russia protect Serbia for their interest, and when their acomplished their interest Serbia has been left alone. Serbian history is full of cases such this mentioned.

Serbs are more confused then ever. First they tell NATO they don't need their protection, then they change their minds and say they need NATO protection, now they say why NATO wants to protect them. Guys, make up your minds! Those poor soldiers can't be magicians, so they can predict your judgemnt in advance.

Look at the timeline of the events in last two days. Use common sense and figure out what criminal factions is KFOR interested in destroying!!



19 November 2007
-“Report: NATO, UN plan to seize control of Kosovo's north”

-“Alexander Ivanko, spokesperson for the UN administration in Kosovo, UNMIK, said that his organization was “doing some planning for the repositioning of UNMIK in the north”.
“However, we cannot talk about our plans”, Ivanko said.”

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2007&mm=11&dd=19&nav_id=45537



20 November 2007
“German NATO battalion soon in northern Kosovo”

It does not really matter at all if Kosovo becomes its own state. It will always be Serbia, something no one will be able to change! The land is full of Serbian Blood.

"No one believes Serbian diplomacy. Serb politicians have shown that the only tool that they use is violence towards civilians."

That's a completely uneducated comment of your's Olf. Obviously you haven't been paying attention to what's on the ground since 2000. It's so typical of the collective stereotyping done by uninformed nationalists.

Show me since 2000 where "violence towards civilians" has been used by Serb politicians as the "only tool". Put your money where your mouth is.

Show me since 2000 where "violence towards civilians" has been used by Serb politicians as the "only tool". Put your money where your mouth is.
(Mike, 20 November 2007 20:34)

he can't put any money where his mouth is mike... there is not a cent to spare... since the serbian police/army/government left kosovo they've just been getting poorer and poorer...

Good news! Finally all those people over there can feel safe and not fear from anyone, be that Albanian or Serbian. As more NATO soldiers as you send there, as safier those people will feel. It's time for those people to get back to their lives and stop being puppets of others.

"it´s just like the Tachi, who "studied" international law in switzerland ( allegedly )..."

Jovan learn some geography and history. Maybe then you'll learn about the languages needed to study in Switzerland.

Another thing. In life it is not good to be cocky. It doesn't bring you anything. Those people who you are trying to be ironic with, might speak more languages than you do and English might be the new language they're trying to learn.
Don't be the sterotype Serb, always thinking you are the smartest.

Mike

calling someone uneducated without any grounds is uneducated. My posting has nothing do with education, don’t make me laugh, it only reflects my view of the Serbian diplomacy for the past 200 years of Kosovas occupation.
Mike, are you aware of that Serbia diplomats threaten with violence once a week. Don’t you read the press at all or maybe B92 articles?
K-Albanians are used to be called names by Serbs in order to use the violence, so you are no surprise to me.

There is absolutely no reason that the Germans (of all people) should be in the North of KosovO - unless of course, they are looking to keep the albanians out & then the term "peacekeepers" is completely valid!

"As more NATO soldiers as you send there, as safier those people will feel."

Not so as NATO stood by while Roma and Serb civilians were kidnapped and murdered throughout Kosovo so many of them fled to northern Kosovo where, by their numbers, they had some defense.

if my english-skills were so terribly lousy like some Albanians here are showing it...

I would simply stay quiet.

it´s just like the Tachi, who "studied" international law in switzerland ( allegedly )...

but I would love to know how he has managed it since his english is also more than poor.

guys, learn english!

let´s see what future brings.

so far, UNSC 1244 is still in effect - so what are you boasting around? you have achieved nothing at all.

sure, you will declare "independence"... and I will yawn to that.

"Can someone tell me what these german soldiers are doing in north KiM? "

They are there to secure that if Belgrade makes any attempt to partition Kosova it will be faced with a swift response from KFOR and NATO.
(miri, 20 November 2007 17:59) "

miri,

did it ever occur to you that they might really be there to help protect K-Serbs from possible Albanian violence after Dec 10 when there's no independence? Or to hunt down the ANA?

In any case, Nato is mandated by 1244 to look after Kosovo's security. This includes Kosovo north of the Ibar. So everyone should not read too much into this deployment. After all Nato is there under 1244 and they, including the Germans, know they have to follow the provisions of that UN resolution.

"Serbs are more confused then ever. First they tell NATO they don't need their protection, then they change their minds and say they need NATO protection, now they say why NATO wants to protect them. Guys, make up your minds! Those poor soldiers can't be magicians, so they can predict your judgemnt in advance.
(Clean Cut, 21 November 2007 10:38)"

Clean Cut,

I'm not a Serb but I think you are missing the point entirely. Nato is in Kosovo under 1244 to provide security ie. to protect the people there, including the K-Serbs.

K-Serbs therefore have the right to demand protection from Nato as and when they deem necessary. And it is those Nato soldiers' DUTY under 1244 to provide that protection.

Olf,

You did not answer my question, and you clearly avoided the topic. You said, and again I repeat:

"No one believes Serbian diplomacy. Serb politicians have shown that the only tool that they use is violence towards civilians."

Me asking you to explain your comment and provide evidence that the "only tool" Serb politicians have ever used was "violence against civilians" was both straight forward and appropriate for your uneducated comment.

You are responsible for now showing, since you made this claim, that throughout all of Serbian history the only thing Serbs have ever done is use violence against civilians. That's exactly what you said. It's a pretty tall order to do, but this is a claim you made, and I'm simply challenging you on it. So Olf, I feel I have every right to call your statement uneducated since you have yet to provide empirical evidence.

If you can't back up your own statement (which you clearly avoided but still took the time to reply to me), you should retract it and refrain from making uneducated comments like that in the future.

"Jovan learn some geography and history. Maybe then you'll learn about the languages needed to study in Switzerland. "


how about you enlightening us here, about the languages being spoken in Switzerland?

:)

I´ll give you a hint:

tell me just one of those languages being spoken adequately by this criminal who called himself snake...

to study "international law"...you have to be firm in english...otherwise there won´t be much success visible.

but, I am not angry, you wanted to spread some anti-serbian propaganda, even if it is quite poor, but you´ve done it, and I was bored to death by it.